TROMBONE/BRASS 'INTONATION and TUNING' MASTERCLASS

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Hi everyone,
FOR ALL TROMBONISTS!!!
A Patreon student asked me if I would talk a bit about intonation and tuning on the Trombone.. so here you go.
Some slightly controversial things ( perhaps?) but I'm keeping it real.
Lips, Air, Slide, Fatigue, Muscle Memory, Snarks, Melodyne, A440, Major 3rds and how to eat a bowl of cereal with your eyes closed. ha ha.
#lowbrass #jazz #trombonist #trumpet #barnabydickinson #trombone #brassplayer #music #jazzlessons #musician #tuning #intonation

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15 окт 2024

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@crtune 2 месяца назад

I find this little exercise helps - I play some note like middle Bb, or D above middle C, or really any of several notes like that (notes where two or more of the same note are available at different positions on the horn), then I somewhat quickly move the slide out to the other Bb (# 5th position) and play with particular attention to good centered sound and pitch matching. D in first and in adjusted 4th is another classic one of these. F in first and in raised 4th is also like this. I may also run a tuner on my phone or iPad so I can see if I'm near the actual legit pitch. A Snark device would do this same thing. There really are a bunch of notes which can do this. The A natural right below middle Bb is good for this too - you play A in second, and A in sixth position. There are notes like this which will help you get the feel for all the positions on the horn. This makes it easier to get a solid muscle memory on where the various positions are (some are not plain positions but need adjusting - so keep in mind that adjustments are needed to tune everything up). Like you, I avoid using a finger to check third position being by the bell.

@trombonegamer14 3 месяца назад

BRB sending this to all my students. Great channel by the way

@mustafa1name 3 месяца назад

"In Germany they have a different pitch, I think it's slightly lower in Germany? Can't remember!". This intrigued me. Pitch of 440Hz for A4 (A above middle C) was adopted by the ISO in 1955, following an international conference in 1939 and American usage long before that. Historically it was generally lower but variable. Commercial orchestras sometimes inflate pitch to sound brighter - this annoys vocalists. In Japan and Cuba they apparently use a different standards, but in Germany, as far as I can tell, they use concert pitch? Stay tuned!

@BarnabyDickinson 3 месяца назад

I just spoke to a mate of mine and he said that in the German big bands they tune to A442. 🤷‍♂️

@mustafa1name 3 месяца назад

@@BarnabyDickinson 4-4-2, football pitch!

@mustafa1name Месяц назад

Must watch: Cher impression @20:30

@BarnabyDickinson Месяц назад

@@mustafa1name 🤣😂🤣

@MrStareze 3 месяца назад

Are you talking about just intonation as a brass trio, ensemble or band? Raise the 5th, lower the major 3rd, raise the minor 3rd, etc? In the US several books, scholars, and pedagogists use this to great success

@BarnabyDickinson 3 месяца назад

Hi mate, all of the above and Yes, great advice. That’s exactly what I’m talking about 👍 always keep your ears switched on to what part of the chord you are on.

@MrStareze 3 месяца назад

Wish American's use the salutation "hi mate!" ❤ Y'all Brits got that right 👍 @@BarnabyDickinson

@Running_injuries 3 месяца назад

how to lip everything so you DON'T have to use the tuning slide? that could be an effect. also for partials if you lip everything then you DON'T have to move the slide for certain partials [but you said that was bad?]

@BarnabyDickinson 3 месяца назад

If you are a trumpet player then you should move the tuning slide to be in tune for sure ( Trombone players can adjust with the main slide but the principal is still something to think about). When you play, you always want to be playing in the most efficient way.. so the less ‘lipping’ of notes is surely the most efficient way of playing.. which will help stamina. 👍

@WPMyers1 3 месяца назад

I have to disagree with the statement about tuning to the lead (12 mins. in). You tune to the bass - it establishes the overtone structure for the ensemble. When the bass plays a C, you're actually hearing an amalgamation of pitches (Harmonics: C, C, G, C, E, G, Bb, C,...). So, the G is built into the C sound. If you don't tune to the bass, you will sound out of tune. Listen up for articulation, but definitely down for tuning.

@BarnabyDickinson 3 месяца назад

💯 👍

@crtune 2 месяца назад

It's a team thing. Everyone has their responsibility. I'm quite often lead trombone, but also do plenty of 2nd or 3rd, just depending upon the group. The lead alto, and rest of the saxes and all the sections have to pay close attention to the bass and piano. The piano is typically the only axe which is not going to be able to be tuned differently. In a Wind Ensemble, or orchestra this may the orchestra bells or tubular chime bells or celeste if that is in the orchestration. Wind ensembles use Bb for tuning, but orchestras use A. It turns out that A natural is not really all that helpful for a trombone since it is located in second position and thus relies upon the vague notion of where that is exactly with the hand slide. Trombonists are constantly tuning up on each and every note they play, so we never cease focus on that area. This is a bit like with cello or other string instruments, we have seven locations for the hand slide called positions, but not all notes line exactly up to the same physical location (some partials just are not the same in pitch, this depends upon the specific horn; each horn can be different). There are some notes which always are seriously flat, say, and thus need raising. I agree that bass and piano are key normally. Barnaby is also right that key players through the group are worth paying attention to as well, it's not binary, we are all tuning up to a sort of "standard". First we do our main tuning (Barnaby is right - the back of horn tuning slide is actually not going to get moved around a lot), then we continue to pay attention as we perform. The more you play the horn the better you get at this stuff eventually doing this stuff remarkably fast.