Trek Top Fuel 9 8 Tech Talk Round

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Is Trek's Top Fuel an XC bike or a hardcore trail bike? Find out as I check through the tech details in the workshop in a deep dive to back up the non stop Live Ride Review of this outstanding - but also potentially confusing - speed machine.
Thanks to Trek UK for the long loan of the bike and supporting the video, Giro Cycling UK, Peaty’s Products, Enduro Bearings, Crud XL Fenders, Torq Nutrition and Hebtroco for supporting the channel, and to my Patreon supporters for their monthly pledges.
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@mdoneg 8 дней назад

I picked one of these up a few weeks ago from Trek. It was spec’d with the scram eagle for $3499 USD new! What a deal!!

@GuyKesTV 8 дней назад

@@mdoneg that is a Top Fuel top deal for sure!

@MrFrescocotone Год назад

Fantastic bike

@andersnymannlund3888 Год назад

Great review and walk through 👍 did you test the high setting and how did it feel compared to the low setting?

@usamade5943 9 месяцев назад

The geometry is very similar to the 20-22 Gen 5 Fuel Ex.

@scottflowers8601 Год назад

Built the carbon frame top fuel up earlier this year. Xtr drivetrain Xt brakes 130 pike ultimate and 120 cane creek coil in back. The suspension change makes this a whole new bike. Drops and jumps are smooth and climbs are like cheating. Definitely recommend. Great video

@GuyKesTV Год назад

That sounds so sick! I was going to throw a Fox coil into this one but they needed it back in a hurry

@scottflowers8601 Год назад

@@GuyKesTV the dps shock that came with the frame just held this bike back so much. I’d love to compare my bike to the SB120 or T. Spur

@BlackMan614 6 месяцев назад

dps shock? Their website shows Rockshox Deluxe Ultimate.

@scottflowers8601 6 месяцев назад

Surprised me too

@mseekles1972 Год назад

Great review. And really nice bike. Been riding the 9.8 XT for about a year now. Mino link is on the bottom of the shock by the way.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

Well that makes me look stupid doesn't it 🤣Yep, you're dead right, they have switched it down there now. Stoked you're enjoying your bike anyway

@mseekles1972 Год назад

@@GuyKesTV no way 😅👍had to look twice myself at my own bike because at any other Trek fs the mino link is exactly at where you were indicating. And again, also enjoying your reviews.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

@@mseekles1972 Im kind of laughing because I've obviously just got so used to it being there since like 2000 or something 🤣

@mseekles1972 Год назад

@@GuyKesTV 😂 I am relatively new to mtb … I am no youngster but really got into the hobby/sport about three years ago. I am lucky to also be able to ride a Slash. Only just last week I found out that my bike has got the minolink “high-low” indication misprinted on the frame … so I have been doing some bikeparks in the high setting while being convinced I had the bike in the low setting 😆 it made me double check it on my top fuel

@Doc_Raphy 9 месяцев назад

I wish the next refresh of this frame can fit a 38t chainring. It fits almost all of the things I'm looking for in a fullsus frame except the weight of the aluminium variant and the fact that it can only fit a 36t chainring max

@GHinWI Год назад

knock block is great because you can trim the cables/hoses to a minimum

@GuyKesTV Год назад

That’s a really good point I hadn’t thought of before

@kennethwang1666 Год назад

How does this compare to something like blur TR

@MikP86 7 месяцев назад

Does the composite scare anyone? I want a Top Fuel but afraid of the composite version. Are they strong?

@robbdog 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great review. I have this bike and I like it, but the wheelset is much too heavy. What would you recommend for a lighter wheel set available here in the United States?

@GuyKesTV 5 месяцев назад

Sorry Rob, only just seen this. I'd look at the Roval Control wheels from Specialized (don't worry it doesn't say Specialized on them so it won't look weird on your Trek) or the Reserve XC28 from Santa Cruz. Both are light but tough and with a great warranty. Trek do their own Bontrager brand but the rims aren't as strong as those two.

@___RC___ 2 месяца назад

Do you think remote lockout (cabled) is a waste on XC or Downcountry (to also race with) bike? Perhaps also adds weight? Im debating on some bikes i love but dont offer it or would require suspension swap outs just to allow lockout cabeling.

@GuyKesTV 2 месяца назад

Hey Ryan, I think it’s entirely a personal thing. In reality most short suspension bikes pedal well enough not to need lockout off road. If you ride road a lot or just like the feel of rigid suspension when you’re racing then it’s worth the extra weight and complexity. Get a bike fitted with it to start though as retrofitting is nearly always a fight

@moitynz Год назад

Great review, and enjoyed the ride along too. I have this exact bike (for a bit over a year), having had enduro bikes for a long time, I'm amazed at how fun and capable it is. I like the SID but feel like it's a little undergunned compared to the rest of the bike, seriously considering a 2023 Pike at 130mm. I know when you reviewed the Pike you weren't all that impressed, claiming the SID feels better, have you had some more time on the Pike, do you still feel the same? Otherwise, wheels would be the most obvious upgrade, but the current ones are solid and the quick engagement is fantastic so I've held off that upgrade so far.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

I've ridden a couple more Pikes since that review and they've all had the same spiking issue to a lesser or greater extent so I'd currently recommend the previous generation Pike. Fantastic forks and they're going really cheap now too.

@cyklomaniak Год назад

@@GuyKesTV The spiking feeling may be due to the new-school over-engineered air spring… ;) Is there a difference in sensitivity/harshness between SIDs with charger 2.0 and charger race day? Could it be worth to update the select+ SID?

@GuyKesTV Год назад

@@cyklomaniak there’s no massive difference in feel or control between the Charger 2 and Race Day. Race Day is just lighter. With new Pike I think it’s more a combination of new bushings and new compression

@user-gg7og8iy1h Год назад

Great review and content on the bike! Do you think the weight is justified when comparing the ride/capability to that of the Scott Spark RC? Cant seem to decide which one to get and can’t imagen a better person to ask.

@GuyKesTV 8 месяцев назад

So sorry mate, only just seen this. Still want an answer?

@user-gg7og8iy1h 8 месяцев назад

@@GuyKesTV No worries, still curious about your thoughts 👍🏻

@GuyKesTV 8 месяцев назад

@@user-gg7og8iy1h have you already got a bike?

@tinshield Год назад

Guy, how did you like the XR4’s? One of my favorite tires overall when considering weight, rolling resistance and traction.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

I’m a big fan of the XR4, a really good all rounder for a lot of conditions.

@skinny8019 Год назад

Just went through a set of maxxis rekons front and back. Replaced them with the XR4s. The XR4 is lighter and more supple and better traction then the rekons. Roll arguably the same quick speed. I loved the XR4 so much I put them on my bigger bike also.

@tinshield Год назад

@@skinny8019 if you find you need more sidewall on your bigger bike the SE4 is the same tread just a heavier casing

@skinny8019 Год назад

@@tinshield thx bro!

@tinshield Год назад

Trek is not even trying to keep weight down anymore. My Stumpjumper with more travel and XT group is significantly lighter? I run the same tires as well. You’d think the SID suspension and short travel frame would help? 😮 I think all this bike really needs is a 1650 gram wheelset.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

I put the HUNT Proven XC wheels in with Maxxis Severe and Rekon Race in for a few rides and it flew

@tinshield Год назад

@@GuyKesTV bet it made a huge difference 👍

@TheBIKEDEALZ Год назад

How would you rate the alloy model? I don’t like carbon :)

@GuyKesTV Год назад

It’s a chunk heavier but rides great. I did a review on the TF8 on the channel about a year ago so look for that

@TheBIKEDEALZ Год назад

I wonder if there are any alloy worth bikes to replace my Banshee Phantom V3. This is good options any others?

@phenofinder9145 Год назад

The fuel is so legendary. Travis Brown calls it the "every mans bike". The fuel was born under him

@GuyKesTV Год назад

And Travis is definitely a legend

@user-yb6sz1nd9z 17 дней назад

What about sizing? I' 176 cm tall and doubt about size m or m/l. Thxs!

@GuyKesTV 17 дней назад

I'm 180cm and M/L fits me really well. If you're not getting a good deal on a current bike I'd wait a week though 🤫

@user-yb6sz1nd9z 17 дней назад

@@GuyKesTV THXS for your answer! trek's web site says that im in M as per 176cm but in ml as per legs lenght , so this is why doubt. i will have a bit of pacience then ;)

@roilev Год назад

Blast from the past - the single pivot rear suspension, the huge cable loop sticking from the derailleur, the high seat tube. I hope the brakes don't rattle and don't change the bite point randomly

@GuyKesTV Год назад

No the XT brakes actually behaved really well this time! And there is a rear pivot but it’s in the same place as the rear axle

@marksandoval5361 Год назад

Here's where I think the Top Fuel missed the mark. -Needs frame clearance for 2.6 tires. -Should come with a 140mm fork like the Fox 34. -Geo should be 76* STA and 65* HTA with that 140mm fork. -Overall, the bike should be lighter. -Needs faster-rolling Downcountry tires.

@GuyKesTV Год назад

That would be a sick bike for sure and you’re totally right about the tyres and wheels. I’m a big SID fan tho so that fork and current geom work for me.