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Tuning up my Stihl MS661 | How to Tune a Chainsaw! 

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0:00 Introduction
2:22 Part Overview
2:49 Diagnosing the problem
3:41 Fuel System
7:58 Clutch Inspection
17:43 Sparkplug
20:08 Piston/Cylinder
38:13 Putting Saw Back Together
44:08 Cleaning the Bar
45:44 Testing the Saw
46:25 Outro

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@jesseshort8
@jesseshort8 Год назад
This is by far one of the best breakdown videos on RU-vid. Super informative, great job Jacob and Gordy!
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Sensei948
@Sensei948 Год назад
@@GuiltyofTreeson oil mix 33:1 ?
@just6979
@just6979 Год назад
Before anyone tries to say "chains don't stretch, they wear", he literally referred to the wear in the pins as causing the "stretch". It's just semantics, tomayto tomahto.
@jameshedrick605
@jameshedrick605 Год назад
I've had someone that used chainsaws all their life tell me that same thing
@KayBeee
@KayBeee Год назад
Tuhmater
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
You are correct. The chain is measurably longer, but not because any of the metal elongated. Instead, the wear on the moving parts allowed it to happen. I still call it stretching anyway.
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@happycamper6352 what would the wear at the bottom of the chain tie straps be called where they come into contact with the bar rails?
@duncandogster
@duncandogster Год назад
@@iffykidmn8170 I've always heard it called chain wear, but it rarely becomes an issue, as the teeth are usually filled to nubs well before that becomes an issue. Filing the bar surface to flat and smooth was something that was not covered here, which is an important regular service, though.
@harryg6013
@harryg6013 Год назад
Gordy is a nice guy and knows his stuff, thank you Jake!
@richardflagg3084
@richardflagg3084 Год назад
Another Master Class. Gordy touched on all the wear parts that get forgotten. Jacob, damn fine job editing. Gordy stole the show and managed to get some comedic relief in. As Jacob's saw is being taken apart, it's like he's at the doctors office having to explain what happened in the last 4 years. I enjoyed every minute of the video. Thanks to both of you!!!
@westcoastsaw1368
@westcoastsaw1368 Год назад
Thanks Richard Jacob and I pretty much laugh non stop when we get together throwing jabs at each other it’s a good time 😂
@Sethhaun78
@Sethhaun78 Год назад
That ultra no no
@barclaygunn6404
@barclaygunn6404 Год назад
I agree, this video was absolutely superb - so informative!
@simonthorpe5519
@simonthorpe5519 9 месяцев назад
@@westcoastsaw1368we need a video of how to properly clean a saw
@joederringer6716
@joederringer6716 3 месяца назад
@@westcoastsaw1368on this rebuild how much time would you say the saw has? Do you wait until a drop in performance to do a rebuild or do you have a different measurement for rebuild time? Guys using their saw’s daily compared to part time users which I am. Trying to get a idea on ideal time to do a rebuild. Excellent video Thank You appreciate it!
@wrstew1272
@wrstew1272 Год назад
You are so lucky to have created a relationship with Gordy. What a wonderful source of saw knowledge! More Gordy videos!
@seancoyle6463
@seancoyle6463 Год назад
I’m a licensed mechanic turned arborist. This video is incredibly helpful and very well done! Thanks fellas
@caseyobryantjones7564
@caseyobryantjones7564 Год назад
I love how Jacob is like every other arborist and doesn’t maintenance his saw just cleans it. Thank you very much for the informative video
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
The sad part is, many don't even clean either. I've been guilty of that sometimes.
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
most arborist saws are never cleaned or anything.
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
@@alexstromberg7696 I would say most of us do some minor paintbrush cleaning when we change/sharpen chains, and same just before removing fuel mix/bar oil caps. We also clean the oiler hole on the bar quite often since it tends to clog about twice per second or so it seems on some jobs. But, outside of that, we run the saws hard and neglect maintenance for the most part, and yet they last many years of daily use anyway.
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW Год назад
Whaaaat?? Arborist clean there saws daily
@lifeoftreedom
@lifeoftreedom Год назад
There's a tonne of really useful information in this video - many thanks to Jake & Gordy for making it. For UK people (of which I am) some of this maintenance (sprocket, needle bearing etc) is covered in the first of the NPTC chainsaw certifications - "002003 - City & Guilds NPTC Level 2 Award in Chainsaw Maintenance and Cross Cutting" (used to be CS30). Whilst the certification doesn't give you experience (only experience will), it does give you a base level of knowledge and awareness so that you can keep your kit in good condition.
@greeenestbasterd6896
@greeenestbasterd6896 Год назад
Merist Wood?😉
@tatehogan5685
@tatehogan5685 Год назад
Definitely on board to see a bar tuneup from Gordy. He did a great job breaking down what he was doing. I like knowing the "why behind the what" so this was definitely a great video for me
@cisco5400
@cisco5400 Месяц назад
Great info, so much easier to understand if its explained in a way based on functionality and how parts can be damaged and how to prevent parts from being damaged if you take care of them. Thanks alot! :)
@RMM--uv7uk
@RMM--uv7uk Год назад
Another great Gordy teaching class. Keep these types of videos coming.
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
More to come!
@rochekeh
@rochekeh Год назад
this could not have been timed better, I walked in the door with a second hand, slightly damaged 661 the day this was posted. Great great video, hugely helpful and totally demystified the inside of the saw for me. Huge thanks
@IvorClegg
@IvorClegg Год назад
More excellent content, thanks! For anyone looking to get hold of one of the stainless steel 'pliers' Gordy used for the tricky small stuff, they're properly called an 'Artery Forceps'. They're designed to be used to hold/manipulate/clamp off blood vessels during medical procedures/surgery. They're widely available off the Internet for cheap, in several sizes and shapes.
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
I think they might have been also known as roach clips.😉😁 I think the non serrated ones would be arterial forceps/clamps and serrated for grasping things like suture needles and such.
@jolkraeremeark6949
@jolkraeremeark6949 Год назад
@@iffykidmn8170 why would you clip a roach?😁
@Smokey66s
@Smokey66s 9 месяцев назад
New “Westcoast Saw” product, Dr Gordy’s Signature gas line “Artery clamps” in stainless steel or Stihl 500i titanium.
@remiskeet
@remiskeet 5 месяцев назад
Princess Auto usually carries forceps at very nice prices :)
@tytruly3031
@tytruly3031 3 месяца назад
In high school in the 70's we used them as roach clips.
@tomschaefer221
@tomschaefer221 Год назад
You guys are awesome to watch and learn from. I have learned so many things from both of you. I could watch these kind of videos for hours! Thank you both very much!!
@diamondrock1970
@diamondrock1970 4 месяца назад
Hello, my name is Sal. I just want to say that I went through the whole video with you guys and this is just like a school class. It really help me that was a good teaching right there. Thank you so much for the channel and your body that did the chainsaw service . God bless you guys.
@DruFishing
@DruFishing 8 месяцев назад
Just found this somewhat older video and man it i love s loaded full of knowledge and maintenance tips I hadn’t really thought about before. Love when you and Gordy join forces.
@litewatefitr
@litewatefitr Год назад
Love when you guys collaborate. The pace of the video is so chill. Gordy's shop seems like such a comfortable place to be.
@stephenfriedrich1140
@stephenfriedrich1140 Год назад
Awesome job Gordy explaining as you go in detail and thanks Jacob for recording this.
@deniscb3244
@deniscb3244 Год назад
Outstanding preparation and presentation by both of you. The clarity and sequencing is simply 1st class.
@eltravieso111
@eltravieso111 3 месяца назад
Very helpful to see others go through a saw and give comments and tips. Thanks!
@Eastcoasttreeguy
@Eastcoasttreeguy 6 месяцев назад
What an informative and useful video. Thank you Jacob and Gody for taking the time to share your knowledge. I learn a few things.
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW Год назад
This is by far the best and most informative chainsaw video I have watched yet. Appreciate it guy's. Stay safe
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Wow, thanks!
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW
@JHizzleinthebizzlePNW Год назад
Ofcourse.hope you guys are doing well!
@slow_bike_mike
@slow_bike_mike Год назад
Great video. Good points that often get overlooked by many people. And about the bar oil, every drop gets thrown on the ground anyway. Just usually not all in one spot.
@Daniel_Vandiver
@Daniel_Vandiver Год назад
I watched every single second of this. Outstanding. Thank you.
@Corsonmcnash
@Corsonmcnash Год назад
Great info, Perfect timing. Now I've got a few things to tune up on the arsenal. Was not aware of the particularities of the clutch drum/sprocket interface. Two 201tcs a 250 and old but semi faithful 460 are gonna get some love next week. Thanks Gordy and Jake. - an environmentalist who made it through the whole vid.
@horseshoeshandgrenades5384
@horseshoeshandgrenades5384 9 месяцев назад
This video is absolutely awesome. Gives me the confidence to work on my 461 instead of just taking to the shop. Thank you guys very much
@angeljjustice1345
@angeljjustice1345 Год назад
Good Lord I need to rip into my 026...25 years old and never tore it apart...changed the clutch but thats it!
@toonybrain
@toonybrain 8 дней назад
Excellent stuff. I’m looking forward to applying much of this info to my Stihl MS260 that’s been running more sluggish lately. Thank you.
@timmoline2190
@timmoline2190 Год назад
The attention to detail is amazing. Nice job 👍
@OgleBilly
@OgleBilly Год назад
I really enjoyed this video! I love doing my own maintenance and really enjoyed learning the in-depth maintenance of a chainsaw! I have a mid 90s Jonsered 670 Champ that I’ve taken care of like that and it still serves me today after cutting timber with it for several years! I just have purchased a new Stihl, 500 I an am looking forward to giving some loving as well! Thanks again for a great video!
@sandsock
@sandsock Год назад
Gordy is a great teacher. You see that , arborsite. He grease's his needles. Simple maintenance saves saws
@coltjansen
@coltjansen Год назад
Wonderfully explained in great detail but not over abundance of useless info....i understand most all that was gone over but i enjoyed the video completely....very good.
@koda321123
@koda321123 Год назад
There is a special greasegun for greasing the rollerbearing in the clutch, I think it is made by Oregon. There is a greasepoint in the end of the crankshaft.😉
@justinsnyder6256
@justinsnyder6256 Год назад
Yes a special grease that doesn't get all over the clutch. Not all saws have that hole.
@garykirk1968
@garykirk1968 Год назад
Oregon Part number 54-201..
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
Most stihls do not have that grease point. All pro Husqvarnas do though.
@Troffy21
@Troffy21 Год назад
Mate I learned so much from this. Thank you. Recently upgraded to a 500 from a 291 and that cowbell thing happened on the old saw. The chain had worn channels in the sprocket
@mrtennessee6862
@mrtennessee6862 Год назад
Two great channels working together, great video y'all.
@elijahowens8507
@elijahowens8507 Год назад
Awesome video guys! Appreciate taking the time to explain everything in detail.
@stihl0256
@stihl0256 Год назад
Excellent description of all the terrible things I have done or failed to do to my saws over the years.
@scottnovak8903
@scottnovak8903 5 месяцев назад
Great information, I've had my 026 pro since 2015 traded my uncle and always clean any saws, immediately I found my uncle neglected bad fins on jug filled up with dust and dirt, knew it's bad packing from years, glad about fins behind pull start . I need to rebuild it, give a lot of life. I've been continuously using about 3 year's ran beside a friend's husky 395 my little beast kept up with him to. Mine has great perfect start protocol, choke 3 pulls and bark, move choke up 1 level pull and run, when it doesn't start easy, there's a problem. Thank you guys 😉
@jamestaylor7746
@jamestaylor7746 8 месяцев назад
Very informative, complete, and explained in a way that is easily understood. Thank you both!
@jamestaylor7746
@jamestaylor7746 8 месяцев назад
Is checking the ring gap something that you were concerned with?
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury Год назад
That was a really interesting video. Thanks Jacob and Gordy, good job 👍🏻
@_Cleck_
@_Cleck_ Месяц назад
This is a great video, super helpful breakdown. My friend and I are getting (2) 261s where someone straight gassed em. We're expecting a full rebuild, so this was helpful to see and hear some maintenance tips
@stevyduke2637
@stevyduke2637 Год назад
Good information, thanks Gordy and Jacob!
@enricami2494
@enricami2494 2 месяца назад
Gordy is a Pro. Thanks for the seasoned techniques and detailed descriptions of my ms661
@Shifffyy
@Shifffyy Год назад
Powerful video. Thanks Jake and Gordie
@Chuckrussell75
@Chuckrussell75 Год назад
Thanks Jake, & Gordy. Dude's shop is SICK. Sorry for your guys' incredible loss of Jed. God Bless.
@jeffreyharrington5057
@jeffreyharrington5057 Год назад
This was great very informative and I'm gonna feel much more confident abput fixing & maintaining my saws.
@dadandwestonwork4845
@dadandwestonwork4845 Год назад
Great video and awesome tips. I am not a pro but a saw enthusiast and have many WCS products which are the best of the best. Thanks for sharing the tips and your knowledge with us.
@oldschoolmoto
@oldschoolmoto Год назад
Great job fellas. like the way gordy explains everything .
@awac4577
@awac4577 Год назад
Wow! This was fantastic. Thank you guys for sharing your knowedge.
@jvidas1
@jvidas1 Год назад
Great video. I’d love to see how Gordy goes about setting the high/low idle screws on the carb. Thanks!
@Ceemysix
@Ceemysix Год назад
Wow! Really nice content. Thanks to both of you.
@jimbrewer2893
@jimbrewer2893 Год назад
Really good video. Gave me a good refresher on servicing saws. The clutch bearing, great reminder. And also applies to trimmers/weedeaters.
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Glad it helped!
@BraydenSomers
@BraydenSomers Год назад
Amazing video. Thanks Jacob and Gordy!
@greathornedforge1133
@greathornedforge1133 Год назад
So much knowledge shared in this video and I appreciate it! Thank you sir.
@EasyMoneyCrew
@EasyMoneyCrew Год назад
wow thanks so much for this video, i leaned so much stuff. Gordy really knows his stuff, cool to learn from someone who knows what they're doing.
@tammyhoffman6486
@tammyhoffman6486 9 месяцев назад
This video was outstanding. Looking forward to watching more. Thanks again.
@jimbee2145
@jimbee2145 Год назад
Great video man, Gordy knows his stuff. I have rebuilt a couple blown up saws and was working a ms360 before deployed and was planning on buying a new cylinder. Now I'm gonna try that honing tool you guys used.
@jeffgerm2
@jeffgerm2 9 месяцев назад
Thanks guys! Great tutorial!
@slimgrowden
@slimgrowden Год назад
What a great video got the same saw done by Gorty and I didn’t know about 90% of what is shown on this video! Saw is still running like a hot rod. Great video fellas🤙🏻🤟🏻
@gogro3322
@gogro3322 Год назад
Great detailed info, thanks for the great edited overview. Love my ms660 👍✅
@eastcoastozzy2884
@eastcoastozzy2884 Год назад
Most informative video I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you
@1234554321ep67890
@1234554321ep67890 Год назад
Really great info! Very helpful to see how the pro's do it. Thanks!
@robertwilmesherr7002
@robertwilmesherr7002 Год назад
So much great information. Thanks!
@kevinantaki5723
@kevinantaki5723 Год назад
It was fun to watch the rebuild, and now I will impatiently wait for the next video where you run the saw
@papaduck2443
@papaduck2443 Год назад
Yes, please do a video on bar maintanance and refubishing! Great video as well! Keep up the great content.
@noonehere1793
@noonehere1793 Год назад
Thanks….great video on the ‘mysteries’ inside!👍👍
@coltoncook4058
@coltoncook4058 Год назад
Great video Jacob! Very interesting stuff and Gordy has such a nice shop.
@nicon1011
@nicon1011 Год назад
Its nice to see you guys work together the stabs at arborists are to funny
@ericmacmillan565
@ericmacmillan565 Год назад
Great video…. Gordy’s parts are awesome, I have them on three of my Stihl’s. Awesome quality! Thanks for such an informative video! Class act
@johncooper5293
@johncooper5293 Год назад
Excellent howto and loads if useful tips. Really enjoyed you both talking about this.
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@JJ-gd7gf
@JJ-gd7gf Год назад
Nice tutorial Gordy. Great job!
@scottnock5241
@scottnock5241 Год назад
Great teaching video guys!!!
@jrstrange123
@jrstrange123 Год назад
Best chain saw maintenance video to date!
@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648
@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 Год назад
What a great explanation on why to take care of your saw, you could save someone a lot of money
@hanschristianendrerud3800
@hanschristianendrerud3800 11 месяцев назад
Norway here. I use this system a lot, but use mostly netted types. My bags are filled in bag stand that widens the bag and give the right tension
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
When Gordy isn't looking, replace that plug with a new decompression valve. Repeated pull-starts, especially when not using the decompression valve, will speed up the onset of periostitis/arthritis. That's something that really isn't noticed until it's too late when you're an old fart like me. It's usually not debilitating, but rather a chronic annoyance. Impact exercises are often to blame, and the pull cord on a good compression engine can cause significant stress on joints over time. Personally I have a bad habit of yanking that pull cord like I'm trying to break it, and the first pull on a cold start is usually the toughest. Sometimes if I think to do it, I pull it to do just one turn over, then let it wind back in to do the first full pull. An old logger/log truck driver taught me that one. Honestly, I love the decompression valve now that I'm old enough to notice the difference.
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
You dont start a saw enough for arthritis. Decomps are just a hassle.
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
@@alexstromberg7696 I have issues with my shoulder, and I believe that the compression in a pull start is a contributing factor. It is certainly not the only factor though. I can't imagine what the count would be if I tallied the number of pulls per day any of us have. The decompression valve is simply the push of a button and you don't even have to "unpush" it; it just sorta re-seals when the engine fires. The only limitation is what was mentioned in the video, a very real possibility, that the valve could leak in a small and progressively larger way over a long time of using the saw, but in that case, I can just replace the relatively affordable and simple-to-replace part.
@jolkraeremeark6949
@jolkraeremeark6949 Год назад
@@alexstromberg7696 not sure how the decomp is even possibly a hassle?
@spacecat86
@spacecat86 8 месяцев назад
@@alexstromberg7696 do you do treework for a living?
@dooletube
@dooletube Год назад
Awesome content. Gordy is so good at explaining stuff
@mute7116
@mute7116 Год назад
Thanks Gordy and Jake.
@troycoates5822
@troycoates5822 Год назад
Great stuff , learned alot, you two work well together, look forward to more like this! 🙂
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella Год назад
Great video. I have a buddy who’s an arborist and he sent this to me. I’ve been studying small engine work for about 18 months and working on chainsaws, among other things, and I learned a few things from this video. I wouldn’t have called it tuning though - it’s a servicing job.
@andik859
@andik859 8 месяцев назад
And i watch this and wait for tuning this chainsaw. 😂
@inilegnam
@inilegnam Год назад
Good reminder, thanks Jacob and Gordy! Gonna give my 362 some love.
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Right on!
@Jamie-vp2yb
@Jamie-vp2yb Год назад
Excellent video, Very informative!
@williamsolomon1307
@williamsolomon1307 Год назад
Well, I learned some stuff! Thanks guys. I really appreciate the lesson.
@philkelly4306
@philkelly4306 Год назад
Great content and presentation, very practical and informative…thanks
@j.j.clingman4083
@j.j.clingman4083 Год назад
Oh buddy I always hated it when a customer would bring in a saw all dirty!!! But one thing I would always say so that I wouldn’t get all made about it is it gives me an idea of how a person has treated there saw over the years and this also gives me an idea of what all to look for wear on!!! This has absolutely helped out by a person bringing in a saw that isn’t clean but I will also charge them for my cleaning time!!! Awesome video buddy and remember keep up all the hard work buddy!!!!
@tillmeischner7118
@tillmeischner7118 5 месяцев назад
Super Video, nice harmony and respect between you guys. One thing (cant read through all the comments maybe somebody allready mentioned it) I learned -what may sound a little smartarsy: The piston clips should be put in with the open side pointing upwards- to prevent velocity of piston movement up and down to compress the clip so that it could be possible to work its way out the groove it is sitting in. If the open side of the clip points up it just gets pressed in tighter because the piston doesn´t move forward and backwards. God bless you Americans
@brianarcher363
@brianarcher363 Год назад
That was an awesome informative video! Thanks guys.
@brandoncarlson1508
@brandoncarlson1508 6 месяцев назад
Gordy is an expert at explaining the function of everything on a saw
@gravelr512
@gravelr512 Год назад
Great video guys. A great video to learn from. Looking forward to the bar video.
@DorianMartins
@DorianMartins Год назад
Love this content, big hug from 🇵🇹
@troymeredith9528
@troymeredith9528 Год назад
Worn parts like this can also play havoc with how your saw cuts,eg curving in a cut.etc.while I have the clutch off I will degrease under neath and blow it out.great video Jacob and Gordy.
@greasygal00
@greasygal00 Год назад
What a video, what a video! I just recently started using a chainsaw for work and have become obsessed. I've found your channels in the process of digging for more knowledge. Your videos are so very entertaining on top of being a fantastic source of education - just wanted to express some appreciation and cheer you on!
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Thank you!
@addictedtobedrock5282
@addictedtobedrock5282 Год назад
Good video, thanks for the info. The only thing that I was surprised with was not cleaning the air filter.
@DBlank72
@DBlank72 Год назад
Gordy sure knows his stuff good video from both of you!
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Thanks Drew!
@garykirk1968
@garykirk1968 Год назад
Hey guys, you can grease the clutch bearing through the end of the crankshaft. That little hole in the end is a needle point grease opening. Oregon makes a grease gun for this purpose. Part number is 54-201. Hope this helps anyone whose never known this, I am not sure if it works on all saws, but do it to every new vuild that I can. ETA; This information does not apply to Stihl saws.. I was humbled by another on this thread. And just wanted to share that
@happycamper6352
@happycamper6352 Год назад
Thank you; I didn't know this until reading it.
@tessierrr
@tessierrr Год назад
and this is why i love the internet 😄
@garykirk1968
@garykirk1968 Год назад
@@tessierrr Sarcasm, or did you learn something today? LOL
@BPeterson730
@BPeterson730 Год назад
Nice tip!
@richardmiller4104
@richardmiller4104 Год назад
Not on stihls.
@leroymorris6036
@leroymorris6036 8 месяцев назад
Thank you, great tips.
@randystephens1725
@randystephens1725 Год назад
Great video. Thank you Gordy & Jake.
@GuiltyofTreeson
@GuiltyofTreeson Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@robsimons1163
@robsimons1163 Год назад
Jake, I want to express to you my gratitude for what you do. Sincerely, Rob Simons. P.s. Gordy too
@ButtKoWitz
@ButtKoWitz Год назад
Maybe mentioned, but I only skimmed through comments... (Around 18:40), use a little dielectric grease, windex, or soapy water on the plug wire to ease pulling it through the boot.
@nickanto
@nickanto Год назад
He’s a great teacher
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