to answer a couple of your questions - Kyle is British, lol. He just has a different British accent from the area they grew up in than the others. I forget what the accent is called, something with an E? Chloe was the host before, she doesn't quite exist anymore. Chloe and another alter, Nina, fused together and became Nin. As to how many alters someone can have, it very much varies person to person. Some people only have one or two alters, others have hundreds. I doubt there's an actual limit, I don't think the brain works like that.
Now they’re called soren after a failed fusion of kya and a different alter (I’m pretty sure). And the amount of alters that they said they have now has doubled to 40+. (I didn’t write this to seem rude or anything I just wanted to give some new info on them :))
Highly recommend watching the film "But I'm A Cheerleader". It's a comedy that makes fun of conversion therapy in a light-hearted but also socially relevant way.
since DID is caused by childhood trauma, and alters are created to keep traumatic memories separate from each consciousness, alters are often a child's imagination of who would save them, or to company them etc. that they have seen in books, movies, or what they've heard from people that is why fantastical/non human alters exist, that is who a child imagine can save them, whether it is an ageless alien or a dragon for example and once your brain has developed DID as a trauma response, it is common for your brain to continue, as you live your life, developing alters whenever you're traumatised or extremely stressed as a response, that is why some people have so many alters
I love Nins channel ❤❤❤ the original host was Chloe but she integrated with another alter and hence Nin was born. But now Nin and Kyle also integrated and now they're Kya.
32:43 Yes you are understanding and making sense lol.... Each "finger" has it's own personality, memories, ethnicity, language, age, gender etc. it all depends on the trauma that caused the D.I.D.... each "finger" also has a specific job in the system, it's all to protect the body in it's own specific ways.... (That's sort of my understanding of it, people can correct me if I'm wrong)
there's a movie about conversion therapy called boy erased, i'm not gonna say it's good but it's raw (there's r*pe and suic*de) i remember watching it with my mom and she had a visceral reaction cause she had just started educating herself on lgbtq+ issues and couldn't believe other parents actually did that to their kids (i had come out like a year before and she thought i had "lied" to her cause "she never gave me a reason to hide it" and she didn't wanna listen when i'd say it was the little things) of course she realised i knew about conversion therapy, needless to say she felt bad for the way she treated me when i came out lol
I'm agnostic, but I grew up in a catholic family as a queer person so I'm always a bit fearful of christian people bc of that,, and let me tell you, it's so comforting to see someone who believes in god but does not let religion control what they should or not hate. I love that you are very openly supportive towards lgbtq+ people, it means a lot to us :') Even if I'm mostly here for the bts reactions, It's great to know that I'm watching someone with a good heart. 💜
Anthony and Ian are back together. 😂 Anthony is back at smosh, a few months now. He and Ian bought smosh. He still does his own stuff but smosh is his now. He’s been in videos.
This is the first video I’ve seen by you and you are my new favorite channel!!! I love the way you react and the input you have!!! Thank you for making my week!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
You should read 'Broken Mind, Fractured Soul,' a Harry Potter fanfiction where Harry has multiple personalities to deal with the Dursleys and other trauma. It's not entirely factual, I think, but it definitely helped me get a grasp on how someone could develop DID.
There have been people who have alters who are diabetic, smoke, are near sighted, left handed, but the host is not. As i remember, the diabetic alter needed insulin, but when they weren't fronting, the host had normal blood sugar levels. And while some people have tried to fake DID, the testing is very extensive and thoroughly to determine a diagnosis.
It’s crazy that I live in Utah (Mormon land) and I still hear about people sending their kids to conversion “camps”. It’s actually wilderness programs were you are isolated from society and forced to work. Basically labor out any thing bad with you whether it’s temper issues or LGBTQ. Super sketching because kids have gone missing or their parents never save them.
Yikes! In theory, a place for kids (when I say kids I mean fourteen and up) to do something productive and not destructive seems like a good idea, but this specific example seems Not Good.
I am so embarrassed to tell people I'm a Christian. I keep it quiet. I'm very liberal and what the conservative party has done to Christianity has made so many people hate God and its so sad.
Another W reaction and I swear you choose to react to the most interesting stuff !! Just a small comment, I hope it lands well :) Personally, I find it difficult to follow through with what the video is saying when you talk over it sometimes....I would suggest turning on CC for the videos that you are reacting to so that we can follow along and also listen to what you say. 😊 Thank you for the reaction !!
Jonathan watch the movies Split and Boy Erased...both covers the topics you just watched and its great movies/acting too... we can watch with you too😊😊😊
Especially the new album, I think he’d like it and the stories behind it but imma b honest doesn’t seem like he likes them that much to put them back on the channel
Yooooo! I can't believe I actually got the first comment finally. Now to actually watch the video, which I'm sure will make me unhappy content wise, but I'm happy to watch with the Tribe leader. I will edit with my thoughts when done. Edit: this was an absolutely fascinating watch. The first one makes me mad that this is still ongoing but so proud of the people who are willing to speak out. The second video was so intriguing and informative. I think the hand explanation made total sense! I'm glad they were all willing to be so open about sharing their experiences with the world. I'm also thankful to you for watching both videos so I could learn along with you.
What you've felt in 38:00 is called dissociation! Everyone is able to experience that despite not having DID, DID is a disorder that occurs when a child's brain learned to teal with every trauma by dissociating because their brain felt being aware of what was happening to them would not allow them to survive but dissociating is a brain function we all can do! I experienced it while having panic attacks and when I was on a car crash.
That was such a good reaction! I reacted just like you when I found out about DID, full of wonder and questions and just like you I was “they’d make a cool friend”, but then I realised that it is a TRAUMA caused disorder and specifically child trauma so all of our curiosity can easily come across as insensitive because you wouldn’t ask someone with war ptsd to tell you about their first traumatic memory, and the same with this, while I’d like to question the person with DID about what memories they have and why they came about etc. it would be very insensitive because mostly likely the answers would be traumatic and triggering, the best I could do was watch a bunch of videos from DID systems talk about it themselves 🙂
Sidenote: As someone with PTSD (not war-related, I am a flimsy clumsy female LOL), I am continually surprised by how often people will ask me "What happened? :0 ". It isn't everyone, but it happens more often than not. I totally agree with what you say about it being triggering/insensitive (even if it wasn't intended in that way), and DOUBLY agree with you and TribeLeaderLoui about your first reaction to learning about DID! I did the exact same thing. 💜 It can seem relatively easy in theory to be friends with someone who has undergone/is undergoing something traumatic, but in reality these things tend to show up in pretty unexpected, seemingly unrelated ways 😅 Still, it's so helpful to learn about people's experiences so you give yourself a fighting chance at being a better human! :D
Nin is from the uk and Kyle has a very strong accent so you were definitely on the right track with uk Unfortunately last I heard from their channel (disassociaDID) Kyle is no longer around as a separate alter, theres an explanation video with what happened it’s on their channel, I found that channel to be a very interesting insight to DID
DPR Ian that you reacted to previously actually has both DID and bipolar disorder! Mito and Mr. Insanity are based on his alters (Mito appears in his MV's often) and recently he also introduced The Hybrid who is a "branch" of Mito (you can see The Hybrid in the Limbo MV). Funny how this came full circle.
this is so fucking random loui but youre the best man youre such a good person and you always understand things so well and interpret new information so well. i hope you know how intelligent and kind you are bud love you ❤
Okay so I’m halfway through the video but to describe DID (well nin did a great job but if you’ve never encountered it before it can be confusing) essentially when you’re very young and you experience repeated severe trauma, your brain can tell you woah you can’t handle that your small brain can’t handle that let us take this child away from this suffering by putting amnesia barriers to make the child forget the trauma. That trauma is then held by an alter (another personality) this is to not let the host (the person that fronts the most) be aware of their past trauma so they can go on with their day to day lives. sometimes when something happens in their life or they need protecting or are triggered whether by happy stuff or terrible another alter fronts to protect the body. There’s a lot more stuff on how the system works internally etc but it’ll be an info dump and I don’t know if you want that 😂. Btw I’m not someone with DID, it’s just a very fascinating topic that I’ve researched since I was very young.
DissociaDID has been through so much. Even now people try to "prove" that they're faking despite DissociaDID showing evidence and official diagnosis from doctors. Most of the "evidence" people have is just based on their own experiences as well. So frustrating. Wishing them peace. ❤
Now you HAVE to remember that you said you would react to more DPR Ian lol.... He has Bipolar disorder and D.I.D and his music is kinda about it, characters that represents the emotional states he's in or goes through, he portrays it in a kind of storyline.... Please please please Tribe Leader ✨💜✨
I'm not religious, but it's really comforting to see someone who is a believer call out the hypocrisy that (sometimes) goes on in the church. I know there are good Christians in the world who actually believe in "love thy neighbour" and not casting the first stone, but being a queer person sometimes it can be easy to just see the hate that comes from some corners, and forget there are good people too. Thanks for speaking up and just having a relatable human reaction! Also, man... the fact that you were having panic attacks at 14 and were told you were possessed by demons... like that was going to help you panic less?? This is why it's so good that people are starting to learn more about mental health and we're destigmatizing going to (real) therapy. I hope you're doing a lot better now! I'm going to write a lil' essay here about DID because it's a subject I know about. Hopefully it will help inform anyone who's interested: I don't have full-blown DID but I do have a related dissociative disorder... think of it like DID being at the far end of a spectrum, and I'm somewhere lower down on the same spectrum. I had a very traumatic childhood. I don't have fully distinct 'alters' with amnesia, but I have distinct personality states which hold certain traumatic emotions related to different memories, and I don't always have control over which 'part' of me is 'at the front' of my consciousness and in control, especially if my trauma gets triggered. For me, I don't completely 'switch' between different alters and lose my memory - there's one part of me which is continually conscious (almost) all the time. You could call it the 'host' part, and it's like the calm, competent adult part that most people meet. But they aren't always the one in the driving seat, if that makes sense, sometimes they're pushed to the back and just get to observe. Occasionally in moments when I'm highly triggered they actually go out of focus for a while and I can't properly remember what happened. Unlike someone with full-blown DID my 'parts' (I don't call them alters because they're less distinct than that) don't feel like completely separate people with different names, genders, personas etc. They all feel like 'me' but basically at different ages, relating to different periods in my life, and with different dominant emotions and attitudes. Some of them 'hold' specific traumatic emotions which I can't access most of the time. It's like all the trauma from that specific thing is contained in that one sectioned-off part of myself, and that part of myself is still kind of existing in the past, back when those traumas occurred. When one of those parts comes to the front it feels a bit like 'time travel', like I'm still awake and aware of the present moment, but it 'feels' like I'm the me from 20 years ago, right back in a snapshot of myself at that time. Although I know what's happening, where I am, what year it is etc. and I'm still living my life, the way I'm perceiving things is as if I'm stuck in the situation/perspective I was in back then. (This is different from a PTSD 'flashback' where I might temporarily lose track of being in the present moment, and actually be totally immersed in a memory as if I had literally time travelled). Sometimes it feels like there's more than one 'part' in my head at the same time, and they are bringing very different memories and perspectives. They could have a conversation with each other and it would kind of be like two different people talking. It's different than when you just have conflicted feelings about something or you're giving yourself a pep talk, it's really like there are two separate perspectives that I'm looking out of at the same time, or like I'm switching back and forth very quickly. I've done work with visualisation in therapy, and it's really like switching back and forth between two bodies, looking out from two different pairs of eyes. In my head it's like two different people in the same room. It's legit freaky to experience, but I'm also very used to it. It took me years to be able to name what I was experiencing, and most people would never know I have anything like that going on. In therapy or when I'm triggered by a memory, I can feel one part of me receding and another one coming up, and depending on which part of me is 'at the front' I can access different emotions and a different sense of self, or temporarily lose access to other parts of myself. Like I'll be triggered by something in therapy and be sobbing and shaking and losing my mind, and then another part will step in and suddenly I'm sitting up straight, my tears dried up, and I feel calm and collected. I can't even access the emotion any more if I wanted to. Sometimes I can't access any parts of myself at all and I'm just 'not present' for a while. That tends to look like just sitting still or lying down staring into space, and I have very little memory from those times, just vague echoes. With long term therapy I've been working on processing the trauma related to all these parts, and trying to integrate into a more 'singular' person. The important thing to understand is that of course someone with DID ultimately is just one person, there's nothing mystical or magical going on. What's happening is different parts of the brain are being activated at different times. It's all part of the same person, but the brain is selectively shutting down different parts at different times to protect itself. This is a pattern it was forced to build in during early childhood trauma, since that was the only way to survive emotionally at the time. Also when someone says one of their alters is 'eternal' or a young woman describes one of her alters as 'a 40 year old man' and so on, that's just them trying to describe what it feels like, it's obviously not a literal reality. Those alters represent a type of person or character that their brain felt was useful or necessary for survival at the time. But sometimes people do have alters that are essentially 'stuck' at a young age, and they really will feel/act like they're 5 years old when that alter is activated, because that part of the brain essentially 'fractured' away from the rest during some particularly traumatic incident when they were 5, and didn't develop along with the rest. It's possible with a lot of long-term therapy to work with all kinds of parts to help them learn and grow individually, and potentially even 'integrate' into a combined personality with the other parts. But not everyone can (or even wants to) integrate completely. For some people it's enough to just work on getting their parts/alters to be aware of each other and to be able to remain conscious all at the same time, so they can live a less confusing, more continuous life, even though they still feel like they are 'multiple people' sharing one body. (This got too long, see part 2 in the reply! If you read this far it's not too much more lol)
(part 2) Personally I HATE the way DID is covered in mainstream media, it's completely twisted and adds to this intense stigma where people think we're 'crazy' and 'scary' and unpredictable, like we lack moral judgement and intelligence, like we might just 'snap' and suddenly attack someone for no reason or whatever. In reality we're just normal people who went through some seriously terrible shit as kids and have usually spent most of our lives just trying to survive, trying to understand what's happening to us, and mostly suffering by ourselves in private. As was mentioned in the video, we're actually less likely to be violent than average, and more likely to be re-victimized. Also yes, some people do fake having DID... or perhaps some of them aren't 'faking' but they're just confused, because there's been a lot of misinformation on tiktok etc. over the last few years. It's to the point where psychologists had to develop a new set of screening tests to catch out people who collected a list of symptoms on the internet, but don't actually understand what it feels like... However I think it's important to say that: 1) We can never be sure who's 'faking'. DID presents in different ways, and some people get accused of faking when they really do have the disorder, which must be completely devastating. I don't recommend harassing so-called fakers. 2) Some people might be misguided and truly believe they have the disorder, when they actually have some other disorder. They aren't necessarily faking having a problem, they're just confused. 3) DID is more common than people think, so there are actually quite a lot of people who have it. Finally, I want to say that the distinction between DID experiences and 'normal' experiences aren't quite as clear as people like to think. Honestly the distinction between being 'mentally ill' and 'mentally healthy' isn't quite as clear as people like to think. It's actually more like a natural range of human experiences, although some are obviously much more extreme than others. Most people experience some form of dissociation at some point in their life, e.g. when you're in shock, or having a panic attack, or feeling severely depressed, or just feeling really 'spaced out' that's a form of dissociation. The way time seems to slow down or speed up during an emergency is due to dissociation. Also a lot of people have some feeling of having different 'sides' to themselves - not just a persona they put on at work, but actually a different inner sense of self that comes out in certain circumstances. It's normal to have 'inner voices' and have some kind of conversations with yourself, and some sense of internal conflict. It's pretty common to have experienced some kind of trauma in life, sadly a lot of people go through bad shit... so all of those things I listed aren't the same as having DID. Not at all. But at a neurological level they're not 100% separate either. They're part of a wide spectrum of dissociative experiences, and everyone has some kind of relationship to that spectrum. A lot of people are out here struggling with a somewhat fractured sense of self. On the one hand this means that people can get confused when they read about DID or dissociative disorders and start thinking "oh shit, I have an inner voice, I feel like a different person sometimes, do I have DID?" and that can be misleading, and could even lead people with anxiety to start obsessing over their experiences in an unhelpful way. On the other hand, it isn't always useful to look at dissociative disorders as 'mental illnesses' that are totally separate from 'mentally healthy' people's experiences - dissociation is just the brain's natural defense mechanism, and DID is a natural response to intolerable, overwhelming traumatic experiences in childhood. So some of those same mechanisms can come up in smaller ways for a wide range of people. It's good for 'normal' people to learn about trauma, and to learn about how people with severe trauma are affected. Perhaps that might help them reflect on some 'smaller' traumas they've experienced themselves (trauma is still trauma), and reflect on how their own brain reacted to those experiences. There are a lot of people walking around who don't have DID, but they're still somewhat dissociated from themselves, they're still somewhat compartmentalising themselves, shutting down and distancing parts of themselves in order to cope. Even for someone who doesn't have DID or anything like it, I think learning more about trauma can help them work on becoming more self-aware about all parts of themselves, and more accepting of even the 'difficult' parts of themselves, their past, and their personality, which they usually want to turn away from. In that way, they can work on loving themselves more completely, and becoming a more harmonious, integrated person. When you can truly accept your whole self, it's easier to work on becoming a better version of yourself. (Love Yourself era never ends y'all 💜) Anyway, thank you for reacting to that video with an open mind, it always makes me nervous when the subject comes up, but it's good to see people starting to learn more about it!
Mad respect for the how you go out of your way to try to learn about and understand things outside of your own human experience, it’s something not a lot of people are comfortable doing and should always be commended ❤ ONCE AGAIN gotta push my DPR Ian agenda, as he is someone who has bipolar and DID and uses his music to try to explore it and tell a story, and spreads awareness through his work and just by being so open to talking about it to his fans and in interviews. He’s a beautiful human being, seeing him in concert was truly a life changing experience and I cannot recommend a deep dive into him enough, I promise you won’t regret it
-How many alters can a system have. There is no limit for them. There are Polyfragmented DID systems, those systems have more than 100 fragments. That doesn't mean they are all alters, some of those parts may be just a separated memory.
DID is created through trauma and dissociating on a high level. Basically what happens is that the brain separates those experiences along with the trauma from the person who experienced it as a defence mechanism, those other "parts" later on fully develop as a person separately from other alters, and basically you end up having multiple people in one body.
23:46 i always say that faith, or religion itself, isn’t the issue - it’s “the church”, the one created by men, the entity used to disseminate whatever ideals the people in power want, in order to *control* the masses. even the bible is just a book written by humans, that has been translated into multiple languages, multiple times, using different lines of thinking. writing that can always be tweaked and altered just enough to fit whatever agenda one might have. “the church” has more power and influence than people realize (or want to admit). we have churches here literally telling people who to vote for during elections, taking advantage of people who are desperate for any sort of salvation. and meanwhile, i have a very religious grandma who lives in the “countryside” here, practicing her faith is one of the few things that makes her happy, at 80 years old, and she has never treated me or any of my cousins differently for being LGBTQ+, even if she knows barely anything about the matter. my cousin came out as non-binary a few years ago, and since we don’t really have a “neutral” language, he prefers to go by he/him. my grandma didn’t really get it, and would often question my uncles or other family members about it - but she never questioned my cousin. at soon as they came out, she simply adjusted her language, and started refer to them with their preferred pronouns and name. i remember one uncle asking me to explain what the word “cis” meant, and throughout the whole conversation, as i explained and mentioned different sexualities and gender identities, my grandma made lots of comments, but none of them were related to religion. to me, religion/faith itself was never the problem, but, like you said, how men have twisted the values we should presumably have. ... sorry for gigantic rant 💁♀️
Love that you react to so many things I watch. Of course BTS, but then rotten mango, now Anthony Padilla. The second video was one of the first sit down videos I watched of his.
I most definitely don't have D. I. D. but I can see their perspective vividly. I have voices after all, it's complicated to explain but trust me I'm fine 😅 There's over 100 voices I hear because I give characters in books a voice. I've read over 80 books (paper and e-books) I also have a good imagination and psychology interests me but I don't think I'm ready to be a therapist or anything like that. I do think I might be bipolar tho
I'm gonna be so excited if you dabble into the rabbit hole that is the "I spend a day with..." series by Anthony. They are all super interesting and fun 🧡🤩
