Trying the NEW Treasure Hunter Rune 

Maybe something like collector/triumph additional gold per kill after completing all 5 bounties?

@@quawer1518 ye like 20 gold extra for every kill after completing it would be good enough

@@Nour-b1r Yeah, that would be decent without making it too OP.

@@Nour-b1r Its hard to compare with the CD runes, but 550 gold is easily worth 45 out of combat MS depending on champion. No rune gives you extra after getting 5 stacks, it is good how it is imo. You can basicly choose the passive as you can purchase whatever you want. The only point when it is in fact useless is at full item

+1 permanent gold from creeps for the rest of the game like cull or if that's too bad maybe something like a half TF passive

i thought so too but the issue is that supports dont need to spend gold anyway,they can have no items and still be useful,and if theyre gonna take hunter rune then relentless/ultimate is better

@@lefroste6370 that's true, it's still an option for mage supports if they feel like it's worth to give up ultimate hunter for an early game spike

@@Zugzwang__XXX taliyah support rune

Supports and junglers for sure

supports also can't afford to waste so much early game power going domination tree. All the others are far better for the early power most supports want

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@@klebersonnn had to read that twice xDDD

be a very good rune if you can successfully do an early invade. get 1 or 2 assists and +300gold on back before minions could snowball so much

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@@Hazel-mc3gy YES

I'm a TF main and I love the rune that gives you MS way too much to give it up for roughly 500 gold I'll make with the passive anyways, so eh

I'd argue that ingenious hunter is better for both of those champs. Faster CD for everfrost,zhonya's, luden's.

Ya probably want ingenious hunter on everfrost users so no, probably only Kaisa becase her getting faster to items means A LOT

It’s basically if Cull were a rune, but for champs.

AD Kai'Sa get mad value from this rune, Q and E evo is crazy value

For champions who took ravenous hunter but didn’t have too much value from it (like Diana mid, some akali/kata players) the rune actually is really good. Shit even adc that use HOB rune page benefit from this since the others (relentless & ult hunter) are no where near as useful as an extra 550g for an otherwise meaningless rune slot

@@siz9024 I personally will take constant game value over slightly better snowballing. I rather actually be able to get said kills because I can roam better or have my ult faster or survive because I have zhonya's more often than get like 170 extra gold in the laning phase or something and then get the rest when we teamfight at which point I will already get plenty of gold and the full value of the other runes just from killing their team

@@Blythe985 It’s like futures market, it’s niche but definitely has a place

@@siz9024 Yea but I feel if you just wanna edge out powerspikes then yea... Just take futures market

This just boosts Enchanter supports

@@DefyingBlade im getting ptsd now i dont want another ardent supp meta

@@loneh0wler if rather have ardent meta than mages bot or this shit we have now

@@loneh0wler Same. The ADC will now play more against poke champs cause lifesteal got nerfed. Now you need heal or shield more like Soraka, Yuumi and that shit

@@DefyingBlade that makes no sense. most meta adcs dont go lifesteal for their first item which just changes bloodline, which in late-lane up to start of midgame is -3% lifesteal but +100hp. you need to deal 3k+dmg in a fight for the lifesteal nerf to make up those 3% lifesteal. assuming the adc buys botrk or shieldbow AND bloodline (most dont though as i said), this would be 5% lifesteal. in the worst scenario you lose 5% lifesteal but +100maxhp, which means you need to deal 2k dmg to break even. though as i already said, almost no adc goes lifesteal item first/2nd AND bloodline.

its 550g and people already exchange a rune for free boots aka 300g.

@@Oearli but people don't take free boots because the rune is insane or anything, the inspiration tree is just literally the weakest and thats the rune people rank the highest in it because the competition for it is extremely lackluster. treasure hunter's competition is far better, though it sits in a tree that isn't fucking worthless on 90% of all characters in the game so it's probably more viable than boots on most champions, because you gimp yourself by going inspiration.

I don’t play league anymore so maybe state of the game changed correct me if it makes so sense : I personally see that rune mostly ad hypercarries. These picks we mostly use resolve or the blue runes as second one cause their is nothing better actually, domination second give you absolutely nothing for picks like Yone or Jinx. As MS outside fights isn’t what we search the most lifesteal is on spells, items cd isn’t needed. But gold. Gold is useful as it can help us reach power completely needed. I can continue explaining but I am bored and you get the point

My first thought was master yi, your priority is to snowball and hit your botrk/guinsoo powerspike as dast as possible, and he can gank and dive very early with the appropiate team

@@Oearli but that gibt's you 10 extra movespeed for the Rest of the game aswell. I know its not much but atleast there it is still a Rune after you get it and not completely useless.

better for jungle? dont you get these boots around 10:00 ? you need those boots right at the start if you want them for ganking.

I know my w placement is horrible and my mid game macro is horrible. Getting fed from idiot bot lanes is not hard, it’s just knowing what to do when I have all the kills

they replaced the lifesteal one with the new btw

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Yeah the gold alone would be badly designed but added with the 10% damage increase it’s actually good. Which makes it compete with other keystones.

"deleted soloq" do you hear yourself

@@hayden6700 duoq mb but cmon you got what i said

First strike gives like legit no gold that early though

@@emerrinsytchannel1214 ye but it kinda adds up with all the other gold you get, you dont get passive gold before like min 5 so all gold early matters you could be 10 gold of of item early and couldnt wait for it like you would normaly do

after all it is just a cheese strategy

@@splix8 if you wanted more gold initially you could just run triumph as the 20 gold per takedown it gives is much larger than first strike could ever produce that early

@@splix8 triumph would give you 50 times more gold than first strike would there. you're legit gonna end up with MAYBE 4 or 5 gold from first strike after you kill a couple dudes on the invade

You have to get 4 kills to get the value of magical footwear, 3 is nearly enough with 270, than you would have to roam, which only a few roles and champ can do, but if you’re going to roam, then relentless hunter is just better.

1) Requires you not going Resolve secondary in top lane (a death sentence in a lot of match ups) 2) You aren't going Ultimate Hunter which outside of sheer utility, can potentially net you more overall gold through the additional assists granted. Now, is it a guarantee the difference in CDR actually means anything? No, but there is also not really a guarantee you get tags on mid/jungle with your ults either and I'd rather be 2/5 on ultimate hunter after 1 item than treasure.

But that requires you going down domination secondary and still getting 5 unique kills. Roam supports if they go down domination, like Bard for example, gets way more value from Relentless to actually be on the map doing things. I don't see a champion like Janna or Soraka taking this rune when options like Magical Footwear yield SIMILAR gold amounts, are in an overall better tree, and have failsafes for not snowballing.

​@@amethonys2798 free boots suck ass though, it locks you out of getting boots for 12 minutes on characters that appreciate being able to buy them early, and if it takes less than 12 then that means treasure hunter would nearly give you enough gold to just purchase them instead + you're getting more than just the 300 for boots from it afterwards. Also, free boots doesnt yield similar gold amounts, treasure hunter is literally almost double the gold, 550 vs 300, its like 85% more gold or something like that. and especially if you're playing something like soraka you're basically guaranteed to get assists with using your R properly, and if you cant get assists with R in other places than bot then your team's probably getting stomped anyway and your rune choice in that case is totally irrelevant to the outcome of the game. ALSO, free boots aren't in a good tree lmfao, the inspiration tree is unarguably the weakest tree in the game, with Glacial being the only outstanding rune, first strike being alright on some champions, and all the small runes just fucking suck. Inspiration secondary is some of the worst shit you could ever do, if you're taking that tree for free boots you should just go conditioning + whatever else from resolve instead, that gives you 342 gold worth of raw stats while not locking you out of buying anything + the 5% additional armour/MR. Free boots is literally one of the single worst runes in the game man, its especially bad on champions that go inspiration primary and have a second option (like electrocute vs first strike on a lot of assassins)

No other option gives you extra value after the 5 stacks, why should this one? You get gold to basicly choose your extra stat

​@@marianvajda785 I don''t think Lord Dunst's idea was good, but on the topic of no other options giving extra value: It doesn't really matter. A rune should prioritize it's value rather than consistency across options. With that said, I do believe a change to it's reward after completion would be consistent with the other options, every other option gives some "permanent" buff, while this one stops after completion. The biggest downside to this rune, apart from there being better options, is that if a player can stack the 5 takedowns, he probably doesn't really need the money, and if he was struggling early and stacked it later in the game, then it is too little money to make a difference.

@@marianvajda785 All the other hunter runes still impact you quite after completion but not treasure, ultimate hunter will ALWAYS give you ult CD, relentless hunter will ALWAYS give you ms etc. Treasure hunter just stops after completion, it doesn’t do anything after that. It’s the only rune in the game that I can think of that just stops doing anything after completion.

@@patrickstar3293 This item will ALWAYS give you 25ap/15dmg/250 health. No other rune provides more after the 5 stacks were collected.

@@spectrobit5554 But the items you bought from the gold are the permanent buff, we have a different approach to this logic I guess but in my opinion they wanted a rune where you can choose your buff in form of items. 5 takedowns are not something extra unless you are a toplaner, it is a good snowball rune for early junglers and supports imo (imagine olaf or lee with extra 550 gold pre 20min)

The way i see it the only thing it may be good for is supports

@@assgrabberpremium I've been running Kha with first strike, the debt rune and ravenous hunter till now, exchanged the ravenous hunter for this, and you snowball HARD AF if you get like 2 kills before your first back

@@ThundraBoy666 well it could hypothetically work with anything and anyone but it all depends on conditions. In most cases it doesnt do enough imo. Although like the situation you provided i know that players are gonna find ways to use it

@@assgrabberpremium Doubt it will be good for supports, as you never go domination tree (apart of like pyke, and probably someone else)

@@cskillen1998 ah true true i forgot about that

He gifted 500 prior, when he made the announcement