Agreed. All the high horsepower naked bikes have the ugliest fronts now. I was considering going from a full super bike to a naked one since I'm not really going to the track, but 🤮 The every level bikes have a nice, simple front that looks great.
Here in Japan The Trident is within $200 (U.S.D.) of the street triple s. Sorry to anyone who wants it, brought the last Street Tiple S in 🇯🇵 home with me last night. (Have a video on my channel comparing it)
Superb comparison- pros and cons. Thank you! I would rather wait a bit, collect the extra money and pickup the Street Triple. Imagine spending the money on the Trident and six months down the line looking at every ST and feeling I should have bought the ST. A good pre owned 765 could also be better proposition to the Trident. As always, each to his/her own. Cheers
Nice review. One thing that I never see mentioned in reviews of bikes that are aimed at the new rider segment is that these bikes are also wonderful for older riders who are climbing down from the heights of the power/specs curve and just want to have fun on a bike, and who know how motorcycles should perform and how they should make YOU feel. At 67 years old, I'm not going to do any track days, and I don't necessarily have the coins for top-spec components in every department. I just want a well-engineered bike that is capable on the road and that doesn't pretend to be a race replica. A bike like the Trident really pushes my buttons - it has styling that echoes the classic bikes of yesteryear (I used to ride a 1973 Bonneville, and currently have a 2010 Moto Guzzi V7) but in a modern package with a sporty motor, more than decent suspension, great tires, and a well-balanced tech package that doesn't look like you're riding around with your television strapped to the triple tree. I can't wait to test ride one and see if I like it as much as I think I will!
I've a 2020 Street Triple R but was really impressed by the Trident, around town the Trident's the better bike and just as fast 0 to 60 mph, IMO it depends what you want the bike for, if you mostly do round town/commuting the Trident is perfect but if you want to push your bike to its potential the Triple R has that top end rush which is addictive.
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple . The trident is great too. Cuz : Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high , Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4... I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ).
@@raywite6665 You're absolutely right about the street triple being a second faster 0 to 60mph, what I should've said was the Trident feels just as fast (0 to 60) because of the way it revs out so quickly.
Still, I cannot understand why did Triumph not use the 765 cc engine, tuned down for more torgue, in the Trident. It would have been a a great bike, even for more experienced riders who simply don't like high-revving engines and also ride with a passenger often.
Thanks for the review. Personal choice, but just sold a Street Triple S that was a few years old, had the 765cc engine and it was a brilliant bike to start with. Easy to ride if you keep the revs low, then mental mode with higher revs. If I had to choose between these, I would go with a low mileage 1-2 year old Street Triple - cheaper than the Trident and enough to keep you interested for more years as your skills grow.
Hi , I'm getting a very low mileage (about 7000 km ) street triple s 2017 , for a decent price , Im kinda a beginner myself with not much experience, have ridden the street 750 for about a year, I really like the striple but just confused if it'd be too much power, I don't push the bike as much as the roads in my country don't allow that to happen anyways , I can only push a bit on highways
I have been playing 'ride 4' for like a month now and i have ridden almost every bike in it .........and hand on heart street triple rs is the only bike in the whole game so good that m tempted to buy one in real life. Its that good
Just got a trident…will be moving up to the Striple if I’m feeling like I want something more in a year or two. Thanks for the videos, helped me find out about the trident originally a year ago
As a Street Triple R owner I like the Trident styling and for the price is definitely a superb machine. I don't ride much in towns or cities so the Street Triple suits me better.
Street triple's expensive and better in performance. I don't know if y'all like it, but that headlight design is a complete turn off, looks just too bad. Fomme I prefer trident 660, compact and attractive 😍
Have had the Trident for almost a year now. Great bike for good fun. Here in India, anything over 120 kmph is too risky n therefore, I guess Trident makes more sense. Yet, without a doubt Street Triple looks definitely better finished. One more thing, Trident got much more smoother after the first service.
I put a deposit on the Street Triple RS around the time you did the first test of the 🔱 and decided after watching to change the deposit to the trident. The RS is the better bike but unless you are a track day regular or live somewhere with minimal law enforcement you are never going to get full use of it in the UK. The trident is just as good for 90 % of the riding I do and still capable of being pushed past my meagre riding abilities I’m sure. A great little bike that seems to split opinions looks wise.
That Pause at 9:53 says it all to me. The Street Triple has to be the better all round bike. I wouldn't be disappointed with a Trident, its a great looking and sounding machine, but I think I would soon be longing for a Street Triple on those B Road rides.
Great explaination!👍🏼👍🏼 Full of practical information..One of the best motovlogger in youtube .. keep the good work brother..thank you..🙏 -from Malaysia
Wish Triumph would produce a larger capacity Trident [1050 motor for example]. Not everybody wants a hyper-naked so a comfy [but still quite sporty] bigger Trident makes perfect sense to me. Power would be around 125 to 135 hp mark with loads of bottom end and mid range grunt. Maybe one day.
Glad your sound recorded this time! I'd get a trident every time. I hate revving bikes and, after borrowing my mates street triple, you do have to rev it!
The street triple R makes more torque across the entire rev range compared to the Trident! You don’t need to rev it to have superior performance to the Trident.
Be cool to do Trident Vs new Mt07 video next. Neevesy really enjoyed the mt07 in his recent video and said it's probably the more fun bike overall (with the Trident being the better built).
@@motobob i second that, the mt07 is a good competitor, although maybe not as good value overall but depends on the riding experience as i think the mt07 will feel the more fun bike. Looking forward to this comparison now!
Good review , as always :-D As I suspected, and you seem to confirm, the Striple S is likely to be dropped. Once the Trident came out, well I just couldn't see Triumph selling many Striple 660 S's at just over £8K. I don't think they sold that many before the Trident, because they were quite an expensive A2 friendly bike to buy and insure. Non A2 riders on a budget would get a Striple R. Fuel about 0.73 Kg per litre. Oil possibly a bit more per litre. Water 1Kg / litre. I reckon the fluids on a Striple will be about 18 Kg. So dry weight plus about 18Kg = wet weight. So around 185 Kg ish for Striples.
i really like the way the Trident looks, the bug eye headlights on the Street Triple are not right at all. BUT, i would like something in the 100 HP range...so like a Trident RS where peak Torque and HP come on as low in the RMP range as possible hitting like 100 HP, add on a step up in shocks, and like the flat black paint with a blood red/pearl frame...that is the ticket right there. Sign me up.
Triumph needs to make a 900cc Trident, tune the engine for midrange and give it too spec suspension and brakes and handling, make it bigger so normal people don’t look like they are riding a children’s bike. Keep the same display, only make it a bit bigger so easily read by older riders, make the bike top quality. So really a bike for older riders in their forties/fifties, a power bike that can be used every day and costs max £15.000 a bit like the Honda cb 1000r neo. I think such a bike would appeal to mature riders that have the cash to spend on a top quality bike.
I had the same dilemma. Beginner rider. Had a test ride on both. And liked both very much. And found it a really tough decision. Went for the Street Triple. The R version. Reasons for this: the Street Triple just felt just a bit more premium… The rear brake pedal is solid aluminium while the one on the Trident felt more…. Rubbery…. And it offered a bit more punch. And give me more to grow into. Price difference not too much. If they give me Trident 660 as loaner bike I will still drive it with a smile on my face. And know many people will be perfectly happy with it. Did not find the extra bucks for the RS worth it for me. I liked the analog/lcd combo on the R more and the other stuff is only more useful on the racetrack…… If only they slap a better TFT on the streety (with the crispness of the Trident) then I would be really tempted but the current version does not cut it for me.
I have a Street Triple 675 and recently loaned a Trident from Triumph whilst I got my 12K service. I must say the bike looks great and Id imagine it would suffice if your just commuting around town and the odd ride in the twisties. I found the engine lacking in the low range, and also towards the high end of the power band. It also felt extremely light and 'toy-like' which i didnt enjoy at all, although the handling was great. Also the sound of the engine/exhaust left a lot to be desired, I suppose we have Euro 5 to thank for that. Having ridden it for a couple of days I was pleased to give it back for my baby. Personal opinion so take it with a pinch of salt but I much prefer bikes before they started putting a ton of electronic rider aides on them... 6/10 for me.
The Trident for me, based on looks alone. I'm a huge Triumph fan, but that front end on the Street Triple is ridculously ugly. Almost looks like a KTM 😅
I'm bike shopping at the moment for my first bike, love the look of the trident from all angles, the street triple looks great too but for me I just really dislike the headlight/dash unit on how it sits on the bike and after watching this review I have taken the triple off my list, now I'm down too the trident and KTM Duke 790 🤔
@@markderby22 I have a Duke 690 it has very good torque but in traffic at low speeds low gears it rattles and jerks like fuck. It’s a single and I do love it however I rode the trident and did my test on that bike both mod1 and mod2, smooth bike lovely to ride for hours. I’m considering getting the street triple as it just sounds incredible and looks beautiful.
Here in the u.s. last years triple R models are on sale 7,999. Makes it pretty easy for me when they are that close in price. Personally you can't go wrong with either!
I believe it is better to get a low milage Street Triple than a Trident if your budget is limited. I used to have one, it is a brilliant middleweight naked bike.
Excellent review. I'm not keen on the looks of both much. I nearly bought the R. With the rationale that I couldn't see the boggle eyed front end while riding. But was put off by the alarming increase in insurance compared to my CB650R. I think it was about £3,000 difference. Still, I'm testing the new MT09 soon, so may have a similar problem (clean licence 3 years' no claims (MT07 stolen by London vermin is the reason for not more).
Great vid! And for anyone shopping these two bikes, as my dad told me. "The best bike in the world is the one in your garage". So if your can, test ride both and decide yourself, ride safe everyone.
I have ordered a Trident, based on being a returning rider (30 years), riding position, less stress on my wrists, and the Tech available (quick shifter, Bluetooth etc). Plus only 1 company would insure me for Trident, unlikely to get any for the Sreet Triple.
By the trident you can’t go to camping at the weekends with the second passenger I think so it is useless but it looks very good, modern retro which i like. I am looking a bike for that purpose and ducati scrambler is very expensive.
1)Street triple wet weight is 185kg 2)Brembo MCs brake levers, brembo master cylinder 3)fully adjustable suspension 4) 121hp(40hp more) 79nm (15nm more than trident) 5)better headlights in terms of visibility 6) better power to weight ratio. So it's worth the extra 3 grand
I mean 147-150 mph top speed for the street triple, Idk about the trident but probably just as good just not as fast, I’d honestly go with a older 675... just saying
Can't say I have ridden a Trident yet, but my fiance has a Street Triple RS, which I find is about 90% of what I as a long time literbike sportsbike nut need and, really, want in a bike. Taking her bike out on a few rides both by myself and with my riding buddies has changed what I am looking for in a sporting bike in a fairly substantial way-I'm currently trying to figure out if I need to sell my R1M and GSXR1000 to get a Speed Triple 1200 RS..... or perhaps even just sell one and get a Street Triple RS. At any rate, I understand where the Trident would be approachable and especially in times of shaky economies I understand that the low price point is real attraction. I can also see where, being based on the Street Triple series, Triumph would have to get basically everything wrong to make it a bike not worth having....... But, the Trident is what I see as a holdover bike-as in holds you over while you learn to ride and decide what kind of bike you're ideally suited for. In that way, it seems like less a deal to me because while the Street Triples are definitely on the sporty side, they are also excellent streetbikes that appeal to a much larger portion of the riding public for resale-the Trident will always be a 'beginner's bike' no matter how good it will be. The Tridents are capable from what I have read and watched, but the Streets are a hell of a lot of bike to grow into. My money as a younger or less experienced rider would still go to the Street Triples. Nothing on them really needs changed from standard, you can burble to work on a cold wednesday morning, take a weekend trip, or ride like a complete twat and not go any slower than most guys on liter sportsbikes down your local popular curvy road. In terms of the Experiences you can have on the Street series, I think there are more to be had and a lot longer period of time, if ever, before you feel like you need more bike. I don't say any of this lightly, I have three 200hp sportbikes sitting 20 feet away from me and I ride them hard enough to make the chassis flex, buck, and weave. Other than in a straight line, the Street Triples are just as fast thru the corners and I don't hurt after I get off of one. The Trident wouldn't be able to take me from where I could start out as a new or low time rider up to the limits of where the Street triple ends.. Which is quite high... I guess the best way to say it is simply to say that while the Trident might be the best bargain in entry level motorcyling, the Street Triples are the best bargain in Motorcycling.
@@drummer12films You won't be disappointed, but definitely get the RS version-the suspension and brakes are worth it. Factory suspension on the S and R aren't bad in the traditional sense and most riders can't articulate what makes the Ohlins shock and BPF forks on the RS "better", but trust me-they really are Better. The difference to you is that the front end isn't vague at corner entry as you pitch it in and approach the apex, it holds a line with more confidence, then tracks beautifully when you pin it coming out of the corner. It comes down to the sophistication of the damping in the initial part of the forward stroke-the front end is more "nailed to the road" rather than oscillating on bumps and pavement imperfection. It's really good shit on a $12k bike, especially if you beat the dealer up a bit. One thing I didn't touch on in my post is that one of the biggest reasons I like my GF's street triple is the tank range. It sounds like something silly to worry about for a sporting bike, and it's not the 50mpg I get tearing around in the country-it's that on my big bikes, all three hit reserve around 110 miles give or take. With her bike, I ride a half an hour, get off the freeway, fill up, do my entire 130 mile loop as hard on the gas as I want, and I have just enough gas to get home. On my liter-bikes, I hit reserve at the half way point and start sweating bullets if my riding buddies want to take a detour to a different route to change things up. We pull in for coffee at that half way point and I'm allways watching that damned fuel light. For weekend trips where you are out in unfamiliar areas, the street is a way better option-it still feels like a literbike in the midrange with it's short gearing, but it sips gas and has an actal gas guage with an estimate for miles to empty. Speaking of gearing, I have ridden it twice more since my original reply to this video with a buddy on his FZ-10 and V4 Tuono..... in a straight line, the Street Triple is a match for acceleration til about 110mph, you don't see that often with riding twisty roads..... and the Street is a lot easier to live with than either of those two. The leg room would be nice but the rest of the bike is so good you don't care. I hope you get one of these bikes, they really are that good.
@@nunyabidness9257 Man you don’t know how much I appreciate your comment. I’ve been agonizing over this for months now. The speed to 110 nailed it for me. Not that i’m only focused on speed, as I love ripping up corners just as much as the next guy, but hearing all your points is everything I needed to hear. Hard to get real world experience on these bikes without it being a track only review. I definitely have “outgrown” the ninja, and just want that sweet sweet triple motor underneath me, and enough power to keep me satisfied down the road. Having the better suspension setup and the extra go fast bits are a cherry on top. Cheers for taking the time to write all this out for a stranger on the internet, I salute you!
I'm just 21 (yes i think that's young), and I've ridden R1,CBR1000RRR-SP, ZH2, Ducati Panigale V4, Daytona 675r, R6, Ninja ZX 10, ninja Zx6, Ninja 300, RE 350,Himalayan,650s, t100, and speed triple, i had owned a R1, but sold it for other reasons and investments, and got a cycle instead of the bike, and now i am looking forward to getting a Trident 660 , or the Triumph Speed triple, cuz even after riding all i have ridden, ( even been to track a few times) is that no matter what, 200hp is not needed , and all these bikes are great, these 200hp r1s , Panigales, e.t.c, are pretty useless from ergonomics, useless low end, in the street what i suggest is the street triple, or the speed triple . Cuz : Such a beautiful sound , the exhaust sound changes as the rev increases , from sophisticated in the low to the roaring in the high , Mechanically (a mechanical engineer here) , and as a bike enthusiast, 3 Cyls are the best when it comes to power delivery, low end torque + top end rush , and due to triumphs T-plane crankshaft (perfect secondary balance) this thing revs very high for a engine that size , and reaches redline quicker than any I4... I've plenty experience, owned an R1 (sold last year and got a cycle), r6, zx 10r, the busa, Zh2, RSV4, panigale, cbr 1000, and z900 , daytona 675, street triple 675RS, RE bikes,and what not , but i find three cyls the best among inline 4s and 2s (Vs are better ). (Except some radicals i4s ). Basically street triple : Agile track ready sport naked bike Trident 660: tourquey (low and mid) best commuter , and everyday use) Speed triple: Torque everywhere, features are top end, very good acceleration, awesome track bike, awesome top speed. I've seen people destroy R1s and ZX 10s using a speed triple in the corners, it's all about the skills
Can’t afford either in India so I’m just watching for kicks. Having said that in a few years I’ll be able to afford one and if I’m spending so much I don’t mind spending that bit more for a Street Triple which just has more and also looks better according to me.
Great comparison. I’m due to ride the Trident in the next few weeks, but have already ridden the ST RS - which was a great bike. The Trident appears to be a good choice for the money if you want something a little more ‘up market’ compared to say, an MT-07 (not that that is a bad bike at all!)
I've had a go of a Striple RS, yet to get a ride on a Trident. I had a 2018 second hand Striple 660 derestricted to 94 BHP. The Striple RS was better, but below 7000 rpm, and road legal speeds the Striple RS wasn't that much better than a Striple S 660 94 BHP bike. So on the performance comparison of the two bikes here, I'm guessing up to 70 MPH there probably isn't much in it. You've tried them both, would you agree ? If that is the case, I guess point 4 for the Trident, is "If you only want to ride at road legal speeds, it's performance is almost as good as the Striple RS and you're less likely to get speeding tickets" :-D
Nice comparison vid. I wouldn’t say the street triple is for the “more experienced” rider, people often use that phrase: “more experienced”, but experience doesn’t equal wanting all that extra stuff. I’ve been riding for God knows how many years and I’m sure I’d be just as happy with the Trident with it’s more rudimentary suspension setup etc; because, for me at least, experience doesn’t mean automatically wanting more tricks on my bike. Cheers 🤙🏻
trident- sit up, good around town, comfortable, cheap, easy to ride, beautiful. street triple- fast, track bike, buzzy, bent over, expensive, ugLEE. Id have a slightly used street triple knowing what it is for, ripping it on bike night. 30mins ripping it to meet. rest ass. 30 minutes ripping it with gang to cafe. rest ass. eat tacos. 30 mins ripping it home. rest ass, neck rub, lower back massage, hand massage.
I've bought the Trident great value for money, although I added Connectivity, heated grips, USB connection, mudguard extender and flyscreen. Put the price up a bit. Soon be adding an upgraded adjustable rear shock and quick shifter too.
The Trident is a standard motorcycle while the speed triple is a naked sport bike. Shouldn't even compare the two as they are made for totally different group of riders. I bought the Yamaha FZ-09 and I get the best of both worlds. Great in the city and an absolute hooligan if you want it to be....
Here in Australia the Trident is only sold in the learner 55 hp version. And in contrast to the UK, they can't be upgraded to full spec. Even if the change is possible (usually it's pretty easy), it's illegal to change a learner bike to a full spec bike - and if it's discovered then registration and insurance are deemed void and the rider/owner can face serious liability issues. It's a great looking bike and a pity that the importer only supplies the low spec model.
Can be derestricted, registered and insured in QLD Australia but can never be changed back and registered as LAMS (restricted). Lose all LAMS resale value.
I’ve been enjoying my Trident for the last 3 weeks. I don’t do track days and I am definitely not riding with a “faster” group. In my case, the better components and speed/torque difference in the street triple does not justify the higher cost.
It's a fantastic bike! In my opinion the big reason to get the Street Triple is for doing an occasional track day. The Trident is SUPER compelling as a street bike though
A lot hangs on this review - so no pressure then. Been thinking about which of these to buy so comes at a perfect time. Thank you. I’ll let you know after what I decide…😬
I really REALLY hate the rear of the Trident. FFS. just give the option of a tail tidy. I hate that hugger number plate. That and the fact I can get a second and striple for less than the cost of a Trident, its better specs and they have less than 10K miles on them.... ughghhgh.
If street triple came with a round headlight, I would have bought it at once. Hate the front light dash module (from the side), the front looks ok though.
At 6'2" I'd probably have to have the Speed Triple rather than either of these. The both look great but Triumphs are a little on the small side. Oh well it's an excuse to buy a 180bhp hypernaked 😎
Can I ask how you think the quick shifter is as I rode a demo with it on and wasn’t very impressed. It was ok going down but hard to get going up? Regards Simon
On the trident? It’s not as precise as the street triple but fine once you get the hang of it. You need to be firm with it and follow through as there’s a bit more travel than the street triple. Or at least that’s how it feels to me
I've had it a couple of months and it all looks fine, but I think we're looking at a year or so before those problems would be likely to show up. Especially now we're coming into summer. I'll report back if anything does crop up tho
Can anyone recommend which version I should get? I'm 63-years old and in great physical condition, 5'11" height, 175-lbs weight, with a 34-inch pants inseam. The bike would mostly be used just outside a small city in suburb/rural short rides. I have not owned a bike in 40-years. Previously I had a Honda 500-Four for a few years, then a Honda 750-Four for several more years. I thought about getting a new Honda CB650R, but one of the RU-vid channel guys (MotoJitsu) suggested I first buy a Yamaha FZ-07 or MT-07 to see if I wanted to get back into riding, although I heard they were lurchy with a lower-quality suspension that does not promote rider confidence. Any thoughts?
I've been riding since 1974, starting with a series of Kwak triples and lastly a FJ1200 but I need to find something a little more manageable after a series of health care issues. On that basis either a Street Twin or a Trident would fit the bill nicely. Or an Interceptor 650. Or a Honda CB500X. Or..............D'ho!
