Trying out an obscure game engine 

Totally give Stride a shot. Don't trust one outdated video. This dude comes across as toxic about this topic. I downloaded Stride yesterday.... looks nothing like this video. Watch gamesfromscratch latest vid on topic.

@DeathbyZombiez The video isn't really that outdated. The engine still isn't as stable as the competition, but as I said at the end, that doesn't have to be a bad thing. If you're willing to put up with the issues and different quirks, it's really fun to work with. Going back to unity felt like using Roblox Studio with the amount of workaraounds you have to perform for fullscreen to work properly

From what I know, this video is the only Stride game devlog, so I'm gonna stick with calling it obscure

@@DockFrankenstein Not all developers make a living from RU-vid and Twitch, there were forums, there were problems, the devs who used the old Xenko are well aware of the problems they faced and it even seemed like the platform had been abandoned, there is a lot of history since 2014, but you are free to form beliefs and so you are free to call it whatever you want, ignoring the previous history and ignoring the developers who have worked on this platform. There's no reason to take it personally, I just wanted to explain that there was repercussion, use and problems faced, outside the "RU-vid/Twitch bubble", so I really hope you don't take unnecessary offense, I just wanted to bring context and more accurate information . I would be grateful if you could be understanding.

​@@hipnosreturn2 Calm down man

@@NimVim I'm calm, I just presented logical facts and historical context. People need to stop believing and living in bubbles, indie game development existed before RU-vid, Discord, TikTok and Twitch existed. I just expressed what needed to be said. 🧐

I knew the story of stride way before I even downloaded it on my computer, but that still doesn't change the fact that it's online presence is still nothing compared to things like godot, unity or even bevy. But in the end: who cares. It's a tool, some will call it obscure, others won't. The most important thing is for it to provide use for us. It doesn't matter how we will call it

Yeah I can't defend that either. Currently I use the editor very rarely and instead try doing as much as I can from code. There are ways of making a full code-only project but I still like having occasional access to a normal editor

@@DockFrankenstein When I used Unity the first time, the first thing I did was trying to create the whole scene, meshes, lights, colliders etc purely in code. This gives an important inside into the inner workings. But of course I used the editor predominantly in the end. Coming from a background where the games where all made in code (mobile Java apps), such an integrated editor was kind of a new thing.

Seems like less suffering, no thank you

@@DockFrankenstein hahaha

I don't really want to. I have godot on my list, since I eventually want to make my tools available for it, but cry engine seems abandoned and not that popular anymore

@@DockFrankenstein I wouldn't call it "abandoned" so much as Crytek falling under harsh times. The engine itself still sees use by some, Kingdome Come: Deliverance was made with it, and so was Hunt Showdown. Definitely not as popular as it once was, but personally I think it is of value if Crytek bounces back. It has a lot of good built-in tools, which shouldn't be surprising given it was made with FPS games in mind. Which also means that if you try to build something that isn't an FPS you will be faced with some very interesting issues (one look at KC:D's glitches should tell you that)

I have it on my list, but for now I'm a bit busy to learn new engines

@@DockFrankenstein yes take your time please give it an honest review I need it since I have read mix opinion about it now I'm lost

Yes, but you can just press F12 and view the real code in vs, since it's written in c#

I'd say for someone trying to run UE from source code is not something many people can afford. Stride is like a Humming Bird Compared that Monolith of Game Engine. Also people who don't have Software Engineering background will have hard time going into engine code of UE and trying to learn from it unless they really commit to the engine for at least a month (Considering they don't have to learn C++). In that regard engine written in C# is more approachable for those who are used to of Unity C# and can understand a lot more by looking at the Engine Code written in C#.

@@jackof4ll UE5 doesn't use normal C++. It's closer to C#.

I've heard good things about it, but I'm gonna have to try Godot first for the "Remote Inspector" that I've mentioned in the video

@@DockFrankenstein There's bevy-remote-devtools, but alas it hasn't been updated since bevy 0.7 (current is 0.11), meaning it's probably bitrotted by now (though shouldn't be too hard to get running). If it's just about inspection and not remote, though, bevy-inspector-egui is widely used and up to date. Should also not be too difficult to remote, but the bevy community generally seems to have tacitly agreed that in-game editors is the way to go.

The "remote inspector" is an external window made by me to view logs from my library qASIC. I need godot for UI. I'm running my own communication protocol, so I don't need to be bound to any engine

It is basically a degeneration....

No, it's the language that's wrong

@@DockFrankenstein please make your next video in british

Differentiating frameworks from engines is quite tough, but going by your definition, it is an engine. Stride has a visual editor and takes care of things like importing assets, audio playback, graphics pipeline. But if you're right, then I don't think we can call bevy an engine either, can we?

it is an engine? A framework would be renpy, monogame, fna, kivent....

It has an visual editor, so I'm not sure why you'd classify it as not an engine?

@morph611 Agreed.