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Trunked Sauropods - Contradictions and Comparisons 

Henry the PaleoGuy
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Sauropods would've been marvels of the mesozoic, towering over the landscape, and feeding on the plentiful food that sustained their massive bodies. Since their extinction, however, their remains have sometimes sprung controversy, particularly in the skull, which, due to their dorsally located nostrils, inspired the invention of a hypothesis which suggested that sauropods may have possessed trunks.
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@dboot8886
@dboot8886 4 года назад
"Sauropods had trunks." "No! Sauropods had beaks!" Me: in the back hiding my drawings of Sauropods with neck-spikes.
@anatheresaarceo9311
@anatheresaarceo9311 4 года назад
Uh actually I think some sauropods have the trait of spike on their neck...I think it is Amargasaurus
@maximaldinotrap
@maximaldinotrap 4 года назад
Bajadsaurus
@dboot8886
@dboot8886 4 года назад
black falcon Ah, spikes on the underside of their necks. For territorial/mating disputes. Just slamming each other with sharp nodules (sharp osteoderms?) until one goes "aight ima head out".
@maximaldinotrap
@maximaldinotrap 4 года назад
@@dboot8886 To be fair you just said spikes on their necks.
@dboot8886
@dboot8886 4 года назад
maximaldinotrap Yeah I got loosey goosey with my wording.
@falloutmcgee6948
@falloutmcgee6948 4 года назад
“Trunked Sauropods aren’t real, they can’t hurt you.” Trunked Sauropods:
@bjmccann1
@bjmccann1 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 4 года назад
Trunked Sauropods: *Actually aren’t real*
@thimization
@thimization 4 года назад
Trunked Sauropods: *doesn't exist*
@charliethenecromancer4422
@charliethenecromancer4422 4 года назад
*SQUISH*
@SG-kp2ql
@SG-kp2ql 4 года назад
if you think thats bad, wait for trunked sauropod furries
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 4 года назад
Trunked Sauropod Movement is my band name
@bastionunitb7388
@bastionunitb7388 4 года назад
Good ol' TSM
@Tharringbone
@Tharringbone 4 года назад
I want to like this but it’s at 69 so I can’t
@biteszadusto8854
@biteszadusto8854 4 года назад
welp it's at 70 likes now. Damn it
@gabrielattridgefuentes4961
@gabrielattridgefuentes4961 4 года назад
Andy from Parks & Recreation
@TheKaijuGamer_
@TheKaijuGamer_ 3 года назад
I'll be waiting for your albums and music.
@TheRunningLeopard
@TheRunningLeopard 4 года назад
I liked the idea of beaked sauropods better, makes more sense since they appeared in other dinosaur clades and explain the teeth remaining so sturdy in the skulls.
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 4 года назад
Im looking at the head of Brachiosaurus now, doesn't its skull look like there's space for some sort of fleshy sack maybe for resonating sounds?
@berzerkerdude655
@berzerkerdude655 4 года назад
Maybe they had long tongue like grafts to rech higher branches.
@sizematters3923
@sizematters3923 4 года назад
That's been proven to be wrong also.
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 4 года назад
@@sizematters3923 Im sure your not getting that from nowhere but some elaboration would be appreciated,
@sizematters3923
@sizematters3923 4 года назад
@@Sara3346 Nope. That's prior fantasy bs.
@batspidey7611
@batspidey7611 4 года назад
Sauropods are better off being reptilian giraffes than elephants with long necks.
@billybimbo985
@billybimbo985 4 года назад
Ariel Nunez fr
@maniacram
@maniacram 4 года назад
Ariel Nunez if u say so
@Tsotha
@Tsotha 4 года назад
I imagine them as gigantic land-bound geese
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 4 года назад
It doesn’t matter what they are “better off” looking! We are talking about facts not what would look cooler! It isn’t anybody’s choice to make dinosaur look a certain way.
@batspidey7611
@batspidey7611 4 года назад
My comment acknowledges the fact that sauropods couldn’t have trunks on their faces.
@joshuaashby4720
@joshuaashby4720 4 года назад
Yeah, I agree that having a long neck would make having a trunk seem redundant.
@carlorielmendez6505
@carlorielmendez6505 4 года назад
There's this mammal in ice age that looks like a fat giraffe with tapir-length trunk.
@joshuaashby4720
@joshuaashby4720 4 года назад
Carlo Riel Mendez Really?
@eduardofreitas8336
@eduardofreitas8336 4 года назад
@@carlorielmendez6505 paraceratherium.
@georgehunter2813
@georgehunter2813 4 года назад
Absolutely. You got it exactly right.
@KhanMann66
@KhanMann66 4 года назад
@@eduardofreitas8336 Wrong animal. Macrauchenia.
@forbesupnxlous8681
@forbesupnxlous8681 4 года назад
So they're basically the Alien Tiddy Milk Monsters from Star Wars the last Jedi
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 4 года назад
Rhino milk is better then green milk
@NecromancyForKids
@NecromancyForKids 4 года назад
Where else does milk come from?
@NecromancyForKids
@NecromancyForKids 4 года назад
Where else does milk come from?
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 4 года назад
Or the long necked trunked mammals from the Ice Age series.
@invisiblejaguar1
@invisiblejaguar1 4 года назад
@@kennethsatria6607 macrauchenia, those animals were so cool I wish they have survived into the modern day.
@Soronant
@Soronant 4 года назад
This was a pretty damn conclusive debunking and in just 6 minutes. Ruining a perfectly cool concept art and kicking it from speculative to fiction.
@Ezullof
@Ezullof 4 года назад
Did you listen to the conclusion of the video? This is not a debunking. This is how science works.
@emrecan7316
@emrecan7316 4 года назад
Well, one still can imagine something like that. İ'd personally imagine it as an alien megafauna. 😘
@diegorodriguesdesouza7389
@diegorodriguesdesouza7389 4 года назад
@@emrecan7316 I were thinking the same thing. Long neck trunked "animals" in fictional world, it would be extremely cool.
@K-Boogie7999
@K-Boogie7999 4 года назад
That thumbnail is nightmare fuel
@FeliDJrah
@FeliDJrah 4 года назад
Indeed.
@batspidey7611
@batspidey7611 4 года назад
Looks like a Macrauchenia.
@nemilyk
@nemilyk 4 года назад
@@batspidey7611 Which, coincidentally, is now thought to be unlikely to have had trunks, either. :-P
@siyacer
@siyacer 4 года назад
Reaction image
@batspidey7611
@batspidey7611 4 года назад
Nate Klein I’m aware it doesn’t have a trunk.
@LarsTonguesInAspix
@LarsTonguesInAspix 4 года назад
When i first saw the Thumbnail, I thought Henry was gonna talk about scientic accuracies and Inaccuracies of Star Wars fauna..😅
@LarsTonguesInAspix
@LarsTonguesInAspix 4 года назад
@Juicelad What The Extinction is a Eopie? JK Its The Macrocinia Looking Thing in Tatu in. (I Have No Idea How To Spell it)
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 4 года назад
That can't be done in a single video. It's THAT bad. But it's on my list in any case...
@Alley99
@Alley99 4 года назад
wh-why did you capitalise every word *except* the one word that was supposed to be capitalised
@Bifocal_Burrito
@Bifocal_Burrito 4 года назад
Very interesting, I can see where the initial idea would come from but in the end I must agree that it really doesnt seem likely that there would be something as redundant as a trunk on one of the tallest land animals of its era.
@northropi2027
@northropi2027 4 года назад
Just imagine having a body plan where basically the front half of your 30m hulk is a crane supporting a giant vacuum cleaner, but having the equivalent of one of those grabby claw things taped to the extreme front of it. It's like you either just inhale food with unilateral branch stripping and grazing putting it directly into the mouth, or use a trunk that adds a step to the process so you get an extra meter of reach but go at half the speed *if that,* carefully plucking a bushel of greens and putting it in your mouth and doing that over and over
@fredmench4552
@fredmench4552 4 года назад
The nasal cavity on the scull is much like a modern trunked animal is. Pay attention.
@northropi2027
@northropi2027 4 года назад
@@fredmench4552 I don't see it at all. Note the bone running up the center and its convex shape. Trunked mammals have a pretty substantial hole where that is, the entire nasal structure forming a prominent tunnel up to that point, with a jagged lip. There's not much of a similarity other than that the naris is farther up and back on the head from where the soft-tissue nose would intuitively be, but basically no semblance in the nasal cavity itself, even less so considering the lack of osteological correlates for the extensive musculature even a small trunk would require, as the video mentioned. Additionally, while not entirely waterproof as it doesn't account for vestigial features, I would again like to point out that a trunk, unless ludicrously long, would be useless on the Sauropod bodyplan and feeding strategy, and therefore makes little enough sense to be open to other explanations even if there were more evidence like the aforementioned muscle attachments it lacks, such as just having a relatively complex nose for respiratory, sensory, or display purposes. The arrangement of Sauropod skulls is certainly unconventional and a lot of ideas as to why that is have been put out there, but a trunk in particular seems like too much with too little direct evidence through bone structure and too little logical reason for it to be there. I guess you could say a trunk is kind of reaching.
@LetsTakeWalk
@LetsTakeWalk 4 года назад
It is like debunking the “Pterosaurs are ancestors to birds” nonesense. Love it!
@videonmode8649
@videonmode8649 4 года назад
Can you do one about chunky vs shrink-wrapped portrayals of dinosaurs?
@millenial90
@millenial90 4 года назад
I would love to see something like that!
@Sondergarden
@Sondergarden 4 года назад
Why would a creature who already has an incredibly long and flexible neck need an additional tiny flexible extension? Speculative ideas like this are where ockhams razor shines best
@HiveSci
@HiveSci 4 года назад
Lena Søndergaard *shrugs in litopterna*
@Avatar_Brandy
@Avatar_Brandy 4 года назад
The same reason a giraffe has a prehensile, extra long tongue? To strip the trees of leaves?
@sumotacular3681
@sumotacular3681 4 года назад
@@Avatar_Brandy But the giraffe's tongue strips the leaves and pulls the food directly into the giraffe's mouth. That tongue is also extremely tough and evolved as a response to defensive adaptations of it's food sources, such as thorns. A trunk is a delicate, slow addition that would reduce the efficiency of eating. Sauropods could just strip a branch of its leaves based on their teeth, no need to add an extra step that would slow down the rate of caloric intake.
@blizzard2508-k7n
@blizzard2508-k7n 4 года назад
@@Avatar_Brandy Then the sauropod should just have a really good tongue.
@TragoudistrosMPH
@TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад
Hehe, I was afraid this would be an "ancient aliens" style 'documentary'. I'm relieved!
@brandonluker3660
@brandonluker3660 4 года назад
Trunked Sauropods? How proboscis!
@brandonluker3660
@brandonluker3660 4 года назад
Oh and I just about forgot, Long live Ornithoscelida!
@radishpineapple74
@radishpineapple74 4 года назад
Holy cow, what a brutal debunking that was. Relentless. There's something so satisfying to witness a fringe idea getting absolutely taken down like that. This is the first I've seen of you, but you've already earned my sub.
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy 4 года назад
Thank you! I always like making videos like these, as it really opens your eyes to anatomical details and allows for a greater understanding of how science as a whole functions. :)
@Sparkbomber
@Sparkbomber 4 года назад
Intriguing as the idea might be to some, I cannot conceive any benefits or realistic adaptations to having trunks on sauropods. The sheer weight would have prevented long necks and necessitated larger brains beyond what they apparently had and the stress on all parts involved would have been sheer insanity.
@jamesmilne4233
@jamesmilne4233 4 года назад
I remember seeing Robert T. Bakker holding a sauropod skull and a moose skull, and observing that both skulls had the same large artery scar. he theorised that the sauropod probably had big moose like lips to assist with feeding.
@dynamoterror18
@dynamoterror18 4 года назад
It's hard enough to accept that sauropods might've possessed turtle-like beaks, but I don't know if I could do the same with them having trunks.
@diegobrando3409
@diegobrando3409 4 года назад
That doesn't seem outlandish. Turtle like beaks make sense for what type of animal they are and what environments they lived in. The trunks however make no sense.
@dynamoterror18
@dynamoterror18 4 года назад
@@diegobrando3409 Still I'm gonna miss my lipped sauropods.😔
@diegobrando3409
@diegobrando3409 4 года назад
@@dynamoterror18 I miss him as much as I do shrek.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 года назад
@@diegobrando3409 don't most turtles live in shallow waters and oceans when they have a beak? I'm pretty sure sauropods didn't swim
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 года назад
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 I don't really see any link between the beak and the fact than an animal is aquatic or not ^^' But yeah, most turtles live in water (260 vs 70 terrestrials and 7 marines)... but is it relevant as all turtles have a beak? ^^
@GarryDKing
@GarryDKing 4 года назад
I'd rather my longnecked dinos not look like squidward thank you
@northropi2027
@northropi2027 4 года назад
Well to be fair what's supported by evidence is what we should be obliged to go with, but fortunately this is not one of those things.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 4 года назад
Thankfully there is no evidence for trunks and mostly evidence against weirdness like that.
@maniacram
@maniacram 4 года назад
King Ammonite trunks are weird to you? Wtf?
@northropi2027
@northropi2027 4 года назад
@@maniacram maniacram confirmed for Pachyderm.
@maniacram
@maniacram 4 года назад
Northropi trunks are cute
@KossolaxtheForesworn
@KossolaxtheForesworn 4 года назад
I mean yeah, Im not much of a biologist but just by comparing the skull structures even a layman can see that there was never a trunk there.
@yerabbit
@yerabbit 4 года назад
also wouldn't it blow around like a windsock? that would be annoying.
@andrewgan557
@andrewgan557 4 года назад
why need an long nose if you already got an long neck!?
@heydiahrea
@heydiahrea 4 года назад
I know a kid with a long neck and a long nose
@grose2272
@grose2272 4 года назад
So you can give yourself a colonic I guess..
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 4 года назад
Yes, that's useless if you are a long necked animal
@agboo
@agboo 4 года назад
my ex can answer that for you
@eleventhprimarch5303
@eleventhprimarch5303 4 года назад
To grab things
@bigred8438
@bigred8438 4 года назад
A great rebuttal of the trunk hypothesis.
@DeathbyPixels
@DeathbyPixels 4 года назад
I don’t care if I “like” what ancient animals looked like. Nature doesn’t give a damn about my opinion. Therefore, if sauropods DID have trunks, well, good for them. If they didn’t, okay cool. Everything is a possibility when you’re dealing with little more than bones. However, given the evidence in this video, I would have to say they probably didn’t have trunks. I absolutely welcome outrageous hypothesises like this, though. If we all stuck to one idea, we would never make any progress. It was a huge leap from the Crystal Palace “dinosaurs” to the colourful, diverse, active animals we know today. Er... knew.
@willy6223
@willy6223 4 года назад
It's funny reading this from a dude with a gorillaz profile pic😂
@counterfeit6089
@counterfeit6089 4 года назад
Ok
@davidgreen5099
@davidgreen5099 4 года назад
Snoutist.
@mlgodzilla4206
@mlgodzilla4206 4 года назад
DeathbyPixels damn dude let the people enjoy stuff while recognizing what’s fact
@zalybrainlessgenius503
@zalybrainlessgenius503 4 года назад
Imagine if they had trunks as long as their necks o.o
@PurpleRhymesWithOrange
@PurpleRhymesWithOrange 4 года назад
Thank you. I have read about this trunk theory and always felt it did not fit with the type of teeth found in sauropod skulls. You addressed it from a couple of angles I knew nothing about.
@nemilyk
@nemilyk 4 года назад
Somewhat related, a study published in Zoologischer Anzeiger by Moyano and Giannini at the end of 2018, found it's unlikely that another famously trunked prehistoric family, the macraucheniidae, did not have trunks either for similar reasons when comparing the skulls to tapirs in particular.
@Nala15-Artist
@Nala15-Artist 4 года назад
Far more likely that macraucheniidae was more akin to the Saiga in nose features than a full on tapir-style trunk.
@nemilyk
@nemilyk 4 года назад
@@Nala15-Artist Quite, they found far more similarities with moose, for instance, than they did with trunked families like elephants and tapirs. Most artistic representations I've seen of them since the study show macraucheniidae with more camel-shaped faces. Only thing is that's going to take a long time to shift perception on because macrauchenia and co have been depicted as trunked for over a century...
@SpinozillaSaurian
@SpinozillaSaurian 4 года назад
Dougal Dixon: Allow me to introduce myself
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 4 года назад
*Dougal Dixon: Suppose that you were sitting down at this table. The napkins are in front of you, which napkin would you take? The one on your ‘left’? Or the one on your ‘right’? The one on your left side? Or the one on your right side? Usually you would take the one on your left side. That is ‘correct’ too. But in a larger sense on society, that is wrong. Perhaps I could even substitute ‘society’ with the ‘Universe’. The correct answer is that ‘It is determined by the one who takes his or her own napkin first.’ …Yes? If the first one takes the napkin to their right, then there’s no choice but for others to also take the ‘right’ napkin. The same goes for the left. Everyone else will take the napkin to their left, because they have no other option. This is ‘society’… Who are the ones that determine the price of land first? There must have been someone who determined the value of money, first. The size of the rails on a train track? The magnitude of electricity? Laws and Regulations? Who was the first to determine these things? Did we all do it, because this is a Republic? Or was it Arbitrary? NO! The one who took the napkin first determined all of these things! The rules of this world are determined by that same principle of ‘right or left?’! In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers’. In the case of this table, the ‘eldest’ or the ‘Master of the party’ will take the napkin first… Because everyone ‘respects’ those individuals.
@deoxyribomorph99
@deoxyribomorph99 4 года назад
*Nightmarish flashback to Man After Man ensues
@londoncintron680
@londoncintron680 4 года назад
Adrian Nelson Seasons Greasons
@felafnirelek8987
@felafnirelek8987 4 года назад
Unexpected JoJo refrences be like:
@velocipastor676
@velocipastor676 3 года назад
*Lumber intensifies*
@j-sant-animations8105
@j-sant-animations8105 3 года назад
“I mean really? Why is it called the Ice Age?” “Because... of all... the ICE?!”
@SnootchieBootchies27
@SnootchieBootchies27 4 года назад
Awesome video! Would have taken me 2 hours to get through if i stopped and looked up every term i didn't know, but most of it made sense anyways! As a layman or armchair evolutionary biologist, I also think it would be redundant (and "expensive") to have a long neck AND a long trunk.
@silvertheelf
@silvertheelf 4 года назад
No way, no chance for trunks to exist. I’d be able to believe feathered ichthyosaurs before I believe trunked sauropods.
@diegocaceresmarquez5007
@diegocaceresmarquez5007 4 года назад
Estás anclado en el pasado, deberías abrir la mente y estar abierto a nuevas experiencias e ideas, por cosas como esas te extinguiste hace millones de años. Renovarse o morir! (Ni puta idea de como se escribe esto en inglés, lo siento).
@timothymoore8549
@timothymoore8549 4 года назад
King Ammonite I think that ichthyosaurs were probably terrifying looking like really scary looking I call them Horror Dolphins
@rac1equalsbestgame853
@rac1equalsbestgame853 4 года назад
Hoop Doodle They have scaleless blunbber, just like dolphins
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 4 года назад
@@diegocaceresmarquez5007 Sorry, I don't speak burrito.
@sergioramirez924
@sergioramirez924 4 года назад
@@diegocaceresmarquez5007 ay do babes
@firegator6853
@firegator6853 4 года назад
i have my own speculation: sauropods with so much "free" area in the front of the skull and this little bony crest like thing like in 3:06 had a bump like beluga's and if not a big crest that the colours showed sexual dimorphism correct me if im wrong but it looks like something is missing from there that doesnt mean that their heads would not look like we show them now but you know
@northropi2027
@northropi2027 4 года назад
There are a lot of reconstructions that do things like that. Saurian's (scrapped) Alamosaurus, while sorta crazy in overall body colors, had a big blue nose bulb thing, and a lot of reconstructions in the video appear to fill that space in in one way or another. One of the episodes of "Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong," if I may shill for that series, also brought up how the forehead nostrils have fallen out of favor and it's generally agreed that a fleshy nose was present ahead of the naris.
@firegator6853
@firegator6853 4 года назад
@Richard Collins we don't need him he is so stupid the only think he knows about dinosaurs is their taste
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 4 года назад
The redundancy aspect is the what I always considered the most convincing argument against the sauropod trunk hypothesis. With the longest necks in evolutionary history what would a couple of extra meters of reach avail these animals? Sauropod diversity in the paleontological record reveals there was a large range in neck lengths among the genera discovered. It would be _far_ easier to evolve a slightly longer neck for additional reach than to develop an entirely novel anatomical structure or organ for the same purpose.
@jonstfrancis
@jonstfrancis 4 года назад
What is the chance that the unusual nasal cavity was used for sound? I love the thought of them blowing a distinct call from high up.
@bendykirby4828
@bendykirby4828 2 года назад
Always funny to find out some crackpot hypothesis I thought of in the shower was seriously considered by professionals for a while.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 4 года назад
Thank you for this, I will rewatch this later as well. Lots of info.
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy 4 года назад
Thank you! I'm glad you got something out of it.
@Alfonzo_the_Marine_Iguana
@Alfonzo_the_Marine_Iguana 4 года назад
Therapist: Trunked sauropods aren't real. They can't hurt you. Trunked sauropods: *thumbnail*
@macnutz4206
@macnutz4206 4 года назад
A trunk would have been a very heavy thing to hang from the end of such a long neck. The anatomical physics seems very wrong. It would have been a neck breaker if you think of how the trunk is used and how those long necks are actually constructed.
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo 4 года назад
Looks like a star wars character. 😂
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 4 года назад
Mind tricks don't work on him. Only money.
@craigkdillon
@craigkdillon 4 года назад
Agree with the analysis. I think they had long tongues, like giraffes, to assist in grabbing branches and stripping leaves. The peg like teeth were used for cutting the gathered material from the tree, then swallowed whole. I have never read any discussion about Sauropod tongues. Why not?? I think they were important.
@loszhor
@loszhor 4 года назад
That thumbnail one gives me nightmares.
@broderp
@broderp 3 года назад
Sauropods with trunks look like they belong in a Dr. Suess book.
@thenerdbeast7375
@thenerdbeast7375 2 года назад
small brain: Sauropods had receded nostril openings for trunks. big brain: Sauropods had receded nostrils for a large fleshy chamber to amplify calls for communication. (one I personally believe) galaxy brain: Sauropods had beaks.
@SoulstrikerV
@SoulstrikerV 4 года назад
Next time, on Dinosaurs Had These: Tyrannosaurus had large ears. Triceratops had shelled bodies. Velociraptors had horns. Pterodactyls had six limbs.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 4 года назад
That sounds like it would need absolutely irrefutable evidence.
@elijahblechman8633
@elijahblechman8633 4 года назад
Nothing sort of a perfectly preserved sauropod. Or the unlikely discovery of molke membe
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy 4 года назад
Fascinating video, with the technology we have maybe some day we’ll find out the truth about the sauropod trunk theory!
@Rayron24
@Rayron24 4 года назад
when you think about it, they have a trunk, and at the end of it is their head
@yallneedjesus5465
@yallneedjesus5465 2 года назад
I porpose an alternative hypothesis regarding the anatomy of the sauropod skull: like the species of deer that's from Russia that has expanded nostrils for better temperature regulation.
@silviu4248
@silviu4248 4 года назад
I had to think my whole life when I saw that thumbnail.
@dener-7412
@dener-7412 4 года назад
Can you plz talk about the " sauropods had beaks " hypothesis next time
@lordgrunwalder1607
@lordgrunwalder1607 4 года назад
interesting
@dinosauracademy6617
@dinosauracademy6617 4 года назад
very professional and thank you cause now every time i would draw a amargasaurus i would have to add a trunk with its face as well lol
@dinosauracademy6617
@dinosauracademy6617 4 года назад
@@Zakimals i was just making a funny joke
@antsfinland2760
@antsfinland2760 4 года назад
@@Zakimals r/wooosh
@Immortal_BP
@Immortal_BP 4 года назад
just makes me even more curious how dinosaurs truly looked
@ryarod
@ryarod 4 года назад
I am not all the way through the video. I however think I can safely say, given the exhibits, I am skeptical of sauropods having trunks. I would however like to suggest that maybe some sauropods could have had long, prehensile tongues like a giraffe does today.
@lordodysseus
@lordodysseus 4 года назад
I mean, it's a cool idea. But as soon as I saw the title and thumbnail I kinda knew this was going to be a debunking video. Not because I'm an expert on trunks and sauropods and stuff. But because I knew that having such a huge neck is already heavy enough and adding an elephant trunk is just too much weight. It would also probably be way too much work for the heart. It's just not worth it.
@ErnestAutist
@ErnestAutist Месяц назад
Isn't the thing in the thumb-nail the same creature Luke Skywalker was getting green milk from?
@tom5720
@tom5720 4 года назад
More dinosaur stuff your so good at it
@Tiamat_Stan24
@Tiamat_Stan24 4 года назад
Next, we'll get oceangoing Spinosaurus with trunk
@RudraDirtTrails
@RudraDirtTrails 4 года назад
5:53: Imma be the apex predator. Imma hunt deinonychus
@AnicentLich
@AnicentLich 3 года назад
Yes
@seadog915
@seadog915 4 года назад
I'm glad you pointed out that it would be redundant, since they have already evolved the long neck and tail.
@PapaBrejj
@PapaBrejj 4 года назад
Trunks are beneficial for animals with a lack of head/neck mobility, in order to reach distant vegetation. Animals such as Giraffes, and presumably Sauropods, have excellent head/neck mobility in the form of elongated & flexible necks.
@dannybuttdog5281
@dannybuttdog5281 4 года назад
Whats this stem whale he briefly mentions
@Zakimals
@Zakimals 4 года назад
Just search whales with trunks. Ben g Thomas did a video on it
@ladymercy5275
@ladymercy5275 4 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makaracetus
@crazyviking24
@crazyviking24 4 года назад
While unlikely from a fossil standpoint, the trunked sauropod you use in the thumbnail would make a cool Star Wars or Sci-Fi creature.
@theturkey1523
@theturkey1523 4 года назад
My trunk is bigger
@Waverider-Zeta
@Waverider-Zeta 4 года назад
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@d4v0r_x
@d4v0r_x 4 года назад
a junk for every trunk! -bernie 2020
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 4 года назад
@Jacob Buller Could I touch it?
@nopespray3724
@nopespray3724 4 года назад
My trunk is thicker
@Fumango
@Fumango 4 года назад
bees make honey *I make cummy*
@AATT-py7tn
@AATT-py7tn 4 года назад
Sorry Paleo guy, I'm all in on this one. dinosaurs had trunks, feathers, and tentacles.
@steel_inquisitor6652
@steel_inquisitor6652 4 года назад
I’m just going to say that a trunk may evolve with the neck not for food but so it didn’t have to bend it’s massive neck to drink water
@TonyMontana-mv3ib
@TonyMontana-mv3ib 4 года назад
There's a story from a cryptid that is similar to a sauropod description in the wild Africa that mentions a trunk in the characteristics. That's crazy
@angeliquebarbey8340
@angeliquebarbey8340 4 года назад
I have heard of this hypothesis before long ago! For me it makes no sense and it is already amazing that their heads in adults could be raised so high in the first place, far, far higher than any giraffe and a tall giraffe would have looked like a toy animal in comparison to an adult brachiosaur! They already had extraordinarily long necks or at least most of them did, which must be more useful then a long trunk with a short neck! What makes good sense to me is that most sauropods should have been able to crane their necks mostly vertically from up above their shoulders! At least insofar as the ones which fed high up into the trees of the time which is not all of them and yet modern illustrators most usually do not portray them this way!
@toamaori
@toamaori 4 года назад
it also takes a fair amount of brainpower to control a trunk... that sauropods don't seem to have
@maxdurbin3033
@maxdurbin3033 4 года назад
I was trying to poop when I saw your thumnail and it unsettled me enough interrupt my progress
@honieethesolarpunk4895
@honieethesolarpunk4895 4 года назад
Things just got more fun
@UATU.
@UATU. 4 года назад
Sauropods with long necks and floppy trunks would have been bullied to extinction.
@corvus_da
@corvus_da 3 года назад
0:02 That head shape and the spikes look interesting. Is it likely that they actually looked like that?
@AnicentLich
@AnicentLich 3 года назад
Yes, i guess
@Meegz0
@Meegz0 4 года назад
trunked sauropods are something right outta my nightmares.
@bjarnivalur6330
@bjarnivalur6330 4 года назад
I don't know why thinking of a trunk as a proboscis makes me so uncomfortable, whenever I hear the term, the first thing that comes to my mind is the needle-like feeding tubes some insects have.
@little_isalina
@little_isalina 4 года назад
Also, don't the sauropods' long necks already serve most of the purposes a trunk would evolve for in a large animal? That being allowing the animal to browse without having to waste large amounts of energy moving its entire body around and straining its limbs by bending down or rearing up all the time. While a trunk might have additional advantages, there just doesn't seem to be any pressure to evolve one.
@theGreaterAwareness
@theGreaterAwareness 4 года назад
1:32 The trunk reminds me of an octopus tentacle in this shot - I think because of the waves in the tissue.
@noelhutchins7366
@noelhutchins7366 4 года назад
I interject the idea that sauropods, spinosaurus and several other fossils like dimetrodon had steeply pyramidical muscular blubbery profiles without the spinobifida or serpentine aspects proposed so far. My view, such as massive trapezeous muscles and floating shoulder blades and prehensile tails; renders the sauropods inelegantly tapering from their blubbery hump to a trunk's tiny snout, the cranium being almost indistinguishable save the eyes, the legs joined by arches of dermis, scaffolded by communal creatures.
@Boneskullzy
@Boneskullzy 4 года назад
I guess we will never truly know what they looked like. Maybe some day in the far future we will have a visual time machine, something virtual that can travel back in time and show us what we want to see without us having to be present.
@marksadventurechannel8471
@marksadventurechannel8471 3 года назад
The pic of the sauropod with the raptors brings up an interesting idea. Since we suspect that the sauropods were herding animals, Could it be that they protected each other? Would they pick a raptor off of the back of a herd mate? How would the raptor come out of the encounter?
@tris-chan6419
@tris-chan6419 4 года назад
I like the idea that they had cartilaginous spikes on their head and swung their heads around like a flail
@PrehistoricMagazine
@PrehistoricMagazine 4 года назад
Fantastic channel just discovered it
@Nvcturnal
@Nvcturnal 4 года назад
Ngl the trunked sauropod in the thumbnail do be lowkey vibin tho
@Shaden0040
@Shaden0040 4 года назад
Recent fossil evidence shows that sauropods may have had beaks covered in keratin, similar to the beaks substance of Tucans and other hornbills.
@deadmeme8973
@deadmeme8973 4 года назад
They did have big noses. That is, macronarians had big noses. It's in the name. The difference is that a trunk is actually anatomically not possible while a large nose is.
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy 4 года назад
Very true.
@catshepherd3102
@catshepherd3102 4 года назад
The Indian Makara monster was shown as an amalgam of crocodile, elephant and peacock. Your hypothesis of a trunked dinosaur may support this since dinosaurs were the link between reptiles and birds.
@alx42013
@alx42013 4 года назад
Behemoth Didn't have a trunk...
@Picassoturtlenumba5
@Picassoturtlenumba5 4 года назад
I've followed this. While the trunk concept doesn't pan out. Do you think the blood vessels going to the area may have been in service to something similar to a Turkey Snood or Wattle? Perhaps for displays? I've also heard that Sauropods may have sported beaks that surrounded the teeth.
@willjennings7191
@willjennings7191 4 года назад
I think that the sauropod diet and feeding mechanisms are best compared to an arboreal version of the whale shark, where a motive force is applied to food via gravity instead of water current.
@sasquatchrex3564
@sasquatchrex3564 4 года назад
Great video very informative ! 👌
@Mydarkarts23
@Mydarkarts23 4 года назад
Interesting I just learn something now Great video
@Sabatuar
@Sabatuar 4 года назад
I see that thumbnail and immediately get Last Jedi flashbacks.
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 4 года назад
Gotta milk that space manatee.
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 4 года назад
Are there any sauropods that have short, or at least not very long necks? There is usually an oddball in every family.
@smitty1647
@smitty1647 4 года назад
damn i thought you were gonna say why sauropods do have high placed nostrils
@ianrandle2780
@ianrandle2780 2 года назад
What is the skull like on the elephant seal? Their 'trunk' is used to make noises for mating and display.
@minted1841
@minted1841 4 года назад
Awesome. Mind boggling..............
@gyrrakavian
@gyrrakavian 4 года назад
I personally like the idea of some sauropods (such as Brachiosaurus) might have had something akin to a cetacean melon organ.
@zimtak6418
@zimtak6418 4 года назад
Based off the model you used in the thumbnail, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that they may have had trunks. Yes, the long necks they had could have replaced the purpose of having a trunk, but having a short trunk doesn't seem that ridiculous. A large amount of cartilage, or some other material mammals just don't make, could have helped support a relatively small trunk. Perhaps the reason why the shape of the teeth and mouth indicates that they were used for stripping the branches is because the trunk was never used to strip the leaves off branches or pick up an entire log like an elephant does, it was simply used to help guide the branches into their mouth and then the mouth and the neck did all the work of actually stripping the branches. I personally think they most likely didn't have any kind of trunk, but still, you seem too quick and confident in shooting down the theory with only limited info that doesn't definitively prove anything.
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