Triumph Fan's FIRST RIDE REVIEW on the BSA GOLDSTAR

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As a former Bonneville owner, I was thrilled to take out the Goldstar 650 during the BSA event at Thor Motorcycles Bodmin. See how I got on!
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Bike: BSA Goldstar 650
Camera: GoPro Hero 5 Black
Edited: DaVinci Resolve 18
A UK Motovlog.
Index:
0:00 - First Ride
11:48 - Walkaround
15:56 - First Ride Cont.

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30 июл 2024

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@ianhalliwell8604 2 месяца назад

I've had mine 12 months, no stalling issue's, infact no issues at all except from initial engine light which came on because I wasn't starting it properly. It's got bags of character and gets constant comments when parked up. Love it.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Ideal, that's what we like to hear!

@christophermasters57 2 месяца назад

I absolutely adore mine never had any issues with it over the last year it’s great to ride ‘easy to maintain and the dealership was great I can’t knock anything about it tbh I bang out 200mile round trips easily on it when it’s not pissing down

@garywoods765 2 месяца назад

Good review bits i agree with bits i don't but thats the way it should be but definitely a balanced review

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Cheers Gary, I appreciate that

@Stefan_trekkie 2 месяца назад

That style of engine from Rotax was in the old BMW 650 GS, also the Aprilia Pegaso 650 /The Italians switch to Yamaha 660 engine later/ This bikes are still around and the people enjoy them all over Europe.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah Rotax know what they're doing so aside from these cutout issues it should promise some good reliability.

@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 месяца назад

Those Austrian made motors are still running good 👍. As for the Chinesiom version let's wait and see. Suzuki S-40 650 singles are much better as well as better looking.

@kasperkjrsgaard1447 2 месяца назад

If it was mine I’d replace the silencer and move the rear light assy further up near the seat. I really like it thought, even if I only seen it on the web. Think it’s looking good. But then, I’m not british.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Definitely, I think it looks great as an overall styling package, and I'm young enough to not have the "it's not a real BSA" attitude because I don't remember the originals.

@TheRoadWarrior96 2 месяца назад

Seems you’ve thoroughly enjoyed that. Always exciting when a bike subverts expectations in a good way. Hard to imagine it feeling peppy though with what I’m used to on the 701, but it looks a lot more liveable with, especially when you did that chug test! You must be thinking about getting your hands on an RE next?

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

It would definitely be interesting to try out the RE yeah, see how it compares.

@zedcharlie 2 месяца назад

I have one . Engine is lovely. Paid 5495 new. Brill

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

@@zedcharlie Excellent! Have you had any issues during your ownership that people should look out for?

@zedcharlie 2 месяца назад

@@TheSpectre223 Engine light when new but I was pressing start after sweep. You have to wait for engine light to go out. 2 seconds after clocks have swept. Not been on since. Odd cut out but only on down change. I had interceptor. Nice but I prefer low grunt and 5 speed box on bsa. Interceptor was uncomfortable for me at 6ft4. Hoping cut out prob is software update but if not I can live with it. Only does it occasionally. But power is way better than expected. Grunt where I want it. Not interested in going more than 70 anymore. Been there, done that. 😁

@snehalpatel9605 2 месяца назад

thanks for the heads up about the BSA events...I've booked a "ticket" for the Edinburgh ride out...and now just need to work out the logistics of getting there...if I can, it should be amazing [surly!]...have booked as a reserve which I'm assuming results in 'one' getting a ride on any free bikes within the alloted time slots? Please advise. [will be travelling up from London[istan].

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Great to hear you'll be checking out the BSA too, I hope you have a good time with it! For the reserve tickets, you should check with them just to make sure, maybe reach out on social media, but that was my understanding too. They have a handful of bikes available, I think there were five or so at the event I went to. People with specific time-slot tickets are allocated bikes for that time, and then anyone with a reserve ticket (or I guess who just turn up on the day) can take out any surplus bikes left over.

@snehalpatel9605 2 месяца назад

@@TheSpectre223 Sadly, have just read the small print and have realised I would be able to get on a bike as I've only had a full license for 10 months... and also I have a disqualification on my license in 2022, a legacy from my Ubering days...

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

@@snehalpatel9605 Ahh that's a shame. At least you realised now though and didn't go all the way there to be turned away

@nicholasjarrold8649 2 месяца назад

First look at your channel and I’m hooked now I’ve subscribed and hit the bell will watch and follow you your views on the bsa I would look at one but think it might be not powerful enough but excellent review ride safe take care and I love them magnas what you’ve got I’ve got a Honda shadow 750 1987 immaculate condition but my main ride is a triumph rocket 3gt chrome edition 2023 still running it in and that is a beautiful bike oh and the seat on the bsa stands for bldy sore arse 😂 so expect nothing else😂😂👍👋

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Hey man, thanks for the sub and the kind words, they're really appreciated! Your Shadow and Rocket are both a great choice of bikes, though rather you than me with the Chrome edition; I had the chrome, mirror-finish engine casings on my T100 Bonnie and that was enough effort to keep clean for me, let alone the whole tank and everything on yours!

@nicholasjarrold8649 2 месяца назад

@@TheSpectre223 ye takes alot of cleaning but I have a son who’s mad on cleaning cars and bikes very thorough like his mum so that helps I always said he should have been a woman 😂😂take care now gonna watch your bike night in loo is it I’m coming for holiday to Cornwall in June 22nd hired a lovely house for the week bye for now

@HardyBunster 2 месяца назад

The dials aren’t upside down. They are the same way round as all dials but the hands just start at a different position.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah you are right, but visually they appear 'upside down' as the needle sweeps right to left in the lower hemisphere, instead of left to right at the upper. Either way it's a nice call-back to the older bikes, and I didn't find it too hard to adjust to.

@Rebel-Forces-Earth-007 13 дней назад

I can't wait to acquire one here in Southern California! Although that annoyingly oversized and rather ugly radiator will have to go, and I'm quite certain it can be swapped out for a significantly smaller and less bulky factory Triumph T120 radiator. Maybe someone who's a mechanic can verify that?!

@TheSpectre223 13 дней назад

Hmm that would be an interesting mod. I'd have to see the two bikes side by side to appreciate the size difference I think, but if there's a way to reduce the front profile without affecting the efficiency it could be a good upgrade.

@hermitmonk52 2 месяца назад

Yes but they stopped making the air cooled Bonneville in 2015 and it sounds as if yours wasn’t running right.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

My Bonnie was running fine, like I said it was only the perception vs the actual performance. As for it being an older model, well I can only compare to the bikes I have experience with, which in this category is my bike. Used Bonnies are still part of the conversation though because you can get a whole lot for the same price as a new BSA or RE (on autotrader for example, a 2021 liquid-cooled T100 with 10k miles from a main dealer) and they have to compete against those just as much as they do the brand new stuff.

@splodge5714 2 месяца назад

They need to fix the engine cutting out. It seems a common problem that is dangerous and unacceptable.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah I'm seeing a few people mentioning it now, not ideal for sure. Might need a software patch, or I wonder if you can adjust the idle speed, bring it up a hundred rpm. My Bonnie had a mock fuel mixture screw which let you adjust the idle.

@kasperkjrsgaard1447 2 месяца назад

Probably the results from lean and pollutionfree mixture. A clever mechanic with the proper software might be able to fatten up the mixture. Low idle doesn’t help either.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 For sure yeah, a lot of bikes these days benefit from an exhaust and remap. Shouldn't be a requirement out the door though, but of course this is a very low mileage demonstrator so I'd imagine a regularly used personal bike might be running a bit more freely.

@LordTarbicus9497 2 месяца назад

It’s an awful fault and no updates re a fix. I had this issue as well as fuel leaks over HT leads. It got returned for a refund and I brought another better brand

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

There is a. Update available@@LordTarbicus9497

@davidtait7407 2 месяца назад

It’s 45 HP

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yep, 45hp, 41 ft-lb torque

@Geshmaal 2 месяца назад

I am really not a fan of this BSA "revival". Royal Enfield has a direct link to the original Enfields and has been coming up with new models and doing its own R&D etc. This new Gold Star 650 is more akin to the modern Benelli bikes, someone has slapped an old badge on a parts bin bike that utilises bits from various Chinese suppliers. Ignoring that, compared with the Interceptor 650 this thing is a worse value prospect. It's missing a centre stand and the maintenance schedule is still very frequent but also more complex than the Enfield, plus the dealership network is very sparse so good luck if something goes wrong. I will be very surprised if these things stay in production for much longer.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah I get where you're coming from with the history, and it would have perhaps been more genuine if they'd invented a new brand for this model range rather than using the BSA name to get them off the ground. Parts bin or not though I think it's a really good bike, and time will tell on reliability and longevity. The lack of centre stand is definitely annoying though; there's no reason for a bike of this genre not to have one. As for dealers, well they have 31 listed in the brochure, across the UK, Ireland and Jersey, so it's not as sparse as you might imagine. These dealers are shared, multi-brand units, like Thors where this event was held, so the quality of dealership support will vary considerably between them. That's true to Royal Enfield too though; they too have mostly shared units and varied quality. I don't think I'd be any more worried about BSA dealers vs RE ones, though I would want to see what the parts availability is with such a new brand.

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

It has been designed round a brief and I think you are misinformed about how much thought they have put into the production of the machine. Long may it thrive!

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

This is a designed machine, not a parts bin special!

@Flakmagnet1701 2 месяца назад

I like the overall concept, but the detail stuff really lets the side down. I could not live with those clocks. They are the wrong way up. The USB thing I would bin, the rear indicators are ugly. Move them to the back stay of the mudguard. Seats do not have to be vinyl covered planks of wood. I'm looking at it as an urban commuter, so they need to iron out the fuelling to stop those cutouts. Oh, and I need mirrors that work.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah a lot of valid points, that USB is crap. I do think if you could invert it, it'd be a lot less obvious, but I'd probably be hiding a smaller one somewhere on the forks. The indicators need to be swapped to a nicer set too, they let the side down. I think it's got bags of potential and just needs that extra 10% of finishing. But then, would you rather they do that and the price goes up a bit, or it stays (relatively) affordable but you have to chuck a hundred quid's worth of universal parts at it? I think it'd be a hoot for commuting beyond that though, the way it delivers the power is good for punchy urban riding, and with the 70mpg and Euro 5 it's a good contender.

@garywoods765 2 месяца назад

I have fifteen hundred miles on mine now got used to the clocks easier than i thought friend has an original bsa clocks are the same i put the tec rear light on the original is to cruiser looking for me so the indicators look better now mirrors are as good as my Japanese bikes when set properly yes the usb is an eyesore stalling had been sorted mine never did it the build quality is as good as the two bonnevilles ive had longest trip i have done was 140 miles and seat never bothered me vibes have disappeared with mileage but its goid to hear other opinions

@mebeasensei 2 месяца назад

All the old english ｂike’s had clock s this way including the enfields.

@steveh6373 2 месяца назад

The clocks are a tribute to the bikes of the old days just like the hands on a clock startling at 1 you would get used to them in no time

@bananabrooks3836 2 месяца назад

117 miles: Not run in. 213kg!

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yep, 213 wet, 198 dry. Not a lightweight but not terrible either. My Magna, by comparison, is 213 dry.

@simonbowen6653 2 месяца назад

A comparison with a 13 year old T100 seems strange. Get yourself on a Shotgun, similar money but way better ride and build quality. Rotax engine is a proven unit and the ride was okay but very vibby. Absolutely no comparison with the current T100 but much cheaper. I don't know what the sales are like but I haven't seen one in the wild.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Like I said, I can only compare it to the bikes I have experience with, which in this case is my Bonnie. And it's still a relevant comparison because like when I bought mine, for the price of the BSA or the REs you can get an extremely clean used Bonneville, and they need to compete against those just as much as they do the brand new ones. They're definitely no comparison to a brand new T100, but as you say it's a £2800 saving so you wouldn't expect them to. The used market is harder to beat though, and jumping on Autotrader right now you could get a 2021 liquid cooled Bonnie with 10k miles from an official dealer for the same price as the BSA. Harley has the same issue trying to sell new models and fighting their own used market. As for sales so far, I don't know the figures either but I've seen several out in the world, even one yesterday at a bike night, so they're definitely out there. I would be interested to see the full numbers though.

@malcolmmyatt9092 2 месяца назад

Back to front clocks, how annoying. That would put me off straight away, and it did just watching the clocks on this ride it’s a no no.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

I did find that I adjusted quicker than I expected, but yeah it's one of those quirks which you'll either immediately forget about, or be mildly annoyed by on every ride.

@markjones_007 Месяц назад

They're not back to front, they run clockwise like any other. They just start at a different position like the original.

@TheSpectre223 Месяц назад

@@markjones_007 Yes but the affect is that they're mirrored because the needle moves right to left in the lower half, instead of left to right in the upper.

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

The old British bike clocks, ran the same way!

@dirkdiggler5164 2 месяца назад

I'm glad they made this bike, because the more choices people have, the better! But that being said, I wonder if this Goldstar is going to succeed? You see, in America, BSA was never very popular, you know. They probably sold 25 Triumphs in the USA for ever 1 BSA they sold. And that would be the twins, the Goldstar, sold in the USA even less so! The Goldstar was really a British home-market hit in its day. It wasn't popular in the USA. So you aren't going to find very many BSA fans in the USA to begin with, and even fewer who are into Goldstars. Now as you point out , though, in Britain, the cats who dig the vintage Goldstars might not want this bike b/c its not British made and isn't up to super high finishing standards. It's also a "big bike"*premium price bike for the India market, and Enfield and Triumph with the new 400 are very competitive with 'big bike" offerings in India. I think this might be a bike that doesn't find a following. Who knows? If they came out with this bike in 1971, it probably would've saved the company!

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

It's an odd one yeah. You're absolutely right that there's a real risk of not impressing either the old market or the new riders, and being left to fall between the cracks. I hope it does well though, and they've already got a Bobber and Scrambler on the way. The Scrambler in particular I think will do extremely well with this motor, and as Royal Enfield still don't have a scramblerised version of their Interceptor you have a better chance at a market with that. It'll be a decisive couple of years either way though.

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

See Daytona, the original Gold Star, was almost banned, because it was too successful. BSA didn't discount the bikes as much as Triumph in the USA, they were always made to a set price. Overall, BSAs had a better reputation, especially the pre-unit twins. And the Rocket Three was also a better machine than the Trident.

@dirkdiggler5164 Месяц назад

@@johnnyhall7065 My Dad rode his pre-unit Triumph down to Maryland in the 1960s to race against guy with a BSA who had a famous reputation for having a BSA that couldn't be beaten by anything on the eastern seaboard--- the owner of said BSA owned a BSA dealership. My Dad raced him on his Triumph and smoked him. BSA had their fans, but they were somewhat few in number. I wouldn't agree that BSA had a better reputation than Triumph did.

@damiantuttle1348 2 месяца назад

No such thing as a 'New Goldstar ' or BSA for that matter .

@johnnyhall7065 2 дня назад

Your right! Goldstar was never made, but the Gold Star was!

@silastanner3803 2 месяца назад

I hope you end up in politics, Nick. You know what is up.

@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 месяца назад

Indian made fakir with a Chinese made engine made of Chinesiom.

@kyakaruvlogs2784 2 месяца назад

Indian made fakir i can understand but engine is Chinesiom?

@frankmarkovcijr5459 2 месяца назад

Yes it is a Chinese copy of the Rotax engine . Such a pathetic piece of crap. My BSA 441 Shooting 🌠 Star is more of a Gold Star than that. My 1950 C-15 looks just like a Gold Star. 250&350 singles are easier to start than my 441's. Half a kick and they are good to go .@@kyakaruvlogs2784

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

Absolute crap, the engine is an Austrian Rotax unit!

@malcolmmitchell6529 2 месяца назад

Calling that a gold star? Laughable.

@TheSpectre223 2 месяца назад

Yeah I do get it, it's not a 'real' BSA, it's neither a British bike or a British brand now, but is it not better to have the name back in this form than gone forever? If they do well who knows whether we'll get some production moved over here, maybe special editions like the TFC range from Triumph. I wish it was British too but then it'd have a pricetag like the Norton Commando which is almost three times as much.

@Turnipstalk 2 месяца назад

Having said which going from a real Triumph to a real Gold Star would cause lots of negative perceptions. Dreadful things.

@razgriz380 2 месяца назад

@@Turnipstalkthe Goldstar was never a terrible thing. BSA made superb products for their time and have a significant following.

@razgriz380 2 месяца назад

@@Turnipstalk Ok, we can agree on something. The Goldstar was indeed a race bred machine adapted to the road and as such suffered from some issues associated with that focus. However, that isn't much different from say an R1, or even more race bred R7 back in the day. When you buy a product like that you should really expect some teething issues, esp back in the 50/60s when machines were temperamental at best anyway. I don't think it's entirely fair to judge by today's standards. They were great for their time if you accepted their shortfalls and they continue to have a substantial following for this beauty and performance.

@thomastraddles1204 2 месяца назад

You'll constantly be told its not real Goldie, just another computer designed fart box desperate to be something because its really nothing at all. And that's true.

@johnnyhall7065 Месяц назад

Neither was the B50 SS! FFS give the machine a chance.