Trip in P180 Avanti. 

Annoyingly loud, it’s been banned at some airports. I hate every time I hear one fly over.😝

@@foxlake6750 Is there a list where it is banned?

I love the way it sounds move over and get out of the way

I used to fly out of Van Nuys too. Great field, with a lot of history 16R

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I still prefer analog metres than digital ones : )

I know! Been talking to the owner! He comes from a HondaJet

@@stratobee Nice! That's what he also told me.

Many reasons. It's unconventional looking and aircraft buyers are very conservative. Also, it was priced as a light jet (as it had similar performance), and many customers who are going to spend $7 million would then rather be seen in a true jet, as propellers still carry stigma. Also, there was here in US a skepticism against Piaggio and Italian manufacturers that played in and they worried about service and parts availability. Today the owner/pilot customer has discovered it in the used market as a cheaper alternative to jets. Piaggio made the mistake of marketing it to charter and jet companies when they should have been targeting it to business owner/pilots from the beginning.

It's got an odd heating pattern. Two areas per each window, but a lot of space is unheated.

Why is product support a nightmare?

The piaggio p 180 reduces outer noise a lot

Think it just had a runway excursion in bad weather and bent a wing tip. She's been back flying for awhile.

@@stratobee oh good!!

Electrically heated. technically they're a forward wing, as they don't have control surfaces.

This one costs more. But it also perform a lot better.

Also noticed the tap tap on the left ITT gauge to get the needle to work. Is that common? Not a big deal since it has the digital numeric readout as well as the needle, but very nice to have the needle for a quick glance to make sure temp is in proper range.

@@HQBergeron I think he is gently pointing at the gauge he is actually cheking

@@HQBergeron I noticed the double tap too. Sticky gauge? 01:30

it needs autothrottle and autopitch as well...and the props can be upgraded to 7 blades for more speed...and they could give it more range say 2200nm to get to hawaii and whatnot...

@@MariktheWolf ::: 7 blades is a bit much. Marginal gain not worth the extra weight and cash. The current 5 blade scimitar is great. Going transcontinental is more popular than going to Hawaii - The P180 does it well.

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It's on par with a Mustang or VLJ. About $1000-1200/hr plane. The most expensive thing on these is the gear inspection every 12 years. It's very expensive. But fortunately, if you're part 91, you don't have to comply with that. Also, these are "big block" PT6's and they are expensive to overhaul. But the great economy comes in it's performance. You simply can't find anything that does 370kts on 460pph total and carries 9 people in stand-up cabin.

@@stratobee wow, those specs are almost identical to an Eclipse 500 but the 180 has significantly more passenger room! What a great plane.