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True Geordie is not happy as Newcastle United’s Tonali is set to be banned from football
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@laforceyboy
@laforceyboy 10 месяцев назад
If this was a man United player, does TG defend the gambling accusations as much?
@nathancarroll1025
@nathancarroll1025 10 месяцев назад
No haha course he doesn’t
@jeremyblase
@jeremyblase 10 месяцев назад
Hell no
@briansam5681
@briansam5681 10 месяцев назад
talksport would be all over this if united were involved
@finfog4590
@finfog4590 10 месяцев назад
The fact that it’s presented as a question is laughable. Addiction or not - ban him.
@robertadam956
@robertadam956 10 месяцев назад
Crazy contrast I’d say
@user-uw8lu6pm8e
@user-uw8lu6pm8e 10 месяцев назад
Welcome back to 'Brian creates a scenario to suit his argument'
@lewissmith8918
@lewissmith8918 10 месяцев назад
Just an unbearable prick
@olavjorvik94
@olavjorvik94 10 месяцев назад
😂😂
@cyberrecluse7024
@cyberrecluse7024 10 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@dnortonx
@dnortonx 10 месяцев назад
100%%% and plus! Being an addict makes it even worse!! That means he is more likely to keep gambling and potentially be involved in corruption! So 100% he should be severely punished. Screw whether he’s an addict or not. That makes it worse!!
@bigmol1633
@bigmol1633 10 месяцев назад
Spot on. Brian is a chode
@thegeneral6045
@thegeneral6045 10 месяцев назад
It’s an integrity issue. Sick at how we make excuses for these multi millionaires. Addicts or not they have more provisions to better themselves than most normal people
@Outklassed7
@Outklassed7 10 месяцев назад
Addiction ain't as simple as "i have money i'm cured" lol. Even if you can afford the best rehab. He should still be banned tho.
@maddogfinnwinstanley4580
@maddogfinnwinstanley4580 10 месяцев назад
If anything money could enable them more, some addicts can change after hitting rock bottom by losing all of their money, these footballers cant get to rock bottom or close to significant downsides when they get paid over 100k a week.
@TheBritishPitbulls
@TheBritishPitbulls 10 месяцев назад
@@Outklassed7there’s no way he was betting before he started playing football at academy/professional level. He started betting knowing he shouldn’t be betting as an athlete. Yes he may be an addict, but he walked into this fully aware of the consequences…
@jimjogger306
@jimjogger306 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!! Money does not heal the brain, Dont talk about such a sensitive subject if you have no experience in the matter.
@Outklassed7
@Outklassed7 10 месяцев назад
Maybe he started betting on other sport. Still should face the full punishment tho@@TheBritishPitbulls
@ewanjshort
@ewanjshort 10 месяцев назад
I understand the frustration of Newcastle fans, but being addicted doesn’t mean it’s a get out of jail free card. Perhaps a different punishment can be applied to Tonali, but it still needs to be significant enough to set a precedence and prevent future players from doing the same. He can receive support and the therapy he needs, but to suggest that it’s even remotely acceptable to bet because he has a problem means we are being far too lenient for a potential crime.
@ciosnek5
@ciosnek5 10 месяцев назад
Noone said its free get out of jail card. You've created this yourself.
@jpmusson
@jpmusson 10 месяцев назад
If Bruno Fernandes did this Bryan would be baying for blood. There has got to be consistency with what was done to Toney - they can’t make the rules up as they go along.
@garygarrygaarry
@garygarrygaarry 10 месяцев назад
Funnily enough they don't make the rules. They're just some dudes podcast😂😂
@pablodrogo
@pablodrogo 10 месяцев назад
You can't expect consistency from this podcast. If it were someone from Chelsea, you'd have the Chelsea guy bending over backwards to defend him, the same for the Spurs fan and so on. This is tribalism at its finest
@jpmusson
@jpmusson 10 месяцев назад
The making rules up and expectation for consistency was directed at the PL decision makers. They were two separate thoughts. Hope that clears that up for you both.
@YouAimYourArrowsHigh
@YouAimYourArrowsHigh 10 месяцев назад
Yeah but Bruno Fernandes is a cretin - everyone would be asking for him to be banned 😉😆
@RandomParkShots
@RandomParkShots 10 месяцев назад
The inconsistency in Brian’s arguments is laughable
@samuelbrown3326
@samuelbrown3326 10 месяцев назад
he knows if it wasn’t a newcastle player he’ll be completely agreeing with them
@darkwhale-og9ig
@darkwhale-og9ig 10 месяцев назад
he would be screaming for a 3 year ban for sure @@samuelbrown3326
@allcoolmrdon
@allcoolmrdon 10 месяцев назад
I don’t think Brian fully comprehends how serious this is. Cricket players were banned for 7 years in the past for similar offences. Betting by players had the potential to compromise the integrity of the whole game and ruin the sport
@allcoolmrdon
@allcoolmrdon 10 месяцев назад
Appreciate there are some differences which is why I feel a year is fair
@EthanS95
@EthanS95 10 месяцев назад
TG a few weeks ago mentioned how he hated the weaponisation of mental health issues in sport but now when its his player he seems to want to take mental health into account.
@pricey6177
@pricey6177 10 месяцев назад
As a gambling addict I find Geordie’s reasoning absolutely hilarious.
@CarlG-xu6qe
@CarlG-xu6qe 10 месяцев назад
For Brian to imply there’s nothing wrong with betting on your own team is shocking
@kofi.10
@kofi.10 10 месяцев назад
I still don’t understand what’s wrong with betting on your own team if it’s for them to win
@Yougottado
@Yougottado 10 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@kofi.10think it has to be a blanket rule bro. If you could be losing say 10mil on one bet, you could tamper with opponents food and water etc. Players have best friends in opponent teams, could say to them u lose this game, and I’ll sort u out money afterwards, could bribe officials who are on low wages, etc. Best to try minimise conflict of interest.
@Jay-sm2mh
@Jay-sm2mh 10 месяцев назад
I agree but the fact he used an illegal site shows he clearly knew it was wrong
@rorymclean1931
@rorymclean1931 10 месяцев назад
@@Yougottado I’m not even a Newcastle fan, but all of those things that you listed can happen whether or not you are betting on your own team and are separate serious offenses that should be punishable by serious bans. Independently betting on your own team isn’t compromising your performance or the performance of the refs and opposing team. I don’t think players should be betting on themselves and I think that it should be punishable, however bans for over a year of a players career is far too much for something that isn’t affecting the integrity of the game.
@Yougottado
@Yougottado 10 месяцев назад
@@rorymclean1931 bro u literally tried to discredit my examples for why players shouldn’t bet on themselves to win and then just said players shouldn’t bet on themselves and didn’t even say a reason for it
@a.c8355
@a.c8355 10 месяцев назад
How can Brian say it doesn’t make a difference if it’s a legal website or not 🤣🤣
@R3FU3D
@R3FU3D 10 месяцев назад
I mean you can try to convince me that AC Milan didn't know Tonali was about to be banned for a year before they sold him to Newcastle.
@charliesilveston6233
@charliesilveston6233 10 месяцев назад
Yeah they definitely knew
@BKKLB
@BKKLB 10 месяцев назад
He was using illegal betting apps to hide it from view. He knew what he was doing was wrong/ illegal or he would've been doing it on normal apps. Which isn't necessarily an indicator of addiction but it's a pretty clear indicator of having known that it was wrong/ illegal. Technically its worse than Toney because Ivan Toney did not go to those lengths to hide it.
@CascadeCFC
@CascadeCFC 10 месяцев назад
Stop it Brian
@joncoish
@joncoish 10 месяцев назад
I find it ironic though that we have this story that's all over the football news, but then half the time when I watch football videos I'm getting bombarded by ads for gambling sites, etc.
@gingerbob14
@gingerbob14 10 месяцев назад
To argue he shouldn’t get the same as Toney at least says it all.
@Unclebuzzcocksne
@Unclebuzzcocksne 10 месяцев назад
As an NUFC fan there’s no option but to ban him because he was betting on his own side. He needs help, but does also need to be punished
@soltea7926
@soltea7926 10 месяцев назад
Massive newcastle fan but in all honesty players at that level betting on games they're involved in is not acceptable by any means, I'm absolutely gutted about it but Brentford had to pay the price for toney and I expect the same for us I agree that if he is genuinely an addict he should receive treatment or therapy because we have paid a large sum for him and we deserve for him to honor the contract he signed, everyone makes mistakes but he's got to keep his nose clean after this or its big big trouble
@BellyGood07
@BellyGood07 10 месяцев назад
TG upset with our transfer strategies 🤦‍♂️ Maddison didn't want to come to us, let it go!
@JoeSwann-q7s
@JoeSwann-q7s 10 месяцев назад
If this was a Sunderland player would geordie be saying the same 🤔
@Skiiman24
@Skiiman24 10 месяцев назад
@@leestevenson1233aw crying Mackems again😢
@shaun8141
@shaun8141 10 месяцев назад
Impartial Stocktonian - Let's go to a Rave lads 😊
@jamesbothoms6009
@jamesbothoms6009 10 месяцев назад
He's literally said he’s angry at him, whereas you lot sang "he shags who he wants". Go boil your heed
@kennethstark9383
@kennethstark9383 10 месяцев назад
Up the Geordies ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️👍
@BrokenJones
@BrokenJones 10 месяцев назад
It's always something much worse than gambling with Sunderland...😂
@jeremyblase
@jeremyblase 10 месяцев назад
The easiest answer ever: “you have to do what you did to Ivan Toney” yes! common sense
@jamesbothoms6009
@jamesbothoms6009 10 месяцев назад
Except Ivan Toney was charged by the English FA and Tonali is going to be sanctioned by the Italian FA. We also don’t know if Tonali has committed as many offences as Toney. I mean I’m no lawyer, but it’s almost as if they’re entirely separate cases.
@kathchandler4919
@kathchandler4919 10 месяцев назад
Toney bet against us 13 times whilst contracted to us (NUFC)
@tmantoo
@tmantoo 10 месяцев назад
As a Milan fan this whole situation is hilarious.
@anthonylafleur6549
@anthonylafleur6549 10 месяцев назад
100% agree. It’s funny to see Newcastle fans trying to come after the ownership and front office for what Tonali did on his own.
@Airyed
@Airyed 10 месяцев назад
As a Newcastle fan Milan have had absolutely played us with this transfer they have played a blinder
@BrokenJones
@BrokenJones 10 месяцев назад
Yeh they have done. All clubs could be suspicious of them now though, at least we will be anyway.
@rustyrench4278
@rustyrench4278 10 месяцев назад
Should have bought mctomer
@TwiSteDx0x
@TwiSteDx0x 10 месяцев назад
Why? You think they knew about this?
@mfjosh6422
@mfjosh6422 10 месяцев назад
There’s no way they knew about this, he was also gambling on his former club Brescia
@danielnicholson4660
@danielnicholson4660 10 месяцев назад
I just can't see it, milan are a reputable prestigious club
@James__________________
@James__________________ 10 месяцев назад
Love how brian just pushed a side the illegal gambling site 😂
@gee-fe2sq
@gee-fe2sq 10 месяцев назад
“You should get a betting app where you’re restrictedwhen you become a premier league player” What? 😂
@Jay-sm2mh
@Jay-sm2mh 10 месяцев назад
Bro exactly. How tf is that going to fix anything?
@darkwhale-og9ig
@darkwhale-og9ig 10 месяцев назад
yeah that was one of the truly most idiotic things I have ever heard from anyone anywhere
@callum4871
@callum4871 10 месяцев назад
Brian’s out here enabling addicts 😂
@TheTurkeyFish15
@TheTurkeyFish15 10 месяцев назад
Milan didn't want to sell Tonali, but they needed money to rebuild the squad, and out of the star players they thought he was the one they could sacrifice, hes gone and milan are still about where they were. Milan ideally wouldn't have wanted to sell and tonali wouldn't have wanted to join, but compromises had to be made, there was conspiracy, just unfortunate of newcastle
@anthonylafleur6549
@anthonylafleur6549 10 месяцев назад
Exactly, Newcastle wanted Tonali and our club used the money from the sale in order to reinvest in the squad in order to compete in 3 competitions.
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 10 месяцев назад
If he's broke the law he's lucky if he's not in prison
@jamesbothoms6009
@jamesbothoms6009 10 месяцев назад
No rich person goes to prison in Italy
@nathanmoore7120
@nathanmoore7120 10 месяцев назад
@@jamesbothoms6009not true.
@jamesbothoms6009
@jamesbothoms6009 10 месяцев назад
@@nathanmoore7120 duh? Obviously there are rare exceptions, but the general point still stands that the Italian justice system has a reputation for being susceptible to being swayed by way of brown envelopes of cash. More importantly why does the OP think someone betting by any means is worthy of a custodial sentence? By their own logic they should be locked up and the key thrown away for writing stupid things in internet comments sections
@kathchandler4919
@kathchandler4919 10 месяцев назад
These rules are football rules not Civil Law rules
@ashleyw6728
@ashleyw6728 10 месяцев назад
@@kathchandler4919 they are in Italy
@callumthfc5966
@callumthfc5966 10 месяцев назад
They are deleting comments
@jordanb966
@jordanb966 10 месяцев назад
Something that Merson said that really opens your eyes is what if a lower league player who ain’t earning the 100k wages these players are on wants to come out and ask for help, they would lose there job and ruin their life and who knows that what that player would do, there needs to be a way to help these players instead of just banning them, there’s probably addicts in the league right now using football as an escape from that
@jacknelson927
@jacknelson927 10 месяцев назад
So your opinion then don’t punish them for gambling all their money away breaking numerous rules then stop defend this stuff and call this out ya muppet you gamble you break the rules suffer the consequences then don’t complain about being caught out and take accountability for it no excuses cards it’s a choice
@jordanb966
@jordanb966 10 месяцев назад
@@jacknelson927 he betted in illegal casinos and betted on his own team to win…he’s hardly murdered someone, Toneys was much worse yet tonali’s facing a longer punishment…I’d rather the fa actually help players with addiction instead of tossing them to one side, if Suarez only gets banned for 8 games for racism then this should be less🤷🏼‍♂️
@jacknelson927
@jacknelson927 10 месяцев назад
Help him yes but hope he gets punished too no excuses punish him break the rules suffer the consequences he should be punished too not let off with it
@nathanmoore7120
@nathanmoore7120 10 месяцев назад
@@jordanb966yeah but this is much worse!
@jordanb966
@jordanb966 10 месяцев назад
@@nathanmoore7120 no it’s not, the punishment id rather see players get is give them a ban but send them to rehabilitation and once the rehab people say they’ve overcame the addiction and in a better space then make the ban shorter, give the players something to better themselves for, if they break gambling rules again then give them a guaranteed 3 year ban🤷🏼‍♂️
@farakhhanif
@farakhhanif 10 месяцев назад
Every sport should make a rule that you can’t bet on your own sport. So footballers, regardless of which league they play in, can’t under any circumstances bet on football games. It doesn’t matter whether they’re club games or international games.
@ajk1312
@ajk1312 10 месяцев назад
It's amazing how celebrities can just hide behind (valid) things like addiction & mental health to completely avoid accountability for their actions, and people just lap it up & let it happen every time
@MrLadiesman216
@MrLadiesman216 10 месяцев назад
Its annoying that we’re probably gonna lose him for the rest of this season & possibly into next,but the rules are clear & if you break them,you get punished. A year would be harsh,but it’ll probably be a similar length to fagioli’s ban.
@Numberoneiosgameplay
@Numberoneiosgameplay 10 месяцев назад
In my opinion if a footballer is betting on games that they're affecting and throwing them, then yes the punishment should be very harsh. But if a they're just betting in general on other unrelated matches or on themselves to win, yes they need professional help but I think the punishment should be far less severe
@hazelryner8778
@hazelryner8778 10 месяцев назад
It's still cloudy as some athletes across sports talk. It's insider dealing a bit. If I know an injury before a line moves one way or another, I have an advantage over Joe schmoe. Id prefer a full stop no betting, and a separation from betting website money.
@EnlightenedTurtle
@EnlightenedTurtle 10 месяцев назад
Double standards here.. If he is an addict he should probably retire or get help on his lengthy ban.
@yeahyeah9869
@yeahyeah9869 10 месяцев назад
Why??? You're just jealous he's rich and have a promising future
@ultimategamer8330
@ultimategamer8330 10 месяцев назад
Yup
@TonyTynebridge
@TonyTynebridge 10 месяцев назад
Retire? Eh? 😂
@CascadeCFC
@CascadeCFC 10 месяцев назад
ah the classic "you're jelly argument" lol@@yeahyeah9869
@TheSauxyFxcker
@TheSauxyFxcker 10 месяцев назад
@@yeahyeah9869 quite normal to be jealous of that tbf lol
@daltonsikhosana8275
@daltonsikhosana8275 10 месяцев назад
That Chelsea geezer is spot on. There’s addiction and degenerate. Both need help but both should be held accountable. Nobody wakes up as a gambling addict either, it starts somewhere and that start is very much a conscious decision.
@chriswhite1761
@chriswhite1761 10 месяцев назад
As an opposition player you could get tonali to make certain bets against the team he is playing against. Works that way too. Hes done wrong. He knows it We all know it
@od9694
@od9694 10 месяцев назад
Wtf is there to be angry about this is the clearest breach of rules ive ever seen
@JaiminRehal
@JaiminRehal 10 месяцев назад
Tonali was not homegrown they bought him from Brescia
@philip244
@philip244 10 месяцев назад
But he is a Milan fan since a kid
@PsYcHoSiS11
@PsYcHoSiS11 10 месяцев назад
I don't think these guys know anything about Tonali at Milan bc he wasn't "Mr Milan" lmao
@paulestlin4357
@paulestlin4357 10 месяцев назад
If anyone bets on their own team to lose, whether they are playing or not, they should be banned for a long time. The reason they are making that bet is because they have seen the way their teammates are training or are aware of an injury. If they were betting on the stock market using that kind of inside information, they'd end up in prison.
@andyh323
@andyh323 10 месяцев назад
He was betting on his team to win, so what's your point?
@irsyadasyrafmohamad9784
@irsyadasyrafmohamad9784 10 месяцев назад
Im just saying for this tonali case,the only W one is ac milan.they get 50m and they are cruising in serie A very well...
@Howyanow
@Howyanow 10 месяцев назад
When you take a big punt and you’re banned for 10 months, that’s tonali
@rogoth01themasterwizard11
@rogoth01themasterwizard11 10 месяцев назад
something i want to point out, the Chelsea fan who's all like 'well how can you tell' blah blah, there are a multitude of different tests that can be performed to determine whether someone has an addiction or not, and they are pretty robust, this is not something where someone can just be 'yeah i did it because I'm addicted to gambling' when in reality they aren't, it's very difficult to actually fake the behaviours and the patterns exhibited by addicts as a NON-addict, and anybody who claims otherwise clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. not to go in too hard on the lad, but the sheer amount of ignorance on show here for some of this is astounding, and while i don't expect everybody to know everything a subject before making any sort of video discussing the topic, you should at least have done a LITTLE external reading and educate yourself on the basics first before talking out your arse, surely?
@kattphatt
@kattphatt 10 месяцев назад
City did their homework and Paqueta was put on hold until this case against him gets clarified. Newcastle have the exact same capability, why didn't they?
@nathanmoore7120
@nathanmoore7120 10 месяцев назад
I think Newcastle should be punished for not doing the correct background checks. Newcastle should lose points for their despicable behaviour.
@kattphatt
@kattphatt 10 месяцев назад
@@nathanmoore7120 lmao, nothing like that :'))
@jamesbothoms6009
@jamesbothoms6009 10 месяцев назад
I get what Brian is saying though, these offences occurred when he was a Milan player, yet it’s Newcastle who are going to end up being punished as a consequence.
@himself000
@himself000 10 месяцев назад
You just cant maintain an addiction that contradicts your profession in any walks of life. Even if you drive a vehicle for work on basic wages, you couldn't be forgiven for having an alcohol addiction. His gambling addiction and profession are directly linked therefore its totally unacceptable and he should know it.
@rocktheqasbah
@rocktheqasbah 10 месяцев назад
Part of any addicts deciding to go into recovery is that they did something and that resulted in them being accountable. Assuming he's an addict, if he gets a less harsh punishment what's the incentive to change?
@rohanfarrell
@rohanfarrell 10 месяцев назад
It’s the betting companies snitching. Stop betting altogether
@JackBurton3963
@JackBurton3963 10 месяцев назад
If Trippier gets injured that’s a massive blow…look at his insane stats and influence on the team. Newcastle had to sign Livramento, who is brilliant…MOTM against City in the cup and he is ready to perform to high levels when called upon.
@bg22757
@bg22757 10 месяцев назад
I think any footballer who is knowingly taking such risks gambling on football is likely to be an addict. Risking such a lucrative career otherwise doesn't make much sense. Merson is wrong though, if he is an addict he has to take responsibility for his actions. It explains his gambling, but doesn't excuse it. Just for context, i was a terrible compulsive gambler, but you can't just excuse that kind of behavior.
@jarodpietersen3913
@jarodpietersen3913 10 месяцев назад
What a shocker... a Newcastle player getting defended on this show. Was it a United player Gordie would want them thrown in a vat of acid.
@garygarrygaarry
@garygarrygaarry 10 месяцев назад
He might have used some naughty words, but 'thrown in a vat of acid' might be a bit much. 🤔😂
@oscaracosta9394
@oscaracosta9394 10 месяцев назад
He wouldn’t have this mental illness If he never started gambling in the first place
@TheSarge21
@TheSarge21 10 месяцев назад
When you are facing a 4 year prison sentence, taking a plea deal which means you avoid prison time but get a ban from football is NOT a harsh sentence. If AC Milan knew, then I dont blame them for selling him. It was on Newcastle to do their due diligence.
@bole3019
@bole3019 10 месяцев назад
The FA needs to introduce a way for players to admit to having a gambling addiction where they can receive help, would then be no excuses if they are caught
@ralphpanyin6669
@ralphpanyin6669 10 месяцев назад
Do you guys forget that City didn't buy Paquetà because they did their due diligence?
@adamhollland6426
@adamhollland6426 10 месяцев назад
People who work for the FA in a office job can’t put a £5 acca on and your trying to act like Tonali has been hard done by for betting on his own team 🤣 they all know the rules
@pevvex4452
@pevvex4452 10 месяцев назад
One year ban it’s not enough stop. Betting on illegal sites proves he knew what he was doing. He broke the law and he broke the contract rules. He should be punished for a few years. Has example for young players..
@Jgarthebeast
@Jgarthebeast 10 месяцев назад
No football player should be betting on football and it doesnt matter if its for his team to win or not. A player could easily convince his friend to throw a game to win big on a bet, without him being "tracked" for placing the bet himself. It should be a clear ban to the most degree every time and cases should not be individualized.
@mfjosh6422
@mfjosh6422 10 месяцев назад
Apparently two Serbs showed up at Juve’s training center asking for Nicolò Fagioli, these illegal apps were from Eastern Europe and not licensed anywhere in Europe… also these loan sharks told Fagioli that they’ll break his legs if he didn’t pay up 😳😱 he cried after he got subbed off the Sassuolo game last szn cause off all the debts he had accumulated
@lukeaubrey5392
@lukeaubrey5392 10 месяцев назад
Brian come on man tonali needs same ban as toney didnt toney have like 200 something bets if that aint addict what is
@Rusty_119
@Rusty_119 10 месяцев назад
Toney should have been banned and fined no more than 3 months. We’re all men get on with it stop crying
@Samweak
@Samweak 10 месяцев назад
He’s worse than Toney, he has to be punished more than him. Addiction or not it’s not an excuse.
@Iteisenhauer
@Iteisenhauer 10 месяцев назад
@@Samweakdidn’t Toney deny it at first then back tracked? tonali admitted it so that should be involved more then if he’s addict or not
@Skiiman24
@Skiiman24 10 месяцев назад
@@Samweakhow’s it worse toney bet on his own team to lose actually know what your talking about before commenting you nugget
@Hdb77778
@Hdb77778 9 месяцев назад
The reason they claim addiction is because in general labour laws internationally, addiction is seen as an incapacity issue and thus a no fault issue. For example alot of employees who are caught under the influence of alcohol and charged for misconduct claim alcoholism because than there's an argument that the employer should help them with their addiction before just dismissing. Think the footballers try the same argument. "I'm an addiction so how can you ban me."
@stefanholmes9433
@stefanholmes9433 10 месяцев назад
Agreed people need help who need it. However, there has to be repercussions as betting on games that he can affected directly by the player betting on it. That’s corruption.
@jamiep3821
@jamiep3821 10 месяцев назад
It's a rule, the same as doping. If a player says they're addicted to drugs, do you just let it go?
@gravityperformance2356
@gravityperformance2356 10 месяцев назад
Why don’t they have a 3-6 month rehabilitation course instead of a ban. You could do 3 month ban running alongside a 6 month mandatory rehabilitation course. If not attended then it’s a years ban.
@TheInternationalist
@TheInternationalist 10 месяцев назад
"klopps complaining about a wrongfully disallowed goal and the overal problem with epl refs? he should get over it" I personally dont feel tonalli deserves this. But Brian does.
@jordigodden
@jordigodden 10 месяцев назад
Just to put it out there, Tonali was supposedly only betting on Milan to win their games
@philip244
@philip244 10 месяцев назад
how’s that illegal
@chrissmith3668
@chrissmith3668 10 месяцев назад
I’m an alcoholic. I’ve been sober awhile. Your addiction isn’t your fault but it is your responsibility to find the help.
@kylehampton379
@kylehampton379 10 месяцев назад
Lol if TG looked at the punishment athletes of other sports received for gambling, especially on their team, he would gladly accept the 1 year ban
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 10 месяцев назад
Those Chinese snooker players that just copped bans, and Stephen Lee who was basically banned for life about ten years ago.
@alexmaggs3461
@alexmaggs3461 10 месяцев назад
If a smackhead robs you, you'd want them punished regardless of addiction issues
@cfacts_the_evil_genius
@cfacts_the_evil_genius 10 месяцев назад
Can’t believe what I’m hearing! A psychologist stated Ivan Toney is a gambling addict. Why should Tonali get any less?
@dj44640
@dj44640 10 месяцев назад
are u serious discussing this??????? the man is able to FIX games on the pitch with his actions..... jeeeeez
@mun_7857
@mun_7857 10 месяцев назад
Thought the lad in the blue shirt was Edin Dzeko for a second
@NZGeordieBogan
@NZGeordieBogan 10 месяцев назад
Regardless of if its Toney or Tonali or anyone else, the rules have been broken, a ban should be handed out and that be that. But everyone wants differing levels of raking across the coals to appease their interests, where in a perfect world , justice should be served with his their punishments not with public condemnation as well, especially considering addiction and mental health.
@dilan4123
@dilan4123 10 месяцев назад
Course TG would find a way to flip this because Tonali is a Newcastle player. Think these RU-vidrs need to get demonetised whenever they are hypocritical or flip flop. Watch how many of them would stop
@chamoovanspurs3796
@chamoovanspurs3796 10 месяцев назад
Brian saying there’s no difference between betting on an illegal website and a legal gambling site. Cmon bruh 😂
@g.n.b9197
@g.n.b9197 10 месяцев назад
It's hilarious to me that footballers get punished for gambling yet football is heavily sponsored by gambling companies. How can you be a drug dealer and be upset when your kids start doing drugs, that hypocrisy is actual comedy.
@jessicanoble694
@jessicanoble694 10 месяцев назад
Lads can you do the kickoff tonight as Newcastle United doing the champions league
@danielnicholson4660
@danielnicholson4660 10 месяцев назад
Honeslty people saying tonali was our best Player before we aolw him to Newcastle is borderline delusional
@soberveganhipster
@soberveganhipster 10 месяцев назад
Yes, he should be banned, because a precedent has been set and there are rules in place. He should also get help provided by either his club or the league, but if you can't do the time....
@EssJay11
@EssJay11 10 месяцев назад
He didn’t just ‘say’ he has an addiction, he has been medically diagnosed with a mental illness being Gambling Addiction, by doctors and medical professionals
@nathanmoore7120
@nathanmoore7120 10 месяцев назад
You mean doctors paid off to say that! Come on, we are talking about the Italians here! This was all done to protect him, he knew what he was doing, he was using illegal betting sites for goodness sake! If someone was a drug addict and they robbed someone house, but they turned round in court and said, “but I have seen the doctor about my addiction prior to robbing that house” he should be let off??? Come on, think about what you are saying, man! This is the problem with people today, they don’t have the ability to think critically.
@jamesnewstead7099
@jamesnewstead7099 10 месяцев назад
The crucial dilemma is was he betting on himself or against himself if he is betting on himself no harm no foul at all, if he is betting against himself then ban him immediately
@archiewall124
@archiewall124 10 месяцев назад
Wdym ‘no harm no foul’? You aren’t allowed to bet regardless, it’s against the rules. This dilemma you’ve created is in your head not reality at all.
@17scottymufc
@17scottymufc 10 месяцев назад
That guy saying they can have a bet and should have an app, with the money they can put on and possibly win, do they not think agents can influence other footballers in other matches to get yellows and things like that? Mates playing for other clubs and things. Wake up
@TheIrulex
@TheIrulex 10 месяцев назад
Tonali has just won another bet. He said I bet TG does a supporting podcast on me.
@oke9797
@oke9797 10 месяцев назад
Toney bet against his own team on 13 occasions. That obviously ruins the integrity of the game. Idk why players can’t bet on matches they’re not involved in though
@BillyBufter
@BillyBufter 10 месяцев назад
The representing club at the time of the offence should particularly be liable.. I think it's nothing to do with nufc, and Milan would and will likely know of it
@paulcasey4282
@paulcasey4282 10 месяцев назад
If someone had kleptomania, that doesn’t mean the their should get off scot free. Tonali should face heavy punishment but should be given help and rehab so he doesn’t repeat his rule breaks. I’m strongly against banning him from all football activity including training as that doesn’t seem healthy but he should be banned from playing professionally for ~12 months
@TomKenyon1878
@TomKenyon1878 10 месяцев назад
HAHAHAHHAHA UNLUCKYYYYYYY YOUVE BEEN ROBBED
@TonyTynebridge
@TonyTynebridge 10 месяцев назад
Hell ccome back even better after his ban only 23 and people are still wanting to buy Toney after his
@TomDeLaCruz
@TomDeLaCruz 10 месяцев назад
do u think he bet on ac milan to win against newcastle in their champions league match?
@brianalmeida1964
@brianalmeida1964 10 месяцев назад
One thing that never got mentioned on this video is that footballers are free to gamble on other sports. So why gamble on football? To gamble on football, players either use illegal betting site or go-betweens to place bets for them. This sounds like there is more than just an addiction problem. There appears to be a thrill seeking aspect about wrongdoing too!
@jay2586j
@jay2586j 10 месяцев назад
All gambling websites are illegal in Italy. Skybet is illegal in Italy.
@jfkers90
@jfkers90 10 месяцев назад
As a Newcastle fan he should 100% be banned, but I believe the financial fine should be heavy on the player and he should be banned in the country that he was betting in. It’s just such a grey area as Newcastle as a club are getting punished for a year for something that didn’t happen during his time playing for Newcastle or even in a England 🤷🏼‍♂️
@thethinkingmansmoron
@thethinkingmansmoron 10 месяцев назад
In major league baseball, he'd get a lifetime ban. A LIFETIME BAN! This is a pittance comparatively.
@leechefski
@leechefski 10 месяцев назад
The breakdown of punishment could be better, i think. As Brian said; footballer's careers are short, and multi year bans are exessive and lead to innocent parties (eg: Newcastle and Brentford) also being punished. In Tonali's case, on top of the ban, he got a 20,000 euro fine. WTF? That's barely 2 days salary! He did wrong and needs to be punished, of course, but i feel a short sharp shock would be more effective and also allow the Italian FA to swing their dicks and make a statement; a multi-million euro fine and a month in prison, for example.
@denniswaweru9340
@denniswaweru9340 10 месяцев назад
Addict or no addict, he broke the law. he has to serve the time. We gave Toney that treatment, give Tonali the same. PERIOD!!!
@kizmutyaba4965
@kizmutyaba4965 10 месяцев назад
Theres a fucking addiction for everything
@timmy5876
@timmy5876 10 месяцев назад
You can’t legally bet until ur 18, at age 18 he must’ve known he was gonna be a pro cus he would’ve been in a top academy (i’m assuming he was at ac milan then). I get he could bet on horse racing and stuff like that but if he’d never bet on football i don’t see how he’d be addicted to that specifically, one day he’d have to choose to start and that’s why he’s been banned
@goldstoneghost2861
@goldstoneghost2861 10 месяцев назад
Massive loses to bookmakers by sportsmen leave them wide open to being offered a way to repay those loses by directly influencing matches they play in. Zaniolo was allegedly in debt to the sum of €3m
@BillyBufter
@BillyBufter 10 месяцев назад
As a nufc fan I think a 7 month ban is suitable.. Thats what they dished out to the other Italian where the crime was committed.. I think it's fair to say most Italian players are at it.. Its part and parcel with the game unfortunately. They need to stamp out the corruption
@andywaterworth4570
@andywaterworth4570 10 месяцев назад
If you got a lesser ban for saying you are an addict, everyone who gets caught, they will be an addict! You cannot tell who isnt an addict and who is. He only admitted he had a problem when he got caught. Geordie has a horse in this race because its Newcastle. He got other people to bet for him, that goes against most betting companies rules.
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