He’s a professional athlete representing an organization, a response to a question that is ignorant doesn’t always deserve an aggressive response. If the person interviewing hasn’t met someone that is Polynesian, they may not know it’s incorrect to call someone Hawaiian just because they’re from Hawaii. The interviewer did not show disrespect or facetiousness, just simply uneducated with the topic
the clarification is important. it's not that he wants to be unassociated with hawaiians but rather that he understand they have their own ancestry separate from his own despite growing up there
@@windytv7511 Yes. But not all Polynesians are the same nor share the same culture. The same way not all asians are the same nor share the same culture.
He was not disavowing Hawaii, he was just claiming Polynesian. Because you live in a place, doesn't make you of that heritage. There is nothing wrong with showing pride in your origins. It's all love. I love his energy and explanation!
Not quite. All Hawaiians are Polynesians, but not all Polynesians are Hawaiians. Polynesians is more of a racial category, and are often called Pacific Islanders. He is actually Samoan. He was explaining that ethnically, he is not Hawaiian.
But If you're born in the USA you're glad to be called American not from some backwater in Europe. He was born in Hawaii so he's Hawaiian whether his ancestry is from somewhere else
@@ghsense2626Nope, absolutely wrong. But keep telling yourself that. We may be Hawaiʻi locals, and from Hawaiʻi, but we are NOT Hawaiian…Native Hawaiians, or Kānaka Maoli, are a group of people who were in Hawaiʻi centuries before my ancestors got here in 1868. PS - don’t even get me started on how White Americans stole Hawaiʻi from the Kānaka Maoli in 1893.
For everyone who's still confused, He says he is from hawaii because he was born and raised in Ewa Beach, His bloodline is mainly samoan and other polyneisan ancestry but he does not have hawaiian blood
So Hawaiian is not Polynesian? I thought he said all of those are Polynesian. Thus if you are Polynesian and born in Hawaii you would be Hawaiian. So what is he? Is he African American?
@@MikeKollinidk I think he’s just trying to seem more interesting and intelligent than he really is lol dude just said he considers Polynesians Hawaiian and then says he’s not Hawaiian .. so is he not Polynesian or does he think only Polynesians can be Hawaiian?
Thank you. Usa stole Hawaii for Samuel dole pineapples. I gotta say if we were all like this the heritage of every human being would be co.licated . I'm born in canada my parents Scottish. Sorry I'm canadian . Whats the issue .it's transgender of a different stripe . Who cares.
I had a giant Samoan homie in High-school explain the whole Polynesian situation when he found out i was dating a Hawaiian girl. He gave me solid info, she and i have 2 kids now and been together since 2001. Thanks Stanley where ever you are....
@@maxdragon15 he only told the shit after white people, we were teenagers in High-school, in california, almost 25 years ago. WTF human sacrifice, he wasn't giving a lecture on pre-colonial Polynesia.
A huge somoan? Or just a somoan. A huge somoan would probably be like 6'6 minimum. They are just huge people in general. The smallest somoan I know is 6ft and still around 230.
It is quite segregated here in Hawai'i. But generally,..... Hawaiian = People who are either 100% Hawaiian or part-Hawaiian. Locals = People who are born & raised in Hawai'i, but not Hawaiian at all. It may also include people (non-Hawaiian) that have moved to Hawai'i from elsewhere and have lived here for decades. Residents = People who have moved to Hawai'i from elsewhere, but have not qualified to be a "local" just yet. Visitors = People that come to and stay in Hawai'i for just a while (Ex: tourists, military personnel, federal government employees and their family members).
So what is someone who is from Hawaii called that isn’t Polynesian? To clarify the question someone from Texas is called a Texan and I’m wondering what the equivalent is for Hawaii.
@@mamute9199 they're all Americans but I think the confusion is because if someone is from New York, we call them New Yorkers. Or if they're from California we call them Californians. However Hawaii was it's own thing for probably 1000yrs or so before America colonized them. So they're Americans but Hawaiian is actually a culture and race of peoples, unlike "New Yorker" which is just where you're from.
@ToddRobinson13Hawaiian is an ETHNICITY. You're just as confused as the reporter. Tua is ethnically Samoan- not Hawaiian. Also, Hawaiians are not Americans. Coerced annexation. Build your understanding, outsider.
@@nochaoticgoodok sure these two realities exist at once but let’s be practical. it has 2 meanings. sorry but if you designate it only that one meaning, then you’re catering to an ingroup
@ToddRobinson13When I hear that someone is Hawaiian, I picture Hawaiian ethnicity, like Israel Kamakawiwo’Ole. It’s even a language. It’s different than any other state.
Tua demonstrates the humility and grace Polynesians are famed for, and why they are so frequently overlooked. Mad respect that Tua included the Cook Islands, too!
Tua is of Samoan decent, born and raised in Hawaii. He is not Hawaiian. Samoa and Hawaii are just two of the many islands that make up Polynesia (which Tua mentions him being Polynesian). Polynesian is the group name for Samoans (players like Tua, Mariota, Juju, Puka Nacua, Troy Polamalu, Junior Seau), Tongans (players like Vita Vea, Talanoa Hufanga, Tuli Tuipulotu, Haloti Ngata), Hawaiians (players like Kevin Mawae, Vince Manuwai), etc. just like how Asian is the group name for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino etc. Polynesia is one of three regions in the South Pacific and consists of many islands such as Samoa 🇦🇸🇼🇸, Tonga 🇹🇴, Hawaii , Tahiti 🇵🇫, New Zealand 🇳🇿 etc. However, Fiji 🇫🇯 falls under Melanesia (another of the three regions, the third being Micronesia). But still, all three regions are similar to each other in cultural customs, beliefs and backgrounds and their dialects sound pretty similar. I hope this helped any of those who didn't quite understand what Tua was trying to explain. 🤙🏼🌺
@@MisterMister5893the clip doesn’t have the full response. Hawaiian is an ethnic group, Native Hawaiians, who are a Polynesian people that are indigenous specifically to Hawaiʻi. Samoans are a different ethnic group indigenous to Samoa. Both are Polynesian, but are different cultures. Like how Irish and Scottish people are related cultures, but are not the same. If you moved to Samoa would that make you a Samoan? Same concept with Hawaiian.
You should learn how English works. If you are from Hawaii then you are Hawaiian in the same way if you are from Texas than you are a Texan. The difference is that Hawaiian is also an ethnicity. We are not saying that you are ethnically Hawaiian, by calling you Hawaiian, we are saying you are from Hawaii, which is objectively accurate. If I asked you "are you Hawaiian?" And you said "no" then id ask "oh, I thought you were from Hawaii" would you be confused and say "what? I am from Hawaii, why wouldn't I be?" Because you don't know the difference between ethnicity and being identified by the state you're from?
@@Garso I feel like there’s a difference. There’s no such thing as being ethnically “Texan” unless talking about the indigenous population there, but they definitely have their own name for their group. However, Hawaiian IS an ethnicity, and since that group is actually indigenous to the island and has been there for long before it became a state, out of respect for their culture they should be referred to as Hawaiian. I’ve never met a person who’s from Hawaii but not indigenous who says they’re Hawaiian - they always say “from Hawaii.”
@@TymieHe was asked about being Hawaiian but then started talking about what Polynesian is. He didn’t explain how being from Hawaii doesn’t make you Hawaiian at all. I’m from Arizona. I’m an Arizonan.
@@Tymie Well I had to look in the comments to get clarification that he's of Samoan descent. Idk if you think him saying he's Polynesian means anything because most Polynesians I know of specific where they are from i.e., Tonga, Samoa, Cook Islands, Niue etc., Like, from this clip it might as well be some white dude saying he's not French, he's from France, and he's European. It doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot and is confusing without context.
@@brutuskhan1654 I'm from California, so I can see a whole different reason for denial than his, which I think people wouldn't question if he was of Japanese descent because everyone would know that and he wouldn't feel the need to clarify. He was actually being respectful of people of Hawaiian descent here, in my opinion.
Proud to hear Fiji mentioned by an NFL athlete. Just a note; Fijians are Melanesians. Although to be fair, we have a great Polynesian influence in some islands in Fiji like the Lau group. It was conquered by Ma’afu from Tonga.
Brah Don’t get it twisted Polynesian, Melanesian, Micronesian are European labels and are a part of colonisation From Taiwan to the Polynesian triangle we all one family - unity in our diversity … We aren’t divided by European labels and/or Eurocentric notions of race - that’s racism Only one race on this planet - The human race - enjoying multiple expressions of our humanity through cultural diversity We are connected by the moana / ocean as a peoples - NOT separated One love respect my whānau Arohanui Bula Vinaka
Nah that's incorrect. War was a major facet of the Pacific Ocean cultures pre-european influence. Don't try and romanticise some brotherhood, because that is overwhelmingly not the case.
Fiji is an interesting one. Technically that’s Melanesia, but shout out to Tua for recognizing the Cook Islands. Also good for him setting the record straight. As a Samoan there is no way he could let that comment slide
But Fiji was part of the Tu'i Tonga Empire in the 10th century so culturally they are very Polynesian, even though they are located in what people geographically call Melanesia. Drawing lines on maps doesn't always define a people and place.
My ex-roommate is Tua's cousin. Learned a lot about Samoan culture living and talking with him. He had a rougher upbringing than Tua, but I'm so proud of how far he's made it. He's in bootcamp as we speak. Much love Costa Chan Edit: Glad to see this get over 500 likes. I miss my buddy Costa and will have to tell him about this thread next time I write him (he's still in bootcamp). He sure will get a kick out of it. If you are one of those people who doesn't believe me I could care less your comments aren't a bother. I think it's funny how everyone claims anyone from Hawaii is Tua's cousin. It reminds me of how where I'm from in Georgia in the hood everyone claims to be cousins with anyone who makes it. I'm sure it's a thing that happens for sure. Thanks for showing love everyone
@@AaronRodgersDMT so you are saying the guy I lived with for almost a year was just lying? it's his first cousin man😂his dad's sister is tua mom. Samoan families are big man so I wouldn't necessarily say that the two people you met were lying either. Really bothered by your comment tbh
@@jonesjobe6202no he’s right. Tua was also my first cousin too actually. We have a really big family. My dad (his mom’s brother) has 14 other brothers and sisters.
It's amazing the different cultures that don't take academics seriously but take sports seriously then wonder why most of the owners of the said teams are white. Sports are a distraction and not a good one.
To be fair, nationality is a fairly well-defined status, whereas ethnicity is a fuzzy concept, especially when using geographic names. To be an ethnic "Hawaiin", you don't have to be born in Hawaii, or ever a citizen there, but you do have some vague percentage of ancestors that lived there during some vague boundaries of time in the past. Or, you may have no ancestors that ever lived in Hawaii, but you have common ancestors with people who lived in Hawaii during the vague historical boundaries of what constitutes a "Hawaiin", then you might be considered ethnic Hawaiin. You can have much shorter history of ancestry in Hawaii and be considered Hawain than somebody who has a longer ancestry there, but not Polynesian ancestors. The problems come from using geographic regions to define ethnicity rather than a unique name independent of the region. Similar problem with using religions as ethnic names too. Another problem is doing this evokes ingroup/outgroup psychology and creates divisiveness and exclusion, not unity and inclusion. My recommendation, if we are to refer to ethnicities or races, is to keep them very separate from place names or religious names. That eliminates confusion and disputes related to names and creates greater clarity.
I’m telling you, the distinction between ethnicity and nationality is so important. It helps you navigate more clearly the nuance in a lot of tough social conversations today.
Nothing better than an educated man about his heritage. This happens when teachers are doing the job and politicians allow teachers to do their jobs. Thank you to all the teachers.
Im from Peru I live here but I have European heritage. 99% of Literal Andean indigenous native people would have ZERO problem with me saying Im from Peru and Im Peruvian 🇵🇪... Only in these modern days with the victim mentality and the recreation outrage would someone think what this man is saying is logical or rational. Just like with the pronoun nonsense... You cant dictate or play semantics with your legal nationality. You were born in a place, period 😂 get over it... Its like calling Al Pacino italian american... NO He's born in America, he's american. Really when it comes down to it, its group mentality and basically racism... Meaning, what is then a "real" hawaaian"? Thats what these mind games lead to, then stirring up racial tensions... If your born in Hawaii or made citizen you Hawaaian!!! Just like in you know EVERYWHERE else on the planet. If you wanna get into your ancestors or w.e thats another topic.
I like and respect this dude so much! He didn’t get offended and act like a karen, which gave the reporter the chance to ask what the difference is, and he just respectfully and calmly realized the guy just didn’t know and it was an opportunity to clarify and teach people about himself and his people!
@@marcaqui3750not a great comment from the OP either. "This is how a minority should be! I hate when they get all sensitive like a bunch of karens" is quite a karen-type thing to be saying
@@NickMulletHe’s not Hawaiian ethnically. Hawaii is a very isolated place and there still 100% Hawaiian people. There’s a Hawaii language. He grew up in Hawaii. I think he’s Samoan.
Funny cuz he says he’s Polynesian and then includes Hawaiians as a subset of the “Polynesian triangle” as he put it 😂😂😂 pretty silly to clarify something that wasn’t even necessary lol
Respect to the reporter for genuinely asking the difference and wanting to be educated on it, and respect to Tua for willingly education the reporter on his culture 🤙🏽
@@TLJ88 he "assumed" the obvious? And that's literally what a journalist does. They ask. You're not smart enough to be this entitled you little snow flake
@@gregallen5757 in case it’s not clear, imagine the following: A man from Texas says: I’m not a Texan, I’m an American. Texans, Oregonians, Californians, New Yorkers and pretty much anyone within the United States is considered American.
@@eduardosantana8300 He means “native” Hawaiians. Those who migrated there from other parts of Polynesia and have Polynesian ancestry. He’s indicating that he was born and lives in Hawaii but is not “Hawaiian”. He has Samoan ancestry.
I think Tua is being very correct, in the general sense. These amazing people have been largely eradicated from our histories, in many cultures. The prominence of these countries people, in recent decades, has been a hugely welcome achievement. It's long overdue, and kudos to Tua. 😊
If you’re born and raised in Hawaii, you understand that only ppl who have Hawaiian blood are referred to as “Hawaiian”. Just because I was born and raised in Hawaii doesn’t make me “Hawaiian” I’m Japanese American raised in Hawaii.🤷🏻♀️
No you’re actually Hawaiian. It’s incredible racist that they think like that lol guess all of the natives in American need to find out where their ancestors came from and go back lol guess all of the Hawaiians who migrated there need to move back to where their ancestors crawled out of
Many people on the mainland believe that we're Hawaiian just because we were born in Hawaii. They would say, born in California, you're Californian, Texas = Texan, etc. They don't understand that Hawaiian is an ethnicity.
For other states, when people say they’re a Californian, Ohioan, Texan, etc it means they’re from that state. So if you’re from Hawaii you say you are “A” Hawaiian, not “I’m” Hawaiian. But I honestly think the guy thought he was Hawaiian.
Technically it does though. You were born native to Hawaii. That's what you knew. That's like saying you're not a Tennessean if were born and raised here but ancestral lines came from somewhere else. That's absurd. We get the point... But it's still absurd to differentiate between indigenous and non indigenous native-born citizens. No wonder nobody can get past racism: we're too busy being racist against native born humans who claim the land they were born into instead of the land their ancestors came from.
I'm from Micronesia and got sick and tired of being called Hawaiian! Like bro there's thousands of islands out there! Thanks Tua for bringing some light out there to the general public!
@@robot-hive2022 it’s called geography. Plus there is nothing wrong with learning about our own states (Hawaii) or territories (US Samoa). You are an excellent example of my comment. Thank you!!
I hope that you’re saying that because he is wrong. Hawaii is a place. He was born there and therefore is Hawaiian. Doesn’t matter his ethnicity. Hawaii is not a race
Love the “he answered so respectfully” comments. He replied with respect because he was asked with respect. The reporter politely asked him to explain the difference with the intention of LEARNING and UNDERSTANDING, not out of a place of ignorance or irreverence.
He embarrassed himself on socials. Instead of taking the time to educate himself, he doubled down and embarrassed himself again at a presser. Bad journalism. And yes, total ignorance and irreverence.
Word. Who wouldn't rather hear it from the one who knows? If I meet an Asian I almost always ask what their actual heritage is; because "Asian" can mean dozens of different things. My wife was Filipina; many of her friends were Korean. They're all Asian so you can't just assume they're simply Japanese or Chinese or Korean or Filipino and leave it at that. I had people confuse my wife for Chinese, I had people insist she was a Pacific Islander just because the Philippines is a bunch of islands and it's in the Pacific. Not that simple. She was Asian. The only time she'd get annoyed by the question was if the assumption was made beforehand that she was Chinese. Other than that neither one of us hesitated to answer their question; we wanted them to know and we wanted them to know the difference.
@@briane173To your point about your wife being annoyed about assumptions, this reporter assumed Tua was Hawaiian. He assumed first, asked questions later. That was his mistake. And he doesn’t seem the least bit apologetic about it.
@@marcaqui3750Polynesians are all pretty much the same. Same people who rowed to different Islands over the years. Tia was born in the US which makes him American by nationality but Polynesian ethnically/by descent. Nothing wrong with asking. Harder thing to determine is how to pronounce his full name.
A thoughtful/respectful person would understand that, in America, being born and raised in a given state makes a person a member of that state. His comment is as ignorant/academic as somebody telling a boy from New Mexico that he’s not a New Mexican.
Bro, Tua is educating about Hawaii’s diversity. However, he grew up in Hawaii and around that culture so it’s fair to say he’s Hawaiian lol. He might not be the stereotypical Hawaiian but that doesn’t mean he isn’t one…
Ethnicities matter to people who have been colonized, experienced genocide, and endured forced assimilation. Even if it seems less overt now, these nation’s histories deserve honor, respect, and acknowledgment.
He is correct and kudos for pointing out the difference. A Hawaiian is indigenous to the island chain that is now the state of Hawaii. People that live there are very aware that only certain people are called Hawaiians. Residents of the state of Hawaii aren't necessarily Hawaiian.
You're absolutely 100% wrong! If what say is true. The we are all Africans. Since that is where life began. People are so stupid thinking that they are not what where they were born in. I'm not german, fench, polish, American Indian American. I am a American from Michigan so a michigander
@@LkerkauYou seem to be lacking the critical thinking capability that Hawaiian is an ethnic group and not simply a state of the united states. Hawaiian isnt the same as calling someone a "Floridian" because they are from Florida. Hawaii existed well before the united states, and had its own indigenous group native to the island well before we took it. That indigenous group are called Hawaiians. If you dont understand that ethnic groups and countries are two separate (but related) things, thats something you should probably go learn about.
@@nelson350boost5 well, with a quick google search, it seems the actual term is Kama'aina, which is the name given to non Hawaiians that are born on the island of Hawaii and the literal meaning is "child of the land", but doesnt imply you have a Hawaiian bloodline.
It's funny that this just came up, actually, since I (Hawaiian, not from Hawaii) just learned earlier today that if you're born in the Hawaiian Islands, you're called Kama'aina (or child of the land), while if you're of Native Hawaiian / indigenous descent, you're called Kanaka Maoli. I knew they were separate but didn't actually know the specific linguistic terms in Hawaiian, which was cool. It's not a distinction that the media talks about much, so it's nice to hear Tua shed some light on it. P.S. For the record, I don't think it's technically wrong to say that Tua is Hawaiian in an informal sense; I've referred to him with that among my family, usually with a follow-up like the one he uses here (i.e. from Hawaii); it's just important imo to recognize that there are multiple distinct uses of the word (e.g. "from Hawaii" vs. "of Hawaiian descent"). Also, I know you could argue that nobody technically is a native of Hawaii given migration patterns, etc, etc; but that seems rather beside the point; such an incredibly strict definition renders the term arguably meaningless, and arguing over those kinds of things leads nowhere. Someone not being of native Hawaiian descent does not make them less, and someone being of that descent does not make them more; and in my experience I don't think I've met people who think otherwise. Those people certainly exist, but I've never gotten the sense that they're anything more than fringe. I'm not looking to get into political mud-fighting, so I think that's where I'll leave it.
I got sent to Oahu for 3 months while in the Marines, and they actually issue you a Kama'aina Card to show you're not just a haole tourist and you often get discounts at places
@@rubens4210 nah, that was '03... I'm old 🤣 The thing about locals hating us is that it's usually the younger generations, while the older ones realize the island lives off tourism and needs tourists.
There’s some wonderful linguistic and cultural diversity across the Polynesian cultures. I played rugby with many Tongans, Samoans, Fijians, etc. Inspiring athletes, hard hitters, fast on their feet, loyal to the end, and their singing voices sounded like heaven.
Great answer My mom's a Kiwi with a touch of Mauri in the family. I consider my self a New Mexican Polly. Island culture and history needs to be shared much more here in the states. I love America but I miss NZ so much
Nothing to learn. He's Hawaiian. He was born in Hawaii. Thus he is hawaiian. Be like saying all black people aren't American because they're roots go back to Africa. It's not how that works and he's borderline autistic for even suggesting it. He is polynesian by blood and hawaiian by birth and residency. You can be both.
That is respect for other cultures and truths. When you are not trying to colonize the land. It's not that hard, and should be a natural and common thing.
That land was traded by King Kamehameha to guys like Dole for arms and training so he could conquer the other tribes and islands in Hawaii and become the high king.
@@Mike-vn3lt I can’t delete your comment. But, I understand why you would want me to since what you posted doesn’t survive first contact with “actual” history.
@@SuperRobertoClementeignorance isn't a problem unless you are unwilling to learn. This guy respectfully asked for more information. Not sure what more you could ask for in 2024
@@SuperRobertoClementenot really. Especially as a journalist in the current climate, it’s super important that you let people say things themselves and don’t put words in their mouths. Yes the reporter could have done a ton of research and made a confident assertion about his background, but why not just ask? To me it shows humility on the reporter and understanding from Tua that stuff like this is murky and confusing.
He’s saying that ….. since people need to have proof on things . You can look up what he’s saying and you’ll see what he’s saying (I don’t know since I haven’t looked myself ) could be factual
I mean both are correct. You can be Hawaiiannin the sense of being from hawaii, and also be a polynesian. Hawaii is not a race of people the race that lives there isn’t exclusive to hawaii. Like american isnt a race but you’re still american
@@jkf1052 Fiji is not in the triangle. The point of each triangle is Hawaii to the North, New Zealand to the Southwest and Easter Island to the Southeast. Fiji falls outside of that- it is in Melanesia.
Bruh...I read this while waiting in line at McDonald's and just passed over it... I promise as I ordered, waited and drive up to the window as they were handing me my bag ...I hit me and I started dying of laughter 😂😂😂😂
Another way to explain it is who we'd call a (native) Hawaiian is someone of Hawaiian bloodline ancestry. Someone born and raised in Hawaii but not of Hawaiian ancestry is considered local or Kama'aina.
Nothing to learn. He's Hawaiian. He was born in Hawaii. Thus he is hawaiian. Be like saying all black people aren't American because they're roots go back to Africa. It's not how that works and he's borderline autistic for even suggesting it. He is polynesian by blood and hawaiian by birth and residency. You can be both.
Hawaiian is a race and refers to the specific Polynesian ancestry of those who are native to Hawaii. It’s not a loose term for just anyone born or living in Hawaii.
I still think it sounds messed up. If you are from Hawaii, clearly it makes sense to call that Hawaiian even if you need to elaborate for specific groups. It's about as bad as "African Americans" who never set foot in Africa, while immigrants from Africa supposedly do not qualify. The language is no longer accurate.
@@gThomasHagg dude idk wtf just happened to my previous comment i see what you’re saying, but a closer parallel would be more like the difference in being ‘American’ and being a ‘Native American’ There’s still a rich and active culture there. Away Honolulu and all the tourism hot spots. But western Oahu, parts of the big island, scattered about the other islands there’s communities of natives. Lacking better terms, there’s some areas that are sort of become defacto ‘reservations.’ Theres still an island that is only natives too, Niihau(?) Im white. But lived there for work for about 5 years. I think the difference is expressed better with people on the island, cause you’ll hear people say “I’m Hawaiian” or “I’m from Hawaii.” If you get past the touristcentric areas, there’s a lot of cool shit. There’s a sort of similar thing with some okinawans and being “Japanese”
@@ZOIMIBiIE I'm sure there are plenty subcultures of the main culture, of general law and order etc, that are worth considering. Even for "native American" though, it doesn't hold up. People identify as non-native because they don't have hundreds of years of heritage aka racial lineage. That's kind of messed up if you ask me.
@@gThomasHagg African Americans are Americans with African lineage of the indigenous people there. Just the way Italian Americans identify themselves, or Irish Americans. Caucasians in Africa are there because Of their colonizing ancestors
@@gThomasHagg It only makes sense to people not from Hawaii. No one from Hawaii calls themselves Hawaiian if they are not ethnically Hawaiian. Thats what Tua is getting at here 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
So let me get this straight...I live in Ireland and we have had a sudden and very large influx of black africans in Ireland. If I even dare say that these people are not Irish I will be told I am a racist and that they are every bit as Irish as myself who is genetically 100% Irish and all my family is from here. Why am I not allowed to claim my ancesteral land as my own but brown people are?
@@MD-uu5ntthose people are clearly not Irish and thats not the term of "racism". Are prejudice towards those Africans or do yiu just say "you're not irish"
He should have said he's Polynesian and Hawaiian. If he's from Hawaii then he's Hawaiian. If he's from Tonga then he's technically Polynesian and Tongan for example. If he was born in Hawaii and raised in Hawaii then he's Hawaiian and Polynesian. What are you people missing???
The tip of the Polynesian triangle starts at Hawaii, goes down to the bottom left to New Zealand (The Polynesian name for the Islands is Aotearoa, and the peoples are the Māori) goes across to the right to Easter Island (It’s Polynesian name being Rapanui) and includes the islands of Tahiti, Cook Islands, Samoa etc. Fiji is part of Melanesian. New Zealand also has an Island called Maui
@@BenPetersonsRIGHT?? How dare a *SPORTS JOURNALIST* not know the nuances of Hawaiian ethnicities? And even worse, how DARE he ask to be educated on the matter by a person that was born there?? He should remain ignorant instead of trying to learn!
@@leolazari4238no he should of apologized, moved on, and then figured it out on his own. Bro said it like he deserved an answer too. Like he was offended for being ignorant… don’t defend him
@@lealacey2895 Why are you so triggered? Ethnically, a Nigerian person with black skin would be Nigerian. And they can get citizenship in France, making them French by nationality. It isn’t racist to acknowledge that one can be ethnically Nigerian, and also be a French national. It’s not racist at all to speak truth. Your issue is with that group in Europe. Not Hawaiians.
This guy actually asked another man to explain that not everyone in Hawaii is Hawaiian. That should highlight the ignorance of some. We literally have a computer in our hands and this guy had to ask and get schooled.
Yes, he is absolutely, 100% correct. Being born in Hawaii does not automatically make one "Hawaiian." You may be considered "local," someone born in the state, but always referred to as just that: Local. One must have some Hawaiian "blood," direct descent from native Hawaiian ancestors, to be considered "Hawaiian." Thanks for expressing this fact. Mahalos! 🤙🌺
That's seems a bit backward. If I had Egyptian parents but I was born and raised in Norway, I would think it pretty racist for people to not call me Norwegian on that basis. Actually thats what the far right in Europe do all the time and its shitty.
@@MichaelH1232 How is that racist? You are ethnically Egyptian, but you are Norwegian by citizenship. Why would you be okay with inaccurate labels? This is not backwards at all. It further invalidates indigenous groups by erasing them and their identity. If everyone who is born in Hawaii is Hawaiian, then what do we call Native Hawaiians on the federal level? Be actually fr rn. It’s not a hard concept to understand.
@@sasquatch8268 You do understand that what you said IS a racist argument right ? Have you looked at Britain's stabbings that caused riots ? The suspect name is Axel Muganwa Rudakubana. He is born in England but his parents aren't. So does that not make him british ? Since he's not british, he's a foreigner, and it's an immigration problem. What you say is ground for the riots. You are what your papers say you are. If your family never left Congo but you're born and raised in France, you are french. Ancestry shouldn't be denied or forgetten, but it's just that : ancestry. It's not insulting to anyone to say you're from somewhere. It's just places in the world, who cares ?
Obviosly missing some context here but it seemed like the reporter was teeing Tua up specifically to correct the misconception. What an oddly satisfying human interaction
So, if an hawaiian is born and raised in England, we say he is from England but he is not English, he is Hawaiian??? If a african (black) is born in France, we can say he is from france but he is not French, he is African? What a racist concept, put race above nationality.
My wife is Samoan and she had to explain this to me as well, I'm American born and raised and acknowledge that we can be pretty ignorant to the rest of the world sometimes.
Like if a woman with european decent was born in Africa that doesn’t make her African, that makes her from Africa but say when her mom was pregnant with her, her mom moved from Nova Scotia to Kenya right, and birthed her in Kenya, she is not Kenyan by blood, she was just born there. It makes sense to me, he explained that with such respect and grace for the reporter who was very snide in fact.
@@SadelovesJesus your American by nationality & citizenship then. Your not racially a "Native American"...A person of European decent born in Africa can't claim that theyre black obviously, she can claim African tho..Same for a Black person born & raised in England for example they can say they're English by culture but they can't claim they're true English White. This all goes without saying.
@@dn8443How far back do we go then? If you wanna go with what you’re saying then TECHNICALLY every one of us is African…. Nothing else. Where does it stop? 100 years? 300 years? 1000 years? 10,000 years? If we go with what you’re saying then there are no “British” or “Italians” or “Syrians” or “Chinese” or “Russians”. Etc….
Highest represented country per capita in the NFL. An island of 90k people produces 3% of the players in the NFL. That is a mind blowing statistic considering there are well over 300 million Americans.
a) it's sports reporting, not exactly news 2) he was going somewhere with the hawaiian thing before tua chimed in *) he got distracted by it and wanted to know more not that deep
Tau could have just said I consider my self Polynesian. We would have understood. But the way he said it came out wrong. Entirely wrong.. Maybe wherever he is from in that language it might sound better but in English it sounded like you were saying I’m from America.. but I’m not american.. maybe that’s what he was trying to say?? 😂 why not just say that? Instead of looking like he paid his way through fucking school??
@@brandonsmith2299 he did say that but the confused fella asked him to explain the simple concept lol. Tua looking Hawaiian is what confused the confused fella. If tua was white, the confused fella wouldn't be confused. He saw a man from Hawaii, that looks Hawaiian, so he couldn't fathom how he isn't Hawaiian. So he needed the whole simple concept of being from a place that doesn't match your lineage reexplained to him..
Schooled? All he did was classify himself with a more generic category. He said himself that Hawaiian is a subclassification of Polynesian. So he's just proving himself to be "not that smart"
@@tbtitans21 lmaooo, his family is not originally from Hawaii, his "subclassification" is different then...woosh. Dont play with knives, it can get you hurt.
100% certain he was calling him Hawaiian like I'm an Oregonian. Not as a race lol even tho he's Samoan and black, he's still Hawaiian as he was born in hawaii
hobestly it is....i was in advanced courses...i swear i didnt know anything about Hawaii having a queen until i went over there. I even went and looked at old textbooks..nothing.
I promise you that Americans aren't the only people not familiar with this. And why would they know it if all we learn about is white people. How is the breakdown of Polynesians helping someone survive in Miami, FL or St. Louis. A *journalist* interviewing him should definitely know this information.
@DC45193 yeah, the whole history of how the U.S. government obtained Hawaii isn't something that they would want to be well known. I graduated in Hawaii and they make it mandatory to take Hawaiian Studies/History.
I feel like this is sort of like a Korean person born in Japan. A ton of people are going to assume they're Japanese and that's not necessarily racist if it's commonly known that they're "from Japan." Nice that they were both chill about it.
@@marcaqui3750 just wondering if you get worked up and outraged every time an American interviewer mistakes a north English accent for an Irish accent, or an Australian accent for an English accent? Because it's really not a big deal.
Once a professor of mine was asked "Doesn't bother you when people come late to your lessons?" He answered "Idc if you are on time or not, if you didn't your homework you can stay home straight away"...
