True wireless IEMs for 'MUSIC-FIRST' audiophiles (Campfire Orbit review)

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@Kenny-Somafunk Год назад

They remind of my grans hearing aid.

@dilbyjones Год назад

Damn straight.

@SalfordRedDevil Год назад

Beige is a great colour for any product, said nobody ever. Thanks John, good video and info as always.

@socksforllamas Год назад

Doesn’t matter if they are the greatest-sounding headphones in the world, if they don’t stay connected consistently, that’s a non-starter.

@Rory626 Год назад

Absolutely agree. Top priority with comfort a close second. If they don't stay connected and aren't nice to wear, the audio quality is irrelevant. Nobody will use them

@dilbyjones Год назад

New term : “ non-starter”..lol well somewhat new. 😂🎉

@MrMrpony Год назад

I thought the issue was they stay connected too much 😂 Not sure if he specified Olaf’s issues

@derekng8454 Год назад

Personally I had no connection issues with the Orbit, I've got a Pixel 6 pro and it connects at almost the same speed as the pixel buds pro

@michaelsnook9257 8 месяцев назад

@@dilbyjonesHamilton

@zap... 6 месяцев назад

I love that you're listening to the orb.

@asan1050 Год назад

Thanks!

@boydcummings6559 Год назад

Bought these when they first came out and promptly returned them. A couple of months later I purchased them again. I love them and primarily I use them around the house. My second pair seem to be free of the strange problems I had at first. I use my AirPods for work and phones calls and listening to guys thousands of miles away from me talk about headphone. :).

@DavidHorth Год назад

Thanks John, been looking forward to you reviewing these. Seems like a good first attempt from Campfire but as you say, needs improvement. I'll wait for the 2.0.

@darreng279 Год назад

These IEMs are the bomb

@papigrande4378 Год назад

Liberty 4 absolutely support wireless charging. I use it all the time.

@tigerfish66 Год назад

Comply Memory Foam tips are great for large ear canals......

@RichardDowd Год назад

Sounds like we need Orbit2 asap!

@digdees Год назад

Love my Orbits, had the same issue regarding connecting to my phone, but this, along with the app can easily be resolved with future firmware/app updates. I was lucky to have a pair of Comply Foam tips that fit my Orbits, once I put these on, they are stunning to my ears

@slicktricks88 Год назад

Yeah. I’m sure the consultant who works a few hours a month for Campfire is diligently working on that. This is way out of their area of expertise. Should have done a collab with an actual electronics company. I love my CA’s but this kind of product is made by a different kind of company.

@mikejp8547 Год назад

BT connectivity issues, they don’t make a good in ear seal, EQ sometimes doesn’t work and they look like Grandmas hearing aids from the 70s/80s. All this can be yours for the premium price of $250. What a deal!

@menschmaschine7808 Год назад

Nice Video

@salreda7470 Год назад

Try the CF audio tips. Marshmallow Foam Tips (Red+Blue)

@zachbenson9548 Год назад

I use the provided foam tips which solved the problem for me. It's definitely a quirky iem especially in regards to connectivity but I'm liking them a lot. If I could add 1 feature it would be auto-pause when you remove them from the ear. I can't do ANC (it gives me a headache) so I hope to see some more products like this in the future.

@daren4695 6 месяцев назад

Ive got a pair of these and love them, yes the colour is a bit "meh" and like something that belongs in an old peoples home. But the sound "to me" is great, detailed, open and great soundstage, with good bass ( via the wavelet app) I use final audio E-tips and find them a perfect seal, and they don't come loose or out completely when running or moving around. Ive not had any issues with the Campfire app but I only use it for updates etc and I don't use the equaliser, for that I use Wavelet equaliser app and it works perfectly for tuning the sound, and how YOU would like it.

@mrfrosty3 Год назад

I always have to use the foam tips with Campfire IEMs, with Final E types and other silicone tips, they can seal too well in my ears and I end up with either a vacuum or pressure build up which kills the sound, I have to keep breaking the seal for them to sound right. The included marshmallow tips fix that problem. I may try the Orbit, lately I've been getting a bit fed up of IEM cables.

@TubeSomeYou 11 месяцев назад

These could be for me, but I am very uncertain about the wireless connectivity issues.

@michaelzoltan7988 Год назад

Du bist so Wunderbar Berlin ...

@TorToroPorco Год назад

I've always liked the passive noise reduction from Etymotic earphones although their eartips aren't everyone's cup of tea. I found that they do a pretty good job even on noisy subway platforms. It's a shame that I never really liked their sound signature. Looks like I may have to try out the Orbits as I have average canal ears.

@pauljordan3828 Год назад

Great review , definitely interested in these , Would like a follow up video to see if a firmware update fixed the pairing issue and if you found some good aftermarket tips that solved the fit issue , thanks John

@salreda7470 Год назад

Marshmallow Foam Tips (Red+Blue)

@rossmiller6554 Год назад

Great review. Definitely sounds like these are a “wait for the second iteration” iem. Those connectivity issues are a no go for me.

@AndrewWardell Год назад

2:49 I get the same issue with the Final Audio ZE3000 from time-to-time…Speaking of, Final do a wireless Type-E tip.

@moonlightfilms5279 Год назад

I personally want a pair just for my windows pc I use for software development, I use AirPods Pro 2 with my iPhone and Mac and for working out, but like to have a separate set just for my pc. Currently I’m using Beats Studio buds with my pc but would prefer better audio quality and wireless charging

@salreda7470 Год назад

Sound is amazing

@artemario7116 Год назад

Interesting comparison, especially with regard to its musical quality. That these headphones make us doubt whether or not to use wired headphones is something very interesting.

@abhigyanvyas6381 Год назад

Will you also take a look the new 64Audio x ifi IEM's? They're not "lesser known" or strictly speaking a traditional TWS set, but the ifi adapter seems really great!

@filipepaninho6558 Год назад

I'll keep my Sennheiser True Wireless... look good, sound great, has EQ, good BT connection and calls ;)

@simonfortin9232 Год назад

May I suggest to try the 1 more evo. There must be very comparable to those reviews.

@cielo_ciel_ Год назад

ah i am curious about what your take on the final ze8000 would be.

@christopherwright8179 Год назад

They look like hearing aids did way back in the day. Perhaps it’s just the colour of them!

@Unicorn-ST Год назад

An interesting comment from Jon is that sometimes passive cancelation could be as good or better than active one. I totally agree, the sound is more natural. The only active cancellatio real advantage from my side is that is possible to deactivate to listen external sounds if ypu need it without take out the earphones.

@andrewmcintosh2703 Год назад

You can do that better with Ambient. No need for ANC at all.

@SlowRkers 11 месяцев назад

How does this compare to B&W Pi7 S2?

@iu1191 Год назад

I would love to know how you feel the sound compares to the Sennheiser Momentum 3 TW. The Sennheiser has all the ANC smarts and some incredible sound quality. Which did you enjoy the listing more. Note I am not asking which is better but specifically your opinion - because with good items - it really depends on so much, as you were saying - the seal ANd the design of the drivers, the tips, and lots of other things - so I am really asking about your experience rather than which is "Objectively better". Love this series, by the way. I asked before, but not sure if yous have seen it - Have you come across the Bang an Olufsen H95 headphones? I am especially interested in your thoughts compared to the Bowers and Wilkins Px8 you reviewed. Similar price and audience I think. I would love to know how you fare with those. Great vid, as usual. The comment section is always juicy!!

@NickBR57 Год назад

I get the Bluetooth reconnection issue with my Souncores. I frequently wonder why there's no sound and then find the phone has connected to the Souncores, still sitting in their case.

@aperson1836 Год назад

Do you or any commenter have any insight on how podcasts/audiobooks sound with the orbits?

@adrianfield3662 Год назад

I too struggle with IEM fit, the only tips i can find that fit my Melomania 1+ are a pair of twin flange tips with the small flange cut off. I have other tips that fit my ears, but they don't fit in the case.

@ZigUncut Год назад

Have you tried the memory foam tips? There are official ones and some much better ones from Comply (T600). Not only do they fit snug as a bug but they also do a fantastic job of blocking external noise. I've been using these on a pair of CA Honey dews. Lovely.

@tonyjohnson3752 Год назад

Ok large ear canal listeners: I need the largest eartip out there for my campfire and ibasso iems. Final Audio does not make a big enough one. My current solution is using Westone Orange foam tips, prying out their narrow inner tube and stuffing the inner tube of a Final E tip. I'd love to find an off the shelf option. Is a custom mould the only option?

@teachonlywhatiseasy Год назад

did you try the new moondrop TWS that everyone is raving about

@pauljordan3828 Год назад

I have heard that they have a lot of head room if your a loud listener

@alessi808 Год назад

Hi John, pairing in the Campfire App is only possible when the music is playing

@DarkoAudio Год назад

Yep. I’m aware. Remember: I have two pairs.

@iuricolomiet5576 Год назад

Libery 4 support wireless charging!

@gilbertwashburn7095 Год назад

Thanks for another great video I'm going to probably check those out I'm a headphone guy but I'm going to probably get some earbuds them look like they're good and you recommended them so I'll check them out have a great day

@TheWoozieBear Год назад

Noble Fokus Mystique on deck?

@theb4r138 Год назад

Neat. I’m still not sold on wireless. I don’t like the idea of the battery not being able to hold a charge after a few years and having to just chuck them in the bin when that happens.

@ryanjofre Год назад

I got some refurbished JBL Live free nc+ TWS for $30.00 shipped. I’m very happy for the rock bottom price. The noise canceling is a lesson in mediocrity but I knew that going in from reviews. They’re not horrible or super comfortable. On my left ear they’re like bad acupuncture @ times. One popped out without warning once so I wouldn’t trust them for a bike ride. The app works well to control EQ.

@guillermoleniz2740 Год назад

Please, review a pair of beoplay ex!!

@adamkelly8537 Год назад

Where I live the garbage trucks are painted in those two shades

@dilbyjones Год назад

Ok one last time : have they tested the battery after 130 degrees? I hope the batteries are replaceable. 😢

@kevinkarlsson7440 Год назад

How are these music sound quality-wise vs the Apple and Sennheiser?

@DarkoAudio Год назад

In a word: better.

@anthonyberryman3443 Год назад

But not has good as Noble Fokus Mystic.

@stephencosta6814 Год назад

They look like an HNK pistol in the desert Sarah coat finish, matches my gun sort of a 70s vibe

@dictabeat 7 дней назад

would you mind adding EU links to your videos as well? I feel your content is often very useful, but having to search around from us and UK stores and back trace it to eu dealers often is extra work that could be fixed if you add an eu link or even a german amazon link. Great content though. Thanks!

@laika25 Год назад

Quite cheap, if you ask me. (Considering Campfire's outrageous prices...)

@zlevelx Год назад

Andromeda (2018,2019,2020 editions) is the main if not only iem worth its $1099 price (emerald sea $1450 idk if its good) from campfire everything else you're better off looking elsewhere

@user-wr5we2xg6h Год назад

Cheap but very low quality

@chael091169 5 месяцев назад

This review just killed the "Orbit"...

@aebisdecunter 3 месяца назад

You might say, it deorbited them

@crisrodcavill Год назад

Can you prove the B&O EX? We would like to know your thoughts

@alexwillats Год назад

The B&O EX sound amazing for wireless IEMs but have terrible ANC…It’s non-existent. All that quality audio is lost without decent ANC in noisy environments. AirPod Pros 2 on the go for me and wired IEMs at home.

@walterdel5490 Год назад

Ok, who will buy this after hearing this review? Campfire should have waited rather than releasing an MVP.

@oli5120 Год назад

Maybe the Moondrop Spring Tips could be the tips you are looking for.

@EdKognito Год назад

Why this color? Why???

@slicktricks88 Год назад

Why any colour? Have you seen what Andromedas look like after a few years? I have only owned stainless steel Campfires.

@RichardDowd Год назад

Reminds of old skool earing aids!

@Crustycon23 Год назад

They may be PEEK, which alongside Ultem (PEI) is all the rage in the high end scenes of other niche hobbies. If they are PEEK they’ll be durable AF. Which would be great if the buggers worked 😂

@stevoc123 Год назад

Shame the look like 1980s nhs hearing aids

@raytheonbuna1021 Год назад

that's exactly what attracts me to them.

@krypt Год назад

But you can’t see them if they are in your ears 😂

@ibassnote Год назад

Definitely a bit of a Minecraft look about them. Too bad they’re not what I would have hoped.

@Robert.Dickson Год назад

More like a NHS hearing aid look.

@Robert.Dickson Год назад

With regards to being connected whilst they are in the case. I had terrible trouble with a pair of RHA Truconnect’s which done the same thing. Very annoying.

@danielik8 Год назад

but why they have those pistachio colours?!

@likeris2 Год назад

what about B&O?

@Edward135i 3 месяца назад

If you want a True wireless IEM that is really good get the Sony WF-1000XM5. They are the best True wireless IEM on the market right now, I know they aren't "audiophile" but I feel like True Wireless IEM's are almost in a different category from most IEM's because they have to do so many things well.

@gerritfridericksohn4627 2 месяца назад

Yeh if they keep working. I've had two in 9 months.

@ChrisWhittenMusic Год назад

The app should be a pretty quick and easy fix. The gotchas might not be too bad for me.

@informedchoice2249 7 месяцев назад

That massive nozzle would kill my ears, sadly.

@michaelsnook9257 8 месяцев назад

That’s the cheapest Bluetooth stuff they could have put in there

@xXloeffelsk8Xx Год назад

i think campfire has choosen the wrong buisiness end. i think a more premium true wireless lile maybe a 600 dollar iem in the quality range of a polaris 2 would have suited better. people buying campfire are more easely ready to put 600 follar plus on the table but therefore demand high quality

@richardforeman3523 Год назад

Too many “buts” … that’s a flat no from me. Can you have too many buts? 😂

@allansh828 Год назад

you've moved out of Germany?

@anomalousresult Год назад

He flits between his place in Germany and his place in Portugal.

@bpalpha Год назад

I loathe all of these individual ear bud bluetooth pieces. I've already found several floating around here and there in the gym I go to. My eighteen year old nephew lost his expensive apple ear buds approximately three months within getting them. Wireless headphones, yes. Earbuds, no.

@rupbhatt Год назад

I think you should check out Samsung Galaxy Buds 2 Pro. I think pure audio wise, it's the best TWS.

@NhatLinhNguyen82 9 месяцев назад

No it is not. I have it, i thought that they were very good until i got ZE3000 from Final Audio. Best TWE for me (I have Airport Pro, Oneplus Pro 2, Samsung Buds Pro 2...all very good, 2 drivers buds)

@antoinep9733 Год назад

🤢 Campfires are usually so aesthetically pleasing, but that beige plastic(?) is next-level hideous. They look like UV-damaged hearing aids from the 1970s.

@herrwarmduscher5204 Год назад

Color is super ugly. Enough for me to pass. I'll stick with B&W Pi7 & Sennheiser Momentum TW 3.

@adamkelly8537 Год назад

I know! Looks like one is doubling up on hearing aids

@konbonwa Год назад

The color reminds me of the beige case desktop computers of the 80s and the 90s. Nostalgic, but not in a good way.

@dilbyjones Год назад

Hopefully no one will want them ( more for me )

@chungang7037 Год назад

it looks like what sci-fi movies thought spaceships would look like in the 1970s

@ThompsonHarris-ud7dq Год назад

Certainly piqued my interest

@carydennis-or3pe Год назад

A little disappointed with that.

@laika25 Год назад

None of those iems stay put in my ears. Frustrating. (I have the Sennheiser's)

@szybkizenek6292 8 месяцев назад

No anc. Not good battery life. Poor app. No transparency. And still more expensive than flagship Sony Apple Pixels aor Bose. Tws are not all about sound

@orangedan5424 Год назад

Personally I think the anker still the best value to go. The camp fire is rubbish...IF you want the best all around including sound the final audio is better than the camp fire. Yes their anc may not be sony level but they are OK, and their app and connection still better than camp fire. I am sure the price too. I can get it for around $500 aus. Look and fit a lot cooler than camp-fire.

@salreda7470 Год назад

But the sound of the orbits are amazing

@orangedan5424 Год назад

@Sal Reda So? Have you heard the Final Audio? Besides IF you put all the bad things on camp fire together I don't think it's worth it. Sometime we have also to consider all the factors.

@REX4340 Год назад

Music First Audiophiles🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

@barneyrubble9309 Год назад

My experience with Campfire iems is that they are THE most overrated iems on the planet.

@theotherstevesteve Год назад

That is an entirely useless statement without details of what issues they presented.

@chungang7037 Год назад

Other than use in the gym or extreme portability, I never see the point of IEMs wired or otherwise for sound quality. They all sound the same to me, just different flavors of mediocre music production. These are ugly to boot!

@jas_bataille Год назад

What's with the comments? Don't people have other things to hate? You don't like them, fine. Geez. No need to say it's crap and their colour looks "damaged". People are not OK what's going on...!!! You don't want beige get something else. My God. Grow up. It's not worth being offended over a colour choice.

@carltoncotter2614 Год назад

I clicked off this video as soon as I saw the packaging and the colour.

@armo4594 27 дней назад

wireless IEM's are just a waste.

@dictabeat 7 дней назад

how do you reckon?

@likeris2 Год назад

ok its crap.

@lickmygloves Год назад

I just wasn't that impressed. If I'm going wireless it needs to have other features of convivence and I honestly preferred the sound of the second gen AirPods Pro (Apple User)

@foldspacenavigator6011 Год назад

Love most of their aesthetics and was hoping these would have had a better balanced & holistic performance and fit. If they can sort out what needs to be improved, hope they will also offer some other color choice as well. I still use a pair of wireless IEMs you reviewed a few years ago and I have experienced the same, well sealed IEMs can be better than adequate in many travel situations.