Dear Laurent, Im electronic engineer, so Ill help you to better understand some informations Asus write about the components. About lifetime: its not about chokes, but about electrolytic capacitors. Biggest problem of all electrolytics is lifetime bedause in depend of technology and especially manufactoring technology the electrolytic fluid inside the devices dry out (and smells hororrble too!!!). Normal lifetime of cheap "generic" parts is even about 2000 working hours in depend of ambient temperatures, continious voltege etc. More expensive parts have greater lifetime as well- its because more complex fabrication process. In Automotive and Military standards you will quickly find the information about the data of qualified capacitors as well, so, its a piece of marketing from Asus, for sure, but the parts are really more stable compared to just "generic" parts usen in cheap and mid-range Boards as well. About Chokes: its no any lifetime here, but higher peak-current possible here to better handle the peak-loads and keep the even capacitors easy to work- its nice. About surge protection on all connectors: everyone MUST have it, even chiepiest ones. In this board Asus marketing talks about "extremlx nice designed protection"- yeah, well, its nice, thx for it, but its more marketing. Its really better designed as "generic" protection, ok, but all users and customers from Asus just wait exactly "better designed products", so, never mind, marketing guys..;-) Hope my small info helps. Best regards from Germany, Sebastian
Absolutely does. .. thanks for taking the time to go in such details. Talking of 10,000 / 5000 hour life span i absolutely meant capacitors and not chokes.. so sorry if i did otherwise. Yes, i no capcitors are usually graded for 2000 hours life span... but going from 10000 hour to 5000 makes little sense when Asus advertises an absolutely invincble motherboard. But.. again i absolutely appreciate the input... its really nice to have someone as knowledgeable as you to correct me / contribute to the channel. Please go ahead anytime u feel like it. Im pinning this comment for future reference.
@@Laurentschoice Well, feel free to contact me and Ill help you to go deeply in hardware and explain whats going on- no any problems!! By the way, Im electronic ingeneer at Alphacool and my daily job the electronic development...;-) Cheers, Sebastian
i dont own this board but its one of the only budget z390 boards that does have multiple 3.1 plugs for front panel highly needed as i rarely use the back ones unless its for special things. my concern is around using a 9700k with this board and the vrm's i will not be over clocking and i will be using a haf xb evo case with all the fans i can possibly fit into it. except for the 200mm top fan but will be using a d15 cpu cooler in dual fan mode. so lots of air flow inside. also not that its a big deal but i thought it had rgb headers not sure the difference between addressable or not etc. someone please fill me in on this as online it says "A well-tuned system deserves a matching aesthetic. ASUS Aura offers full RGB lighting control with a variety of functional presets for the built-in RGB LEDs as well as strips connected to the onboard RGB headers. And it can all be synced with an ever-growing portfolio of Aura-capable hardware.". as for usb type c i dont use. same with gen type 2 etc dont use. i dont use sli, i use wifi for when i bring the pc to my buddys house and he only has one ethernet cable for his own pc so i need wifi i hate adding extra pci adapters etc. i use bluetooth audio devices as well as bluetooth gaming controllers such as xbox controller for racing. im ok with one m.2 slots just will be using it for os system
Addressable RGB let u control every LED on a RGB strip individually. A normal or classic RGB connector only customize the entire strip and all the LED on that strip receive the same color or effect. Nice comment btw :)
Thank you for breaking it down and including the diagrams. I always wondered about phases, but You're the only channel I've seen where its visualized. Makes it easier to understand and what I should look out for when I buy. Unfortunately, I already bought the 370 version of this motherboard but will know what to look at for next time.
I have a top tier Asus 4K 32" monitor and Laurent's shirt looked fantastic, no aberations or compression artifacts at all, just so you know. Maybe the lesser monitors have this struggle but my monitor with a GTX1060 6GB seemed to handle it admirably. Also 32GB RAM and Intel i7-3770K CPU
Yeah $170 I was iffy on that too but if you guys have a microcenter near you they’re taking $30 off this motherboard (along with a lot of others). It was actually priced at $164.99 (before tax) but I ended up getting it for $134.99 so I do think that was a good bang for your buck I know very very little about computers as this is my first build but it seemed like a good pickup from what I read and how much it ended up being on sale for I did read mixed reviews about the WiFi so I’m kinda worried about that. If anyone has used this MoBo, how is the WiFi for you guys? Oh and P.S. Bluetooth can work with airpods ;)
The issue is that the one you got only supports turbo boosjt intel technology 2.0... while the TUF board supports 3.0.... I cannot find other z390's that support turbo boost 3.0 it's frustrating!
HELP please! im planning to but this motherboard with a i7 9700F, 2 night hawk 32gb memories and video the asus 1660 super. This will be okay for architecture? I read some bad reviews about doing the bios of this motherboard. I m not sure and dont want to spent money to have issues. Thank you
Hi Laurent.. Thnx for the review. So what is your suggestion in terms of motherboaed at this price level as tuf boards did ? Since I am building new pc, this was my favorite motherboard (firstly will be used with i5 9600k than planning to upgrade with i9-9900k), after your review I have some doubts.. You mentioned MSI z390 ACE in comments below however its 100 box higher than the TUF. We all know to go for expensive one but the goal is here finding the efficient one in terms of price/performance reality.. So I really would like to hear your idea at this price point if you may, does pro gaming model work properly with i9 9k series rather than the plus gaming ? thnx in advance..
If u want to upgrade towards a 9900k... ull need to spend the exta doe to ensure performance. Id go for a strix on msi Tomahawk at similar price ranges. Itll get u were u need to be.
@@Laurentschoice I was going to buy it (currently for $ 147), but mainly because of the appearance, namely the yellow elements (yes, yes - I am a freak;), but the aesthetics are also very important to me). I have a TT Core P5 computer casing, so in order not to cover these yellow elements too much (including the motherboard model designation) I wanted to connect the graphics card to the second PCI-E x16 slot. Unfortunately, the ASUS specification states: 1 x PCIe_1 3.0 / 2.0 x16 (x16 or x8 + x4 + x4) 1 x PCIe_2 3.0 / 2.0 x16 (max at x4 mode) So I can put such ASUS RTX 2060 ROG STRIX into PCIe_2, but it will work slower than in PCIe_1, even though it is the only card in the configuration? Perhaps, however, it will work just as quickly when it will be the only one? In the TUF Z390-PRO GAMING model, they already describe slots like this: 2 x PCIe 3.0 / 2.0 x16 (x16, x8 / x8, x8 / x4 + x4 *, x8 + x4 + x4 / x0 **) 1 x PCIe 3.0 / 2.0 x16 (max at x2 mode) ... but this motherboard is visually less interesting for me ... and more expensive ($ 199). Please HELP! BTW Cool canvas channel, interestingly discussed details. Thumbs UP, SUBSCRIPTION AND NOTIFICATIONS ON :) Currently I have 2 older motherboards from the TUF series: ASUS GRYPHON Z87 and I can not say a bad word. However, based on what you say, I conclude that it is getting worse with ASUS standards in the TUF series. The new TUF GAMING X570-PLUS motherboard is also not sensational.
Hi Laurent This is my first time building a pc , my friends said this is the best setup : Asus TUF z370 CPU I7-8700k Cpu cooler - DarkRock 4 RAM 16GB G Skill 3200 HDD 2TB+250 SSD Samsung Graphic 2070 RTX power Supply Serum I Tik 700 W Is that good or bad ? Thank you ❤️👍🏼
I'm sure, this board would do good enough in my third build, which is mostly intended for office work, RU-vid and very mild gaming @1080p. I've completed my Xenomorph inspired build the other day. Mainboard: Sabertooth 990FX R3.0, CPU: AMD FX-8350 + DDR3 RAM. Very outdated parts, I know. I just had them left from earlier builds. But even at idle: CPU temps too high and the whole system too noisy. Exchanging these parts with the TUF Z390-Plus Gaming Wi-Fi, an i3-9100 and 8 - 16 GB HyperX DDR4-2400 RAM should fix these issues. A used ROG Strix 1050 Ti is planned to be bought used and cheap - just for the visual aesthetics. If this mainboard was intended for a high-end gaming PC, it might struggle to be on par with the Z390 competitors. PS: No, I'm not opting for Ryzen, although this machine is mostly an office computer with just the option for gaming. I'm sure all of you have read every single line I wrote. ; )
Vanilla Bumblebee i had to buy this board to fit a rtx 2070 in the budget.... but i returned the rtx2070 because i felt i was being ripped off by nvidia ... and good them too my car payment was due lol
Hey! I’m glad I saw this before purchasing because I am about to spend £1200-1300 on a build, some of the parts it will contain: i5-9600k, RTX2060 Super, 32gb Corsair vengeance ram (2x16gb) also a intel 660p m.2 nvme SSD.(I have other parts like the PSU, case, HDD ect. but these or not the parts I am concerned about) Any recommendations on a motherboard I should get so I will be able to overclock without any issues and with a ton of expandability as I also might go SLI in future. Price isn’t really an issue I am more than happy to spend more to fit my needs! I wouldn’t normally ask but you seem quite knowledgeable any help would be appreciated.
i dont own this board but its one of the only budget z390 boards that does have multiple 3.1 plugs for front panel highly needed as i rarely use the back ones unless its for special things. my concern is around using a 9700k with this board and the vrm's i will not be over clocking and i will be using a haf xb evo case with all the fans i can possibly fit into it. except for the 200mm any forseen issues with a corsair hx750 platinum psu
I am having a much different experience with the z390 tuf pro gaming. No heat issues on the vrm with the i9 9900k at 4.8 at 100% for an hour. Also it supports SLI. This one doesn't have Bluetooth or wifi though. Pci-e is 16x or 8x 8x. Interesting how much of a difference the pro has vs the plus.
with a bios update my tuf plus is running with stability - but i'm always running hot. WIth modest overclocking i'm hitting 90ish degrees. Is the pro 8xVRM?
I bought one of these boards and have a concern about the configuration of the SATA and M.2 slots. The board comes with 6 SATA ports but shares those with the M.2 slots. So if you populate both M.2 slots you lose 3 SATA ports and are left with only three usable SATA ports. I also have a problem installing M.2's and running a GTX1070 in the 1st 16x PCIe slot. I think that a better design would be to not share the resources so much between M.2's, PCIe and SATA. Other than that it is a great performing board. I just wish there was a little more honesty about the features. 6 SATA ports sounds good until you want to use M.2's and find out if you do you lose SATA ports.. I do not know if this is typical on other boards but I found this one to be extremely limiting. Also the second PCIex16 slot is only x4 if you don't put anything in PCIex1 slots 3 and 4. So that's it. I have 3 unusable SATA ports and 2 unusable PCIex1 slots. Too much of a trade off and a little misleading in the specs. The graphics card problem might have to do with the CPU (i7-9700k) but I can't find anyone else having this problem
Thanx for the fast reply! I’m really debating for this or the msi mpg z390 carbon one! But I’m going towards this one more cause it will be cheaper. How’s the OC can I get a 4ghz+ with this Motherboard?
Hey Laurent's Choice just want to let you know I picked up the MSI MPG carbon and the i59600k and a cooler master liquid cool kit the ml240l rgb and cl16 ddr4!! all is running good I just wanted to ask you if I boost the clock speed for the ram and cpu and have it on 24/7 sometimes gaming and mostly watching videos! Is it bad to leave it at boost speed or OC cpu? While let’s say through the night while watching videos. I sometime leave my pc on only when I’m in the house if I leave I turn it off.
I use bluetooth awe the time mouse and keyboard by logitech is paired with three of my systems also a bluetooth headset for my gaming pc and my xbox controller of course as well as sending and receiving files from pc to my phone.. Plus I have bluetooth audio monitors which are handy when using my laptop when working on music..
good thing I just ordered mine (only without the totally unuseful wifi feature, waiting for delivery) and this is the first time I heard its not sli compatible , right after I had a chat with my brother in law to possibly go with sli on this board, instead of buying a freakin expensive rtx card... bummer..
I really wish I saw this video before ordering my 9900k, I have this motherboard, do you see any issues with using the 9900k on this board as you said the VRM will be overheating. In what scenario will it be overheating? When cpu overclocked or even on standard clocks? This is truly a big concern for me now.
Did you get any heating with your i9-9900k? I also ordered a week ago . Paired with 32 gb :3000Memory, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 - ASUS ROG STRIX.
I have been running this setup for about 2 and a half weeks now, from building it to first boot up absolutely 0 issues. No overheating issues but I am running everything at stock, I have no need to overclock. So I can confirm running everything on stock you will NOT have any issues with heating. I have a Coolermaster* H500M chassis which seems to keep everything cool, no liquid or water cooling only air cooling. This motherboard is running absolutely fine.
Awesome, i too am not looking for overclock so thats a relief. Im pairing it with DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM ARGB 360mm CASTLE 360 EX Liquid Cooler. Thanks for the input
I use the i9900k with this motherboard, never got any problem at all. Actually i can keep it very cool almost all the time. I will at some point change it to be able to use one more RTX2080. This board is not bad at all actually, is just limited but its one of the cheapest motherboards from 390, right ? Here in brazil the other, better, ones are 2x the price so, as a initial build i was not convinced to put the money. About the bluetooth, i basically never not use. All audio devices are bluetooth at this point: mic, headset, speakers, etc. Bluetooth was one restriction when searching as much as wifi. I have no cables at my home office.
Dear Laurent , This is a great motherboard for his price, so do you recommend me for a i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz , gtx 1650 4 gb ,16gb ram (gaming pc)
Ik this is an older video, but I have a question. You said that if you use an i9 9900k with this MB, you may face overheating of the VRMs. Does this happen even at stock speed or only while overclocking?
Hello, This is my setup. This motherboard, i7 9700k, MSI RTX 2070 Super, 1tb SSD, 2tb internal hard drive, cooler master 66.7 cfm liquid, 4 8gb ram 3600mHz. I had put my GPU in the second slot, how big of a problem or difference is that? My SSD is not behind the thermal shield, will this be a problem? can I check the temp of the SSD? I don't have my cooler plug into that specific plug, seems to be working okay. Should I move it? Last but not least, can I stream and game simultaneously with this setup or do I have to get another/different PC??
I bought this motherboard and I have a problem where my pc wont boot after I hit restart on windows 10. I've tried everything and have had no luck. I'm using an i7-9700k with this with a 750 watt power supply with a 360mm radiator. Can anyone help?
@@Laurentschoice i’m using this motherboard with a h60 corsair liquid cooler, and it uses a 15 pin sata. the motherboard doesn’t seem to have one though. what do i do?
Thank You Laurent for your review. Good video. One question, if you were NOT overclocking your Core i9 CPU, will this motherboard still have over heating issues?
When he was talking about the wifi adapter being useless, hes not taking into account that some of us dont have lan/ethernet in the room which we game in 🤦♂️
No. U will need a Z170 or Z270 powered motherboard. Here is one which i think should do the trick for u :) : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AqckqnzLWeM.html
A Bluetooth controller for like a maybe a story mode game where you want to sit back and chill and play the damn game or racing games for example you going to use keyboard and mouse well everyone else has an advantage because they're using controllers SMH
Someone please help me!! So I am building my first gaming pc using this motherboard and I ran into the problem that I can’t find where the p led and hdd led and power sw wires go
That's how he criticizes an Asus budget Intel 1151 motherboard explains why it's so bad for a $500 Intel I-9 9900 k and how you can't SLI this motherboard the purpose is to be a budget alternative motherboard for this generation not to put a bunch of expensive parts in it if you were going to do that get more expensive motherboard SMH
Hi Laurent, Thank you for this review. What can I say? I was very much looking forward to the TUF review. I think in my previous comments/correspondence with you about this I had a miscommunication as I fully thought this review was going to be about a different beast - the TUF X299 Mark 1 board. That's the board I am looking at buying early next year with one of the refreshed Skylake CPUs. Anyway, I was very interested to watch this review as it went along. Like you, my heart sank a bit when you described some of the quite surprising shortcomings and omissions that, quite frankly, are unacceptable in such a board. Dropping the 10,000 hours down to 5,000 hours is lunacy in a board like this. 2 USBs on the back panel is unforgivable and probably unworkable for many users. No USB C is mind boggling! I could not believe it. I rushed to confirm that the X299 still has all these things done properly and, at least based on the ASUS web site, it does. I could never consider this TUF 390 board. It beggars belief ASUS could produce such an under-specified thing when they are shooting for the TUF and '"military" reputation. Incidentally Laurent, I could stand corrected, but I doubt this Z390 TUF board has the 5-year warranty. My understanding is that the 5 year warranty is reserved ONLY for the TUF X299 boards, being the Mark 1 and Mark 2. I looked everywhere on the TUF Z390 website pages and no mention whatsoever of 'any' warranty. It is, however, mentioned large on the X299 TUF page in its own little section and prominently displayed. I recall a year or so ago reading a few comments on different forums where ASUS was denying cover after the 2nd or 3rd(?) year when the owners thought they had the 5 year warranty on the TUF Gaming. ASUS stated that the 'GAMING' TUF was a different warranty to the X299 TUF models (which are not 'gaming' boards). Things may have changed and I feel with the truncated feature set on this Z390 board a 5 year is the least they could do to compensate. Oh well, what can you do? So Laurent, I think now is the absolute perfect time to do a full review on the TUF X299 Mark 1 board and investigate exactly how it compares to this Z390 imposter. I love the way you tear things apart in the descriptions and leave no stone unturned and I love the way that you are fair but still say if something is not up to standard if that's the right call to make. Thank you again and keep up the great work, it is much appreciated. Would love to see that X299 board reviewed!
Hello Laurent, I’m having trouble with the processor and heat sink, I’m trying to build a PC using this motherboard and came across a few problems with the screws. Some tips? (I understand this video is old, I hope you still reply!)
??? I have 2 TUF 390s ... wifi model and not. My review is solely based on my testing and appreciation. Not based on what others or Asus may say. Btw Asus was not particularly pleased by this review . Are u sure u meant to comment my video?
I wish I watched this review before I bout this board. This is the worst motherboard I have ever bought. I have had nothing but problems with the USB ports and sound issues. Their customer support team has escalated 3 of my issues to level 2 and they haven't called back. In the end I was told to update the BIOS and that made the M2 drive not recolonized as a boot device. I had to take it to a shop to get it fixed and when I got it back my windows 10 was not long recognized as a activated copy. I will never buy any Asus product again.
