Truman Capote's SHOCKING Betrayal Of His Swans | FX 's FEUD Capote vs The Swans Explained

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The Season 2 FX show FEUD Capote VS The Swans portrays the real life story of the complex dynamics between Truman Capote and Capote's swans.
In this explanation documentary video, we bring you the real and true history behind popular TV shows and movies, past and present. In this video we will look at historical account of who Truman Capote was, how his life events compelled him to betray the women he befriended and uncover exactly what happened that culminated in the vehement FEUD that ruin peoples lives and destroyed his career.
Let me know in the comments what you think about why Truman Capote became the Judas to his high society friends and whether you think they should have forgiven him.
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@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

So let me know what you think? WHy do you think Capote betrayed his swans? Will be be forgiven? Should he be forgiven? We're in for a ride with this FX mini series! Let me know how you like it! Thanks for watching.

@ElizabethT45 8 месяцев назад

I can only guess that he thought it would be amusing? He thought the ladies would just shake their fingers and say 'Oh, Truman, you're so naughty."

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

He did seem to have a reliance on denial to avoid taking any responsibility. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@StressyStresss 8 месяцев назад

I think the swans loved him but they treated him like the court jester or a spoiled poodle. He wanted to be seen as an equal. He was furious at his mother for treating him like trash his whole life and took it out on the swans. Which was a shame. Babe pretty much adopted him.

@anthonycopian1298 8 месяцев назад

Truman betrayed b/c he was a writer and a writer uses what he knows to create. However he should've taken the secrets and twisted them in a way that would not be recognized by those he wrote about. He loved gossip and they all knew it. They gossiped among themselves and then he said F*K it I'll write about it all. He thought they would all laugh it off but the crushed him completely.

@constancedenchy9801 8 месяцев назад

He was a misogynistic narcissist

@markdwighttadina7655 7 месяцев назад

Truman's friendship and fallout with his swans is a proof that society has been toxic before social media came.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Good point! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@Iiwii11 7 месяцев назад

The reason people talk about social media is because it makes it so easy and immediate for people to tear each other down. Obviously people have always been awful.

@utube1412 7 месяцев назад

Social media gave the voice to create millions of Trumans.

@Shazzadut1 7 месяцев назад

But social media allows everyone to gossip about people of all levels of social standing. The swans wouldn’t have gossiped about Mrs Smith the butchers wife, because they wouldn’t have known her or have even met her. Now, it doesn’t matter if you know people or not, you can freely gossip about them on SM, hence constant threads on X about Kings, Queens, Princes, Princesses, Millionaires, Billionaires and Presidents that anyone can join in on. That’s what makes SM worse in my opinion.

@allinaday9882 7 месяцев назад

Your use of society is what? You mean the old definition, meaning the top 1%? And tell me what exactly “ social media “ consists of?

@gwenns.7261 8 месяцев назад

Babe Paley, his #1 swan and I believe his one truest friend, understandably ditched him but on her deathbed apparently asked for him. Now THAT is sad. They were a great support to each other and he threw it away.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

As I understand it Babe kind of discovered Capote and mentored him on how to blend with high society. He, in turn, became her confidant and friend....until he wasn't! Thanks for adding to the conversation!

@TheDriftwoodlover 7 месяцев назад

If that’s true, how sad she asked for him … unless it was to tell him off.

@6Haunted-Days 7 месяцев назад

Meh. These were rotten to the core women….who cares….wah wah wah poor wittle things. How sickening…..they’d be happy to be cruel to you no doubt, I’m gonna guess you haven’t dealt with the VERY rich much….or you’d feel little empathy. If they’re were such besties why’d he include HER? He didn’t have too.

@6Haunted-Days 7 месяцев назад

@@TheDriftwoodloveryou must be young. Honey when you’re old and at the end of your life….you ain’t telling people off like that. If she’d wanted to do that she had time aplenty to do it.

@Heyu7her3 7 месяцев назад

@@6Haunted-Days Eh... people have ample time to convert or confess as well, yet still wait til their deathbeds.

@happybkwrm 8 месяцев назад

Vanity. He thought he was untouchable.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I do believe you are right on. So sad for the women. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@missnellaful 7 месяцев назад

Vanity for narcissistic people in those times was an invitation to let him “change his protégé,” Capote was a flamboyant attention seeking narcissist. His manifestation of vocal indignity, made me sick- I as a young aspiring journalist, saw through this vile nonsense . His baby facedheld a filth of perversion that repulsed me and had I have gone into law enforcement. He would have been completely unable to expose the filth that he was desperate to share.

@missnellaful 7 месяцев назад

Vanity for narcissistic people in those times was an invitation to let him “change his protégé,” Capote was a flamboyant attention seeking narcissist. His manifestation of vocal indignity, made me sick- I as a young aspiring journalist, saw through this vile nonsense . His baby faced held a filth of perversion that repulsed me and had I have gone into law enforcement. He would have been completely unable to expose the filth that he was desperate to share.

@carolbradley4845 7 месяцев назад

All I can say is that these women way UNDERESTIMATED Truman Capote and he, in turn, way UNDERESTIMATED them! Great video! Thank you.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Well said, Thanksfor liking the video!

@Chefsandrajm 7 месяцев назад

Exactly

@sailid83doot 8 месяцев назад

He insinuated himself into the intimate thoughts and lives and of nearly everyone involved in the murder and apprehension that formed the basis of In Cold Blood. The success of that book without repercussions or blow back must have convinced him that he could do the same to the high society "swans". Turned out that wasn't the case.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

That a good analysis. #Thanks for joining the conversation!

@x3danimatos 8 месяцев назад

And some people say In Cold Bood was basically written by Harper Lee

@carolbradley4845 7 месяцев назад

@@x3danimatosoh really? I didn’t know that!

@x3danimatos 7 месяцев назад

@@carolbradley4845 yes, she was helping him with intreviews and throughout the whole process, then he made it look that he wrote all by himself. they were childhood friends, Dill from To Kill a Mockingbird was inspired by him, but after In Cold Blood they had a fall out.

@carrington2949 7 месяцев назад

I can’t find anything on Harper Lee mentioning the source of their falling out. I think she did a great deal to make that book what it is. She had an insight to people’s pain, that I do not think Capote could possibly grasp. He was a keen observer of society and its players but socially awkward in all other aspects.

@OdeInWessex 8 месяцев назад

Only a raging Narcissist would commit a heinous betrayal and then fully expect those he/she betrayed to grant immediate forgiveness.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Agreed. His complete denial that they wouldn't be hurt by what he did speaks to his psycholgy. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@christopherjohn9869 8 месяцев назад

I don’t know without “ le cote basque” Babe Paley Ann Woodward Slim Keith and company would have just faded into history. Capote Immortalized these ladies who lunched . Be honest would you know Who the F slim Keith or anyone of those women were without Truman Capote ?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I do think they would have made their mark without a man to highlight their lives.

@christopherjohn9869 8 месяцев назад

@@fabulouswomeninhistory sorry no way in hell would Demi Moore, Cloe Sevgney, Diane Lane, Calista Flockhart Molly Ringwald , etc etc. would be playing these women had it not been for Truman Capotes story. He immortalized Babe and Slim, Princess Lee Radziwill (Jackie O's sister) the "swans"" would have evaporated into history, for example Everyone (even straight men!) know who Anna Wintour is. Only Parsons Grads know who Dianna Vreeland was and she dictated the fashion of that era as editor of Vogue Magazine. In the end ,There is no difference between Le Cote Basque and The Devil Wears Prada . Except perhaps that LCB is well written.

@lowelldaniel5298 8 месяцев назад

Lol They were all raging Narcissists. Alcoholic and neurotic to boot. Capote was definitely in like company

@reidx512 8 месяцев назад

When I was very young, I can remember some of the women in my family, discussing them in part. I will say my great Aunt was a domestic in Ms. Guest home. She served most of her parties when she was in Palm Beach or North Florida, if I can recall this correctly.(also during Polo season) My freshman year in college (SMITH) one of the women that lived on my floor was distantly related to Barbara Hutton. Her stories were just wild and very sad. No one should ever be treated in print bad. May they all Rest In Peace and even him... It is just wrong!! Thank you for posting !!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for commenting and joining the conversation and for liking the video!

@susannah1066 8 месяцев назад

A therapist would probably say he sabotaged the relationships-before they could abandon him-Mommy issues.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I think so. Def mommey issues. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@chiendinh-je2xi 2 месяца назад

Disagree, ID issue

@JM-lw3nx 7 месяцев назад

turns out he was not really a friend at all and was known to spread stories and make fun of his swans to everyone around him.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@lupinedew 7 месяцев назад

You can't really forgive someone who isnt remorseful. And he wasn't sorry or asking for forgiveness... just to be let back into their lives. You cant have back whole what you brake into pieces. People can't forget even if they can forgive.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Well said. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@bh9225 7 месяцев назад

According to Capote he, from time to time, would tell the "swans" that he was going to write a book about them. He found their lives fascinating and he gave them warning after warning. Lesson: never tell a famous and talented writer your deep and dark secrets. RIP Truman Capote

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

You have a point. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@jewelcopeland8440 7 месяцев назад

He really was a back stabbing acquaintance.,this is before social media . I think many in their circle knew but having it in printed for all to see was a real betrayal. He was talented but didn't have a clue about friendship

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

He was always a gossip so you would think they would have known better. You make a good point. It was more real when they saw it in print. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@cobolsaurus 8 месяцев назад

I found the article on Esquire.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for reminding me. I posted the links for the original article "La Côte Basque, 1965” and the Mojave article in the community section of my channel for all to read. www.youtube.com/@fabulouswomeninhistory/community

@mart2020ful 8 месяцев назад

Is there any truth to the thought that Harper Lee did the research and might have really wrote " In cold blood " ?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

She had a big suppoting role in the book. You mighe like this article: www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/what-two-forgotten-pieces-tell-us-about-harper-lee

@peggypasson8794 7 месяцев назад

Idk I thought they had a dispute about to kill a mockingbird but it could of been in cold blood ?

@kathleenanne1718 7 месяцев назад

I noticed in last night's 3rd episode covering the Black/White Ball in the FX mini-series. The Ann Woodward character quotes Tennessee Williams line regarding deliberate cruelty being the only unforgivable sin and misattributes it to Capote as he throws her out of the B/W Ball, and Capote doesn't correct her. I wonder if that REALLY happened.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

I wondered as well and a quick search resulted in this article in which Gus Vazant admits to a large part of that espisode as fictionalized. www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/feud-capote-vs-the-swans-black-and-white-ball-episode-real-story-1235817223/

@kathleenanne1718 7 месяцев назад

That should be corrected before they put it out on video or streaming for consumption. It is one of the most famous lines from Streetcar Named Desire from its most famous character Blanche Dubois. I really miss the plays of Tennessee Williams. I think he was a much nicer person than Truman Capote. @@fabulouswomeninhistory

@jacky3580 7 месяцев назад

I have no idea why he thought he could write a book like that, unless he believed everyone knew parts of the stories already. I don’t discount the fury of all the men involved. There could’ve been repercussions for them. NY still had very narrow divorce laws, evidence of adultery could be very expensive. I suppose many of these people did charitable work and supported good causes but a life of dressing well, lunching, gossiping, and planning your next party had to be stupefying. BTW, what a loss all the publications where new authors could publish. Not to mention long form journalism and in-depth non fiction was available. I can think of 6 or 8 magazines no longer published today that had short stories, etc every issue. Newer isn’t always better. Was Capote a great writer? IMO, he was good, he definitely pealed back some of the vail on homosexuality. I notice none of his male friends are mentioned. Too bad he was an addict.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

People can still write books. I have quotes in the video from books that I used for research. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@dorrielove 7 месяцев назад

I think Capote as Brilliant as he was over estimated his Acquaintances. Even though his entire Life as a Gay man he was smeared and humiliated and had to turn the other cheek. Women tend to be to Vain & incapable of doing such a thing. It was all Literary to him whereas the Women took it personal. I have a Gay friend and didn’t speak to him for a while after he gossiped to someone I didn’t want to know about my inheritance which I told him in confidence. Eventually he reached out to me and we’ve spoken but it still isn’t the same. Now that all the Swans have passed on this can be a learning lesson for everyone. Cheers 🎉 thanks for sharing this video. I adore Truman and the photo I have of him with Marilyn Monroe in 1955 😊

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Good message. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@drdem00 8 месяцев назад

Truman didn't type ... He wrote in long hand ...

@wdw7374 7 месяцев назад

I feel that he was looking for a Mothers acceptance from them as his own Mother had so often abandoned him so maybe he was getting even with the Mother images in place of his actual Mother. Just a thought.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

I think you are spot on. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@graphite2786 7 месяцев назад

If you look at Capote's history, he was a nasty little rat. He burnt nearly every bridge, every friendship. What he did to Harper Lee was abhorrent, refusing to acknowledge all her help (6 yrs!) in researching "In Cold Blood" then attacking her out of jealousy when she was awarded a Pulitzer for "To kill a Mockingbird" even trying to claim credit as the author saying she was too stupid to write the work. He was extremely jealous of Gore Vidal and made up stories about him ( Vidal sued him and won). He did the same to Warhol, Lee Radziwill and her sister, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. He also boasted about his love life and basically included a lot of heterosexual movie stars. These stories were also complete fabrication. The society ladies he mixed with were awful, snobbish and priveleged but they included him in their social circle, he wouldn't have had the entitled life of partying and travel if it weren't for them. His betrayal was not out of character and his narcissism expected him to be forgiven by the ladies, he thought he was above reproach. Any way you sow what you reap, Capote sowed gossip and he reaped a backlash. And in my opinion, he deserved every bit.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Well said. Anybody who watches the David Suskind interview (can catch it in youtube) gets a real taste of his character. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@kathleenanne1718 7 месяцев назад

Whenever I see the stories of the high flying social set, I think of that line in Devil Wears Prada wherein Amanda Priestley tells Andy she's no different than Amanda & that EVERYONE wants to be her and like her narcissistic social set looking down their noses at everyone else & feeling so superior. And Andy walks away thankfully because those people are a bunch of egomaniacs incapable of real love for other humans. All the competition & one-upping & backstabbing & gossiping & undermining. JFC who needs that crap?

@pauladouglas9891 7 месяцев назад

I think instead of admiring his swans, in reality, he resented them for having beauty, money and social position. Why they put up with him is another question. Gay men were popular among societ women as 'walkers' men they could take to the ballet and theater when their husbands weren't interested.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

I think you answered your question. They put up with him because he had a service they needed. In Capote's case it was as a confidant. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@MmeT 8 месяцев назад

I think Capote betrayed the swans because he wanted`he wanted to sabotage the relationships before they dumped him. Wild guess maybe he felt that his star was fading. Revenge against his mother.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yes, much like a borderline personality with the tag line: I hate you, don;'t leave me. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@gabbalish 8 месяцев назад

I’m of a similar mindset. People with deep fears of abandonment often destroy or end friendships/relationships before their greatest fear materializes: being dumped themselves. I believe it’s often a behavior the abandonment-fearing subject isn’t wholly aware of, either.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Well said. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@lillianmcgrew217 7 месяцев назад

This is interesting

@courtneybrubaker9738 7 месяцев назад

With friends like Truman, who needs enemies.

@melissanurczynski5920 8 месяцев назад

Excellent work on this! Very spot on in its portrayal of Capote's complex psychology and why women should be very cautious in trusting people with their secrets. Capote was many things, including a brilliant writer but he was also a user. He was never really friends with these women.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Well said and thanks for the feedback. Helps me keep going with this channel. Share the video around with your wise words. Women should be aware. Thanks!

@geraldstephens6612 8 месяцев назад

It's also a lesson on controlling your ego before it sends you off the cliff into the rocks below.

@melissanurczynski5920 8 месяцев назад

@@geraldstephens6612 Well said.

@TheDriftwoodlover 7 месяцев назад

Well, the title of the story he submitted to a contest as a child, “Old Mrs. Busybody,” certainly foreshadowed his life. He used the “swans” to further his social standing, just as Bill Paley used his wife for the same. And he sold them out after they entrusted their secrets to him. Many alcoholics are immature in my experience and Capote’s belief the “swans” would understand exhibits this. No, those women had no reason to continue any relationship with him.

@chrisjone7555 7 месяцев назад

Could you explain more why women should be careful about trusting people with their secrets.

@WarrioroftheAges 8 месяцев назад

Between the alcohol topped off with tranquilizers and the mother issues I’m willing to bet he had unresolved trauma.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I agree with you. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@rafaellewis4528 8 месяцев назад

The quote "There are more tears shed over answered prayers than over unanswered prayers" was not by Truman Capote, as you presented. It was by Saint Teresa of Avila. He borrowed it from her, he did not write or say it.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yes, you are correct. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@poetcomic1 8 месяцев назад

Capote ALWAYS attributed the quote and always said the title is from a quote by St. Teresa of Avila.

@terr777 7 месяцев назад

He certainly said it in reference to the title, and he gave the credit where it was due.

@christopherjohn9869 7 месяцев назад

oh Jeez there was no fucking Saint Teresa of Avila quote. He made it up just like F. Scott Fitzgerald attributed the quote that starts the Great Gatsby "then wear the gold hat if that will move her....." to Thomas parke d invilliers. Fitzgerald pseudonym from prep school That rubbish in the series is just that rubbish. It's caaaaalled creative license. Here is a quote to make it real to the Gullible" Two all beef patties, special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun - Adolph Hitler! He also said "Hold the pickles hold the lettuce special orders don't upset us all we ask is that we let us serve it your way!!! Yep he said it because I said he said it. LOL.

@eoinMB3949 5 месяцев назад

I'm literally reading the biography of Saint theresa of avila as we speak. I haven't come across that quote yet but it does sound like something she would've said. I wonder of Capote was a fan of the great saints? Somehow though I doubt it. It's impossible to read her writings and not be completely transformed by them

@jeanetteschock4744 8 месяцев назад

The richer the person, often the weirder the scandals

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Seems so!

@WendyQallab 7 месяцев назад

Genius writer but complacated human. Sad end.

@Jessy928 8 месяцев назад

Sometimes the people we trust the most are the ones who betray us. Vanity Fair

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Sadly it is all too often true.

@Jessy928 8 месяцев назад

@@fabulouswomeninhistory There’s a reason why Nell didn’t speak to him anymore; even though they had been friends since childhood.

@SharynCollins-gi1le 7 месяцев назад

So very true. Touché.

@elizabethwillis885 8 месяцев назад

Dill from To Kill a Mockingbird was supposed to be based on Capote as a child.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yes I did read that. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@peggypasson8794 7 месяцев назад

Yes an him an Harper Lee had a issue because he said he helped write the book or something to that nature ...

@pauladouglas9891 7 месяцев назад

Amazing that his small hometown had two such great writers.

@bovnycccoperalover3579 7 месяцев назад

Jealous is toxic.

@joycemiller-bean1814 8 месяцев назад

You did a fine job of encapsulating Capote’s background and motivation. I would only include a few small points: the quote from which Capote derived his title, “Answered Prayers”, is generally attributed to St. Teresa of Avila; C.Z. Guest remained friendly with Capote even after the publication of “ La Cote Basque: 1965”; Swan Marcella Agnelli NEVER trusted Capote and actually warned Babe Paley not to confide in the writer-a warning which she sadly ignored and Lee Radziwill also remained friends with Capote until he became angry with her for testifying on behalf of writer Gore Vidal in his defamation lawsuit against Capote which Vidal won. These are just minor clarifications. Overall your video was good. Well done you 👍🏾

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thanks and thanks for the extra information. Love it when people can share and add to the knowledge!

@lemorab1 8 месяцев назад

In her memoir, Slim Keith claimed she also warned Babe Paley not to tell Truman everything. Carole Matthau stated, "He told me some of his secrets. I told him all of mine." Carole gets off lightly in "La Cote Basque." He didn't betray her and she stuck by him.

@vanessaa7602 7 месяцев назад

Actually he was angry with Lee because she refused to testify on HIS behalf. Lee never testified for either.

@joycemiller-bean1814 7 месяцев назад

@@vanessaa7602 You are correct and I am incorrect. Lee Radziwill refused to testify for Capote as he requested and then made disparaging remarks about both men’s sexuality. I was relying on my memory and did not refresh myself on the facts of this aspect, so thanks for the apt correction.

@CoolMinded0 8 месяцев назад

Speaking of gossip; it’s discovered that Truman wrote under a pen name for literary magazines in the late 70s and early 80s (before death). Most were not exposés, but allowed him to go back to his roots before mingling with elite. A majority of the magazines were independent; the pay sucked, but Truman got published up til the end.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Did not know that. Thanks for the additional infomation!

@mainlyfine 8 месяцев назад

It's a case of 'How dare such a low creature look down his nose at US??' He was like a pet to them - but their pet bit them.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

It's good to have both sides of the story. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@pamorama 8 месяцев назад

Exactly and he was a pet because they knew he was a genius and he brought his intellect and wit into their lives. If they thought he wasn’t going to write about them when writing has literally been in his blood since he was a child, they were being pretty dim. (sorry about all the previous errors, I was voice texting on the run)

@mainlyfine 8 месяцев назад

@@pamorama Yep😃

@UnBesoDeCristal 7 месяцев назад

@@pamoramaHe was not a genius, he was a jealous self obsessed man

@carrington2949 7 месяцев назад

Are we sure he didn’t look down on them? Sometimes when people come from more “humble” backgrounds, one can develop their own sense of moral superiority over others born in more privileged circumstances. After all “we worked to get where we are”. Add to that an underlying factor of misogyny that people miss because the guy is not cis heterosexual. He was still a man from a certain time period taught to view women in a certain aspect. I do not think he treated Harper Lee well for all of her help in the book. There was real pain in the form of physical and mental abuse in many of these women’s lives. Capote, like much of the public, just saw them as lucky women who got to look pretty all day. He thought they should consider themselves lucky because of their comfy lives. Either way it was overlooking someone’s pain and turning it into gossip. He was a friend. He was also jealous and miserable asf. 😂

@gabbalish 8 месяцев назад

Really interesting piece! Thank you for creating and posting it. One note: Capote never wrote on a typewriter; his tools were a yellow legal pad and a pencil. He wrote entire books that way. Fascinating.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info and your feedback. Appreciate it.

@mainlyfine 8 месяцев назад

...so did F Scott Fitzgerald

@anthonyboarman3833 8 месяцев назад

Before word processors.

@rogercarroll2551 8 месяцев назад

A nasty little fox is not redeemed by his genius...more likely condemned by it. O the sharp teeth of even the most dwarfed of little foxes.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Capote was truly nasty. He took the egotistic male role of believing that his swans were dumb and wouldn't know that he was writing about them. This show is going to be fun to watch for all the drama but still, sad for the pain he caused to the woman who had trusted him. Thanks for joining the converSation!

@rachelgarber1423 8 месяцев назад

Despite what people say about him being a writer, I think what he did was reprehensible. Maybe he was their pet as some people have said, but it’s not he didn’t benefit from their friendship. Maybe they were shallow women who led scandalous lives, and apparently they weren’t good mothers but that doesn’t earn him the right to tear them down like that, even calling them too dumb to recognize themselves. He was a writer it’s true, but it had been many years since the publication of In Cold Blood and they introduced him to the rarefied world of high society. And regardless of what one thinks of the upper class, it was a world he wanted to be a part of. Imho there are just some things a true friend shouldn’t do. He wrote other books before In Cold Blood, then when he had a writer’s block and poached his friends’ secrets for profit.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I think there is definiely am ethics issue in the whole story. I like the way the show is - so far - portraying the deep hurt that Babe felt. The Slim charcter is tough but Babe is so fragile. I like that they are focusing on that. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@phalynwilliams4119 8 месяцев назад

Exactly! I totally agree with you. The price a confident pays to play is silence. 🤐 If you can’t do that then why shouldn’t you be shunned? Who wouldn’t shun a supposed friend who publicly and maliciously exposed you? Capote was a nasty little man who thought that he was smarter than those shallow but wealthy people. He was their pet? He called them swans 🦢 like they were his pets. The swans 🦢 were foolish but what he did was awful.😣

@ciampooh 7 месяцев назад

Agreed. WORD. FOR. WORD .@@phalynwilliams4119

@bovnycccoperalover3579 7 месяцев назад

Apparently, Capote was both narcissistic and amoral. It's a sign of the times that morality is ever considered in our toxic culture.

@starrycrown 7 месяцев назад

“In Cold Blood” is one of the best of its genre. Every sentence is actually artful. It deserves the highest praise. I think it broke his mind. Great channel!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Hey, thanks for liking the channel!

@cherylb2008 7 месяцев назад

In cold blood A fantastic book

@dmkaydonskastle89 7 месяцев назад

do you think he peeked to early?... I think thats part of his psychology.

@TX1961 8 месяцев назад

It's amazing how the Swans opened up so willingly to someone like Capote, a writer. Part of it was mother issues that Capote had, after being abandoned my his mother as a child. The swans served as mother surrogates. However, just as the swans kept him in their orbit for so many years and not anticipating a future betrayal....Capote underestimated the wrath of the swans (and high society in general). As much as he wanted to be accepted by high society, he ultimately still remained an outsider.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yes, you nailed it! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@rachelgarber1423 8 месяцев назад

A lot of writers have friends, that logic would imply that one should never talk about private things to a writer friend for fear they would betray you.

@pamelaminor696 7 месяцев назад

Capote was profoundly jealous of these women. He wanted their fame, social position & especially their wealth!! He longed to be taken care of by a wealthy man. He knew that he would never be really accepted b/c of his homosexuality by them or society in general. His astonishment over not being forgiven is laughable!

@missnellaful 7 месяцев назад

Sounds like a modern musician… vile humans.

@mesalouis8976 7 месяцев назад

He was like a pet to them. He was around for entertainment and he wanted to be around them for status.

@elizabethwillis885 8 месяцев назад

I want to point out that I think Ward McAllistar (of The Gilded Age fame) was the Capote of his time. Because he actually wrote a tell all of all his socialite friends. And lost them all. Just like Capote.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

A TGA fan! Good point! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@pauladouglas9891 7 месяцев назад

Demonstrates those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it.

@courtneybrubaker9738 7 месяцев назад

He violated personal boundaries then tried to blame them? What a sick man. How would he have felt if they did it to him? It was ok because he was a snake and they let him in? He knew better.

@mesalouis8976 7 месяцев назад

He was envious of there money and high society life style.

@carolyndavison6095 8 месяцев назад

Born and raised in Mobile Al and never knew about Capote living there. Proof you learn something new every day. He was a social climber and the betrayal of his friends was incredibly mean. Don’t blame them for cutting him loose.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

That is surprising that you didn't know but then it goes to show that he wasn't that famous afterall! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@nolasfamily3913 8 месяцев назад

I have been waiting with much anticipation for this series. The cast is stellar; I'm curious how close the essence of Truman is captured. I was once at a social setting with Truman & Lee. It is unforgettable to this day and now to see a series about him with the swans should be very interesting. Ryan Murphy has created some captivated series, I have no doubt this will be one of his best....hope so!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I don't know if Tom Hollander can beat Toby Jones for his betrayal. Or Philip Seymour Hoffman for that matter. They were right on. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@kisslena 8 месяцев назад

I thought I had befriended a poorly closeted gay man. He was never my friend. Two cis gender males told me in separate conversations that he secretly hated me because I was a woman. He wanted to be like me but he could never be me. I was deeply sad for him and it wasn’t difficult to cut him out of my life because he began to act out towards me. I determined from that day forwarded that men like him are dealing with something only God can heal. It’s presumptive to call them purely evil… their true pain and suffering is self inflicted.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I found it interesting that the tv show touched upon the topic of gay men secretly or unconsciously hating womenin a scene when they were trying to fathom what made him betray them in print. I think your statement, "He wanted to be like me but he could never be me," captures what may have been at the heart of his actions. Thanks for sharing your experience.

@lonestar1637 7 месяцев назад

Truman Capote’s short stories from his early years are absolutely genius, especially “Christmas “Memory. The movie “The Grass Harpis my favorite, it trumps “Breakfast at Tiffany’s by miles. I have read every word published by the man, and I believe by the time of Le Cote Basque, his astonishing😊 talent had left him and he wrote the article in desperation to stave off the demands of his publishers compounded by the effects of the booze and pills clouding everything in his world.

@howto4u705 8 месяцев назад

This is going to make for a great show. I love these drama shows that are told as a story but not as a reality show. I hate reality shows. Truman Capote's betrayal of his the swans, is fascinating yet tragic and I look forward to how the woman are going to respond. I like your suggestions on why he did it. I will be watching out for how your theories play out. Thanks for this timely video!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for joining the conversation!

@elizabethtanith8961 8 месяцев назад

Malignant narcissist!!!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

You got it! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@Quinkerbell_3604 7 месяцев назад

Error: The picture of Audrey Hepburn with an Oscar is for her win for Roman Holiday in 1954. In 1962, she was nominated but lost.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

I know but it is meant to represent Hollywood. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@gabbalish 8 месяцев назад

So much has changed in the decades since Capote was a child, and a grown man in New York. Being gay simply wasn’t something that you broadcast in those days, which is why so many men (and women) were closeted for their entire lives. But with Truman, his small size, baby voice, and effeminate mannerisms made it impossible to hide the fact that he was gay. I believe that his bold, brash, outrageous ways were often the only defense he had against being ostracized and bullied for being gay; because he couldn’t hide it, why not make it his signature and the very basis of his identity? That doesn’t come without deep-rooted pain and insecurities. As much as Capote was the life of the party and the conversationalist everyone wanted at their dinner parties, he was still that little boy whose father left, and whose mother ached to exist among the higher echelons of society; she married a man, Joe Capote, who enabled her to move to New York and attempt her climb to the same circles that Truman himself eventually inhabited. It’s as if he was searching for his mother, intent on landing in the very circles that eluded her. His mother never accepted him as a gay child, or a gay man, and what better way to chase that approval than to succeed in a way that she never really did. Sadly, they both became bitter alcoholics who basically died alone, and without the loving care of family around them. All this being said, Capote has been my favorite writer since I was assigned to read In Cold Blood in 11th grade, in 1989. I’ve read everything he’s written: all the biographies; seen every documentary; every interview; all the movies. He was absolutely brilliant and understood the human condition about as well as anyone ever has. But he was terribly wounded and damaged from a young age and never was able to escape his own demons.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Very nice addition to our discussion. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@thepurpleone5959 7 месяцев назад

He would have been dangerous with RU-vid. Thank you for the break down

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

OMG you are so right!

@kristinedunner988 7 месяцев назад

@@fabulouswomeninhistory😊

@appletree6898 8 месяцев назад

I would like to know more about his friendship with Harper Lee. She seems like the antithesis of the swans! Did he keep in steady contact with her during his high society years? Was she there for him when high society dumped him?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Good suggestion for a video. THanks!

@nutauf7587 8 месяцев назад

I always heard that they stopped talking in their later years

@appletree6898 8 месяцев назад

@nutauf7587 It’s sad when you read about little "Dill" in To Kill a Mockingbird. It seems like Harper knew the innocent little boy that Truman used to be-- good at spinning tales even then, but sweet and neglected by his family. When you think of all the rejection and homophobia he must have endured back then, you have to have at least a little empathy for the guy. I love his autobiographical short story, "A Christmas Memory, " about his childhood. That shows a really different side of him.

@jefflawrentz1624 8 месяцев назад

I thought Harper Lee and Truman were cousins, which may be one reason he spared her.

@pauladouglas9891 7 месяцев назад

In the movie about him, Harper Lee helped him when he went on location for In Cold Blood.

@celestem4069 7 месяцев назад

So it’s basically season 6 of Gossip Girl. xoxo, Truman Capote

@sandymwest1606 8 месяцев назад

I found Capote a fascinating character. I suppose because he was such a good writer. The jet set still exists and the secrets of the rich and famous will continue aswell.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yes, reality tv is just such an example. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@rebeccaaugustine8628 7 месяцев назад

To make a long story short, Capote was jealous! However, this was already said. He had an inferiority complex and instead of just being friends, accepting their short-comings as well as his own, he tried to tear them down in order to build himself up. He was a "little man," and this does not refer to his stature. In regard to forgiveness, one can be forgiven, but that doesn't mean that the betrayed person must be friends with the narcissist who betrayed him or her and "give another chance" to the hateful person!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

I think that narcissist pretty much nails it! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@Somewhereintime22 7 месяцев назад

I think he got writer’s block and the fact that he had taken all that upfront money from the publisher made him panic. He used what he had…and that was extremely poor judgement. I think he either convinced himself that he’d disguised the characters…or…he was acting on a subconscious self-fulfilling prophecy that he’d eventually be abandoned by his ladies due to the trauma of his mother’s abandonment of him early on. It was probably a combination of both though. His substance abuse probably didn’t help his judgement much either and by the time he published this it had been a while since he’d had a big seller…so he was getting desperate.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@jacky3580 7 месяцев назад

It’s ironic that the women were owned by their husbands and claimed as “his” by Capote. Scratch, claw, climb, what a life.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Good catch on that. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@historychannelpodcasts 8 месяцев назад

I am so looking forward to this show. I bet it will be as hot as The Gilded Age. More catty women. Lots of scandal. High society exposed! I do think there there is any reason to forgive even if he had mommy issues. Great video!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Hey thank for commenting! Let's get the discussion going!

@ChildOfTheFlower 8 месяцев назад

The situation is twofold, Capote was never their friend as the Swans saw him as a fun pet project to keep around as long as he was a good lap dog while at the same time, Capote saw the high society as a means of security during his heyday. Both parties used the other where it does get disingenuous to state poor Mr. Capote was dumped by a bunch of entitle wealthy women for saying the truth. They came to him with secrets which could have caused damage to someone if publishing it to the world. Even if he published the Swans were all sweethearts, the girls would still have felt violated because they instilled their confidence in him and he abuses it without their consent.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I agree with you entirely. Consent is an issue here. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@tamedshrew235 8 месяцев назад

Truman Capote was a brilliant writer in a genre that combined journalism and self exploration through one's personal experience- either his protagonists or his own. JD Salinger, Hunter Thompson, and Sylvia Plath were other writers in this genre during that period. Truman's friends (Swans) were fully aware that he was a writer, that is also why they prized his companionship. Scrap the armchair psychoanalysis, the man never denied who he was or what he was.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I value all my commentors. Thanks for adding to the conversation.

@wmgflute 7 месяцев назад

@@fabulouswomeninhistory yea tbh a lot of your "analysis" plays on homophobic tropes. Do better.

@juliarman 7 месяцев назад

@@wmgflute My thoughts exactly...."He was an insecure gay man, needing motherly love and attention while having a deeply hidden jealousy of the charm, beauty and grace of the women"...what a proper GOLLUM, LOL

@stevemiller7949 8 месяцев назад

It makes a good title but it isn't accurate. They ghosted him . He was dropped end of story.. Sure it was a big scandal but they erased him from their world and moved on, except for the Woodward dame. A big mistake on Capote's part ( in hindsight)

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Capote's ego knew no bounds. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@PATMCKEON007 7 месяцев назад

Just a part of the life cycle 🕊️ He was a Brilliant yet tortured Artist 💙 📝 Welcome to NY 📝

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for joining the conversation!

@MetamorphosisRox 8 месяцев назад

Considering his fear of abandonment, I have to wonder if this was not simply a case of hurting them before they hurt him. I'm aware that two of them did not abandon him but still, I feel like in a way, a childish one (but are we surprised considering his background), he was testing them. To me the saddest story was Ann's.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I agree. Look for my vidoe on Ann tomorrow. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@moviemonster2083 8 месяцев назад

He was a good novelist, but I've come to believe, a fraud in many other ways, not unlike many other of the frauds of the time. He courted the Goddess of Publicity too roughly and he justly suffered for it. He also made the mistake of getting too personally involved in his subject material, death for an artist. In some ways, one feels he would have preferred to be a journalist, but he couldn't be honest about it to himself. And then, of course, he sold the his gift too cheaply for fame and fortune and predictably died early from drug and alcohol addiction, and I don't believe that elevates anyone's art. That's a childish fetish.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Well said. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@simonetta-ta 7 месяцев назад

I do not agree. He was not a good writer. He was an excellent writer. Indeed!

@greeneyedwarlock882 8 месяцев назад

No excuse for what he did, but I actually feel sorry for him for the abandoned and so sad childhood he went through.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I do like to look behind the mask but, in the end, we are all responsible for our choice. He made his choice and he suffered for it. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@anjyllab-t6713 8 месяцев назад

I think he forgot the number one rule that every woman knows: don't piss them off. It will come back to bite you in the butt. I think, being friends with these women, he should have known that you don't bite the hand that feeds you. Snd he didn't just bite one, he cut the hands off and expected to be forgiven. some betrayals just are unforgivable.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

That's right! Women are tough - or as I like to say, fierce and feisty! Thanks for joining the conversation!

@Richardsonprincess00 8 месяцев назад

Costing the entire society ladies downfall...no thanks to Capote who ruined their lives which cost him his downfall.

@karenturner3969 7 месяцев назад

He was neglected and betrayed by his mother, who was a beautiful woman who aspired to be a social presence, like his swans. When wrote In Cold Blood he became the close friend and confidant of the murderer Perry Smith -- some say they became lovers -- but there is no proof. This friendship with Perry was instrumental in creating a brilliant book, but Capote lied to him and betrayed him, knowing the death penalty would give his book the ending he desired. Betrayal became a part of his nature.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Just watched the 2005 movie Capoty starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman free on TUBI free streaming service. Also on TUBI is the 1979 documentary Capote Tells All with David Susskind

@bovnycccoperalover3579 7 месяцев назад

Thanks. Will check that out!

@code-52 7 месяцев назад

Well, you asked. It's been my experience that men who wish they were women, seek out the best. But their jealousy of such women is stronger than the friendships. He wanted to destroy what he couldn't have....couldn't be.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for that insight. I too believe he was jealous of them. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@dividends4retirement 8 месяцев назад

I really do like the videos that you make. I am a big fan of facts vs fiction and these videos hit the spot. I can't wait for the show. When does it air and where? I hope I can catch it somewhere.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Airs Jan 31, 2024 10 p.m. EST on FX. I think it will stream on Hulu so I heard. The Swans' will also be accessible on Disney+ (via Star) starting Feb 1st (I think) and the series will be available on Star+ in Latin America.

@pamorama 8 месяцев назад

Back in the day, the antics of the very wealthy were protected, sometimes to a horrible degree. The wealthy and illustrious want to be noticed and written about and to receive all the benefits of publicity and fame. Sadly, with that come scrutiny, and the fact that others find your lives interesting. I am with some of the other commenters who said that without Truman Capote inside stories, their names would not be as remembered today. They were interesting, because people were interested in the details of their lives, and if those were sordid, is it the person who’s writing about it to blame?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

I am glad to hear your take on this. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@anthonycopian1298 8 месяцев назад

I guess Truman is back in fashion thanks to Murphy's mini series.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Yep, this will bring attention back for sure.

@bovnycccoperalover3579 7 месяцев назад

I don't think he was lost in fashion to those interested in writers and writing. Has Williams also been forgotten? Unbelievable.

@ChelleLlewes 8 месяцев назад

I remember seeing Robert Morse play him in Tru, and one of the most memorable lines in the play was something like, "Well, they all knew I'm a writer! What did they expect?" And I concur. What DID they expect?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Nowdays people get sued for doing what he did. Granted he did use their names but ... Thanks for joining the conversation!

@courtneybrubaker9738 7 месяцев назад

His way of saying he wasn’t a safe trustworthy person or he was a snake and they let him in. Way to justify cruel treatment.

@lexi7749 7 месяцев назад

People are friends with authors all the time without having their secrets published

@kallen868 6 месяцев назад

Great show! Robert Morse was brilliant. I urge anyone interested to seek it out.(It can be found out here) As an actor I long to play that role but at 5'11 I'm too dang tall!

@MunchForWellness 8 месяцев назад

Another of your great videos. I really appreciate the effort you make to research these tv shows and give some insight to the real history behind them. I have been subed to your channel since your first video on The Dig. Really enjoyed it and look forward to more!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Thank you very much!

@GeorgeTennesseeWiseman 7 месяцев назад

The Greeks had a word for it - hubris. I love the story about what Anne Woodward's mother-in-law was supposed to have said upon hearing that Anne was no more. It was something like "Well, Anne killed Billy and Truman killed Anne and that's that!"

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Had not come across that tidbit. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@MsCMsc-b9k 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for your sharing of this story. It’s very fascinating and I love a great story. What I see in Capote is a gay man who, in his mind, is a genius storyteller and writer. He loved glamorous things and women. His small apartment is covered in intriguing designs. His writing was his art and although he adored the women, he was an artist which trumped everything. He had to write about them, they were his bread and butter and they are exciting and interesting to everyday people. The women loved being around him because he was passionate and caring and they loved to hear his stories. He had a way of telling stories that entertained them. So they knew who he was and what he does so they share in the blame of sharing secrets with him. I think his humanity really tore him apart. He doesn’t want to hurt them but it was who he was. That pain of having to tell the stories of his friends lead him to depression hence the drinking and the pills.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for you sharing your thoughts as well!

@MonteCristoAUS 8 месяцев назад

Reading articles and listening to interview from Capote in the 70s and 80s, very little can be found which is positive, except from hangers on and sycophants. There were friends who spoke kindly of him, such as biographer, George Plimpton, who documented his spiralling lifestyle and how is alcoholism and drug addiction made him a joke. I can't help but think he was self destructive as soon as he reached the craved success from In Cold Blood and from his social standing and celebrity. Maybe he thought all it was all vapid or that he would be known as a one trick pony, or that perhaps he was jealous of others' success. There are several biographies of Capote as well as his feud with the Swans. I've only read the Plimpton biography, does anyone know better ones?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

A well-informed comment. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@gabbalish 8 месяцев назад

Gerald Clarke wrote a definitive bio of Capote.

@vaniapenhalopes2461 8 месяцев назад

Yes. I read it when it first came out. It's excellent.

@Speaking841 7 месяцев назад

I think it's a case of "kill the cheerleader". As a closeted gay boy living in poverty, Truman probably saw women like Babe Paley as an ideal that could never relate to his origins. So, while he was ecstatic to be accepted by them, he deeply resented their privilege. He thought they were stupid, vapid and gullible. In his subconscious, he wanted them to experience shame and vulnerability out in the open, the way he had done in his life prior.

@newtexan1 7 месяцев назад

My brother is gay. They don’t keep secrets. Don’t feel sorry for him AT ALL.

@unaonse1115 8 месяцев назад

I've always had CZ Guest as my fave swan

@jefflawrentz1624 8 месяцев назад

Ditto! She was most elegant, I thought.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

She was born to it! I like that she has a heart and feels for Truman.

@bovnycccoperalover3579 7 месяцев назад

Didn't she come from old money? They tend to be much more sophisticated and wise of the way of the world.

@emeraldforcier14 7 месяцев назад

A lot of gay guys have made a life hanging out with swans, but they never really like them.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Wonder shy that is?

@margieshelnutt9006 7 месяцев назад

Never never never confide in someone who is a journalist or a writer. NEVER!!!!!

@MadameX_ 7 месяцев назад

Poor ol Babe. Imagine being so emotionally desperate that you let a narcissist like Truman become your most trusted friend. He was such an opportunistic creep. All his advice was steeped in childish pettiness. Yuck.

@RenataCantore 7 месяцев назад

Milking his friends for their deepest secrets & then publishing them is one of the worst betrayals . His friends were his victims. He couldn't resist using their stories when he was under pressure to write his novel. Understandable but the stories were too close to the bone for these Women. Shame on him. He was so creative that he should have realized how terribly the impact of his book would be on these real people. I don't know how he could have been forgiven after the murder- suicide ( in affect).😢😢😢

@sefora805 8 месяцев назад

I don’t think he was ever friends with them, I think he resented them!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Seems that way... Thanks for joining the conversation!

@pnsjax 7 месяцев назад

Truman never pulled any such stunts with Harper Lee. She saw through him while they were just children playing games in Monroeville, Alabama. She was always reserved, and cautious in her dealings with Capote. She played his game with her cards held closely to her chest. Too bad other women were not as astute as She.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Nelle was one smart woman and having known him since childhood, she did have a clue. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@truthseeker444 7 месяцев назад

Maybe the years of alcohol abuse had robbed him of his imagination and creativity, and when under pressure to "create", he just wrote about events that he knew about. Decades of drinking likely dulled his brain, to the point that he did not consider that there would be consequences for his indiscretion. I'm sure many of us personally know an alcoholic, who can no longer police their own thoughts, and judge what would be proper to share.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Well said. It is a sad condtion for sure. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@cinthiaaufdenkampe2750 7 месяцев назад

What Capote did in writing his dear friends secrets was the altimate betrayal. And No they should not have forgiven him, he made his bed now he must lie in his betrayal.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Yep, that's what a lot of us think as well. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@MDiStefano10 8 месяцев назад

I truly enjoy your vlogs. Please don't stop!

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Hey thanks so much. Always good to hear postive feeback. I don't plan on stopping and have more to come! Thanks again!

@susanstrand5599 8 месяцев назад

All of these women were in need of a sounding board confessional. Truman seemed a benign shadow in their circle. He took in all that they offered and shuffled from one to another as they gossiped about one another and their unhappy marriages. Truman seemed no threat as he was not trying to steal any of these ladies from their spouses. As a thoughtful wordsmith, he gave them all the compliments and catty quips in daily discussions that drew them in for more. He became their addiction as they did his. Each relationship filled a void that money could not! Everyone got what was coming to them. No such thing as a perfect life.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

Well said. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@BubbyorBubs 5 месяцев назад

Truman’s mommy issues made him so nasty towards women.

@LIGal398 7 месяцев назад

In Lawrence Leamer's book upon which the current series Feud is based, he said the affair Bill Paley has with the NY Governor in which the wife leaves menstrual blood on the sheets was Harriman. In the series it's Nelson and Happy Rockefeller. Quite a leap. Also, in LL book Barbara Paley never speaks to Truman again so that scene on the street where they meet and hug, is pure fiction.

@Garcelle1987 7 месяцев назад

We don’t talk about it enough but gay men are very capable of misogyny just as their straight male counterparts. Also, was his perhaps sexist resentment towards these rich women exacerbated by his jealousy of their attractiveness/ femininity & the fact they were either married to or had access to handsome wealthy, powerful men if they wanted? Something to ponder at least

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

Yes it is. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@equatorialjourney4478 7 месяцев назад

Indeed …..the vilest ,most deeply entrenched misogynists of all are the social strata of insecure , gay queens . Vicious

@scheis123 7 месяцев назад

I was reading the comments, waiting for someone to blame it on his gayness. And here we are. Problem is that millions of gay men, including myself, have female friends we respect, admire and love and we'd never betray them. Try again.

@andrewphilips2457 7 месяцев назад

Desperation, ego and laziness. He had to fulfill publisher requests. Hadn't had an original idea in decades, so this was lowest hanging fruit for him to pick. He could've made it a WAY more fictional piece and painted his friends with a better brush but was too lazy or vindictive.

@Mrrossj01 7 месяцев назад

If you have a secret and want to keep it a secret, tell no one. Capote was a writer. His milieu in New York, hobnobbing with a group of rich ladies who lunch, provided him with a pungent source of inspiration. His swans, BTW, were women of little interest except for their marrying very rich men. None of them would ever find their way to a Supreme Court appointment, for instance. At that time, marrying wealth was an aspiring ambition for many women. Hopefully, society has changed. Now we have celebrities reveling in their ten minutes of fame.

@cottoncandisandi6109 8 месяцев назад

😂😅😂 His career was not " destroyed " by these events . TC was all over NYC in the late 70's and early 80's . ADDICTION , sidelined and destroyed TC . TC did regret losing Babe Paley as a close friend and confident . Still , she was actively dying when LCB 1965 was published . Rich people problems 🙄

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

There was the career of writing and the career of being Capote the celebrity. As I understand it, no major work came out after "La Côte Basque" but the showman Capote was still out there. Thanks for joining the conversation!

@carolannemckenzie3849 8 месяцев назад

Yeah I heard he was often seen at Studio 54 in his disco phase, off his face. The Swans loved his gossip until his sharp tongue was turned on them 😂

@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 месяцев назад

He did devolve into drugs and alcohol. Sad man.

@2eleven48 7 месяцев назад

Capote repeatedly was quite clear: he planned to write a novel equal to, if not superior to, the works of Marcel Proust. He simply didn't have it in him. This was a vain, and in vain, endeavour.

@ciampooh 7 месяцев назад

I remember reading somewhere that Capote was quoted to have said of Marilyn Monroe "She's just a Hoover with nipples" nasty little man. Now, I wonder who he said it to ? If it's true, they (she) could have dropped him long before his little expose' and possibly been spared. ?

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

He was nasty. Anything goes to get attention. Thanks for joining the conversAtion!

@vlh5114 7 месяцев назад

I think Truman’s sense of intellectual superiority over his swans drove him to believe they were too dumb to connect the dots. His ego got in the way of true friendships because he could not love himself or anyone else. He was an alcoholic, vain, jealous man with great literary talent who desired devotion & destroyed the people who gave it to him and in the end destroyed himself.

@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 месяцев назад

He is said to have commented that they were to dumb to know that he was writing aboout them. I think it was Jack who relayed that info. Thanks for joining the conversatiOn!