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Same same same. Weirdly annoying for me

I wish red and white were just the treasure color makers and maybe secondary of blue and black but yes definitely not green. If anything green should be the anti treasure color destroying and gobbling up treasures.

meh, it makes sence from the dnd set becuse the green dragon in that took over an Elf kingdom with a big seeming limitless hoard of treasure but for the most part the rest yeah

green is the big mana color and the least likely to abuse the artifacts

@@joefuller3886 still doesn't justify the outragous card that it is

but they do grow in the ground. Just need to do some digging.

Also wotc: bootlegger’s stash at mythic 😎😎😎

Same, I do hope that this is the last we'll see of treasures for a while at least.

Agreed, but it seems they wanted to make a set based primarily around the swinging 20's rather than focusing on noir themes.

Yes, clues would have been so much better!

Jonnytailo No

Johnnytailor Ok ovwhorth

That whole flavor and card design idea makes complete sense to me and sounds great, but I will say I think they've liked the idea of giving white land ramp and probably don't need much more ramp in general unless all the other colors start getting more ramp that would outclass whites currently existing land ramp

@@captaindaddd6055 i just always pictured/would of preferred the idea of treasures in white instead of land ramp cause of cards like Smothering Tithe, it’s a good way for white to “ramp” in the form of treasures/ a taxing effect to keep up with the green decks of the world that now have that artifact that makes lands tap to make treasure, I don’t think that card needed to exist at all in any color.

@@gaymer4rmmeletis I totally agree. I thought old gnawbone was a wild one and I'm surprised they released that. Putting treasures in green just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

I like the idea for white :) But for green.. lets give it food.

@@okgut2033like the idea of Food for green. More effects like Gilded goose, where you can eat the food to produce more Mana

Or black even

Makes sense cause brass bounty was like the dad of the card

Or Black… or both?

needs to be on activation or ETB otherwise you just go off the same turn and it does nothing

Gorilla shaman, stony silence, energy Flux, blind obedience, etc

$20 treasures, nice flex.

Less of a runaway storm turn for sure. I like we've seen that for a few cards this set: "tapped Treasure tokens". And that still fits flavor perfectly in my opinion! You gotta hoard your treasure at least one turn before you spend it. Also not sure why green has treasures, considering of anyone they'd think useless shineys are stupid.

It doesn't really play like Brass's Bounty at all, Bounty gets you ahead on mana while Stash is mana banking like Omnath or Kruphix. Green is the appropriate color for the card.

@@Yesnomu It is linked to lands under your control like Brass's Bounty that is why I am comparing the two and saying the card should be a red card I don't understand why it needs to be green

@@atlaswar2425 Green is the only single color it could be. The similarity to Bounty is only superficial, Bounty is a one-shot mana ritual that is expressed through treasure while Stash is a long-term mana bank. Let's say you play both with seven lands: Bounty gives you seven treasure, so you have fourteen mana next turn--you could potentially win the game with that much. With Stash, you have eight mana next turn, so very different outcomes. This fits the playstyle of red vs green: a big burst of power once, as opposed to slowly saving and accumulating power.

@@Yesnomu Bwahahaha hahahahahaha AHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA

while removing from white which has a ton of justification

@@KBergs idk about that. White has catch up ramp. But definitely more artifact synergies than green.

...but it is still much better than several other cards banned for power reasons

I'm on my phone atm, what's the gist of this issue?

@@leviangel97 "If the second ability of Revel in Riches causes you to win the game, please refrain from throwing your Treasure tokens into the air as this may distract or injure other players."

@@travislannoye8244 well spotted mate 👍 If you want another laugh, look up Aura Thief's ruling, it's from 2004, back when stealing a bunch of global enchantments was nowhere near as powerful as it is today! First sentence is pretty funny

They should low key be sorcery speed

This

I agree. Treasures fits with red's temporary theme (impulse draws, creating tokens that are destroyed at end of turn, single turn theft) and would give white a method of ramp that could be tied to fairness (create a treasure for the difference in land count) or as a reward for it's rule setting (like Smothering Tithe or Monologue Tax). Give black and blue interesting interactions with treasures, and give green ways to punish or destroy treasure.

B and U feel treasure-y too imo, but as a less prioritized mechanic in comparison to W/R

and make it a plains

Sadly they have a few cards for both of those already

WotC: "nature!"

Same, I actively avoid commanders with green and will actively try killing a green player first honestly.

But Korvold is green and is particularly fond of treasures. And i say that being a korvold treasures player.

Treasure Magnet : if a player would create a treasure, you create a treasure instead.

Counterfeiter : artifact tokens lose all abilities

Rust Demon: All artifact tokens gain Fade 1

@@Hexatomb I'd buy tf outta the lose abilities one.

Because Wotc has a horrible balance track record when it comes to blue and green, which happen to be Maro's favorite colors.

I dont think green is problematic atm. The "uniceness" of green seems to be: steal the things others doing but better cause "nature" and having more mana. Its just lazzy design, boring and uninspired. On blue side we have something that is more troublesome since beginning: extraturns, counterspells and being the carddraw color. So to break it down: you get an hole new turn that has no counterplay whatsoever in other colours. You can answer everything and you allways have something in hand to do stuff. Ofc there are more unice designs but those are more "balanced". White had a longtime ago the balance factor. But that design isnt supported anymore and they are somehow in an crysis to find "fun" ways for that. Gues if you boom everything or block some minor things you cant progress yourself, so you loose the game. Oh and if you go lifegain, thanks for waisting our all time. Red wants to go fast, but then you see blue having allways something and you run out of options cause your more "impulsive". Means you get most times slightely more for huge downsides. Like extra turn for loose the game or draw cards but you loose the game (cause they have to be played know) or fast creatures but you loose the game (cause you dont do enough esp if just one thing gets removed your out). So the only other thing you can do is damage but in commander your mostly too slow and loose the game. Black is imo the 2nd placed color. You can cheat close as good as blue and the price is fair. So its red but better. Oh yeah you also have other mechanics but in short: its all cheat. Cheat creatures in hand/grave/play. Cheat life. Cheat damage. Cheat draw. Do Something something to cheat something. And that is imo it. Nothing special about the other colors that are close to "you cant interact with anything i do, but if you someday get something i still can protect myself from that useless things and probably get payed for doing that 🤡"

I agree that the treasures going to green instead of white is a boggling decision. But if it means that white gets some more legit card draw and some legit ramp, I'm here for it.

Lotus Petal is recurable, Treasure Tokens aren't.

Black lotus is just three treasures in a trench coat.

Lotus petal is a card

Listening to Dana talk about Goad makes me realize that anything new will be complained about regardless of if it is good or bad. If the trample or haste was new, I could absolutely see you all complaining about it. "If they keep printing Trample cards why even have chump blockers!?!?" "If they keep printing Haste card why try to play around it?" (Like with your treasure/counterspell complaint) Admittedly anything related to mana is a bigger issue.

I miss those, and they only produced Colorless and most of them required you to wait to even get them.

If u think about it all the other colors are nature too so the sky is the limit with green and wotc

cool then it could've been a black card and been just fine

@@KBergs yea, I think all of the colors should have gotten a dragon that somehow created treasures based upon a color theme, whether it was an attack trigger, blocking trigger, etb trigger or ltb trigger or damage trigger. I am just saying that treasure and dragons is a reasonable fit.