Truth about good aim on Apex Legends feat. SoaR hollow 

Are you serious? Someone is mad coping

@@Frostvul ironic

Shocking that someone made this comment. I'm like, totally shocked dude.

Aye beam with a flatline 3x on roller from range and you'll know how shite it is

Yeah, cause you don't need skill to be good with a controller

i am the best when i have a good day, nothing in my mind and just give a fck what happens while gaming. just having fun equals in damn good games with roller type aim.

do more podcasts

very helpful! i been watching it in bits and pieces and already noticed improvement a half hour in the video and im not bullshitting xD , so far it helped me realize my sense was too high and that i prefer a smaller mouse cause i like to use my wrist. you and hollow should do livestreams like this where yous just talk about like common things you see that people could work on or take questions from viewers , i would definitely listen, for some reason i love listening to yous, its such a vibe

Well I mean also the skill ceiling for mnk is more or less infinite but not on controller

@@truckmuncher8998 there is definitely a finite skill ceiling on mnk for aim thats why one of the big complaints is the inhuman reaction speed to changes in strafe direction that will never be done as fast by a human our bodies can only react so fast

After putting my steam controller settings to my preferences let’s say I can insta holster without holding triangle has been such a game changer. I feel a little bit better with movement but not the same with MnK, but at the end of the day 80% people have the same strafe in ranked and won’t counter any crazy MnK movement anymore since everyone switched inputs 😅

u think i should switch to roller ? im really on edge to doing it but i need the confirmation that its better...

@@Tobbles1 so only gripe is movement ? i think i can manage that

@@BADv3Don’t do it man. Is it easier? Sure. Doesn’t feel nearly as rewarding, though. The game is significantly more fun on MnK if you ask me.

@@EliReid-tl4kl im gonna ask u this tho, on mnk i need at least an hour to feel my aim is starting to average some good damage. i only play for one hour max then hop off and come back later just to need that warm up again. roller does not put me through that hassle. on mnk my aim is horrible honestly and i have a life so im not ready to just sit there and aim train cuz im here to enjoy a game not train for it like its my job.

Yeah it works now, so does 8000 polling :) Was recorded last week

.3 aim assist

Ok ,do you want a trophy for that ?

@@saintcartier9288Nope, but don’t act like your “good” when theres people out here that are actually doing it themselves unassisted. You just get no respect tbh lol. When i say all this tho im not talking about console players either because they are forced to use controllers. Im talking about the losers on pc using a controller.

@@JblountSZN yeah its fine dude, we are not playing for ALGS. No we don't act we are good, we just want to play without sweating our ass off in every session. Respect? How petty you gotta be to demand respect for playing games? Are you saving the world or some shit? Have you not had more things to worry about in this game? Hackers? Servers? Matchmaking? no? aim assist? Get a fucking a life

Playing MNK Makes it more rewarding when i crap on people tbh. Theres no computer program holding my hand helping me aim, it was just raw human input that got me the kill.

@@JblountSZN yeah and what, all these hours spend on aimlabs or kovaks, just for that, but controller players can do this and better with consistency without warm? No man, the life isnt this game.

@@Zencho639It sucks but sometimes you just gotta deal with getting beamed by some guy sitting on a sofa 20 feet from his tv sipping mountain dew😂. Also you gotta up your movement. Theres times i shit on controller players simply with movement.

I was guilty of always looking for the next best tool when I first switched and although not the best way to do it it did help me figure out what I prefer and what works for me. The amount of variables is actually dizzying 😵‍💫

In some cases a better computer that provides higher fps might fix bad fundamentals/habits/placebos. For example; I have played no-fill apex as an advanced movement player who can do all fancy stuff with 100% consistency such as all type of bunny hop-lurch-shooting, all type of mantle jumping, all type of directional supergliding, ghost jumping etc. The problem is; my aim is getting worse while doing those movement techs. But let's say I don't do any movement, let's say I just strafe left and right and shoot the enemy, then my aim is very good. You might think it's a skill issue that I need to fix. But that would be wrong. Its been 2 years I've been playing on between 60 to 100 fps on a potato pc. Averaging 60 to 70 fps in World's Edge Fragment buildings, which is my home. I'm not kidding when I say this, Fragment feels home to me more than my actual home irl due to how much time I spent in those buildings lol. I assure you, I am not your casual player who whines and cries over not getting good. I played this game everyday wholeday. I gave it my soul. At the end of everyday I watched my own daily 2hr+ gameplay recordings to spot my own mistakes and I made sure that I do not make those mistakes again. Please, whatever you say, but do not say that I need to get good. I can not get good anymore, because there is no more room to improve(there will only be more room to get better if I start to play on higher fps) It took 2 years of hard training to accept the truth that it was LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for an ultra-fast-pace movement player to play on this much low fps and have good aim while doing movement. It's an fps game and you simply just need fps especially if you're flicking hard and doing advanced movements that require flicking. I know most of you will want to say "bruh there are people playing well on 60 fps with insane aim." Yeap, I agree. But none of them is using advanced movement. Doing a simple fatigue bounce and killing an enemy is not advanced movement. Go watch Xzylas or Movementless if you want to see true advanced movement. Consider this long comment as multiple answers to multiple possible questions. I basically answered all the possible stupid questions that might have come from other people.

Not to be d*ckhead but skill-wise only Hollow is "pro worthy". Dazs has very limited time to play the game and the rest, mostly pub players.

new? didnt notice. can ya explain?

@@daanishtaaseen2507 There is whole new tab when you try to report someone.

Not sure what you mean by accuracy percentile, but I'm Master's Complete with 2 GM scores on Voltaic Aimlabs and controller still seems OP to me. On R5 my K/D against MnK is 1.04 while it's 0.39 against controller. Top R5 controller players have 40-45% accuracy while MnK have 30-35%. I'm not here to complain since I just care about my own self improvement but not sure how this can be considered a "skill issue". What do you think MnK does well enough that it can overcome the aim discrepancy? Movement? Also that's impressive that you were able to get pred with both MnK and controller!

As someone with hella time on my hands, and friends who also have hella time on their hands, I can confidently say that this is not true lol.

I think you misunderstand a lot of things in terms of improving at something. Sure, having more disposable time to put in practice, it isn't solely about the amount of time you put in, but HOW you put in said time. 1-2 hours of practice a day can get you just as far as someone who incorrectly practices 8 hours a day. Very hard to fully understand everything you wrote here, as there is clearly a bit of a language barrier, but you thinking every good player plays all day is very wrong.

What 😂

What are you brabbling about

So fix your tool (computer)

yeah all of that is fixable...

Don't forget about genetics & the lack of natural talent, if you lack either just quit

Aim assist makes my recoil control worse but it is op, genetics is just a b!tch

Shit players will be shit regardless of assistance, but the argument from most people, isn't that aim assist just makes a shit player good, it's that it makes decent players better than they should be aim wise.

@@mathiaschristensen1194 listen to your argument. You’re saying that playing against decent players is upsetting somehow… which I’m not buying that that’s what’s happening either way

@@ezshottah3732 That's an oversimplification of what I said, but whatever helps push your narrative I guess.

@@mathiaschristensen1194 my narrative!? Your explanation was already simple I didn’t have to do that for you. My experience is that far too often I’m getting knocked in 7 -8 hits from an AR meanwhile I can’t even one clip the guy that I got the jump on. Either my settings are affecting the “unfair advantage” of aim assist or I’m absolutely garbage at the game. Average pc players have far more advantages than console imo. They got frame advantage(which is constant) and movement. The argument about aim assist is a joke, that casuals like in the comments of these videos blow out of proportion. Imo

damn I’m cooked.

genetics may determine your maximum potential, but practice will make you better than anyone who doesn't practice.

Ong I have around 15,000 hour mark on fps games but my aim is still garbage or mediocre but sometimes I have a period where my aim is god tier which is what it should be 24/7 at this rate. I use the range to practice & I can easily hit 200-400 damage at 140m with all the guns almost but in game I can't hit shit & die to people who never practiced & im convinced horizon gets increased aim assist. Aim assist doesn't help me much I find it makes controlling vertical recoil really difficult. I play on 4-3 & 4-4 linear no dz & still that initial kick up from the recoil when you first start shooting is throwing me off (I know how to center, aim smooth, mirror & counter, etc)

Genetics? U mean your ability to synchronize several muscles in your arm? And hand eye coordination? Anyone can definitely get to a very high level.

@@IdkWhatToCallThisBruhaim train.

Are you saying rollers are NOT no skill plebs? These people willingly play on a supposedly inferior input in PC lobbies, why? It's really simple, they want that disgusting aim assist helping them because they cannot aim without it

@Amalia19 recoil control is insane on mnk, as is movement. If there weren't upsides and downsides to both, there wouldn't be anyone on mnk at the pro level. There are also people with disabilities (like myself) that can only use a controller because some of my fingers don't work. "They picked up a controller because they can't aim" is a gross oversimplification.

Nobody uses recoil control that much in apex it’s all about aim smoothing because it negates most of the recoil on any gun If you have literal disabilities so you play controller that’s fine The problem is most of controller players like 90% don’t have disabilities they just use it because it’s easier with the aim assist to kill enemies they don’t have the most important part skill of aim which is tracking because it’s mostly done by AA it’s not your actual thumbs doing the tracking it’s the AA controller players can deny it all they want but it’s already factual that AA is OP close range which is most of the fights you do in apex

Nah man, I think this video applies for controller too. Consider your controller a tool, a very impactful tool. The key thing being that your own aim-skill exists alongside your input. There's a reason professional MnK players can switch to controller and nearly master it in a relatively short amount of time. They accurately identify issues and constantly adjust their own input until they see the result they expect. Controller still has a large skill spectrum, it's just easy to get complacent and plateau when aim assist gives you a false idea of how effective your inputs are.

@@Amalia19 yet most controller players still suck and lose to mnk players

I haven't watched him in 2 years, but he only did that every now and then. But ofc it is not the only reason you die to controller, but it definitely is one of them in certain situations. No need to be disingenuous here.

it usually is the sole reason if both teams play their best plays unless you hard grief yourself

You're saying this from outside the club though. When you hop on MnK and you realize how fucking tedious it is to 1v1 a half decent controller player in their natural habitat (Close range) you'll feel the tilt too.

And of course that comes from ignorant controller player. Hollow is mostly playing pubs so his reasoning comes from that in pubs, ltms etc everything is mostly close range which gives controller player a clear advantage. If you've only played controller (0.6 AA on top of that) its not hard to see why you simply cannot process why MnK players are pissed everytime they die to an AI on supposedly MnK PLATFORM. I mean, if the game did most of the aiming for me i wouldn't bother looking deeper into it either, i'd just feel good about my false superiority, delusionally brag how good i am at the game. Reactivity is the difference between winning and losing a 1v1 so one input being given the hardest part of aim to master is ridiculous. And even if you master reactivity, no human ever will react at 0ms, its humanly impossible.

you will never understand how frustrating it is to play against a controller user until you try it yourself with mnk. Also just interjecting what was said on the video, your tool is an expression of your skill. The fact that aim assist is part of your tool immediately gives you an unfair advantage. Aim assist needs tuning to make it feel more human-like.