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I feel like rap is art form and to say who is more creative and crafty I’d say Los but the reality of rap right now and in the times that we are in… Less is more💯 Surf bars touch a larger crowd than King los if we being honest🙌🏾 but yes king los rap better but it will never be as appreciated as tsu surf🤷🏾♂️
Tsu Surf is a master and a brilliant storyteller of the streets. He’s grounded. King Los is ascended master. Nigga can explain the experience and existence of the thing that makes the universe on a street level
@Antonio ' being intelligent isn’t nerdy or weird my brother it’s called educating yourself and being intellectually inclined every man & woman should thirst for knowledge black Jesus but us here as the smartest people on the earth don’t downplay what you are. On the other hand Los is better on track but surf is definitely the better battle rapper
The way Surf talking numbers remind me of a popular kid at a school. He cool until he get smacked by somebody who's less popular and can actually fight.
@@ellsworthconstructionllc interesting perspective he definitely needs to respect people who deserve it but I understand why he feel like he feel lol he like one of the biggest names in his state music wise he literally top5 battle rappers all time and the only one to successfully cross over into the music industry and he from jersey from the gutter / los probably grew up in the burbs he nice but they both built different
@@p.s.kplayshotkilla1931 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you buggin we was rocking with surf before he got shot tf.. and we rocked with 50 cus he dropped heat boy not cus he got shot that just added to what he had to talk about and e legend status
@@jujumack94 slight facts..... but not HEAVY SURF WAS BIG SLIPPING before he got shot and that freestyle was at A millie for a min before he got shot... he started getting sympathy views
Surf might make better music than most battle rappers...but to me he ain't even in that "rapper" "pen" category...he's more of an entertainer like Hitman.
Exactly. A lot of his verses are just geared toward street shit but nothing super witty and groundbreaking. I respect people with actual bars. Daylyt, Murda Mook, Loaded Lux, QP Sons, JC, and a select few. Surf is more of a performer and poet of his street ventures. He’s good at making angles and narratives, but not a wordsmith like that.
@@aarontheruler what does money have to do with it if none of us getting their money niggas talking about rap and you talking a bout other niggas pockets like u benefit from it weirdo
They got butt hurt when they heard los say “your menions.” Claiming they don’t know los. If y’all into freestyle and battle rap I guarantee you, you know los. And if this your first time knowing of him go listen to his music and come back. Surf not on los level. I listen to both but los freestyles are crazy.
@@Battlerap_stoner I've heard his struggle raps. Honestly surf is nice but the level of depth in his lyricism is overrated to me. Anyone who thinks he can out rap Los prob took special ed half their lives. No pun intended 🤔
@@Battlerap_stoner Didn't know they had degrees for trolls...if you knew who you was talking too I'm pretty sure you'd stf up...while u over there rubbing Drake's az yet critiquing an accomplished young minority who musically & entertainment wise has been more successful than you'll ever be!!!!
Surf ain’t no fucking real rapper. This nigga should go spit the shit he be practicing for 2 months talking bout “freestyle”. This nigga can’t freestyle for shit and surf you ain’t no fucking rapper respectfully.
@@DaUnicorn you must be trolling or you lost your mind 😂😂😂😂 seriously 😒 I’ve played los’s music (just his freestyles) and people were amazed surf eh 🤷🏽♂️ no reaction lmaooo
My bigga you know you can't expect niggas to properly admit they impressed 🤣🤣 Those 4 or 5 lines has more creativity than niggas have ever created in their entire lives 🤣 That shyt was hard
@@NoLimitDirk Analytics on the internet is a flawed system and is only a POSSIBLE indication of quality depending on the context. McDonald's probably makes more money and has more customers than most food spots.....does that speak to their quality or other things? So yeah it's cap.
Lux got features with method mad, Redman, Joey badass, t pain, Dave east,jadakiss, Kevin gates, wiz Khalifa. Just because surf said he the only battle rapper with big name features
Lmao los: “start a fire” Surf: “why should I?” Surf don’t want no smoke, it’s plan and simple, if surf a better rapper like he says he is than do what los said and start a fire, bet los cook that man
@@24Jabba he told the truth about everything that didnt matter at the time.. just because it's the true doesn't mean it makes sense to bring up as a defense to what's going on. Only bitches do that. Plus Los would smoke his Turtle neck off..he lucky los didnt mention how much he made being Diddy Ghost Writer for the MMM ALBUM.
@@24Jabba Tsu is a certified Choker. Nigga got a few decent cuts but everybody ain’t listening to him like he think. Smack put the battery in kuz only to send his toy soldier out in the field to get drained. The dumb shit is Tsu and Los ain’t even in the same league respectfully so too. You can’t put a Los in the field with a Tsu only because Tsu is built to crash out whatever the cause. Los is built to see the whole board and get a win without the risk of unnecessary losses
Dudes love tryna call other dudes females and stuff like that because they disagree. It's just a disrespectful thing to say to try to make themselves feel like more than what they are. Men get mad and emotional all the time that's why men die everyday. Los gets more respect obviously because he's a better rapper so more people are gonna be on his dick. But most ppl aren't gonna bow down to another person no matter who they are. People are gonna defend themselves. Just an argument between two men, nothing more nothing less
If yal never saw surf, yal don't know he's one hell of an entertainment but when it comes to walking the talk, recently he's been ass. I think Tsu B.A.R.R.S. knows what's up.
Surf music is cool but he too limited on content. No versatility AT ALL! He has his own way of talking about what most rappers do now... pain, struggle, street shit, bitches, money, all that common shit. Why he ain’t tryna start the fire tho? Why he dancing around that?
“All you gone ever be called is the ppls champ but you never gone be called DA BEST”!!!!! Damn that was a mic 🎤 drop on the calm. 🤬🤷🏾♂️🐐🥶 Salute #Surf/#KL 🙌🏾💯
@@secretaryofstate1And your very entitled to your opinion! That doesn’t negate the fact that there are ppl who feel otherwise. Fact of the matter is there’s no debating that he’s on another level, whose “BEST” is and always will be opinionated.
Surf is confused. Just because you got more numbers dont mean you a better rapper. Surf is obviously great at marketing himself. Which plays a big part. King los is a beast
I prefer King Los Lux and Daylyt freestyle over surf but I listen to them all on the treadmill but it's meaningful content I like but I understand people who like his
@@sciencedontliebutscientist7083 nah I like a good story like anyone else but that thesaurus dictionary rap is corny y’all can have that I’m good.FYI I’m 42 I don’t heard it all
What's crazy is that King Los' rapping ability is on a whole other level to Tsu. Tsu's written bars are not even good enough to compete with Los' freestyle let alone his pen. Tsu killed him in this debate though and made him look like a lil nigga 😂
How? Did you at all hear the end? Surf talked his usual numbers and deals as he do with battle rappers.... that’s cool but his goofy ass said he can rap circles around Los then his energy got ghost when Los said start a fire. Surf a goat talker THATS IT!
Men lie Women lie numbers don't in the words of Jay Z so I don't agree with that. Numbers make money and that's what we all want in the end besides respect
@@travismartin4863 I’m talking in terms of analyzing self esteem issues and insecurities, if y’all really gonna argue otherwise than all I can say is ok
Surf need to put that diss record out his views will go out window with this one.....check the temp. Lol.....cause idk if he seeing Los lyrically on any level.
lol they will but Los is going to burn him and his #s will jump up even more. That's like someone telling me "give mike tyson your best shot" and my dumb azz tries it =P
I was thinking the same thing. Surf is a battle rapper, they built different, but Los isn't necessarily an industry rapper. He's more fit for battle rap anyway.
You know how much time was just wasted in people's lives. No matter how long you could stand listening to these two, you will never get that time back.
Being a great lyricist doesn't mean you're the better rapper. Biggie was more lyrical than Pac but Pac was the better rapper hands down which is why people hold Pac to a higher standard than anyone.
@@Quran112083 easily. Kanye doesn’t write his own music period. Yet is considered among most to be a better rapper than Kodak Black who does write his own shit. Rhapsody is LYRICALLY the best female rapper. Her name doesn’t come up in that conversation. I️ believe los is better LYRICALLY than Surf.. BUT in a BATTLE ....SURF WILL SMOKE THAT BOY. I️ do believe his PEN is better though. Big Krit is a better rapper than Drake, no one will ever say Krit is better though. I️ can go on n on.
