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Ajax was a great a warrior as achelles - so was dimomedes arguably better (diomedes litterally defeats ares the god of war and wounds another god too). No Trojan ever defeated any of them. Hector was built up in the movie to be a lot of a greater warrior than he really was. Agammemnon was another great warrior who was at the level of achilles. The whole point of achilles besting hector was the importance to his image - more so than the actual difficulty of the feat itself. There was no equivalence in the fighting prowess of the Greek heroes and Trojan ones. All the greatest warriors in the actual illiad were Greek. That said the illiad also looked favorably of the Trojans and constantly questioned the morality of war, and intentions of the Greeks. It examined why war was important - why it is a waste - its contribution or non contribution to these heroes.
Yes, yes, everyone was goo but there's someone who rarely gets mentioned in these kind of interviews, Sean Bean, certainly one of the best of his generation and one of the all-time greats. Odysseus was more real than real and those lines he says, well, immortal.
I always thought Richard Egan's portrayal of Leonidas was more impactful; Leonidas only had 300 Spartans not a thousand ships, he was a great strategist that knew where to make his stand / utilize his forces / like Hector, he knew he wouldn't survive but still fought a great battle. Heroes like this remain today and some of them are awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, become Special Forces, or fight for kids being bullied on all levels many whom helped me.
Greg Moody man if you know Leonidas didn't have only 300 warriors. There was 10000 before efialtis betrayed them. After Leonidas send them to other sides and stay with 700 thespians and 300 Spartans bodyguards
Yo Soy -Time to dip back into the anti-psychotics! What do you mean you knew what he looked life? Are you his recreated sex boy or have you lost your interest in Brad “arm” Pitts?
Κοντ Κονττ I've heard, from a few sources, that state the Greeks are taught these stories as history and not as myth. Is this accurate or are those sources wrong? Just curiosity kickin up.😊
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There were two poems made by Homer about this war and the adventurous return of Odysseus to Ithaca after that.For many years this war was considered a myth because of no existence of a city just like the Troy anywhere(maybe because of its total raze?)...Archaeologists after 17th century begun a research for Troy and found a complex of extremely old cities just where Troy was believed to be.This fact,, in addition to the beliefs of ancient Greeks that Trojan war was reffered to had happened,made many people and researchers start thinking that perhaps this war was real, but surely without most of the extreme in general Homer used to make his poems such loved stories...In conclusion,the opinions between researchers differ.But the stories of Homer are taught in Greek schools because they have a lot to tell about the generall society and culture of Ancient greece and their unbelievable faith to their human values and their Gods at all.
@WinterGirl Constantinople was only renamed Instanbul by modern Turkey 100ish years ago. It was still officically called Constantinople during the entire Ottoman era.
I dont understand why people consider this a myth.Agamemnon name was found carved in stone achillies actually killed prince hector and his lil boy.he didnt aproach troy on one ship with 50 men he had control of 50 ships and to make matters worst his remains was found on a small island thats now called black island.the man actually lived.
Agreed. Troy was also found. This thing did happen, Homer simply used it as a blueprint for an epic tale, similarly to how we use history and dramatize it for movies and series today.
So since when do people watch a movie based on how accurate it follows historical events? One can never be 100% sure just how much of what is written is true anyways. There are thousands of films far more unrealistic than this one, yet we give this movie all the hate because it didn't present a convenient ending to what we've read in history books?! A movie is made to entertain and inspire.
yeah and this film is uninspiring. Yes, things sometimes need to be changed for entertainment purposes but he writing in this was lazy and cheaply changed the events of the iliad in uncreative ways like conveniently providing an escape passage out of Troy, and making Achilles and Patroclus cousins so it doesn't have to deal with Greek love. It deserves the hate it gets.
No masterpiece but a solid popcorn-flick for the summer, with nice sets, for people who enjoy grand battle scenes. However, I watched last years BBC-series "Troy: Fall of a City" - at least parts of it - and it made this flick look like "Lawrence of Arabia". Oh, and would it comes much as a surprise that both Achilles and Prokolus are blacker than chimney-cleaners? Zeus too. Imagine if they would cast Brad Pitt as Shaka Zulu... and the shitstorm that would darken the skies, between Hollywood and Cape Town.
3:49 I have to say it was clear to me, as a child, whom I was rooting for, haha...it was Eric Bana' s character...I always saw Achilles as a villain...even later in the film, to some extent, even if a little less so...but it was very clear to me, I remember, and I think I still feel the same...
Archange Camilien how can you see him as a villain? He’s self centered yes but he did not cause this war. Trojans did. He was only taking advantage of this war to get his name remembered for thousands of years
That very fact is a reason I always saw him as a villain...I mean, haha, even as a teenager...did you see him kill the Trojan approaching with his spear?...Was he under attack?...He had too little regard for other people, only concern about his glory...and, in addition, think about the fact that he cares so much about his cousin (supposedly was his lover in the Odyssey or something, I read, probably homophobia made then change it for the film...never read the Odyssey, haha, so...only an abridged version of the Eneide, I did read, The Iliad?...Not sure how you say that in English)...the fact that he cares so much about his cousin makes him even more evil: he understands what he is doing when he kills people, as Priam tells him near the ending: "How many cousins, husbands, fathers [etc] have you killed?"...
Then he decides to go and "avenge" his cousin, knowing well that Hector had no idea whom he was killing when he killed him...that shows a lack of compassion of empathy, haha, so to speak...why doesn't he worry about all the people he is going to do the exact same thing to, why does he feel, after killing so many people, that killing his cousin is so different?...I could go on...but Hector , who hates war, was always the "good guy" for me, and Achilles, who could have avoided his cousin getting killed by simply deciding to not go kill hundreds of cousins of other people, haha, by staying in Greece, I always saw Achilles as the villain...he changes by the ending, though, I guess...but I always routed for Hector in that scene...
Hector is basically a modern man, haha...and, now that I think of it, they might have been criticizing the Iraq War...only just crossed my mind...he tells Paris that war isn't glorious, he doesn't believe in the gods (something I do not like, haha, they should have made him superstitious) and he breaks their implicit "code of honor" by killing Agammemnon, or whatever Helen's husband's name is...he cares more about people than glory or war...definitely more "rooting" - worthy...of course, as shown in the film, I really don't know about The Iliad...
Archange Camilien Paris decided to start this war because he fell in love with the wrong woman. Achilles was after his glory and view himself above everyone else as far as a warrior in a battlefield Even fighting Hector he decides to throw away his shield when Hector fell down. He thinks and acts superior to everyone else. He can feel compassion at times but not in the battlefield I think his arrogance, drive and overconfidence makes him so charismatic
I'm not sure what brought me here to this True Story about Troy starring Brad Pitt which is kind of ironic since my late Father David Moons girlfriend is Dee Pitts
Orlando Bloon que actuación tu primera en Hollywood si te viera Don Raúl que orgulloso, hicisteis tu primer filme con el, 18 años. Felicidades amigo un día nos veremos.
Paris was an annoying person causing the loss of many many great men. But in change we have got one of the greatest treasure of the human mind ever, the Homer's Iliad.
selam selam the Ethiopian king wasn't memnon but Aithiops , in Greek ΑΙΘΙΟΨ, αιθιοψ and this character wasn't among THE MOST IMPORTANT characters.The problem here is that it is an over simplification of the real story and a lot of characters , the majority , even characters more important than Aithiops didn't appear. They chose the most important characters according to them and as a Greek i find it sad .
Every thing whas Great, But the problem is the are no't Greek, The are ILLYRIAN PEOPLE, the spaek Albenian Language, The name of TROY you can find onli i Albenia all so today, wi seeing Are Troy, Albenian / English Troya ime, My Troy, Troyt e veriut, the Troy of Nord place And lot of things, And one anther thing Greek name is writing 200, years ago, The Ballkan thet time was call ILLYRIA, and how is imbosible the was Greek, And today in THRACA IN ILLIADA, the Speaking Albenian language, Som Historian the change Histori, i don't now why but, this is the tru, And one day the tru is going to com out,
