I love my 1200. 55000 kms in 3 years, she takes me everywhere and still after all this time she puts a smile on my face, in the city and in the twisties. I call her my forever bike, one I will never sell.
I've got the dart classic screen, and with ear plugs I can comfortably sit at 85 MPH with no issues, geared up to 17t on the front so it's much less buzzy. Get around 55mpg
I am buying my son a Speed 400. Looks great, has a bit of that Triumph mystique, and (short of any major crash damage) I anticipate it will bring a resell amount much closer to the purchase price than other options when he moves up. But...and this is the critical piece...another young rider enters motorcycling on a Triumph. Damn genius of Triumph to get such a well put together bike out there for $ that makes it comparable to used starter bikes and gets young people riding the brand. If HD had done that, they might still be relevant in a few years.
My dad 84 years of age would Love the 400. He loves the way my 1200 sounds and looks but feels the brutal way its engine works and its weight to much. I know he is tempted. And for the money it is So enticing. I’m actually thinking of buying the Scrambler 400X as a nimble bike around town. No I’m not selling my 1200. Never!
Please tell your son to use all the necessary equipment while riding. Mine made an accident and he survived due to good quality shoei helmet and thanks to wearing other equipment.
I bought the bonneville T120 with 105 Nm @ 3500 rpm. It is perfect for me because it’s more comfortable than the Speed and sounds better as well. I upgraded front and rear shocks with Ohlins as well ❤. And put handlebar risers. I will never sell it.
Actually I got 1200 three weeks ago, thanks also to your videos. Found demo model, much better priced compared to “brand new”. Love it! Even in still cold conditions. Cheers.
I'm seriously considering a second bike. I have my Indian Chieftain which is great for the longer rides, but a bit heavy sometimes in town. In my opinion, the 400 would be a great addition. I just have to go out test ride one. :)
Picking up my 400x today. This was a passion buy. I just love the way it looks. I don't ride aggressively and most of my pleasure riding takes place in Appalachia on single lane mountain roads of varying conditions. The 400x seems like it's going to be a good fit for my intended purpose. Time will tell.
I'm long past my touring days and also up in the years where my main desire is to take some nice leisurely rides on a warm summer morning on some 2 lane roads. So it's the Speed 400 for me. I don't want "brutal" and I certainly don't want "heavy". My first "real" motorcycle was a Honda CB77 Super Hawk. Between then and now I've owned big , fast machines with high horsepower and viscious acceleration. They were fun, but I can't say that I got the most pleasure in riding by pulling wheelies or doing a 10 second quarter mile. My most pleasurable memories were those of riding that Honda. Maybe its just rose colored glasses or the innocence of youth, but there's just something that attracts me to a small, agile, fun to ride machine.
I brought a new 77 Super Hawk it was awesome and so reliable. I lived on the hills and because I new every corner it took a very good rider to pass me. My front tyre became wedge shaped so much so I cut a sheep in half at 60 miles and hour. No damage to me but the bike ended up with bent forks.....and the smell was intense. I am 72 now and looking to buy a T120 Bonneville
I also own a 1200 speed twin and you’re right about the power delivery and feel. I also own a classic 650 bonneville and 750 Norton, each one was the rocket ship in its day. I think there is nothing better than riding a twin for the sound and torque.
I'm in Brazil and I own a 1200 (2023) before that I owned a 765 RS (2018) and like you I wouldn't trade my 1200 for anything. Excellent bike, especially on mountain roads with lots of curves. Interestingly, in Brazil the Speed 1200 costs approximately 5% less than the 765 RS
Nice comparison test, for me I'd buy the Moto Guzzi (yes I know you were looking at 3 Triumphs) It's cheaper, more characterful, shaft drive and oozes Italian Charm. Ok the 900 then.
You can see the wheels of my ktm 1290 super adventure S in the beginning of the video. I saw you there in the shop and I thought that it was you with camera in the chest mount, but I wasn't sure. It would have been nice to chat a little with you. I like your videos a lot. I went there with a friend and I loved the shop and I tested the tiger 900 and 1200 and the two small 400. Loved them all with their very different purposes. But we'll chat a little next time.
Had a Thruxton R and sold it, which really tugged at my heartstrings. Now waiting on delivery of my 400X. Total change, go figure, but had an absolute blast test riding the 400X and bought it immediately after.
I'm on a 2024 Street Triple R and I absolutely love it! I do keep saying though that my next bike might be the Speed Twin 1200 - it's just a cool looking bike with a goodly acceptable amount of performance (at least as I perceive it).
Bike size depends largely how one uses it. If I'm gonna ride 500 miles a day cruising 70-90mph and/or hitting inclement weather, my Super Tenere is obvious choice. Traction, tech, power, comfort, protection is all needed. For cheap commute around city, beating traffic, touring occasionally up to 300-400 miles a day, hauling on hitch carrier of truck for vacation, cb500x is best fit and very fun bike. For slow speed, short distances 200-400cc is sufficiant and more fun than heavier bikes. There is also issue of afforability. I would say most people ride what they can afford.
I rode all three yesterday on demo and commented elsewhere on the 1200 already, so here I'll say that the 400 was surprisingly fun. First gear is mostly useless but if you keep around town and start in 2nd gear (unless you're on a hill maybe), it's great. Especially for beginners or for those that just like small bikes. The 900 felt meh but I already have a Speedmaster so maybe familiar is more apt.
I'm stuck on picking between the 900 and 1200.. There's something in the 900 that speaks to my soul, I also love the modern retro speedometer A LOT, but I am afraid I'll want more power..
Love to see the same rundown on the Scramblers! LOVE my street scrambler… but now there’s the 1200X. 🤔 Btw, love hearing “pejorative” used as vernacular 👍👍
What a great idea! Triumph Algarve have the 400X in as a demo bike at the moment, but none of the other scramblers, unfortunately. Maybe in a few weeks?
I bought a Speed Twin 1200 a year ago. It's my first bike. I practiced on a SV650 and an Aprilia Pegaso. I test rode a Speed Twin shortly after i got my licence and bought it. It's got more of everything that i will be able to use, and any other bike i have tested since has been something of a disappointment. I love my bike.
Yeah, i starten practicing in april 2022. Got my license in september and bought the bike as a Christmas gift for myself. The main reason I bought the 1200 and not the 900 was mainly the seat height, the 6th gear and the amazing torque. Still remember the first time I opened up the throttle and went above 3500 rpm. 😁
Very fine comparison! I would take the 400 scrambler. It is verly light, you can easyly go on gravel roads and it is much cheaper... the only disadvantage is driving on a Highway... so you have to turn off your brain and ride the 120 as long as it takes
Thank you. Yes, if you can 'switch off' when you're on the motorway, then the 400 is fine. The Speed is a nicer ride than the Scrambler, though, imo :)
I think it's unfair to label the new 400s as not proper triumphs. I have the scrambler and its stands up very well in style and refinement to my previous triumph. It's a great bike for beginners and seasoned riders. Especially if one's ego isn't tied to the size of their engine.
Your 1200 looks fantastic in black!! Have u thought about blacking out the fenders? I saw one the other day like that, with Termi slip ons, and it looked great!
Thanks. It's actually BMW carbon black (custom paint job), very dark blue. I'm looking into changing the exhaust now that I know the 900 sounds better!
@@RocketMan_Moto I have Cone Engineering mufflers with a cat delete. Sounds fantastic without being too loud. Has some nice crackles on deceleration too!
I ride the 1200. It does everything a smaller less powerful bike will do. If you like bimbling around the back roads it's a great relaxing ride. If occasionally you like to release the beast in yourself and the bike, WOW!!! what exciting jaw dropping performance that would be lacking in both the 400 and 900. So for me another long term owner of the Speed Twin 1200, it has to be the 1200, assuming your pockets can afford it.
I'm about to buy the 400. Just retired and want a lighter bike, cheaper to run (gas prices where I live are getting silly ) and I'm not a speed freak. I'm luckier than most in that I live in the twisties and get to ride them every day, the 400 is perfect for me, although the scrambler is a better fit, I've gone for the better cornering of the Speed.
I have owned the 900 from new, 4 years now. It's a great all-around bike. I also owned a T120 for 2 years before that. The T120 is at 4000 revs at 80. And street twin 5000. Neither are motorway bikes, but at high speed, the T120 is the more relaxed and comfortable. The street twin has a single clock, but I prefer this as the numbers are larger and easier to read. All these bikes you show are modern style with very little difference between all of them. If you're after a proper classic style retro with great looks and reasonable power, there is only one choice triumph to go for. And that is the T100, in my opinion, obviously, which you didn't even give a mention ? 😊
I ride a 900 which I enjoy. I never rode the 1200 or the 400. I have no interest in either. I'm happy with it and being the type of person that when happy with what I have , I'm good. Yes the shocks are terrible and I need a reasonably priced aftermarket. Ohlin's just seem to expensive for my type of riding which is 98% chill. I hear rumors of 660 tiger sport ADV that could keep my 900 company in the garage if it happens
Just considering this in a 2021 euro 4 version know you’ve sold yours will ride it over summer before deciding what’s needed before changing anything but seems like rear shocks would be top of list
Loved that. Thanks. As a recent convert to Triumph I last year bought a new (so 2023) Speedmaster Chrome. I'm my mid 70s and have dodgy knees and short legs (I've always had short legs - that's not an age thing 🙃) so its relaxed upright slightly feet-forward low seat riding position is just right for me. And it has BAGS of torque. I love it (its only downsides for me are its weight to push around in the garage and its lack of a centre stand). Have you ridden one? If so, as (I presume) a younger man, how do you rate it compared to your 1200? Vince
Me encanta la subjetividad de tus pruebas. Es lo que se echa de menos en muchos de los vídeos de motos que veo. Al margen de los datos, que son importantes, lo que más interesa son las sensaciones y feeling al llevarlas. “Do you really want to ride a compromise ?” 😂 me encantan esos toques de opinión.
Thank you for this video. I have be debating between the 400 and the 900. My wife and I have rode about 350,000 miles on motorcycles, but due to her poor health she may never ride again, time will tell. She has battled cancer egith times, had 12 surgeries, maxed out on chemo, radiation and cyber knife treatments. She is currently on immunotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. Four uears ago they did a total hip replacement that didn't go well. She hasn't walked without a walker since. She has fallen about twently times in the last four years and with each fall there is a new injury. Her lastest was five broken ribs and another broken vertebra. She now has three broken vertebras. So, to the bikes. I thought I wanted the 900 because it is all I need if she can ride with me again. I don't need the 1200, I'm just too old for all the power. I just want to ride, not race. So this brings me to the 400. If my wife can no longer ride with me, maybe the little 400 will be enough. I just want someting to ride once in a while. I've been riding since 1964 and it is hard to give it up after all these years. So, I think I will go for a red Speed 400 and hope I will be happy with it. If my wife does get stronger then I will go for the 900. Thanks again for this video. RIde safely and enjoy every journey.
Thank you for your comment, Gene. Sorry to hear about your wife's health problems, maybe a new motorcycle would cheer her up a bit? :) The 900 and 1200 are very similar, but the 400 is completely different: relatively tall seat height, very light and easy to ride and 'enough' power for most situations. I would encourage you to ride the 400 and 900 back to back, if you can. There's not a clear-cut winner really, they are just different. Good luck and best wishes to your wife :)
@@RocketMan_Moto When I can I want to go to my nearest Triumph dealer and test drive both. I know the 900 is a little roomier and would be more comfortable for both of us. But if she never rides a gain I think I will be happy witht the 400. Thank you for the well wishes for my wife. She lives in a recliner 24/7 these days and I am begining to lose faith that she will ever get better. Four years ago she started having seizures due to one of the places of cancer in her brain, she had six places orignally but Cyber knife took carwe of five of them. We went to HD trikes after that thinking if she had a seizure on a two wheeled bike it might cause an accident injuring both of us and possibly others. On a trike I think I could pull over and take care of her without an accident. But the Harley Trikes ride like a dump truck and she couldn t stand the jarring ride so we sold our last trike. Then she wanted a Polaris Slingshot, but after this last fall she can no longer get in or out of the Slingshot so it is for sale now. I am sort of waiting to sell the Slingshot before I buy my Triumph, but I feel I am missing some great weather and some great rides.
The 400 is a little on the small side for 2 people, the 900 is, as you say, the roomier of the two, as well as being easier to get on and off thanks to a much lower seat height. I hope you find the right bike for the both of you :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Thank you Rocket Man. I think I will go with the 900. Not only is it roomier, it has a GREAT exhuat note. I think I will be happier with the 900 even if it costs twice as much.
Great idea for a video, and well presented. Re: 900, given that most bikes park up on side stand (which are always on left), why put the single disc on that side also, as you tend to look more from rightside. Maybe it's just me. 🤔
per me proporzionalmente al piacere di guida/costo, la migliore è indubbiamente la 400 Speed, peccato solo per l'altezza della sella, io l'avrei preferità da 765 mm come la 900 speed , essendo io alto circa 168 cm e mi piace toccare bene terra con entrambi i piedi. Chissà se ci sta una sella più bassa
I've tried the 900 and 1200. The 400 is too underpowered for my needs, but among the 3 i would take the 900. The 1200 felt too unrefined, too much vibration, and the riding position is uncomfortable for me. The 900 on the other hand, feels like a japanese bike, in a positive way. After selling my big adventure bike, i was in a market for a classic looking one, and i ended up buying the Z900RS. I would've bought the Speed900 if it had the double front disc brake.
I’d choose the 1200 because of the higher seat height. I got a 3ft inseam so many bikes are too low for me. Are you by any chance a member of ASB ? I am considering this, will get the keys to my house in the Portimao region in September.
Love the look off the 1200. Fantastic looking bike, and i want one. And i also love your BMW colour carbon black. 😍 I have a Rocket 3gt and want a daily also, så im looking into the ST 1200. But im 187cm long and wonder if that is to cramped for a 62 year old guy ? 🤣🤣
The ST 1200 is a bit cramped - they all are - but I forgive its shortcomings because of that engine. I actually find it more exhilarating than the magnificent Rocket. I'm 187cm too :)
Looking at the 3 bikes side by side the one thing that at once catches your eye is those bright yellow fork legs on the 400, and it becomes painfully obvious how awful they look, like cheap bling straight out of the Pimp Your Ride catalogue. They are a completely foreign object in this line of bikes.
@@RocketMan_Moto Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I respect that, and I guess I may be in the minority, golden fork legs are everywhere these days. I just hate gold anodized parts on motorcycles, fork legs, rims, even handlebars like on the new BMW R1300GS (imagine having to look at those all day!) But I think those fork legs on the 400 are the brightest I have ever seen and therefore the worst.
So you don't have to wear gloves on a 400cc bike? Lol. Doesn't look like the Speed 1200 is for sale in the USA. Closest thing might be the Thruxton RS?
@@RocketMan_Moto LOL of course, of course. Triumph's marketing department is 100% modern. 😅 I love them fork boots, tho...my bike didn't have 'em so I ADDED IT!
comparing these bikes as though they have anything in common is kind of dumb! OK - maybe the 400 is similar to the Street Twin ... I mean whatever they are calling the 900, but the 900 is an absolutely completely different bike than the Speed Twin ... I mean the Speed Twin 1200. It is a SHAME that Triumph renamed the Street Twin to Speed Twin 900. It cheapens the real Speed Twin ... the 1200. They are completely different bikes. The Street Twin is a chill cruiser, while the Speed Twin is a classic looking sport bike with a better seating position than the Thurxton. So lame they renamed the Street Twin to Speed Twin 900!
@@RocketMan_Moto It's not your fault Triumph is confusing people by giving dissimilar bikes the same category name. I love your other videos. Thanks for making them!
That tingle is why we ride. So the 1200 for me, thank you very much. In all honesty, all other reasons to buy a particular bike are just lame. Of course, with a reality check the price matters a lot but set a budget and buy used and you can get a bike that gives you that tingle. And enjoy riding, which is the only reasonable reason to get a bike in the first place. All those other reasons can better be handled with a car.
In these days of global warming, the speed 400 is by far the best option, it has all the power someone needs to get around without driving around like a madman, polluting much less. To be honest, I was thinking about getting the classic 350, but I chose the triumph speed 400 due to my trust in the brand.
It's a good bike for them, yes, but not exclusively. It would make a great second bike for more experienced riders. I'd buy one if I had the need for one :)
This is kind of the problem with a lot of motorcycle reviewers…everything is “dated” or “old” if it doesn’t have usd forks or a complete electronics package. An EMP would render your bike completely useless with all the electronics. I want to be in control not the computers. If I wanted that I would get a horrible electric car that lasts only a couple years and becomes useless just like the powers that be want.
I went for the 900 - I love the sound, and the low seat height was a winner for me. I do agree with you, the single clock is a great visual disappointment, and the shocks need an upgrade. Other than that, I prefer the old school looks, and riding on back roads is what it's for.
The Fox RSU is lovely in my opinion, especially if you have a passenger. Also Pirelli Demons on it are lovely. Becomes a different machine - way more agile and comfy than the price would indicate. I have 16K miles on my 2022.
I'm like you a 1200 Speed Twin owner. It's two bikes in one. You can trundle around using the low down torque and be as smooth as butter. Open it up and let the revs climb and it becomes a different beast. Many practical faults like inadequate mudguards but these are curable with aftermarket additions. The point is this is a bike that make you smile when you wheel it out of the garage and just look, makes you smile at the noise when you start it, and makes you smile on every ride. Not cheap, but a machine that makes me smile, priceless.
Absolutely agree. Its hopelessly impractical compared to my Transalp, for example (cramped, no wind protection, luggage ruins the looks, etc), but I love it :)
I have two RE 350's and an Interceptor, i agree with what he said and Inty feels more planted compare to 350's, i never owned triumph Bonneville but planning to.
@@ramirof1986 Are you taking about T120 or Interceptor? I'm surprised with how good parallel twin of Interceptor is that I'm constantly thinking about T120 as it's parallel twin as well with lot more power, if I'll ever upgrade i guess I'll get T120 for now I'm looking for couple of test drives. But bike looks gorgeous.
ST 900 is the Goldilocks bike for me. Taking my wife on pillion is a consideration. I had a ST1200 but traded that for a BMW R1250RT with a view to comfortable touring. Now I’ve downsized to the ST900 for more local riding. I have a top box I occasionally put on the 900, which gives the wife a feeling of security, as well as a bit of practicality. Agree though, the ST1200 is a beautiful bike and the Speed400 is probably good for riding solo locally. But Goldilocks, the compromiser (in their seventies) prefers the ST900. Thanks for the interesting comparison. 😊
Great presentation, thank you. The 400 looks best of all three and I expect Triumph to update the other two designwise in the shorter future. Also the rear suspension with these two shocks should be replaced by a more contemporary linked single shock suspension. I testrode the 1200 two years ago when I was in the market for a classic naked bike and although the engine really pleased me I finally went for my Kawa Z900RS and didn't regret that decision.
Nah!..the 1200 and 900 are timeless Classics, I love the looks with the twin shocks and everything, If one wishes a more modern bike there is the street triple or Trident. IMO the Classic ones are a bit more practical, for example with my street Twin 900 I also use it in some mild off roading with 50/50 dualsport Tires, the 18inch front wheel although it can be a pain to find front tires for it, it can handle a bit of the slightly larger bumps or road imperfections. Handles well on road, its comfy, low seat height and you can also tour on it, the 900 has more than enough power and its very smooth. Not the cup for everyone but it can do a bit of everything which is good. The 400's are nice but honestly I wished they where more similar to the classics, to me its like they are half speed 900 on the front and half trident from the seat backwards. Not a bad thing entirely but looks for looks the classic ones are more better looking, or at least for me. Now what I wish is that they also make 125cc models, how about a modern Triumph Tiger Cub?😅
I'm buying a Speed 400. Many, many moons ago I rode the Yamaha RD350 and then the Yamaha 650 Special. I have only regularly riden a 150 CC bike since then. As I'm getting older, I wanted to own a bigger CC thumper and this Triumph came out at the right time and fits me perfectly for my size, use and wants. I hope to receive delivery this month here in Southeast Asia. Thanks for the video.
You won't be disappointed, it's a great 'little' bike. I would buy one, if I had a need for a 400. Nobody NEEDS the 9 or the 12, but we just can't resist. I love my 1200, but if they brought out a 1400, I would have to have it, lol :)
I'd go for a Sunday roast and get the T120. Plenty of grunt, good acceleration 70-95, comfier seat and pillion and less twitchy. Or the new R12nineT with heated grips and a quickshifter for a few more bob - bratwurst?
I owned a 900 and put 10k miles on it. It was such a lovely and fun motorcycle. I eventually sold it for the reasons you mentioned, but especially because it felt like it was lacking a 6th gear to cruise comfortably at highway speed (around 80mph where I live). I eventually upgraded to a Thruxton 1200 and I’m again very impressed with what Triumph have done. Amazing bikes all around.
The 1200 is a great bike which you can't go wrong with and has a 6th gear. For the 900 riders though, the trick with the 900 5 gears and searching for a 6th (which the more expensive 1200 has) is don't change up early! The engines deliver a lot of torque but you can rev them happily higher than most people realise. The lazy torque delivery is great but don't be scared of revving it higher! they are designed for it, so don't worry, work it more. I can change up at over 80mph from 4th to 5th on mine, which is an air cooled 865cc 2013 T100 Bonneville. This bike delivers power in a more linear manner and peak power and torque occur higher in the rev range, but I suspect the same trick could be played on the more modern 900! When you get used to higher revs and change up at 80mph say, then you won't be expecting an extra 6th gear. I think this can sometimes be overlooked, you have engine balancer shafts in the engine to prevent higher revs from being uncomfortable and too vibratory, why not make use of them!
I bought a Speed 400 for those "Gee, what a nice day for a short ride" days when I really didn't want to drag out my Tiger Explorer. Absolutely NO regrets. Riding since 1961.
The 900 is a enough bike for anyone if they're being honest, at least insofar as a 'do it all' bike if one could only afford a single motorcycle; the 1200 is for someone who wants a retro that offers some (some) level of comparable performance to a 'proper' sport bike. The 400 is a well-built 'my first bike' that is also a brilliant commuter. I have a 2020 Speed Twin 1200 that I basically made into a superior Thruxton - I wanted a retro version of my supernaked sports bike for casual riding around the mountains and taking to classic bike meetups, and it fit the ticket in a way that my Speed Triple 1200 RS can't (namely in looks, hah!). Personally, I actually like the gaitered forks and true retro looks of the 900 and older 1200 models - I really dislike the USD forks (that aren't even that good nor are they adjustable) on the '22 and later Speed 1200s, but that's purely for aesthetic reasons. A retro that tries to look somewhat modern just strikes me as... out of synch, especially as a retro-setup twin is just never going to handle like a proper sport bike anyway. All in all, I find I agree with most of your take on the three! I've ridden the 400, my partner owns the 900 (which I have ridden plenty), and of course I own the 1200. Cheers.
Agree totally. Nobody NEEDS the 1200, or even the 900. I’d be quite happy with the 400… if I didn’t know the other 2 existed. Just as I’m perfectly satisfied with my 1200… but if Triumph bring out a turbocharged version…😬
@@RocketMan_Moto That would be the Rocket III, but I agree with what I perceive to be your impression - it's too bloody heavy and lacks for agility. I was able to test ride one once, and it was thrilling, but wholly impractical - almost as impractical as a hardcore race rep supersport.
Great video! I thought I would pick the 400... but damn it, once you put it that way - I now want a 1200 too! I am all into small bikes now, but 1200 makes me want to make an exception.
I do like the gator look, also they do perform a function. I'd also like a 400, but as I already have a scooter and a suzuki gsx 8s it's not offering anything functionally. I think Triumph nailed it with the 400, if I had one bike, I could make the 400 work.
Nicely presented. Well, I'm glad I watched this video after eating my lunch, even though licking the screen is not really my thing. So the 900 has the knees by the ears (the lowest seat height...too low for my body) and the 1200 comes with an organ donor card. I wouldn't mind the 1200 if the weight would be lower. But as it is, I'd buy the 400. The 50-something kg weight penalty is quite significant to me. Yes, I'd get to our provincial road speed limit of 80 km/h 3 or 4 seconds faster, but then the low speed handling and parking are so much easier with 170 kg.
Yey again another well informed video & once again I agree with you on not just your own bike but in general the 1200 but how long have we both been saying about an upgrade or update how ever you want to call it but lets be honest when was the last time they updated the 1200 all they seem to do is bring out special editions or limited edition with just a paint job that's seriously not worth the extra money especially when they can't even match the tank colour with the mudguards front and rear & let alone so new tech or clocks & so here's another new year with no updates for the 1200 soo disappointing yet again from triumph!!🤔🤷🏼♂️ But enough about moaning & great video as usual fine sir!!👌🏻👍🏻😎
@RocketMan_Moto Exactly just a Tank paint up & then call it or them special editions or limited editions bloody joke but what do we know!! 🤔 🤷🏼♂️ All i know is that I still won't buy one until they seriously update it how ever long that will be!!🤔🤷🏼♂️😬
I bought a Trident 660 for my wife after I watched your videos. A month ago I bought a Speed Twin 1200 for myself after I watched your videos. You mention "brutal" and I assume you refer to torque... I however also ride a well tuned Gen.3 KTM Super Duke R... and I wonder if the Speed Twin owners have ever swung a leg over a Super Duke R.... If ever you can, go try one - It is sensational in every aspect!!
Miss my speed twin ! I had the first model with the gatted forks ! Your right though that motor is bloody fantastic, gotta say though I was in triumph Birmingham today and there are loads of 400's going out today because of the 1st March new reg they told me they can't get enough of them , very impressive for the money ❤
I live in Vilamoura and have been down every road in the video, so I right enjoyed that. Hopefully ill be in to see you soon, investment pending. I fancy the 900, your on the 125..😎🔆
that whole review had me smiling ,,,, well done , the bit when you admitted the 900 sounded better than yours made me laugh , you don't often show much emotion - but that was brilliant ;;; i am also surprised that the 900 is just as useful as the 12 , it seems that it is a fair chunk of money to buy better looks and more go ;;;
The 400 is the kind of bike I’d have if I was a kid again or if I had a huge stonker and wanted a second bike. Lucky for me (and my pocket book) I have a 700-do-it-all that does me very well. 400 - too small to be my only bike 900 - not my cup of tea really 1200 - too big for me I’m afraid
I can't comment on the 400 or 1200 not having ridden either but I was loaned a Speed 900 while waiting for delivery of my Street Triple RS, I found it really dissapointing , gutless and too heavy for a 900 twin.
@@RocketMan_Moto I did ride the original Speed twin which was a rocketship, a real torque monster, my only minor disappointment was the "vague" rear suspension, as I said I haven't been lucky enough to ride the later Speed twin but if it's better than the original it's obviously something special, I found it hard to believe that the Speed 900 has the same lineage as the 1200 as the 1200 is twice the bike in every way.
The rear shocks on the 2nd generation ST 1200 offer no improvement, I’m afraid, which is why I immediately swapped mine for some YSS and then for some Ohlins. But yes, a real torque monster😊
I love my Thruxton RS. Had a Speed Twin 900 for 2 years and I was constantly yearning for more. So happy I bought the Thruxton (1200) and like this video would encourage others to do the same.
Hi All, I just wanted to say that for the 900 peeps, I have an 865cc air cooled EFI T100 2013 and my wife and I have just ridden down to the South of France on a 2,137miles round trip with only a basic luggage rack the bike came with, a genuine triumph bib front screen to keep the wind off that the bike again fortunately came with. We travelled light using Oxford Heritage wax cotton throw over panniers and an Oxfor Heritage top bag (waterproof inners), all in black to match the black coloured bike. This luggage had room for 3-5 changes of clothes, some tools, spare bulbs and an electric tyre inflator to keep the rear tyre at 41psi and a tin of chain lube. I only lubed the chain once and filled the rear tyre with air once in the entire trip, leaving my wife to question the tools, Haynes Manual and spare parts😂😂! We also got inexpensive TEC side bars to prevent the luggage from touching the shocks or back wheel. I have changed to Alf Hagon road shocks for bum comfort and put in a Booster plug to keep the fuel mixture from being too lean, so no stalling or over-revving at pullaway and accelerates better. That setup is solid. My wife prefers the slower speed of the T100 Bonneville, which still cruises happily at 80mph and the good news is they can certainly be toured! We are in our 60's and we noticed lots of 2 up 900 new and old Bonnevilles at the Distinguished Gentleman's ride in Birmingham UK this year.
The 900 is a real bargain on the used market. Lot's of low mileage ones at affordable prices. Then you can use the rest of your money on accessories and upgrades 😀And it does everything so good, and feels like a bigger bike.
Great review! I pre ordered a Speed 400, way back in September. Why? I'm 68 and not ridden a bike for 35 years- until I had a couple of refresher lessons in the Autumn. That showed me, I needed more practice, so bought a cheap Mutt 125. Good move. The 1200 has so much appeal but, my age and the real world- eg my driveway has a noticeable slope making bike handling difficult- means I am happy to take the 400. Should arrive soon!
Owned a 2020 Street Twin 900 for a couple years. Does surprise some of my sports bike friends how well it can handle if you try! (Have upgraded front springs and changed tyres). Saying that the new 1200 has to handle better with the 17” tyre and better suspension/brakes. One nice thing about the 900 is peak torque being lower in the rev range it’s right on tap riding legal speeds. Also appreciate it’ll get to 90mph very quickly but not much more so limits insane speeds. I don’t think it deserves the “Speed” title, given it’s probably slower than most full power 650’s. The torque does make up for the lack to a degree, very easy bike to ride and did anyone mention the sound? Mine had the x-pipe decat and ohh ohh ohhh. I ride with bigger bikes and it only lacks on the straights if they go tonne up which realistically they shouldn’t be doing. Am considering going to the 1200 but not convinced yet
Speed Twin 900 Review I just got a Speed Twin 900 as my 1st motorcycles 🏍️. It is absolutely awesome, I am 45 years old, 5ft 7inches. This motorcycle has Great 👍🏽 Ergonomics to sit and drive High Torque which makes it FUN to drive Easy to handle Superb Sound better than the 1200 Best Looking I have driven the 1200 and the engine heat 🔥 hitting your legs 🦵 is a DEAL BREAKER, this is diff from T120 it’s not about 1200cc the Speed Twin 1200 engine is different and it produces way too much heat to hit your legs and destroy 😢 the experience
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