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Tromba Jazzbone - Review and demonstration 

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This video is a review and demonstration of the Tromba Jazzbone. A plastic fantastic trying desperately to find its place in the world.
The piece I mutilate in this video is The Bluebells of Scotland.
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@seandecoursey
@seandecoursey 5 лет назад
Trent’s the man I’m aware of who buys a jazz trombone and plays classical music
@numbersix1908
@numbersix1908 6 лет назад
it's a maj 7th that's why they called it a jazzbone
@pulsebot5710
@pulsebot5710 6 лет назад
underrated comment
@electricharmonyac7354
@electricharmonyac7354 5 лет назад
vii,or VII?😃
@jameslombardo8535
@jameslombardo8535 4 года назад
Oooohhhhh that’s a good point
@rainyjacktheepic
@rainyjacktheepic 7 лет назад
Now all we need is a quadruple slides trombone so that all the positions are quartered.
@joecrosstfxc9566
@joecrosstfxc9566 6 лет назад
There'll be like 3 positions lol
@ikirumori
@ikirumori 6 лет назад
@@joecrosstfxc9566 exactly
@rollingnsmoking
@rollingnsmoking 5 лет назад
no.
@leecoker7562
@leecoker7562 5 лет назад
@@rollingnsmoking hey youre in the trombone cult with me
@rollingnsmoking
@rollingnsmoking 5 лет назад
@@leecoker7562 so it would seem
@tofu.delivery.
@tofu.delivery. 7 лет назад
"It's... dirty colored" ROFL
@willemkossen
@willemkossen 7 лет назад
Euan Zhang agreed, i had to sit back down after that one too.
@theeverythingchannel5457
@theeverythingchannel5457 7 лет назад
That and 'let me reassemble the slide......takes no more than 7 or 8 minutes' had me dying!! XD
@tubadave7476
@tubadave7476 6 лет назад
"Not really high F, as in scrunch the undies and crinkle the eyelids sort of F" This is why your the best
@samuelmac1054
@samuelmac1054 7 лет назад
I had one of those but I couldn't get my assorted liquids out with the spit valves
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright 7 лет назад
On a jizzbone, presumably...
@marycomiskey530
@marycomiskey530 5 лет назад
Assorted liquids 😂😂😂
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 5 лет назад
Ask it to swallow.
@philen
@philen 5 лет назад
yo need sum jizzvalves on yo tromboner
@fadededed
@fadededed 7 лет назад
im confused but hey what the hell i play clarinet
@brycepoindexter6803
@brycepoindexter6803 7 лет назад
Same
@diegorangel419
@diegorangel419 7 лет назад
Same
@mattiasolsson1757
@mattiasolsson1757 7 лет назад
Me too. But I also play the trumpet, trombone, baritone, organ, piano, guitar and maybe some more. :)
@crushingrocks
@crushingrocks 7 лет назад
same lol
@xen0vantage542
@xen0vantage542 7 лет назад
Mattias Olsson Trumpet, Alto trombone, tenor trombone, baritone, French horn, and piano
@eporeon
@eporeon 7 лет назад
How do you find/own all these instruments? Almost every single one of your videos has an instrument I've never heard of.
@noapleb5397
@noapleb5397 7 лет назад
he buys them on sites like ebay. thats why most of them are not in great condition
@BrunoNeureiter
@BrunoNeureiter 5 лет назад
@@noapleb5397 that's an amazing insult
@BrunoNeureiter
@BrunoNeureiter 2 года назад
@@mihailmilev9909 I don't remember
@willemkossen
@willemkossen 7 лет назад
The extra tube bit is either for holding your cigarette while playing or its a place to put a padlock to lock the instrument. It could also hold a rose if you happen to play an out of tune tango. Why is the word bone associated with brass instrument (including plastic ones) as they are obviously not made of bone or shaped like a bone either?
@especiallyleavish
@especiallyleavish 7 лет назад
Comes from the french word for paperclip, though it could also just be an extension of the word Tromba, which was the name for trumpet in a buncha countries
@oclone120
@oclone120 6 лет назад
or are they made of bone?
@colejackson6396
@colejackson6396 5 лет назад
What world do you live in, where bone is associated with anything other than the TROMbone, which comes from Italian, where it means large trumpet?
@jackmills5071
@jackmills5071 4 года назад
@@colejackson6396 "Axe" was a common slang for a horn in america, so anything could possibly be used to refer to an instrument. Similar to how "keys" can be used to refer to any instrument using a keyboard layout, the exception being accordion or other keyed wind instruments.
@mechwarrior5727
@mechwarrior5727 4 года назад
early versions of the instrument were known as the sackbut (or sagbut, sagbutt, sackbutt etc) but it was also known as trombone in italy, kinda went from there
@mr.mister2619
@mr.mister2619 6 лет назад
"it is no longer white. It is.... Dirty colored" 10/10
@Tsmowl
@Tsmowl 7 лет назад
7:40 Wow. That's actually closer to a major 7th than an octave
@danielbarrios3028
@danielbarrios3028 7 лет назад
heard there was an earthquake /tsunami around were you live today. everything alright?
@cobalt._.27
@cobalt._.27 5 лет назад
Daniel Barrios yes he is alright
@thenewtrombonium1166
@thenewtrombonium1166 7 лет назад
I think Tromba has a slide limiting rod available for the Jazzbone. That's what the little hollow tube is for. The rod is held in place with the hole near the handgrip and the slide tube rides along it. The rod has a little nub on the end to keep you from losing the slide hitting "7th" position.
@colejackson6396
@colejackson6396 5 лет назад
I love the massive breaths with no care in the world about staying in time
@aidenbagshaw5573
@aidenbagshaw5573 4 года назад
That’s not an out-of-tune F, that’s an E. It’s not a fault, it’s a feature.
@indieWellie
@indieWellie 4 года назад
it just works
@rosskoning
@rosskoning 6 лет назад
I have read that there is a safety device that should have been in your case. It is designed to help you while learning the half-spaced positions, and may explain the "mysterious" extra tube you didn't appreciate being in the grip area. A rod that maybe interacts with the tube is supposed to prevent you from going out beyond the half-seventh position and have your slide(s) come apart in the middle of playing.
@Jurgensen1
@Jurgensen1 3 года назад
I bet this could be a perfect instrument to sort of be a ‘transfer’ version going from Tenor Trombone to Soprano Trombone. Now we need a Soprano Jazzbone to transfer to the Piccolo Trombone!
@kingofhere1662
@kingofhere1662 7 лет назад
I don't know ... I don't want to say anything negative because I love your videos so much. Please don't take this the wrong way. While it's clear this is not a great instrument, It sounds like you're not warmed up or you've not played Blue Bells in a while. I'm not convinced that we are seeing this instrument's true potential. I'm really sorry; I hope you don't take this is negative criticism.
@PimpedKoalas
@PimpedKoalas 7 лет назад
I don't think he'll take offence to it, it's honest feedback. But I didn't get that vibe from his playing, I think it just has to do with halved slide positions. If you play trombone, you can imagine how hard it is to play everything a few inches farther in than you're used to. If you play a valved instrument, imagine playing some notes regular, some notes a half step up and others a full step up. Challenging stuff. Edit: just rewatched it. Didn't realize the cracks the first time. Oh well, some people have bad playing days. Or maybe he didn't warm up. Who knows
@sascharambeaud1609
@sascharambeaud1609 7 лет назад
He's also using the plastic mouthpiece, which is less than ideal.
@lucassherfey9119
@lucassherfey9119 7 лет назад
That's a good point- I play the trombone, and it looked like he was having some difficulty adjusting to this in the beginning of the video. I also thought that the video was unnecessarily critical though- his others do it quite well, but it just seemed forced here. Plastic instruments aren't as bad as he makes them out to be, either (although by my experience they're still a long shot away from brass quality)
@sascharambeaud1609
@sascharambeaud1609 7 лет назад
I don't see where he's overly harsh, actually. The fact that the high f isn't in tune - which was something I observed on mine too and prompted me to return it, luckily customer rights are pretty good in the EU - is pretty much a deal breaker. Unfortunately it's too low, so kind of hard to correct, other than using the alternative position. Otherwise I found the thing really fun to play, even despite some too sharp edges, that cumbersome slidestopper restricting finger space and the sound the slide makes.
@FearghasG
@FearghasG 7 лет назад
I wish I'd seen this before I bought one. I was intrigued by plastic but didn't want to replicate anything I already had in brass. This instrument seemed like it expanded the scope of experimentation more, but due to its flaws (the flat F... he's not got a lemon, mine does the exact same as do others, and the pinching tube thing which serves no purpose) make this instrument unplayable. Which is a shame, because its sound is REALLY GOOD. It bottoms out very fast because there isn't enough density to vibrate well for lower notes (even Bb octave below middle C you start to notice it) but it really sings higher notes probably for the same reason that it sucks for low notes. The nice sound has been handy to overdub a few times in recording but I would never play this live.
@fortepiano4491
@fortepiano4491 7 лет назад
You should learn a piece called 'Miss Trombone'. It's more advanced, but hella fun to play. Teddy Trombone is another.
@anthonydang6727
@anthonydang6727 7 лет назад
Forte Piano it's not that hard, I think it is grade 4 level
@billygarvey633
@billygarvey633 7 лет назад
Forte Piano I did this in eight grade. Given, I'm a trumpet player and our prodegy-home schooled trombone player did the Bone part
@MR5er1
@MR5er1 5 лет назад
The Wise Teddy Bear too
@stevelanderson8996
@stevelanderson8996 7 лет назад
why didn't u play a jazz piece
@BrashNZ
@BrashNZ 7 лет назад
I think Trent is FIRST & FOREMOST a Brass Band man.
@compside
@compside 5 лет назад
Because blue bells
@kairs621
@kairs621 5 лет назад
Terd Nugget blue bells of New Zealand
@blastckxxgd5729
@blastckxxgd5729 5 лет назад
“And that is a high F. Not REALLY high F, as in scrunch the undies and crinkle the eyelids sort of F. “ - Hent Tramilton
@daisybetlej765
@daisybetlej765 7 лет назад
NEVER TRUST AN INSTRUMENT THAT CHANGES SHAPE WHEN YOU PLAY IT PLEASE IM TELLING YOU
@lowak3
@lowak3 7 лет назад
Nice excerpt from bluebells of Scotland. One of my favorite solos of all time.
@macklive3257
@macklive3257 7 лет назад
brilliant video!!!!! i am so happy that your channel exists!!!
@willemkossen
@willemkossen 7 лет назад
Mack_Playz same
@danielnewman134
@danielnewman134 2 года назад
They should rename it from Tromba to Trauma, because that is what the player and the listener will experience with the sound that this plastic novelty makes. The extra tube is for a blow dart. If the woodwind section goes out of tune, the tromba player fires a tranquilizer dart to put them to sleep until the concert ends.
@poemedufeu
@poemedufeu 6 лет назад
It would only be twice is loud if you had 10 slides, Trent. I know. The slides are very loud either way.
@cbfedge5593
@cbfedge5593 4 года назад
If they had actuated both valves at the same time, not enough air would've reached the second tube to empty it well, no?
@stokerboiler
@stokerboiler 7 лет назад
Not a bad idea, but shoddily executed. Plastic slides are inherently noisy, high drag, and tend to abrade themselves. The out-of-tune high F just indicates that the instrument was rushed to market without working out the bugs.
@mr.klunee4103
@mr.klunee4103 6 лет назад
high F is naturally sharp on all trombones unless you play flat-1st position (halfway between 1 and 2)
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass 5 лет назад
@@mr.klunee4103 precisely; high F has to be played with the slide out a bit on any normal trombone, making it extra weird that this one's high F is somehow flat. How Tromba pulled off such a glorious failure I cannot say.
@mr.klunee4103
@mr.klunee4103 5 лет назад
Samuel Plays Brass yeah, I would guess it's the unusual double slide (because it affects the length of tubing) that throws it off but who knows.
@TXGrackle
@TXGrackle 7 лет назад
I've still got the scar of when I pinched myself with the slide. Didn't even know Tromba made this.
@cobalt._.27
@cobalt._.27 5 лет назад
Cesar Cortez that happened to me this morning in jazz. O u c h .
@FanTrombone
@FanTrombone 7 лет назад
I enjoy the critic"s of the instruments you have been providing.
@wildgator
@wildgator 7 лет назад
I own one of these. The plastic feels nice in your hands, but be wary of the brittle spit valves. Also the inner slides with the black tips wiggle off the slide assembly for some reason and slip back on. Very novelty but a fun time. Don't stick one of your quality metal mouthpieces in these, after a bit of playing, they will become stuck inside the brittle thing and I've tried everything to get that bugger out
@inspiration_5877
@inspiration_5877 7 лет назад
Woah 212 likes 0 dislikes :O Keep up the videos Trent ;)
@memelab5183
@memelab5183 7 лет назад
If it's a jazz bone then where is jazz music
@jointsmoke3767
@jointsmoke3767 7 лет назад
I personally have this instrument. The hole on the slide you mentioned is for a plastic rod that connects the outer slide to the inner slide so that you don't accidentally overextend the outer slide and have it fall off while playing.
@buzzinbethan
@buzzinbethan 7 лет назад
As the rest of my family is rather musical I'd like to get my little brother (a tiny 8 year old) a preferably plastic trombone for Christmas. What would you recommend? I was interested in this as he's so small he'd be able to reach the end.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 7 лет назад
My only real issue with this instrument is the face the tuning is out of whack on the high F harmonic.
@Varadict
@Varadict 7 лет назад
I recommend NOT going with Tromba, Go with Pbone. :)
@_helium_
@_helium_ 7 лет назад
if you want to buy a plastic, Tiger is best
@2runnapaul988
@2runnapaul988 7 лет назад
Adam Bergen is a plastic tuba or bronze better ??
@_helium_
@_helium_ 7 лет назад
Paul Gt I don't know tubas. I didn't even know they made them out of bronze.
@billygarvey633
@billygarvey633 7 лет назад
Actually, double the slides does not mean it's twice as loud. I believe you would need 10x the slides to make it twice as loud, someone correct me if I'm wrong
@mossmelon
@mossmelon 7 лет назад
I think he was talking about the sound the slide makes when it rubs against the other peice of the slide
@bobbynunu12
@bobbynunu12 7 лет назад
LOL I like that eraser idea with the rubber stoppers! so resourceful!
@fatbetrn1976
@fatbetrn1976 5 лет назад
Blue Bells of Scotland 👌🏼
@chrisblack2625
@chrisblack2625 7 лет назад
Well, mr. Hamilton, did you enjoy that earthquake? And tromba has moved up in the world
@workshopman1551
@workshopman1551 6 лет назад
0:11 RIP Trent's fingers. I do that all the time.
@FreezingGamer1
@FreezingGamer1 7 лет назад
Funny that I just started learning Bluebells of Scotland
@calebp.7251
@calebp.7251 5 лет назад
It’s dirty colored
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 7 лет назад
This concept (the short, double slide) was used on an instrument called a "quadro" back in the 1970s. Not many were made, but they too were considered jazz instruments. As for that flat high F, I bet there's a bit of plastic constricting the bore somewhere, and if you could knock it out without breaking anything in the process, that might be correctable.
@sascharambeaud1609
@sascharambeaud1609 7 лет назад
That mysterious extra tube used to hold a stick approximately the length of the slide. It runs through a hole in the slide crossbar and - having a stopper at the end - prevents the outer slide from being inadvertently pulled off from the inner slides. Which is something that's happening quite frequently if you're used to regular trombone positions, specifically NOT used to such a short end position ;). That stick was kind of uncomfortable though, depending on how one holds the slide while playing, so maybe they shelved the concept.
@ZombucksCoffee
@ZombucksCoffee 7 лет назад
Finally the cute little jazzbone! Would you recommend it for a travelling trombone for holidays?
@ajschlem
@ajschlem 7 лет назад
Question. Does each slide move independently, or are they connected?
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 7 лет назад
They're all connected :)
@generaljefe2749
@generaljefe2749 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton Could you do more vids with a saxophone
@ajschlem
@ajschlem 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton Thank you for replying!
@hanj31
@hanj31 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton you should review the tiger plastic trombone with the F trigger
@marty1662
@marty1662 7 лет назад
Baseballer_AJ they are connected, there are just two of them to make the slide half as long
@SuperRed876
@SuperRed876 7 лет назад
Hi Trent, I am a junior in high school and want to get a new horn I need something that can play jazz and symphonic (unless one is phenomenally better than the other) I need something that's good at both. The trumpets I am looking at are the Back 180s37, Schilke X3, and the Bach LT190 "commercial" trumpet. What is your opinion on the matter because I am utterly stuck between horns, Thank you.
@drzoidberg71
@drzoidberg71 7 лет назад
About the only thing I could think of that this instrument would be "useful" for is getting a newcomer to the trombone used to it. Even then, they're going to have to relearn it on an actual proper-sized trombone. it LOOKS cool, but that's about all it's got going for it. Anyone who is going to be playing the trombone for a career, or more than just kicking around with friends or even just solo garage playing will not want this thing. It doesn't even have a 7th position? That's one of the few things that should be a feature! 7th is very hard to reach for younger players, and again, they'd have to relearn it again when they "step up" to a proper trombone? What use is this thing anyway? Decorative? hehe
@charlesthaden3545
@charlesthaden3545 7 лет назад
God damn you can make even a cheap plastic trombone sound better than i can play on my $1000 trombone! That would kinda be justified by the fact that ive only played for about 3 years compared to your 10+ years of experience.
@brodyreames2374
@brodyreames2374 6 лет назад
now play the entire piece 😂
@TheSciFiNut
@TheSciFiNut 7 лет назад
What's your opinion on the Getzen Super Deluxe Tone Balanced Trumpets?
@arielhernansuaznabar9527
@arielhernansuaznabar9527 7 лет назад
Hey Trent. How are you? I think that this instrument is made for a child. That should be why in the slide section there is an extrange tube because his/her hands are small so maybe (just maybe) it is an aid to hold this trombone properly. If you found out if it is for another reason, please let me know. In my my case it is just a guess :)
@channelterminatedbyuser
@channelterminatedbyuser 7 лет назад
So you basically have to learn a new instrument because you slide shorter. I don't have time for that nonsense. Both thumbs down. Thanks for the info!
@zackary-z
@zackary-z 7 лет назад
trent will you please do a top 5 / 10 trombones and trumpets based on personal experience and if you have already done that im sorry for sounding like a broken record thx :b
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 7 лет назад
I'm not sure which is more entertaining, all the unusual instruments you come up with or your particular brand of English.
@realityx8908
@realityx8908 2 года назад
I'm glad I can hear the intricate music made by the slide accompanied by those pitched notes, so slidey, so plasticy.
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 7 лет назад
I hope you didn't get shaken to pieces up your end of the country.
@roblamastus
@roblamastus 2 года назад
Love watching your old video and seeing how much you and your wall of noisy things change.
@gabriellprophete5081
@gabriellprophete5081 4 года назад
Not even st Thomas man not one jazz come on man I love your video but come on not one jazz song autumn leave, bye bye blackbird i understand you play classical music but come on just one jazz song its a jazz bone jazz is in it's name man
@alio2269
@alio2269 7 лет назад
you look a lot like a trombonist/tuba player I've seen in real life
@alio2269
@alio2269 7 лет назад
it could just be the beard, glasses and well roundedness
@Xenol1997
@Xenol1997 7 лет назад
Please look at some of the obscure Wessex Tubas instruments!
@mandelharvey3429
@mandelharvey3429 6 лет назад
Seems like a fine idea. Just not thought through. You're entertaining.
@iancollins407
@iancollins407 7 лет назад
So why is it called the jazzbone? Does it have any real advantages in playing jazz?
@whodat1967
@whodat1967 7 лет назад
Blue Bells is supposed to sound nice but the Jazzbone makes it sound worse than anything on the planet
@mikeadkins65
@mikeadkins65 7 лет назад
Owned this instrument for all of 3 days. I really tried to like it but the instrument is really out of tune as mentioned and the slides are so sticky it was like I coated the slides in honey. Can't recommend it even as a curiosity instrument.
@wyattwahlgren8883
@wyattwahlgren8883 7 лет назад
It seems that whenever someone who has played an actual trombone tries out a tromba trombone, it gets a bad review because they're cheap. Is it even worth the time to review tromba products anymore?
@JonFrumTheFirst
@JonFrumTheFirst 7 лет назад
Half length slide means cutting the acceptable range around each position in half as well. Bad for intonation
@alvarocerritos
@alvarocerritos 7 лет назад
I think I know why that little piece of tubing on the slide is there. it would have a plastic stick that would be connected at the beginning of the slide and that little tube is to hold it in place, but yours doesn't have the plastic stick
@phillipstone4383
@phillipstone4383 7 лет назад
Pretty sure that tube is for your mouthpiece to go if you wanna do mouthpiece excercizes and use the slide
@LarryShone
@LarryShone 3 года назад
Great for kids who want to make a noise I suppose. Pretty dreadful otherwise
@kooleeon
@kooleeon 7 лет назад
I have a 49 year old cornet and all of the slides are stuck. How can I fix them?
@maxman5539
@maxman5539 7 лет назад
I found a trumpet on eBay you might like for about $9.99
@lukesoelter7474
@lukesoelter7474 7 лет назад
+Trent Hamilton a girl In my class has a sia musical trumpet and I kinda feel bad
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 4 года назад
4:29 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CxlFs_TyG98.html Here's a video that shows the reason that little piece of tube is there
@abedinsubashi
@abedinsubashi 5 лет назад
What’s the full range of it? Is it similar to a typical tenor trombone?
@kaseybuchholz5244
@kaseybuchholz5244 7 лет назад
Nice intro there mate. pinched finger. I know that hurts.
@kylerfreeland6294
@kylerfreeland6294 7 лет назад
so what is the purpose for the instrument, as in is it designed to do anything special or is it just for the fun of it they made it. and also great video once again
@deanduffy4722
@deanduffy4722 3 месяца назад
I need this because my arms are too short to reach past 5th position
@jaminater3982
@jaminater3982 7 лет назад
Has the earthquake effected you and your instruments at all?
@jakesibley897
@jakesibley897 7 лет назад
I play the violin what the fuck am I doing here
@dustanmahan7967
@dustanmahan7967 7 лет назад
Wouldn't it have been better to test it on a jazz piece because it is a "jazzbone"
@bigdingus3489
@bigdingus3489 7 лет назад
probably the worse thing you've ever played on.
@aliyahquinton378
@aliyahquinton378 7 лет назад
I'm early😘
@evanwhite5704
@evanwhite5704 7 лет назад
The little rod on the slide might be a little tube so you can make your own german water key
@johnelwer3633
@johnelwer3633 3 года назад
Is this targeted for kids? Seems the short slide would be great.
@coffeyscarburetors6437
@coffeyscarburetors6437 6 лет назад
I think its there so you cant put the slide together the wrong way.
@sharkmanyt4431
@sharkmanyt4431 6 лет назад
I like most tromba/pBone instruments, but not so much this one
@BigDogCountry
@BigDogCountry 5 лет назад
Why does the brass in the intro sound Synth?
@jarofdirt2566
@jarofdirt2566 7 лет назад
Maybe that small tube is so you know which way to put the slide on.
@AlgyCuber
@AlgyCuber 5 лет назад
what's the difference between a trombone and a jazzbone?
@jtmid2000
@jtmid2000 7 лет назад
6:00 I definitely don't do that. Most certainly not. Never. Hasn't even crossed my mind.
@henrybeenh7076
@henrybeenh7076 6 лет назад
At 9:13 starts the mating-call of some extinct animal?
@otto9141
@otto9141 7 лет назад
You're the Ashens but for trumpet-y instruments
@johnmcglockenspiel6823
@johnmcglockenspiel6823 7 лет назад
It sounds like an awful slide horn creation
@silassherbundy4770
@silassherbundy4770 5 лет назад
Now can you put the slide on a normal trombone
@privatecocky8971
@privatecocky8971 7 лет назад
Tromba KenBone. I had to.
@willemkossen
@willemkossen 7 лет назад
Private Cocky more like a boneless tromba...
@Leo-vr3bg
@Leo-vr3bg 5 лет назад
Could be good for kids with short arms.
@ggolipeter4789
@ggolipeter4789 7 лет назад
How much is that Trombone?
@buckeye998
@buckeye998 7 лет назад
What is your opinion on DCIs?
@Albert555lol
@Albert555lol 7 лет назад
Not effected by the Earth quake?
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