+Shay Oguntunde If you got that number from seeing the date in a VHS that's not actually right. I know they have some footage of ohbliv and tuamie record shopping together just a few years ago and the timecode is like 93 but that's them just editing the date on the camera. I would guess they've been making beats for maybe a little over 6 or 7 years but tuamie isn't that old he would been only like 5 years old im guessing if he started then.