@@jonathanwpressman That was one of the best parts of the show, the uneasy alliance gave way to genuine friendship. Eric tried to save Bill when he was taken over by Lilith.
I screamed-laughed when she said "I refuse to be retired like a fat first wife!" and choked on my wine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And watching Eric on his knees with a bucket of water and a scrub brush cleaning up the slime that was Nan afterward...I rewound it several times and literally rolled around on the floor screaming! To watch such an almost perfect vampire doing such an ordinary, nasty thing was too much for me to bear.
Nan came with just three human guards and thought she'd walk out of openly insulting two vampires wildly more powerful and emotionally triggered than her? She had it comin.
Once those guards were dead and their weapons rendered useless Nan was dead whether Bill staked her right then or not. Eric most likely could have taken Nan in a straight up fight as he was older and Bill was no pushover. Plus 2 on 1 she stood no chance against those two.
Yeah ikr and then killing her really didn’t even matter because they ended up joining the same ppl she was talking about. I real waste in my opinion. Nan could’ve easily been in Season 5 during the whole Vampire authority storyline.
A stylistic choice that was a mistake in True Blood in my opinion was how immediate death is when staked. Just giving a few seconds would make it so much better, Nan at 816 years old having the look of realisation that she was going to die would have been so much better than a gooey explosion
In a straight up fight Nan would have killed Bill most likely. She’s got around 650 years on him. But this wasn’t a straight up fight and Nan had completely lost her cool. Eric had just slaughtered her “gay stormtroopers” and would have been the favorite in a fight vs Nan and Bill was just waiting for the moment to strike once Nan mentioned Sookie. Furthermore, vampire fights are never as clean cut as the older vampire always wins. There’s the element of surprise. There is strategy. There is thinking to every fight. A 1 year old vampire would have a .001% chance against Godrick. But there is always a chance.
Age makes them stronger but it didn't necessarily make them good at fighting. All weve really seen Nan do is act like a politician and stay in the company of her "gay storm troopers" throughout the shoe to demonstrate to the audience that she's 1. An important political figure and 2. Hard to get alone and always protected. It's never implied that she is a warrior or good at fighting and vampires have be taught to fight just like humans do. just bc she's old an vampires are strong doesn't make her a good fighter. So as might as I like your well thought out analysis of the scene I would just like to point out that there's no evidence ever given in the shoe fjshshe csnnfigfbsnd sikd have if coukdjsbe doing bukkcofndjmduc. I think the fact that bill killed her and not Eric dbn showcases thr fsct that she's not s ghrsggkdkfjfknd kc them physically. If there was a chance of her killing bil Eric would have taken her out when he took out her guards. She didn't even try to fight back when they killrd her guads, she just started to bitch like usual bc that washer thing .. talking and being narcissistic and too arrogant to realize she was even in danger. she didn't think they'd ever touch her bc she thought she was too important to be touched in the the first place lol. She was use to running her mouth and begging away with it.
There was literally no evidence ever put forth in the show to suggest she could fight it defend herself, only the opposite ...(hence the guards). That was my impressions least. I don't think she stood a chance. If she was even the slightest but of a threat they would have had the 1000 year old vampire kill her not bill lol
@@neillscott4192 did you see the way they exchanged glances and looked at her and the guards ? It was def planned but both of them... Eric distracted her long enough for bill to stake her. Idk if it was even a matter of strength Nan was just stupid for falling into their trap exactly the way they expected her to but to each their own.
I wish this had gone another way. Nan was a great character, it would have been cool to see her kick Bills ass since she was about 8 times his age. She should have caught that stake and given it back to him. I hated bible thumping Bill in the next season. He was nauseating.
the "fat first wife" line is in reference to when King Henry VIII divorced his first wife......Queen Catherine of Aragon (who wasn't exactly attractive).....her "retirement" was necessary for him to marry Anne Boleyn
That's not historically true. The reason that Henry divorced her was because she was sickly and the children that she bore were sickly. Catherine was pregnant at least six times and the only healthy child that she had was the future Queen Mary. She had at least two still-born children, the others died as newborns. Henry wanted to secure a male heir. Anne Boleyn was half Catherine's age and she was apparently very beautiful, so it was a good choice. It is believed by some that Henry started losing the "lead in his pencil" in his early 40's, or possibly even a little earlier. Seeing that happen, he may have been desperate for an heir, which he thought he could get with Anne; and he did. Prince Edward was the last child of King Henry.
Hazel Correct, my mistake. She actually died giving birth to Edward, didn't see? Her tenure as Queen was so short that I had actually forgotten. The logic still holds though. She was a little younger even than Anne was, and Henry was growing desperate for a male heir due to his advancing years. That was the reason that he left Catherine.
I think the original poster made a tenuous speculation and wrongly expressed it as statement of fact. The 'first wife' trope is as old as the concept of marriage is. It could have been a reference to any one particular example, or none at all. There is nothing specific to indicate it was meant as a reference to Henry VIII.
Hazel Agreed. People often forget that until about 40-50 years ago; women who birthed at least one or two children usually put on weight and kept it on.
how did Bill manage to kill Nan Flannigan? According to Nan she's 816 years old, while Bill is merely over a hundred. In True Blood lore, the older a vampire gets the faster and more powerful they were, that's why it's almost impossible for any vampire to go up against old vampires like Godric or Russell Edgington who are thousands of years old.
I never got how eric and especially Godric were just sherriff's when they were older than Sophie Ann the former Queen and Nan. Bill was younger but Eric was about 1000 while Godric was over 2000.
Sheriffs & Monarchs weren’t chosen by age alone, I read certain actions/accomplishments were the number 1 thing the authority went by when picking them.
It was about will they had no intention of playing politics thats all, so while they had the power and brute force and strength to borderline rule the entire vampire world, they also had no real desire or will to do so politically speaking.
Well....The main villain in that season was Russel along side with that shitty lilith religion of theirs... and they had a hard time getting rid of it. plus the element of surprise is always a good tactic xD
I mean, I didn't like the last season, but this is legit. She looked at what's happening behind her (Eric killing the soldiers) and Bill surprised her...
believe me it's amazing! season one was annoying and kind of cringe worthy... the acting well kind of get better in the second season and the show will get much better, for me season1 and season6 were the worst :/
My biggest issue with this show was that the writers always made the Vampires God-like (plot armor) like they were untouchable and could never be defeated, unless defeated by another fellow vampire. Yet, you had powerful witches that were always portrayed as weak and fearful of vampires, deities of actual Gods that were somehow defeated by vampires (or werewolves), fairies with supposedly powerful magic that were easily hunted and killed by vampires, etc. Maybe to a 15 - 21 year old watching the show, not noticing the dynamic, were most likely impressed by this. But as someone that actually understands the folklore, I just felt the show was incredibly unbalanced. I mean, the show should have rightfully been called “VAMPIRES, and The True Blood.” That would have made more sense 🤦🏼♂️
yes she did, because she already "killed them". you don't entertain your old executioner, because you'll only inherit all of their bad plays. Eric and Bill made the given causal move, besides, who loves a tyrant. Nan should've went into hidding, instead of trying to dredge up a guarded accet out of desperation. when you see your death, you don't try to buy your way out of it buy overdrawing your existing debts, it only makes things worse. you avoid your death angles like the plauge, as they tend to kill you, in more ways that you'd expect. hidding, sanguinestas, but not to them... jesus... tools tend to be stupid, hence why they become tools, and Nan was one.
