TTJ: Ashlen Rose v Cassius Marsh v Devin v Blackneto | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 19 

Why does Casius use a Cedh deck against mid-high powered casual decks this ep? 🤣

Lol we all knew what we were getting ourselves into 😂 honestly though it was a cool challenge for all of our decks. None of the decks I ever play I consider good enough to be cEDH but it’s always nice to see if they can hang with the craziness! We all had fun though that’s the most important part ☺️

good to know. I always thought it was that opponents can't draw more than one card during draw step, rendering zero draws. so Narset isn't that bad afterall :/ LOL

@@williammaykel138 on your turn that is how Narset works, but you can still draw one card on your opponents turn.

Maybe a good rule of thumb from now on, is for cards in other languages to have an english card sitting nearby, maybe in a token stack that accompanies the decks, just to avoid these issues.

I had fun watching it even tho 2 if the players did nearly nothing but I still had fun watching it.

I agree, such over powered cards should not be in a casual type environment, 6 thousand dollar plus card? Naah man. Very boring game, so little interaction.

I second this, keen to seem some cEDH

Agreed, mismatches aren't as fun to watch

Agreed

i was thinking that, he's even doing all the card flicking. Feels like he looked at what the "cool kids" do and just copied mannerisms, decks, printings..

I stack swords like that too in my Voltron deck! It makes it easier for people to see what I have!

@@TabletopJocks that is what I was thinking for my Rograkh voltron deck!! You completely blew my mind!!!

As someone who played it before he upgraded it for this show, it is a beautiful terrifying beast of a deck for sure!

Shrines are annoying asf with that new Zur card from DMU set

and almost let his 1/1 golem die

And countered a spell after effects had resolved and priority had passed... not very good at playing the high power he has

@@ethanmiter3024 that made me mad for Joe.

Like realizing someone's gonna win the game and u go back 2 steps after they revealed and put the card they searched for onto the battlefield. Shoulda never been able to go back on that

Microdosing is a powerful thing

exactly hey

Surprised he didn’t scoop right there

@@skate14eras ya that was intense

Urza is busted tho, thats great threat assessment by ashlen. His bullshit would’ve started 2 turns earlier

my golem is 0/0

Appreciate the love out a sea of negativity. It’s literally what the show is about. Friends playing magic together! In the end, will we get everything right? Nope. But as long as we had fun while we were doing it then it’s fine! The emphasis is on the gathering and entertaining! Thanks for watching! 🥳

The light paws player even looked the card up and didn’t realize I’m dead 🤣💀

Honestly I think that’s just combo decks in general. Like if you’re playing Blue/Black I can almost always expect to see Thoricle combo. Even in casual decks I’m seeing it more now because it’s so easy to pull off. I barely run any combos in my decks, I’m more of a voltron/swing all my creatures type of player lol

I mean that's litterally not true. There are so many cedh combos and the ones played in urza are played in very few other decks. Isorev in some but it's typically not good enough for non mono blue / azorious. Power grim is basically used in no other decks and polymoprh for kraken exists in like 2 decks temur poly and urza. There are tons of unique combo and winning lines and most decks do not run the same except 4c/5c piles.

Not really... If you don't play blue/black, you can see many different Combos. Sure, Oracle + Consult/Pact is kinda boring and always the same. But outside of that specific line you can find many interesting ways to close out the game. These combos feel even more unfair, when nobody counters them. So just be in the same page.

To me it was pretty clear he was trying to think through what would happen and if he needed to interact but they moved along. Agree she did try to get confirmations as it went along

@@HelplessHeroes maybe for a second but both joe and Ashley mentioned that it was resolving unless he had something to stop it, to which he just kinda fumbled through his deck

That sounds lit! I might tell the homies about that one!

Cassius, Austin and myself all have no ban list decks we play with one another off camera. One day we will probably film one cause those games are spicy!!!!!

@@TabletopJocks That would be so awesome to see! Literally no restrictions commander!

@@TabletopJocks I hope there is a Braids list in there. 😈

@@TabletopJocks this is what the good people want to see! I'm sad the archenemy prevailed... Id have argued till my face was blue about that coronet but Cass never said it resolved so I'd have let it ride too. I also have a light paws deck and have had to educate my friends that you have to respond to the cast and/or etb trigger. You don't get to see what I tutor for till it is in play. No one wanted to catch them hands, they try everythimg 😂

Thank you preach, I would’ve not let that happen

He is so nice! We randomly met at Star Wars Celebration and I invited him to be on the show based on that meeting. He’s definitely the homie and will be at MTG30 in Vegas if you wanna get some games in with him!

Just smilin' 😂

What’s the other half? 🧐

@@TabletopJocks the other half was watchng players go, "uhhh, um, hmm... and then not know how their decks work." Game was a just watching 1 dude fumble through his shit while the other players were locked out. 1 game episode like this made me think players were like "you want another game" and regular commander players were like nah you do you bro and BN only keeping Cass bs around for the $ and the "fame" alignment. BN, richest dude you played with has been Post and hes also the most down to earth dude in videos Cass is a terrible guest that drinks his own hype juice.

This escalated quickly 😳

People are in their feelings today that’s for sure 🤣

one went to bottom one went to top, he drew 1 fresh card

Since he mentioned that he's playing Urza Power Scepter, I assume it's a standard list (and I saw no cards deviate from it). He could've exiled everything until he exiles a codex shredder, then, as he untaps everything with Isochron + Dramatic Reversal, he'd get infinite mill to mill out all of his opponents and then cast Windfall. (If he'd get to that point with less than 6 cards in his library, he'd have to just mill their opponent to 0 and pass turn, but there is a few way to heavily mitigates that change, by hitting tutors that can get Codex Shredder and Windfall before being down to 7 cards). However, we also know that some of the players have Eldrazi's that shuffle the Library (we know that atleast Ashlen has Ulamog in her deck, we can see it when she's shuffling from the Time Twister at 15:45), so he'd have to mill until Ulamog is her last card and she'd at least have an extra turn (with Ulamog as a draw) before losing on subsequent turns. (If he did deviate from the standard list, he could also just have a Thassa's Oracle) That being said, I'm really not sure if Cassius knew the exact line he could take, I would've definately asked him to go through it and show the win (or at least explain the line he was going to take other than "I just play everything")!

@@diphoration_ he did deviate from the list. There is a decklist in the description. There is no codex shredder and no Thassa's oracle. There is no way to get a card back from the yard other than mystic sanctuary (but land drop was already used this turn). If he exiles his whole library, he can do a copy artifact + swan song infinite swans loop but he would lose in his drawstep of the next turn

@@shooterOfAll I didn't realise the decklists were posted, then I guess I also don't see how he could've won this game lol.

The sad thing was that he had to read urza after cast to know what it did

@@kylerippenhagen1052 you do realize that he was probably reading it for the people at home watching who didnt know what Urza does because they dont play him or see him enough to remember

🔥🥵🔥🥵

Playing inside is much better

I agree, however if the games go too long or we run out of time in the day we have to make sacrifices. I’ll talk to the editors though I’m sure we could just throw the combo up at the end.

I’ve played with several. I think that’s just the playgroups I play with though. I see it as much as I see mana crypt. Also, we all had fun and we knew what we were getting into. It was a fun challenge for all our decks!

Thanks for the reply! In the end, your group having fun is most important. You are right to point that out. I also didn't take into consideration your groups off camera rule zero conversation. Thank you for the good gameplay videos. My next comments will stay more positive. :) Take care.

Appreciate the love! And yes it will be coming back soon!!!!

@@TabletopJocks Hell yeah!

We did a rule 0 and talked about deck choices beforehand. We knew what we were facing and all had fun. Don’t know what to tell ya.

Ehh hard to say. It seemed like he let the daybreak resolve until he saw all that glitters come out. Players shouldn’t do anything until a spell has resolved to avoid interactions like that.

Yeah, friendly game but still should not have announced search until Cassius confirmed not countering. But it also didn't sound like Cassius was countering until he heard the target.

I think it's actually difficult to build a good low/medium powered deck. It's easier to build a cedh deck they have a well established list of staples.

@@DuxBellorum13 Cass said "Toot that thang.." which was a sign that he let the spell resolve.

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I play with foreign cards but at least if you ask me, I can tell you everything that the card does

Which one?

also where was card draw how do u play all the things? wild ending even if it was true should have been explained

​@zacharyivey4259 great question, looking at his decklist I have no idea how he wins from there