Trial Of The G.O.A.T. LeBron James vs Michael Jordan PT 2 | Cancel Court | Season 3 Episode 4 

@DEFIANTDIGITAL Let me have this case , I love Tony Baker but this ain't the argument or the trial for him

😂y’all let Ryan literally lie again saying mj only lead in points saying he was never the best defender even though he was dpoy when Scottie was coming off the bench

@@Jc-ly6pe acting like the 91 finals didn't happen when Jordan Led in Points Assists Steals on the way to a Finals MVP

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I promise you I can destroy. Ryan in this debate

You just want blaq to act a fool 😂😂😂😂, this would be fire tho

Swear

sheeeeesh that’s easily a 2m view video

Don’t make him get the belt lmao

Trail?

He is but he is no Blaq Ron

He really does offer a strong persuasive argument everytime

CP too

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It only sounds good. That take was hot trash. People want Bron to be better than MJ. Mj average 30ppg for his career. And yes, he's a system player. When they put him at PG for a few weeks, he averaged a triple double. To talk about Pippin, grant, Rodman, kukoc, Steve Kerr, and not mention, Kyrie, Wade, Ray Allen, Bosh, Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson, Anthony Davis, JR Smith, etc, is just siding with what you want. How you the goat and played with way better talent and yet won 4 rings only. He act like the pistons playing as a team is the worst thing ever. If stars are all that matter, team USA should never lose a basketball game. Lebron will never be jordan. No matter how hard yall try. Lebron will never be jordan

@@user-wx1br9jp6uLebron individually is a better all around player. He can do everything, he can play any position on the court, MJ could never be a PF or Center. Jordan fans get hung up on the Bull team success and attribute it all completely to Jordan like Jordan didn’t have the most perfect balanced system that he could’ve ever dreamed of. The closest Lebron ever came to having that same support was when he played in the Heat and even then he stepped up big time in those playoff runs. With that being said, Lebron’s performance in the 2016 finals alone washes MJ entire playoffs performances. Bron beat a 73-9 stacked Warriors squad and statistically outperformed every single player (from both teams) on the court while doing so.

@dopeminguez24 so does that make TMac better than Jordan? He could play more positions? I've seen westbrook play 3 positions. He on the same level as jordan? Jordan was 1000× better at his position than lebron was. On both sides of the ball. Not just offense. Lebron has had better scorers on his teams than Jordan. Lebron wanted those people he played with. Lebron got the team's he wanted. And he spent 4 years with the heat to only win 2 rings. And don't act like lebron didn't have help in Cleveland, Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love we're all stars, Kyrie, jr Smith was multiple time 6th man of the year. See yall want to forget that he had years of help with nothing to show for it. How long he nd AD played together now? 1 ring? I don't look at shaq and be like, well Kevin garnett was better because he played more positions. Shaq dominated in his position. Just like jordan dominated in his position. Stop the madness. Lebron will never be jordan. But if we basing goat status off lack of help, kobe was the only player to win back to back championships without a top 75 teammate. And a guy who played far less games than Kareem and Malone. That's a better argument for goat status that that bs Lebron argument yall keep trying to pull

​@@dopeminguez24Yeah it's really annoying as if he could do it without Scottie Pippen's Defense or Rodman's rebound. Actually LeBron did it with less talent. That Bulls team was one of the best teams in history. Teams don't just get 3-peats because of one individual player.

This moron just mentioned Tristan Thompson lmao

That had me rolling, it was perfect timing.

Not funny at all

​@@OfficialBigDawgKel that shit was hilarious 😂😂....don't be so sensitive on a comedy channel

@@OfficialBigDawgKelthat shit hit home didn’t it pull You skirt down 😂

​@OfficialBigDawgKel as a person who lost their dad, found him, and he died.....I still laughed. Lighten up a little.

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@@blewblisto3367 you know damn well more people own Jordans than LeBrons, I know of even non-basketball fans who own Jordans so staph it

Science

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He worships failure and excuses like he worships chicken and waffles ! A Topflight Bronsexual.

BOY, Might be the best anyone has ever argued Lebron over Jordan.

I've been posting it everywhere. He killed it

He got cheated out of his victory

@@nedudee7861 come up for air.

​@@SIRDIXON-SD9223how he got cheated out of his victory your point is invalid like his point is these lebron fans are more delusional than Pat mahommes fans

You know why? Because while 1s talking, the other gotta be quiet. I've NEVER seen a convo where 1 let's the other talk.

Dumbest debate in all of sports. LeBron against 50 win teams is 20-14- MJ is 20-7 -LeBron against 60 win teams is 3-4 MJ is 7-2 -LeBron played with players who had a combined 100 all star appearances -MJ had 10 combined allstars -Nearly 200 players will be involved in trades on Lebrons teams -LeBron is 4-6 in the finals including getting swept 2x and gentleman sweep 2x -MJ is 6-0 -Lebron is the only playert in the top 10 with a losing record in the finals -LeBron has 1 scoring title MJ had 10 -LeBron has 5 1st team defense and hasn’t won any in 10 YEARS MJ has 9 -LeBron has 0 DPOY MJ has 1 -LeBron has 0 3 peats MJ has 2 -LeBron has 0 steals titles MJ has 3 -LeBron has 4 MVP's and hasn’t won any in 11 Years MJ has 5 -LeBron has 4 finals MVP's MJ has 6 -Lebron missed the playoffs 4x MJ 2x -LeBron streak of not losing 3 in a row-128 MJ-626 -LeBron plays in the weakest defensive era in NBA history -MJ played in the toughest (hand checking, much more physical and greatest big men era in history) -LeBron is 11-31 in game tying or winning shots in the playoffs MJ is 9-18 -LeBron is 21-118 on GW shots total MJ is 28-54 -Lebron all time leader in turnovers and soon to be missed shots -LeBron shoots 38% for his CAREER beyond 3 feet from the basket, 72% from the FT line -MJ is the all time leader in ppg in both regular season and post season at 30.1 and 33.5 and considered to be one of the greatest jump shooters in history -% of 1st place votes for MVP in career Lebrob-26% MJ-36% -Seasons with scoring title and 1st team def LeBron-0 MJ-9 -Seasons with top 5 MVP Lebron-5 MJ-9, 5 wins and 4 2nd place -MJ never lost a championship game on any level -Reg season in top 10 in def win shares, plus/minus and def rating Lebron-WS-7 Plus/minus-7 Def rating-3 MJ- WS-8 Plus/minus-8 Def rating-4 -Seasons winning chip, FMVP, MVP, scoring title and 1st team defense Lebron-0 MJ-4 -Championships without multiple AS Lebron-1 MJ-6 -MJ has more 30ppg and 50% shooting seasons than Steph Curry, KD, LeBron, James Harden and Kobe combined -Lebron has cheated game by flopping and teaming up with 2 other top 10 players in their prime. -MJ made players better by his intensity in practice and demanding excellence from them and himself -Teams with 20 or less wins -Lebron 18 from 2010-2019 East-12 West-6. 14 of 18 were in Lebrons conference -MJ-19 in the 90’s East-5. 2 in 94 West-14 -5 out of 19 were in MJ’s and 2 were years he didn’t play

Low key the funniest line in the entire thing lmao just when I thought I was done laughing my ass off he says that lol

IMO, Ja Morant vs NBA is the best because it's a conversation that needed to be held and when there were jokes you hollered. Anything with Ryan Davis, CP, Tony Baker and/or Blaq Ron will always be solid!

lol yea the first one was kinda kinda mid

He won the first round

Tony is hilarious but he doesn't exactly have the best arguments. On a purely basketball level you can very convincingly argue that Jordan is better. For example he just accepted the notion that Jordan only scored like Jordan wasn't an elite defender himself.

@@Corey1873compared to REAL elite defenders he wasn’t, you couldn’t play both parts in his era.

Yep like dragon Ball is the best anime ever

@@jasondaniels2970 yeah i was saying i think he had a better argument from this one then when he won

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Tony made good points though. Stat-wise LeBron takes kobe. But tenacity, drive, intimidation.. lebron doesnt have it. Game winning high pressure shots. But goat status for whos playing today. Yea

4-6 vs 6-0. What are we discussing

That closing statement was retarded to any real basketball fan. Hakeem won 2 rings cuz jirdan retired. And sure mj had rodman and horace grant but that is NO where vlose to the amount of HELP lebron got in his champsionship runs ..smh gtfo

​@@engineeringdesigns4056 look at the video. Ryan Davis dismantled that argument. Yes he won 6. Over 15 years of career. So he's not undefeated. He lost 9 times. Jordan only won chips when Phil Jackson and his triangle offense take over. He won when he was playing with Pippen who was doing a lot of dirty work. He won when he had rebounder and defensive presence like Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman. Same formula or structure that Jordan lucky to be part of. LeBron didn't have that formula or luxury.

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I must agree. This was outstanding

Bro im about 10 minutes away and I have had to pause the video and say damn he killing him AND this is the best argument I’ve heard for either side of who is the real GOAT is💯 that closing argument from Ryan made this the greatest episode ever because the amount of funny annnnnd factual evidence he presented was a movie 😂

@@joey_strong yeah, Ryan unlocked a new level of talent

@@tkthakid he lowkey set a standard How prepared you might have to be going forward 🤔shit we might end up seeing these episodes as the beginning of a fire series

Both of them are hellabad

Bless her heart

she's the reason i clicked on the video

man ill forever come back to the channel cause of her

Look at GOD.....😂

No it itsnt. Mj won in college, Phil was a new coach, the 2 bulls teams were 2 totally different teams. Rodman was at the end of the line. Pippen and no one else on the bulls average more than 15 points in the playoffs. That’s the whole argument of the “you had to be there” a lot of these facts get lost to history

Oh yea Jordan won 2 Olympics Championships 1 of Lebron Olympics teams lost

@@djnes2k7Yes, Jordan won in college having the one the greatest coach ever and James Worthy. MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE GREATEST SYSTEM GUY OF ALL TIME. Second to him would be Tom Brady.

This whole Jordan had Rodman, Pippen, and Grant's argument, lost all steam when Bron got to play with Wade, Bosh, Jesus Shuttleworth, Love, Kyrie, and AD. Bron never won a title without another top 75 player of all time. And MJ can't play with Rodman and Grant 😂. Makes 0 sense.

Ryan would have u in prison over a parking ticket

Facts

It's easy to have facts that Nick Wright been saying.

All of his points were trash.

That’s because there is no argument that makes sense.

@@jrsmith1998 Nah, Ryan just better but Bron not better than MJ

I think Tony won

@@jrsmith1998like Ryan said….ppl will say Tony loss but will still say MJ the goat. Don’t argue with these niggaz

​@@clocked24 Ryan is better and lebron is better

After this season I'm convinced anyone who tries to put LeBron on Jordan's level, is just plain on drugs or half tard.

Bron not even better than Steph

@@engineeringdesigns4056found the 12 yr old

​@@engineeringdesigns4056stop smokin that 💩

@@engineeringdesigns4056a guy with One FMVP, only two MVP’s, only two scoring titles (despite being a offensive player), hasn’t won a single playoff game without a HoF, wasn’t the best player on the team for two of his rings, only beat Lebron due to him having one of the worst supporting casts in Playoffs history twice while having the most OP roster of all time, blew a 3-1 lead to him in his absolute prime etc. Ask any GM who would they rather take, a 36 year old Lebron or Curry right now.

@@engineeringdesigns4056Steph my favorite player of all time and even I wouldn’t say no bs like dis lol

How he getting off and he was a baby when Jordan was playing gtfoh

@@OfficialBigDawgKel I was talking about towards the end. I know he was Baby when JORDAN came into the game.

Not really

Jordan fans big mad in these comments

@@OfficialBigDawgKelJordan groupies crying lmao get off your knees 😂

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U need to be on the network with that joke unless they said it either way hilarious

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Need part 3

Ryan went in and made a great case. Ain't no way he should've lost that.

Spaghetti baby

It’s crazy because Tony said it himself …Jordan had THE BEST OR GREATEST TEAM ASSEMBLED….then said Golden state had a better team or record and then couldn’t finish because they lost to Lebron …come on bruh…jury was trippen…couldn’t have came to that verdict based on the info

@@angeloam83that’s the main reason why GS was not the greatest team assembled because they got the record but didn’t get the job done in the end. Also the fact that they lost just as many playoff games as regular season games.

@@zacheryseymour7297 even if Golden State was not the greatest team assembled…it still stands that the Bulls were and even without Jordan, them falling shy of the Championship and still practically having the same record with or without Jordan the year after him leaving says more about the team then Jordan. Lebron took a bunch of nobodies to a Championship with the Cavs and after he won a chip with Kyrie, he still took the Cavs to the Championship when they weren’t even considered to make the Playoffs. They removed a bunch of has beens from the regular season and added even more bums in the post season and they still made it to the Championship after being counted out in every series. Even I was like, this is going to be impossible to make it back but Ol boy did it again. Rings are won by teams. Even making to the Championship is a battle and race between the best 2 teams. Jordan has made 6 and won 6 as well as Pippen and Phil Jackson even more rings. Robert Horry got rings being on the best teams. Rings can’t be the argument because that is a team achievement. Otherwise Bill Russell got it. But Lebron also took 2 bum teams to the Championship. Went there 9/10 times in a row on 3 different teams and coaches and is the common denominator but as far as accolades and better player altogether-James beats Jordan hands down in practically every category-this was also accomplished years ago

Ryan missed the chance to cut that up with mjs losing record while making the playoffs

​@@MikeStew07I think that was a trap and Ryan was smart not to touch it. Ryan was arguing in the first case that Jordan didn't make the finals a bunch of times. Tony used that same argument here to say James didn't make the playoffs at all four times. If Ryan said Jordan lost in the playoffs then he can hit Ryan with him losing all the time in the finals.

The thing is LeBron missed it his first two seasons and the last 2. MJ doesn't have the first 2, but has the last 2 with the wizards like LeBron in LA. Plus you have the play in now so you don't even need to be top 8, but in the top 10...

@@DemonKing-oi4jdbringing up the play in is irrelevant the play in worked against Bron lakers were 7th 7th & now the 8th seed

@@RackedUpShawty Yeah you are right. I think this year isn't set yet though, so we'll find out Sunday.

Facts!!! It wasn't even close!!! Tony didn't deliver any new facts. He's basing his opinion solely on personal feelings. Ryan should've won!!!!

Facts

BIG FACTS!!!!

You Lebronians won’t let it go. He’s not the one or the two, he’s the three, maybe even 4th. That’s okay

​@@Demsky83Look if he ain't 3 or 4, that's absolutely FINE, MJ ain't 5 or 6 then

Yeah, Ryan was killing it. Jury went in there with their decision already made

Facts!!!

It’s over. Bron wins. It’s over.

Exactly, i don't care too much about sports but this is still one of the best episodes

@@jrsmith1998Delusional is that you? 😂😂

Kkkk very very diabolical 😂😂

Fr tho

😂he don’t

He needs to sit down with Skip bayless😂

That boy can lie too!!!😂😂

He was good but he lost all credibility when he said Hakeem .

IDK about that. He lose weight now he losing cases

@@Kaqqiethat was a biased jury. He should’ve won

@@AGreatBreakfastno he’s definitely been better in the past. Tony was cooking this round.

​@@Demsky83Tony lost u just a jordan fan that would change and probably old and don't like the new generation basketball

Tony baker *

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@@tylanmills192 all you LeBron fans want him to be better than Jordan Soo bad 6-0 beats 4-6 no matter what you say how you say it I'll never crown a guy who lost more than he won but supposed to be the so called goat is pure delusional childish Bullshit

On life

LeBron would win easier if that was the case

​@RJ-ph5zg As long as they still using facts and not some made-up narrative MJ wins easily every time.

​@@strmshadow8411it wouldn't be "easy" since Jordan couldn't even get out of the first round without Pip.... he's still the greatest imo but people really need to stop acting like Jordan was untouchable

@@TheForbiddenOne55 You say that like you proved something? What was Pippen doing off the bench that first year? Didn't he avg like 8 pts or something with low minutes? But yeah, it was Pippen that got him there. Also, I don't what it is with you guys trying to flex on how far a lottery team made it before they had a decent team, yet none of you like to mention that Lebron didn't even make the playoffs his first 2 years. And to add on to that he didn't make the Finals with 2 60+ win teams... But you right it would be so easy for Lebron to win that argument 🙄.

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How come he lost?

@frankyg1334 so they could make a part 3 duh 😂 people agree with me in the comments too 🤷🏿‍♂️ we all knew the fix was in. Still was entertaining tho

@@kidcutty88 Oh cute. If MJ won, it’s scripted and just looking for a sequel. Got it!

@frankyg1334 I mean...feel free to look at the comments if u want. U act like I'm the only one saying it 😒😂

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BIG FACTS!!!!

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What facts lol?

Ryan was straight up lying lol

​@@Jc-ly6peyou also gonna tell us the lies here as well?

@@talemwakaheru5831probably not lies but definitely misinformed. For one, MJ was the best defender on his team when he won DPOY. By far. Pippen would grow into a better defender later in his career but he wasn’t close to that in 88. He was also wrong about Bron not having a top offensive rebounder and defensive player. Anthony Davis is both, and he’s been runner up DPOY a bunch of times in his career as recently as last year. The point about LeBron being hated ks why he didn’t win DPOY was wrong too. Media voted for DPOY and coaches voted for all defensive teams. So they didn’t vote for him for one thing then suddenly decide they didn’t want to for the other, it was two completely different groups. The same thing happened the year before with other players. LeBron didn’t have the most 1st place votes for DPOY that year. Gasol had WAY more. The part about MJ being a system player when MJs best years came without a system, and he reached the eastern conference finals before Phil got there. Speaking of Phil, he was a rookie coach when Chicago hired him just like Ham. LeBron teams also have a formula - Too 3-5 big man who can stretch the floor and multiple shooters. Bosh, Love and AD we’re all top players when they joined Bron, and all can shoot all over the court. It’s weird to say MJs formula required a shooter when Brons teams do too lol (Ray Allen, Kyle Korver are two of the greatest shooters of all time ñ. Other guys like Mike Miller, Austin Reaves, Caldwell Pope are excellent shooters too. Not to mention Kyrie Most of it seems like misinformation but I can see how a few of them xñcould be intentionally lying, like the AD part and the MJ DPOY one

@@jackierichardson8040 but MJ didn't win a championship in 88. Only in 91 when Pippen improved. And yes he outdid pippen in 91 but from 92 pippen took over and established himself in his position. It's called growth. You can't keep using 88 pippen as the reason why 91 pippen was useless and then automatically say that's why MJ won 6 championships. Google is your friend, you can look up the year by year stats. MJ had 2 insanely good years that skewed the data in his favour. Pippen is consistent like you wouldn't believe

It just proved what he said. It don’t matter what you do say or show they’ll never think anything else. They’re incapable of even thinking someone can be better than Mike

What did Ryan say that proved to you Bron is better?

To me the best argument for Jordan being the goat is his 9x time 1st team All Defense it’s 2 sides of the court that’s why I judge players of todays era a lil different

​@@shaquilhoskins3078he should only have 6 lol, he was the 4th best defender on his team during the 2nd 3peat. Ryan literally stated that already and how it was a popularity contest lol. Y'all not listening, even Phil Jackson said that lol

@@24uberRyan tricked y’all wit his words and he know it 🤣🤣 fans , coaches, players, media get to vote on the award when Lebron won 27 to 7 votes over Gasol that was the media vote he didn’t tell y’all bout the other votes he lost that’s wat we call partial information 😭 and when did Phil say he was the 4th best defender you gotta pull that quote bcuz in Phil’s book he said he’s the best defender he’s ever coached nobody ever had intensity on Defense where are you getting these quotes from

How could you possibly argue that with anything other than emotions? Kobe ain't nowhere near the Top 5 of all-time. He's in ther same range as Curry, Shaq, Olajuwon, Bird...That is great

@@yohannlaviempogue575 🧢🧢 I’m not going argue this BS with someone who probably couldn’t even make a JV team. Kobe has a better resume & skill set than Magic….

Kobe overrated. Even worse now that’s he is dead

@@Ch3w3dboy216 this doesn’t even deserve a response….troll

I'm glad you cut it off because you have no business watching if you upset by that fact. Kobe has never accomplished as much as Magic. Magic was also that dude from the jump when Kobe was not.