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Ever tried a really short delay? Shorter than slapback?
It's a great way to fatten your tone and punch out of a mix.
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@rikkousa
@rikkousa Год назад
My wife often tells me how much she enjoys my short delay
@aleksandarmakedonski8282
@aleksandarmakedonski8282 Год назад
What a pun. Clap clap (hands free)
@JPTyler
@JPTyler Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hillcosparky1050
@hillcosparky1050 Год назад
@@aleksandarmakedonski8282 When the reply tops the original comment 👏 Bravo
@WeirdBrainGoo
@WeirdBrainGoo Год назад
My friend doesn't get the joke.
@omertuzer
@omertuzer Год назад
😂
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye Год назад
This is pretty much how I use delay 90% of the time. Instead of reverb, which I find makes things mushy too easily.
@maximusfrank2835
@maximusfrank2835 Год назад
If you mix this with really really short reverb and blend it in like… 2% it’ll make it just a little thicker haha
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye Год назад
@@maximusfrank2835 Yeah the spring reverb in my amp is always on, but just barely.
@geroffmilan3328
@geroffmilan3328 Год назад
Same, did it one day & never looked back: sometimes I stack this with another delay at 1200-1500ms to do something more ambient
@Riikkyy
@Riikkyy Год назад
It’s a great way to get that compressed sound when you use a slight delay. I like to use it when I do country stuff
@wea69420
@wea69420 Год назад
depending on what reverb you're using, try filtering off all of the low end. A high pass at around 300 Hz makes all the difference when trying to make reverb sit where it should.
@sebastiancarter9570
@sebastiancarter9570 Год назад
one of the most mind blowing things I learned while studying sound design is that most effects (reverb, flanger, phaser, doubler, dimension) are just different forms of delay with eq’s/lfo’s/panning
@remotepinecone
@remotepinecone Год назад
just look at the history of reverb and you will see it simply technological limitations that defined the difference in the past. I've always liked modern delay better than reverb, for the exact reasons you stated, as it offers more control.
@ildarrrr2
@ildarrrr2 Год назад
PS-3 by Boss can make reverb, flanger, phaser, doubler, dimension, octaver, chorus, etc.
@vincemincevince
@vincemincevince Год назад
i didn’t know that thanks for the info.
@daviddragan610
@daviddragan610 10 месяцев назад
The behringer fx600 guitar pedal has delay, flanger, chorus, phaser, octave, tremolo and whike playing around with the settings I realised they all sounded very very similar, as if they were different settings on the same board... which they are!
@cacornett58
@cacornett58 25 дней назад
.....and are all timed based effect.
@alexsharp3481
@alexsharp3481 Год назад
I use a 17ms delay and pan my signal left and right to simulate two guitarists playing the same thing. Works incredibly well when playing live and one guitarist drops out for a solo. As people mentioned below, I should have added that they are EQd just differently enough to sound similar while avoiding phase cancellation.
@growskull
@growskull Год назад
i just tried this its super interesting thanks for the shout
@xebio6
@xebio6 Год назад
Left/right as in dry/wet?
@Rocco1123
@Rocco1123 Год назад
Damn that's a good idea. What delay do you use?
@alexsharp3481
@alexsharp3481 Год назад
@@Rocco1123 I do this all in my Axe Fx. I use the analog delay in the unit for that trick but there are plenty that would work
@Rocco1123
@Rocco1123 Год назад
@Alex Sharp Ah gotcha, its probably extremely easy with Axe effects. With my DL4 I suppose I would have to have it in a seperate chain to get the same effect?
@majortellandrus2552
@majortellandrus2552 Год назад
Great way to get fullness in your tone, like an automatic double track. Can't believe I haven't thought of this
@Linguae_Music
@Linguae_Music Год назад
Just... dont use it as a replacement for double tracking though xD
@Yourbankaccount
@Yourbankaccount Год назад
​@@Linguae_MusicWhy? People literally have been doing that for ages
@Linguae_Music
@Linguae_Music Год назад
@@Yourbankaccount Regular double tracking will always create a more realistic sense of width and thickness than a "delay-double" can. Because it has natural inconsistencies between tracks, which both sounds more real and doesnt present any real chance of phase issues while mixing. If you are panning the delay and original signal differently(i probably would) then your creating a haas effect. Which will cause a consistent, and probably noticable, phase interference when played back on a mono system. (Like a phone, or bluetooth speaker, or at the club) Basically double tracking sounds more natural? And doesnt present any chance for any noticable phase interference in the mix. The delay double sounds more like you are a very reflective room. And not as much like two guitars playing? They are both useful tools to make your guitar sound bigger.... but they're just different :D One may work better than the other depending on the vibe of the song your working on... But in that case they wouldnt be interchangable. Hehe But that's not to say that doing the delay double isnt cool, but i wouldnt consider them interchangeable from a mixing perspective. I do enjoy the delay-double(slap-back delay?) effect as well! Maybe im being too anal about this? XD
@blindhtownkilla
@blindhtownkilla Год назад
I could see it as a great tool to get that doubled sound live but in the studio, probably stick with regular double tracking
@WeekendWarriorGuitars
@WeekendWarriorGuitars 3 месяца назад
Very nice and the Les Paul sounds fantastic!
@jakefairley6993
@jakefairley6993 10 месяцев назад
Adding a short delay to you lead tone is a really nice way to help solos cut through and fill up space
@micsunday14
@micsunday14 6 месяцев назад
Oh man. I'll never be able to unhear that pap riff
@chaos4316
@chaos4316 Год назад
Awesome tip. Been playing 25 years and still feel like a noob. That’s a clever way of mimicking a vintage amp with that grit/break-up on tap. Love it. Subscribed
@Total_DaveB
@Total_DaveB Год назад
These shorts are great. Wonderful tone tips Perfect editing. No surprise! Thanks for all you do Mick.
@bringyourownsnake980
@bringyourownsnake980 Год назад
What full, robust, beautiful sound. Classic.
@chaoticembrace6984
@chaoticembrace6984 Год назад
Brilliant stuff Mick !!!!....much love + respect from Chicago!!!
@FishManBlues
@FishManBlues Месяц назад
I’ve done this for years with one of my Carbon Copies and it’s always such a fun sound. Works really well when recording, too.
@grovesyelite9015
@grovesyelite9015 Год назад
Awesome. I've been doing this forever. Thought I was weird 🤣 I like the 'live' sound it gives me.
@wesebeling
@wesebeling Год назад
That is a damn good idea! Thanks, my dude!
@FreddieBaker87
@FreddieBaker87 9 месяцев назад
My absolute favorite way of boosting solo or rhythm leads. Sometimes I run this before my gain stage.
@obscuritystunt
@obscuritystunt Год назад
one of my favorite vocal treatments is a 10MS delay on only L or R channel to create sense of spaciousness
@remotepinecone
@remotepinecone Год назад
IMHO sounds like a wet small room reverb. delay is so versatile I love it.
@andrewhamson435
@andrewhamson435 Месяц назад
had one of those free the tones for a while i loved it !
@squirrelslockdowngamingani1284
really sounds like alot of the guitar recordings for the maximum overdrive soundtrack
@gnamp
@gnamp Год назад
Sounds exactly like playing in an empty bare-walled room of about 5x5m²
@mikeymumblesreal
@mikeymumblesreal 23 дня назад
Works great on vocals too.
@tappyoklahoma
@tappyoklahoma Год назад
never thought of a short delay before.. wow --- yes - i second "the most informative video" sentiment --- in the history of youtube and possibly music history... i never knew the knob can physically go below 1 oclock... absolute game changer.
@KyTaundry
@KyTaundry Год назад
Great tip there, sometimes when I use delay I can go a little overboard, lol!
@ranman1959
@ranman1959 Год назад
I had a Roland Cube 40XL that let you easily set the delay to 30, 50, 70 or 90 ms. Used that nearly all the time.
@D.Guitar
@D.Guitar 10 месяцев назад
When you get it REALLY Short. It's like a Doubler in the studio mixer
@NoirEater
@NoirEater 10 месяцев назад
Love the short delay in my DD7 love how weird it gets. Also like using short delay with drums cause if done right it sound like there's more drums than there actually is. Like a galloping
@SergioCzerweny
@SergioCzerweny Год назад
I use always a 40ms delay if a stereo patch, in one channel to open the sound, kinda have 2 guitars/guitarists playing same. Other application is with a harmonist/harmonizer, to make the harmony more natural, not so blended to the base note/organ sound feel.
@jaycollins7288
@jaycollins7288 10 месяцев назад
When I used to play professionally back in the 80's I only used reverb on stage and no matter what when I heard myself played back from a recording, I always sounded dead. I discovered that a short repeat delay made the difference. I then went from sounding dead to fantastic full, and professional sound. I believe Robben Ford has also said he ALWAYS uses a short delay...ALWAYS!
@chipphillips8524
@chipphillips8524 Год назад
I’m just happy to see Mick with the LP ! 4 knobs and the truth
@colaboytje
@colaboytje Год назад
Love these shorts
@matthewsolina4920
@matthewsolina4920 Год назад
I like a quick slap back delay with one or two repeats. For country, and rockabilly stuff.
@arthurdurham
@arthurdurham Год назад
I didn't realize this isn't a common thing. I'll often use a very short delay to give the guitar (or even vocals) a subtle boost.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
Some people know it and use it, some people never tried it. Cheers!
@MrMystery666
@MrMystery666 Год назад
Absolutely love doubler delays makes a huge difference to rythym. Never tried mixing a doubler delay with a medium/long during solos.
@dedalomusic
@dedalomusic Год назад
I always go in between: what you consider short in the video (around 300ms) is what i consider a long delay time actually. And 40ms is way too short to me, and doesn't even sound like delay rather a doubler like you mention. I like to go from 80ms to 200ms with some decent feedback as well
@DeceptiveSS
@DeceptiveSS Год назад
I have seen a trick where you add a VST delay while multitracking but not being a fraction of the given BPM, and it really beefs up the sound. Tracks 3 and 4 really benefit from that trick.
@scottdarock8065
@scottdarock8065 Год назад
Cool content. I actually discovered this wonderful sound/tone maybe 3yrs ago just playing around and I use it quite frequently, just with my Marshall cranked up high with a little short delay. Wonder lead sound but I've also have written some solid riffs with it as well. Helps with the harmonics. Nice work in your presentation, gives a great " image " on the sound and how it exactly works.
@user-rs1fo1dg4m
@user-rs1fo1dg4m Год назад
I use somewhere around a 250-300ms delay, it seems like it just gives me a thicker or fuller sound. Maybe it’s just me but that’s what I notice
@maxwellwinter2114
@maxwellwinter2114 Год назад
The trick is to “up pick” every note with a fast delay, listen to Big Sur Moon by Buckethead and you’ll see what I mean. Makes everything sound so much cooler
@jonasbrinkworse5436
@jonasbrinkworse5436 Год назад
Me, a synth guy: wait, is this a guitarist thing? Not having tried to make delay sound like you're playing when on the crapper. I can only wholeheartedly support this great guy encouraging experimenting with those knobs intensively. There are treasures hidden in most of the corners round knobs make.
@mikemuncy7464
@mikemuncy7464 Год назад
This was the 80’s! And I still do it!
@arsensugar1265
@arsensugar1265 Год назад
Analog delay is great thing for this actually you get massive tone
@milessmith6611
@milessmith6611 Год назад
I always have my delay set to the same setting every time using Paul Gilbert’s method. He says to imagine the end of Van Halen’s “Hang ‘Em High” where he hits a chord and it’s a very short delay with about 2-3 repeats. That’s always a sweet spot for me
@shaundomingue6509
@shaundomingue6509 Месяц назад
Excellent video post. Short and informative. Cheers.
@j.koppany
@j.koppany 3 месяца назад
You can use a really really short delay (like 14ms) to get the tone on Killer Queen! (Also crank the mids up)
@chuckshaw1593
@chuckshaw1593 Год назад
I have a short delay on constantly, a little slap back makes your sound just a little better.
@Reriiru
@Reriiru Год назад
I use my modulation delay as sort of a fat chorus that way. Works nicely.
@Chamule
@Chamule Год назад
one of the best places I’ve heard this is on Decrepit Birth’s Solar Impulse solo
@FalloutUrMum
@FalloutUrMum Год назад
I gotta try this out
@BrianAndersonTT
@BrianAndersonTT Год назад
Use them all at the same time 😉
@echoheadband
@echoheadband Год назад
Keeley’s 30ms doubler pedal rocks for this.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
It totally does!
@tjnugent62
@tjnugent62 Год назад
This is why I love slap back..
@ryanteacher8134
@ryanteacher8134 Год назад
The underground level in Mario games sound lol
@timbuckxxi9690
@timbuckxxi9690 Год назад
I like using that short delay.. Guitar sounds very dry without a little something on it..Cheers!
@poadude
@poadude Год назад
if any pedals are ping pong or even better have delay times for the left and right channel, if you leave about 10ms between the left and the right channel you can widen the stereo image of that doubling effect
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
Nice!
@gumpymcbarfbag3884
@gumpymcbarfbag3884 Год назад
Thank you !
@leonardolando2647
@leonardolando2647 Год назад
Great hint, gorgeous!
@marcrippee4365
@marcrippee4365 Год назад
Sounds like a great way to thicken up a sound!!! Reminds me of the John Lennon trick of duplicating a vocal and dragging it slightly to the left
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
Good shout!
@TheRoguetrooper21
@TheRoguetrooper21 11 месяцев назад
Awesome man🤘
@beaujpatt
@beaujpatt Год назад
John Petrucci famously runs a stereo rig with a 7ms delay on one side, running fully wet blend with no original signal in the delay. Great way to fill some space 👍🏼
@Christopherjazzcat
@Christopherjazzcat Год назад
Did this for the longest time for jazz gigs. Low in the mix it just fattens things up without getting in the way
@shayeasy
@shayeasy Год назад
sometimes I feel guilty using my delay pedal like this, but it does add something really special at the end of the chain and it’s an always on effect for me.
@JuanPerez-cg9rq
@JuanPerez-cg9rq Год назад
I think that this is what Mike Stern does to achieve part of his sound.
@a1d3nh0
@a1d3nh0 10 месяцев назад
Hey man I’m high right now and I wanna know if you can make a delay pedal into a delay pedal into a delay pedal sound good :-)
@rivereuphrates8103
@rivereuphrates8103 Год назад
Very like a lot of solo tracking in the 70's, just a tiny bit of room delay that set it apart from the rest of the tracks
@bartdwmusic1212
@bartdwmusic1212 Год назад
I use the JHS milkman for this! Pretty much always on 😄
@grantmasden4469
@grantmasden4469 Год назад
Awesome short! I always mine set to 40-80ms. No matter the genre
@locolocomal
@locolocomal Год назад
Sounds like natural the sound from the amp, you can record with that little bit of delay and make an ambiance that the you're in a room hearing somebody playing in real time
@cavalierx6099
@cavalierx6099 3 месяца назад
Slap back FTW
@TommyWashow
@TommyWashow Год назад
dude should be a private investigator i didnt recognize him at all with that beard
@MidwestKorky
@MidwestKorky Год назад
LOVE IT
@k-ondoomer
@k-ondoomer Год назад
I use a carolyine megabyte it's a weird lo fi delay with a preamp to distort the delay, if you set it to slap back timing just right it sounds like a fat double track
@dubzy4485
@dubzy4485 Год назад
This with pingpong delay makes the guitar really nice and stereo if you have stereo output
@VideoMask93
@VideoMask93 Год назад
My bass teacher showed me how to do this!
@TheIllynow
@TheIllynow Год назад
It's like putting it in it's own room - quite in your face 🤔
@FullMetalEnno
@FullMetalEnno Год назад
I use a delay with my helix, stereo out and one path has a really, really short delay. So that it kinda sounds like two guitars 😄
@BlueberryStinkFinger62
@BlueberryStinkFinger62 Год назад
I have the Electro Harmonix memory boy and memory toy I'll stay with them..
@g3ng4rb0i3
@g3ng4rb0i3 Год назад
It just reminds me that im playing in a really small venue in the middle of texas
@Justa-Fern
@Justa-Fern Год назад
A great trick to try and recreate the famous Randy Rhoads tone. Although Randy would actually double his guitar in Ozzy’s tracks, this is a great way to cut the effort in half and get the same results! Have fun!
@richnetts
@richnetts Год назад
Almost gives the impression of reverb with a bit of wobble?
@martysradioshow5979
@martysradioshow5979 Год назад
thanks mate
@moroboshidan7960
@moroboshidan7960 Год назад
It would be nice if a delay had a random option, between x and y millisecs, but without that pitch shifting that occurs when you change the speed. This would allow a random slap back that would sound closer to a really doubled guitar.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
You could modulate it a millisecond or three, but then you get chorus kinda. I guess the various doubling pedals do something along those lines.... but I think the really short delay and the doubled guitar are two different things. Cheers!
@xeztan
@xeztan Год назад
Great tip
@simonali1995
@simonali1995 2 месяца назад
I use delay as reverb most of the time with this setting
@goatfromhell666
@goatfromhell666 Год назад
You're giving away the best kept secret my dude
@adrianreyes4702
@adrianreyes4702 8 месяцев назад
Could you please do the same with slightly more distortion?
@zaturnneo
@zaturnneo Год назад
I started using a short delay after playing some Dimebag and Randy Rhodes stuff. It really makes a single guitar sound a lot fuller.
@seqouiaflame
@seqouiaflame Год назад
He just invented a chorus pedal.... amazing!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow Год назад
Nope. Chorus is when you split the signal, then treat one half to a short delay, say 20ms, then modulate that delay time very slightly to give vibrato. Mix that with the other half of the signal which is uneffected….. that’s chorus. Cheers!
@noodletribunal9793
@noodletribunal9793 Год назад
wow this is a great idea omg
@AndrewKozley
@AndrewKozley Год назад
The pedal looks like back to the future control panel.
@maxogle7749
@maxogle7749 Год назад
Yes I use a short delay most of the time. Especially if we have both electric guitars.
@zironcat5265
@zironcat5265 Год назад
I will try this thanks, i just need a delay pedal
@Kokopellli
@Kokopellli Год назад
The guy just invented a reverb
@DeaseNootz
@DeaseNootz Год назад
Here I am and I only use short delay lmao.
@glitchsister
@glitchsister Год назад
Delay not short enough, I managed to make my flight
@predatorofthehaters4987
@predatorofthehaters4987 Год назад
The buckethead trick 😅
@mugogrog
@mugogrog Год назад
What you get is room. When you think about it all room actually is is a very short delay (with some frequencies meddled with)
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa Год назад
I use short delay and some reverb on pedal steel to get a fuller sound
@adamwatts4937
@adamwatts4937 Год назад
Lol yes when I first got a delay pedal 😂
@KRAZEEIZATION
@KRAZEEIZATION Год назад
Which is better, No Delay or Odelay?
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