This is a great report! I visit Israel every year because my daughter lives there. El Al, United, Delta, Lufthansa. 747, 777, 787, A-340. Yes, you understand the security measures. Don’t feel bad, they do the same to me! The only logical explanation I have for the windows is that the Dubai desert sun probably uses more power for air-conditioning, so maybe they were trying to reduce power consumption. I’ve been on El Al’s retro 787, and I have a takeoff here on YT, if you want to see it. The old 777 economy was far more comfortable (3-3-3) than the 787.
Thanks for writing Dave! I don’t mind the security measures, I just mind ending up with all the suspects all the time😂 I don’t think the window situation has any answer except for personal preference of the person who dimmed it. It was a winter day in Dubai with temperatures around 21°C.. I’l check out your video, I’m happy to see the B777! Regards to you and yours!
@@TheLayoverAviation Thanks! This is the El Al 787 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oRRc_8B8SXg.html; this is the El Al 747 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M0L9RDOtWqw.html; this is the El Al 777 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uMprPPwT0qQ.html (just erase them if you'd rather not show them on your channel; my videos are just routine crap!)
It takes me extra hours to find the destination so I think that the distance would take even longer😅 I thought about putting the flying time, what about that?
I knew they always had enhanced security but never thought it was to that extreme. But I guess it’s the cost of business flying with them given their circumstances. I must say the product looked phenomenal. Loved that you decided to share this video of a less heralded airline like El Al.
The product is stunning! I’m very happy I tried it. But yes, the security for those like me is very harsh. Perhaps it’s easier for the ordinary Joe. Thanks for watching!
let me tell you its in economy class to becous that the cost to fly to israel you need to have a good secure becous a lot of terrorist are trynig to came to israel so el al is really expensive but really secure
@@thelogmanyt1242Yea, I’ve basically had their security personnel asking me and my family a bunch of questions back in 2019 for about 10-15 minutes before we were allowed to pass and that was also a regular economy flight.
Yes, and I understand why they do so. It’s just easier to select a different airline if you’re not that worried about your own security. Thanks for watching, and yes, peace above all.
Considering the very hostile environment El Al is operating in I fully understand their very strict security measures even though it also affects people with no bad intentions. If more Muslim countries followed Bahrain's and the UAE's example things might slowly improve but the extreme misinformation and hatred that most Muslim countries taught their people over decades and still do makes me doubt that El Al can ever let down its guard
I also understand it, I just don’t know how I always end up with the most suspicious people. There’s various “threat” levels from what I observed, 3 different security lines and I always end up at the worse. I unfortunately don’t see anyone letting their guard down in the foreseeable future. Regards and thanks for writing!
There is no such thing as extreme misinformation. The facts are clear. Isreal is guilty of some of the worst crimes against humanity on this present day and age, on palestinians. EL Al just suffers from the consequences as the flagship of Israel and rightly so. Hopefully no one else follows the disgusting example of Bahrain and the UAE so that they always have to be on their guard just like what they do to Palestine. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
terrible way to describe the situation , there is no misinformation in this scenario , its a fact israel has committed atrocities and theres no need to act surprised why the hostility is there and pinning the blame on muslim nations
The cabin blew my mind! Much better then expected. And yes, turbulence is fun! Unless people around me start getting sick, that has happened to me too 🤮
I hate when they crew locks out the window controls on the 787 etc.! I mean I chose a windows seat for a reason right?!! The seat layout/config kind of reminded me of Cathay Pacific a bit, but better! I liked the look of the Salmon they gave you but the canned meal meh lol ;( The clear view of the clouds on your landing decent/approach was awesome! Thanks again! Hope you have a great upcoming fam vaca!
3:03 I’m also getting these questions as a German who hasn’t been flying to any Muslim countries before. Instead they’ll ask me things like: Why are you flying to Israel. Where do your friends there come from. How did you meet them. Where will you stay, etc. However, it won’t really take any longer than 10 minutes for me to pass their security checks.
I love the Boeing 787, it is one of my favorite aircraft. What I cannot stand is when the crew blocks the windows controls, for me I see that as a disrespect.
No matter what the service is like, if the crew can control my window view then I'm not interested in giving them my business. The crew can fly all year but for some customers this could be a rare experience and they should be able to see out, especially if they selected a window seat for that very purpose!
BR Trip Report, based on what I have heard about Israelis (extremely rude, arrogant, over-bearing, and aggressive), the fact that they did something as unpleasant and "disrespectful" as dimming the windows and IMPOSING their will on the passengers seems in keeping with the national character. The negative opinions which I have heard about Israelis seem also to be partially corroborated by the remark made by the maker of this video about not expecting any finesse or smiles when one flies with EL AL. Therefore, I am not surprised by the lack of finesse exhibited by the cabin crew in dimming the windows regardless of whether the passengers wanted it or not.
There were smiles and kindness. But not in the service oriented way like in the Gulf airlines. A different personality. And the window dimming I’ve had on other airlines to from everywhere, even Etihad/United and more. Just not for take off.
Fantastic stuff!!! The seats and the cabin look so chic and classy. As a flight safety procedure, window shades/dimmers need to be up/bright during the critical phases as it assists everyone to see the outside conditions and take necessary actions during emergency situations.
It’s an incredible seat indeed. And yes, I suspected so about the blinds/lights. Some airlines don’t care at all. But I’ve never seen it all forcefully dark on take off.. 😞 Thanks for writing and always adding some interesting info Neville!
They dont usually dimm the windows bcoz i travelled in the same flight a week ago so idk why they did it to you, could be bcoz they forgot or something else
It surprises me that there was no armoured vehicle on the tarmac protecting the El Al flight as this is customary practice at many airports around the world whenever an El Al jet lands and is stationed there thank you very much and enjoy your evening 🤗🤗
This is not really done anymore, I haven’t seen it in a long time. I used to see it in Germany but that was about it. There is armed officers at some airports in front of the gate, but at few places. Dubai is very safe!
Hey Bro! Thats a nice flight...food looks so tempting..m sure u had a good appetite....going thru the clouds felt like u r Flash Gordon in his Fireball XL5 space ship 😀😀.. Thnks again Alex......cheerios!!!
Would recommend you to please fly Dubai to Mangalore (IXE), India in Air India Express 🇮🇳 Mangalore has a tabletop airport and you get to witness one of the most beautiful landing!
I learn so much from your videos! On the weekend I booked flights to visit family this summer. Extra layovers to tick a few airports off my list. And I’ll make sure to arrange for a later pick up at AMS by my brother so I can do some plane spotting! 😀✈️ count down is on! Thanks again
I’m glad you do Melissa! Im sure you’ll have a great spotting session in AMS. Where will you be traveling from/to? But it’s still a long time to the summer, I hope you get to fly again soon!
One of the better B787 cabins indeed Avishai, I loved it. Same seat as Qatar Airways’ B787-9 but I liked it better despite no door. And the livery is stunning. I remember that the old one made me scared as a little kid when I was spotting 😅 Yes, Arkia and Israir too! I think those are the only missing as I already filmed Flydubai. Thanks for watching!
If you don’t go with the flow you have to swim uphill, which only salmons are stupid enough to do. Don’t be a salmon 😂 And enjoy life! Thanks for the comment Emanuel!
Wow,just wow!! Even a goldliner for you! Hahah...he didnt guess my card 😂😂...they dummed the great view How dare them😵!,but atleast they unlocked it for you, big plus! I would fly their old 772,cuz my views could be better than on Dreamliner...i would lkke to say my option on LY787, but i didnt fly with it yet... The lunch dont look good,but i think you loved it!...Woah! Trick or Treat 😍 Oh,i need to study more! I did not know that EL AL pilots used to be military pilots! Great video my friend, love it!😍
He didn’t guess it? it is so likely you’ll choose the card he wants you to choose. An easy trick. I’m also looking forward to fly the B777-200ER with RR engines, but it’s important to sit in front of them to hear the music!☝🏼 The lunch main course was one of the best I’ve had. Just simple good food and nothing fancy. Most of the El Al pilots were in the military, yes. Everyone in Israel has been to the military except for those excempted!
There were meals that seemed bigger but I was tempted to try the Souvlaki and it was a good choice. I finished it all and was full. The flight attendant offered me a second meal but I had to refuse as I was very full.. I hope you get to try it!
Excellent review. Had an amazing experience when we flew to TLV last year, we didn't experience any of the intrusive security, if anything we were given the royal treatment and were virtually waved through at every opportunity. and we were just Premium economy on BA. Looking forward to coming home again as soon as we can. Hopefully in the autumn and it wil be ELAL as BA have dumped their club world service on the route and its now just an awful club europe product significantly more expensive than EL AL Business !
I was wondering if they had any other drinks besides the wines… I think I might have asked, that’s what I would do but can’t remember now😂. My father in law collects miniature alcohol so I’m sure I asked for something and the answer was likely no.
@@TheLayoverAviation It was a well made film, but i had a hard time with Tom Hans dutch accent. It sounded like the crazy one in the Austin Powers movie, gold member.😂
Yeah I've heard someone else mentioning the windows are blacked out and locked by cabin crew. That's just wrong and I'll avoid flying @ELALairlines 787 in the future!
I refuse to fly on the B787 because the crew on most airlines control the window shading. I need to have control the of the blinds because the best IFE is on the other side of the window. The food looks like it was delivered by a takeaway restaurant. The captions on your videos are superb and informative. More airline vloggers should follow your example.
I don’t mind the shades on the B787. I mind crew blocking them. In many airlines they’re not allowed to do that. Yes, the food looks indeed like delivery but that’s ok sometimes. Simple food is sometimes the best. thanks for the nice comment and I hope you keep enjoying Tony. Something nice is coming out tomorrow😛
I think it’s a route that they’ve just started! I fly often to Japan and I wish I could take it, but it’s quite the detour for me.. More flights to Japan coming soon!
So all the 99.99% of flights it’s being done wrong? Nope, not the reason. Dimming the lights applies on. night flights, not daytime. If I would have to evacuate during the day and the cabin was dark I would be blinded by the sun at the door.
I think you flew over my house 🏠...lol. Seriously though, as an Israeli I am sad to see how El Al has really gone downhill in every way. If you want to be a budget airline, then charge accordingly. The past years I've had so many bad experiences....from 4 back to back last minute cancellations to Dubai, to overbooking. The last straw was outsourcing to a Czech budget airline in Georgia. Dirty plane. Nothing to drink. No security despite being an EL AL flight. I tore up my frequent Flyer card. Booked Virgin to the States.
I would have said hi if I knew, Susan! El Al faces an insanely lot of competition and high bills, not only security wise but also because of them grounding all of their planes during Shabbat. So the only way to bring costs down is by cutting a lot of costs. But Business Class on this short flight was very good, in my opinion. Sad to hear about your cancellations. I also faced 3 with El Al but due to security issues from my side, so I ended up missing my flights. I was talking yesterday about Virgin to a friend, I love them and will do my best to fly them again soon!!
I find it hard to believe that security would question you for 8 hours. On every international flight i've been on you are required to arrive 2-3 hours before departure.
Hey thanks for writing! They are usually blocked for take off and landing but not in the darkened position. pd. I found all of your messages in the spam folder, they likely don’t like your user name. I’ll respon.
@@TheLayoverAviation I am just greatful to see your reply. For me you are flying lifestyle i wish to adapat so just greatful to see your videos and messages.
One reason not to fly El Al is this: flying economy I pre order kosher food. So I always get my food first, independent from where I sit. Think this doesn’t work at El Al. 😅
And I don’t think they serve any other special meals in order to keep it fully kosher. But I might be wrong. Otherwise just order a veggie meal Wouter! But smart move🤪
Don't take it personally , is probably because you travel to arab countries you get the extra security. I live in Israel (wasn't born here) and sometimes I get weird questions as well
Thanks for the info, I kind of suspected it amongst other reasons. It just gets extremely tiring. Specially when I start missing flights and losing my patience😂 All the best with future travels!
I’ve flown on PIA before and hope to make something nice. It all depends on the day. What I do know for sure is that the food in Pakistan will be great! pd. Now that I’ll visit Pakistan I’ll have to spend again hours in line in Tel Aviv hahaha
@@TheLayoverAviation can't help you there buddy lololol. But honestly can't wait for this! Was also pleasantly surprised when Simply Aviation did their KHI-LHR on PIA's 77W.
Because once the recent Abraham Accord was signed, relations between Dubai and Israel was finally normalized, flights had begin flying back and forth between these routes.
The answers are endless.. Some of them make sense and others perhaps a bit controversial. Tourism, business, money, diamonds, security, it goes on.. But mostly tourism from what I see!
A good question. If you miss it for security reasons you get a voucher to either refund or reschedule your flight. That was my case in Tel Aviv a few times. It took me 3 tries to fly El Al!
ohh alex! i missed the Israeli series :D el al has a lot of potentials as you said(more or less), I wonder why they dimed the window in the takeoff time. i flow with the 789 last year to London and they didn't dim anything (pretty sure), bit weird but at least they opened it for you!. you made me hungry with this soflaki shawarma staff :D thanks for being an ambassador for flights between Israel and other countries! you are the best :D hope you had an excellent time in tel Aviv!
It was filmed for some months, but I want to mix and match video’s a bit. I’m glad they opened it for me. And I think it was just for me! The seats, IFE and cabin are stunning. Even the meal was perfect for a short flight. It’s just little details during the service that can be improved on. I always have a great time in Tel Aviv as long as it’s not in the airport!😂 Just Arkia and Israir to go, as flydubai is already filmed. See you around buddy!
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El Al is notorious for this and they have very good reasons to have such tight security. Don't fly them if you're put off by it (they don't give a fuck if anyone is)
So at every airport worldwide regarding El Al, there is always a security officer assigned to the airline’s ground staff at the check in desk? And how does the security interrogation processing works?
Many Shin Bet officers! And the process is very secret, so it is likely that there is a lot more to it. So your passport details will be checked against Mossad, FBI, MI6, Interpol etc etc data. Then the questions go like “ where are you going, who are you seeing, where are you from, where do you live, with who do you live, how is your wife called, how is your assistant called, how many Arab friends do you have, why did you go to Egypt in February, how long did you go, etc etc.”. They ask the same question in different ways to see if you answer the same. And there are even more questions. They’re trained to check for your honesty and reactions.
Yes, israel is a country that had a lot of terrorist attacks and wars by the time. So more terrosrists can do attacks on planes. This security is needed for you. And by the way this is more then questioning el al has more secure flying systems and they even have a anti-missile system! (Due to prevent missiles that are most likely coming from Gaza) it’s not surprising me El Al is the most secure airline in the world. But also in El Al as any other airline. However It’s extremely rare to a emergency to happen if it’s a terrorist or if it’s a missile or if it’s fire or if it’s a emergency landing. #ILoveELAL#Security
