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Start at 2:13 to skip the intro, or click here for a helmet-cam ride: • Turbo Diesel Mini Bike...
This is an idea I've had since I was a kid, and after watching Mike Cberts Diesel mini bike video I was inspired to put together my own! The frame has been around since I was 4 years old! At that point it was powered by a 3 hp Briggs and Stratton and is a Fox corporation, Trail Bug probably from the 60's or early 70's. The engine is a copy of a 10 hp Yanmar single cylinder Diesel engine and the turbo is similar to the one on my Honda CX-500 Turbo motorcycle. The engine runs at 3,600 rpm max and top speed so far is 39.3 mph.
Here's a description of 2 stroke & 4 stroke Diesel engines:
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@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 8 лет назад
Bet the neighbors just love this guy
@stephensu4371
@stephensu4371 7 лет назад
pleasecho2 no joking, absolutely
@willybshreddn3794
@willybshreddn3794 5 лет назад
If Ihad dude as a neighbor, we'd end up best buds hated by the whole neighborhood.
@brocku0
@brocku0 4 года назад
haha, my neighbors hate me but they're stuck up pricks so I don't give a fuck
@68Squid
@68Squid 10 лет назад
diesel smoke coming from a mini-bike makes me smile like a kid!
@jacobboyington6606
@jacobboyington6606 3 месяца назад
No
@bashkillswitch
@bashkillswitch 10 лет назад
Bahahaha, sick. I love it. Especially the fact I'm used to seeing these things with the itty bitty 3-4hp engines and a whole lot of empty space in the frame, but with that engine shoehorned in there it's looking more like you're riding an engine, one that incidentally happens to have wheels attached to it.
@Dagen2112
@Dagen2112 Год назад
Even 6 or 7 horsepower ones have space still lol
@impulsivedesigns
@impulsivedesigns 8 лет назад
So was the goal to have a tow truck in the end? lol I like it. You could put a plow in front of that.
@sire5582
@sire5582 8 лет назад
That's awesome. You should call it mini smog.
@TrailChaser
@TrailChaser 12 лет назад
I think what you're thinking is the exhaust is the intake from the turbo..? But what do I know.. LOVE the bike... Now you can literally smoke other minibikes.
@jazzsoul60
@jazzsoul60 9 лет назад
Cleaner than a Volkswagen.
@scoobydoomysterychannel7119
@scoobydoomysterychannel7119 6 лет назад
N7 At least you can breathe near an American tailpipe.
@colbyleenewton8975
@colbyleenewton8975 6 лет назад
Nekoja7 Freeride Motocross dum fuck
@dominator4260
@dominator4260 6 лет назад
@Nekoja7 Freeride Motocross Hahaha your Both right
@tebibyte2357
@tebibyte2357 5 лет назад
@@fairyheli2 ikr
@RedfishInc
@RedfishInc 5 лет назад
Ha!
@highvoltagefeathers
@highvoltagefeathers 12 лет назад
Haha I love the puffs of smoke when you hit the gas from a standstill. Looks like it should be pulling a sled for distance on a dirt track. Sweet little bike!
@kevman77
@kevman77 10 лет назад
When ridden, it will have 3 dipsticks.
@rommelcruz3651
@rommelcruz3651 4 года назад
Man, i could do this all day, ride the back roads with this!!
@austinfacemyer7790
@austinfacemyer7790 8 лет назад
dude that thing is bad ass 😉
@jimmypopp2695
@jimmypopp2695 5 лет назад
I love this thing!!!
@jimmypopp2695
@jimmypopp2695 5 лет назад
When I was in college grrrrrrrls used to actually fight over who I would take home because my Harley was soooo loud and vibrated soo much. They actually said that they would cum several times before we ever got to where we were going.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 лет назад
1000 mosquitos died in the making of this interesting turbo diesel smokey video 7yrs ago!! Definitely not compliant to Euro 5 Emission requirements
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Actually this is a brand new engine. It came straight out of the crate for this build, what you're hearing is the detonation or knock that is common in older Diesel engines. It has a single-shot mechanical fuel injection system which are notoriously loud.
@hootmanwillie
@hootmanwillie 9 лет назад
that's a great little bike, no more pollution than a truck, or a bus. lots of fun.
@thomas.861
@thomas.861 10 лет назад
thats one awesome looking minibike and it seems pretty fast to. imagine adding a sidecart
@MrEvilTag
@MrEvilTag 8 лет назад
hmm...think i can slap that engine on a dirt bike?
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 7 лет назад
Dante Planeta I wish I could get a hold of about 5 more of them so I could do just that!
@dragracer464
@dragracer464 12 лет назад
A diesel mini bike! That is by far the coolest mini bike i have ever seen!
@Zombunist
@Zombunist 10 лет назад
love the smoke!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
The turbo is a IHI RHB-31. It is the smallest production turbo made and is what's found on a Honda CX-500 Turbo motorcycle.
@starpuss
@starpuss 10 лет назад
I Would not want that by my Nutz , I seen one of them motors blow up!
@observingrogue7652
@observingrogue7652 5 лет назад
Is there a general rule for how much boost is too much, for a small diesel engine?
@wyattlarrick3246
@wyattlarrick3246 5 лет назад
@@observingrogue7652 Yeah, I'd say under 5 psi in most cases. Little diesels like this one are air-cooled, so I would think the pistons are within an inch or so of the exterior part of the block, so they couldn't be very thick. 5 psi is where I'd put the cap on boost and play it safe.
@observingrogue7652
@observingrogue7652 5 лет назад
@@wyattlarrick3246 Ok. Thank you.
@intotheadventure2592
@intotheadventure2592 5 лет назад
You seen it
@davidb1089
@davidb1089 4 года назад
@@hondamonkeylover2931 well its chinese so it will blow lol.. I wish cummins made like a 0.5L turbo diesel or Caterpillar
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Thanks! I haven't touched the injection pump at all. The engine was brand new never run when I put it in that frame. All that smoke is just how it was designed from the factory.. Pretty wild that they let it pump that much fuel in todays "smokeless" society.
@jmartin9059
@jmartin9059 8 лет назад
I wonder how that turbo diesel minibike engine would work on an old softail Harley frame.
@chriss7762
@chriss7762 5 лет назад
Honda grom has some competition now
@DiveOregon
@DiveOregon 10 лет назад
you should build a kit and sell it
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Thanks for the message, the engine is an industrial engine from a generator or pressure washer. They sell a smaller version of it too that is 6 hp. Either one seems to work great for a go kart.
@tedhaze1
@tedhaze1 10 лет назад
best mini ive ever seen
@ianhastings8685
@ianhastings8685 4 года назад
Wow I never thought I would see a Minibike rolling coal
@kevet1968
@kevet1968 8 лет назад
Torquey little thing!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Thanks Matt! I think this motor in a Ruckus would be amazing! If I ever find a Ruckus without a motor for cheap or free I'll have to do a re-power with Diesel!
@Smittyschannel
@Smittyschannel 10 лет назад
cool; need to put something like that in a small street legal motorcycle or moped & get 100 mpg on the road :-)
@skyroboss
@skyroboss 5 лет назад
InfiniteMPG much more then 100 if tuned right.
@hiyadroogs
@hiyadroogs 12 лет назад
I have a diesel Royal Enfield with the same engine. Started out at 102 mpg (imperial gallon) under factory fuel settings, now, after adjusting the fuel screw & fine tuning, I'm getting 166 mpg without trying. No loss of performance.
@Haderg33
@Haderg33 8 лет назад
I would turn up the fuel then you got a whole coal mine! Lol
@antonio1681
@antonio1681 6 лет назад
Trx 300 how do you turn it up to roll coal
@hvguy
@hvguy 6 лет назад
Antonio APC79 you can't, everything is pre set, would have to disassemble the pump and hand build or find a similar replacement element. Could possibly change the injector nozzle
@hvguy
@hvguy 5 лет назад
@Indosarnia no idea, possibly different injectors
@ibdaffy
@ibdaffy 10 лет назад
TurboS, thank you for that. You have restored my faith in humanity and the individual! Happy New Year!
@cameroncrush9591
@cameroncrush9591 10 лет назад
You should have put it on a go cart
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
Hey, sorry for the delay in responding but yes it does actually work. I've been able to make over 10 psi but you have to get a pretty good load on the engine which is somewhat hard to do. The compressor discharge pipe gets too hot to touch after riding it for a while.
@abenormal9075
@abenormal9075 8 лет назад
Be interesting to see how this bike performs with the turbo removed, that way you'd know if the turbo has actually boosted performance or just over fueled the engine hence the black cloud following you around. Anyway good work I like it, looks fun
@rcmen2637
@rcmen2637 8 лет назад
your profile picture speaks the truth
@MantisGarageB
@MantisGarageB 8 лет назад
You are just jealous cuz he is rolling coal on his turbo mini chopper while you are sitting in a cubicle. JK but not really
@abenormal9075
@abenormal9075 8 лет назад
+Mantis Garage I'm jealous that he lives in a country where you can ride a mini bike up and down the road without some penis calling the police. I think what he has created is cool and I admire his engineering ability
@Namesakes.unit-x-10sq10
@Namesakes.unit-x-10sq10 8 лет назад
+Abe Normal so you live in scandinavia/france/germany or england?
@abenormal9075
@abenormal9075 8 лет назад
+William Jenssen Yes you guessed correctly, England a country where you dare not fart in a public area without fear of imprisonment... well maybe that's a exaggeration but there are too many silly laws that stop one from having fun
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Hey thanks for the comment and question. The engine I used is a clone of the 10 hp Yanmar engine. I bought it online and they are indeed available from a few different sellers. I imagine the engine can't be sold in California but I've never seen anywhere that they are controlled in the rest of the country. You commonly see them for sale as powerplants for generators and pressure washers.
@treyyaple7123
@treyyaple7123 9 лет назад
People ask why i say CUZ WHY THE FUCK NOT?
@seahorsecowboys
@seahorsecowboys 12 лет назад
Where the hell was this mini bike when I was 12 ?!....kwel build bro ...goes to show we all have that kid in us still !.....peace
@alicastro1857
@alicastro1857 9 лет назад
in the end of the day you will smell like diesel. but nice work!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 9 лет назад
This is a true statement! Thanks for the comment.
@sunday_funday7765
@sunday_funday7765 9 лет назад
thats good . Better then smelling like a girl!
9 лет назад
Shun Takara just need a cup of coffee and the smell of diesel in the morning.
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 9 лет назад
Shun Takara Yeah thats what we call "Cologne". A dab of diesel on the shirt and a bit of gun oil behind the ears and you can get your "Man card"
@alicastro1857
@alicastro1857 9 лет назад
i build a motorcycle using my stingray bike scwinn with chinese 49 cc engine i hate it.. and my hands always dirty
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
Thanks for the comment and I wasn't sure how it was going to work either but I got the smallest turbocharger I could find and it definitely makes a noticeable difference. If you load the engine down, say on a steep hill, it easily makes 10 lbs. of boost.
@wjackstl
@wjackstl 8 лет назад
the only thing I dislike was the fuel tank....put it under the seat
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 8 лет назад
I agree with you on the location of the fuel tank. The only problem with putting it under the seat is, that's where the turbo is and there's not much extra space.
@wjackstl
@wjackstl 8 лет назад
yeah, turbos are not small....especially on a minibike lol one final thought: unless this is your daily transport to work, maybe a smaller fuel tank would be more accommodating? something like the fuel tank from a 2 cycle gas trimmer? it might even sit well behind your seat, because of it's curved shape. okay, i'm done giving my not-asked-for 2¢ now! later
@BigMuddyCountry
@BigMuddyCountry 8 лет назад
that turbo though is the world's smallest turbo, width and depth it is the same as a dollar bill.
@scalyraptor7173
@scalyraptor7173 8 лет назад
Waylon Richardson where can I see it
@BigMuddyCountry
@BigMuddyCountry 8 лет назад
Scaly Raptor It is under the seat.
@mildredheffmyer9118
@mildredheffmyer9118 10 лет назад
Coolest mini-bike ever. I wish I had one.
@Joeyroberts629
@Joeyroberts629 10 лет назад
Rolls more than a dmax lol jk
@TheProrage509
@TheProrage509 6 лет назад
Joey Roberts hey rolling is optional and an expensive upgrade but it can be done for free on a cold start
@appallokelley3207
@appallokelley3207 4 года назад
His voice with the vibrations. 😂😂😂😂
@EricFB
@EricFB 8 лет назад
Love it, too bad these things arent street legal.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 13 лет назад
Update.. I made a few changes recently and have some improved numbers to show for it! Top speed is limited only by my gear ratio thus far, I went to a 20 tooth front sprocket, and 72 tooth rear and top speed is now 39.3 mph at full throttle uphill or down, it doesn't matter. Also with a little bit more load on the engine I saw 12 psi on the boost gauge! The numbers are headed in the right direction but there is still room for improvement so stay tuned!
@copper4663
@copper4663 8 лет назад
Smokes worse then my 2 stroke
@JoeZelensky
@JoeZelensky 10 лет назад
Looks like a perfect alternative to those bikes you dont have to register. I love me some diesel. And if I lived in a city I would def have you build one for me.
@ForsakenWolf
@ForsakenWolf 12 лет назад
Hahaha, there's somwthing that makes me laugh with this mini ad then there's nostalgia from it taking off. Love it.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
I agree, I have seen 10 psi but that's about all I can muster from that little turbo. The wastegate is connected too, but on a bench test the actuator doesn't budge until about 15 psi.
@05clenharth
@05clenharth 13 лет назад
By the white smoke and because you have turbocharged it you need to advance the injection pump, do this by taking the pump of the block and removing the smalist shim reasemble and the smoke should be a darker grey, if needs be you may need to take out a couple, this will give you alot more power as well
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
If you forget to push the compression release lever, forget it. You will literally lift the whole thing off the ground with the pull cord before you'll turn the engine over.
@rednecklife-uu3je
@rednecklife-uu3je 11 лет назад
That is true, if you can keep the exhaust flowing strong the turbo will have no problems spooling.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Good question, I believe there are several places to order them from and I think I actually bought mine from an ebay seller that had a bunch of them. I remember I had a hard time finding a "tapped" shaft model versus the "tapered" shaft design so that I could mount the torq-a-verter.
@MeTaLliCody1
@MeTaLliCody1 10 лет назад
That has to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen I want one and it dumps pretty good to!
@williebox3646
@williebox3646 11 лет назад
It is good to see a young man experimenting and learning. Keep it up!!!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
Ebay sells the engine and turbocharger, the frame has been in the family for a LONG time.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
In theory pretty much any engine can be turbocharged it's just a matter of trying to match the appropriate size turbocharger to the engines airflow and horsepower. The Diesel worked pretty well because it flows a lot of air for its size due to the fact that it has high compression, and it has an internal oil pump which is also very important.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
@99cumminskid Thanks for the comment! And no technically this is not street legal in Colorado because it's over 50 cc's and has no nights/mirrors/etc. I did however pass a motorcycle cop a while back, in front of an elementary school no less who just stared me down, and didn't follow me. So hopefully if I ever do get pulled over, they'll just tell me to take it home..
@jasperdomacena6491
@jasperdomacena6491 3 года назад
the low end power must be phenomenal on this mini bike
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 3 года назад
Thank you for the comment Jasper. It sure is, in fact it is very easy to lift the front wheel as you roll on the throttle.
@masonfrye679
@masonfrye679 3 года назад
This is the most badass American thing in the world
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 3 года назад
Thanks Dane!
@darthcual
@darthcual 11 лет назад
One of the coolest Mini's I've seen yet. Nice job
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Yes, yes, and yes. It does electric start I just haven't found a place to mount the battery. I do electric start it sometimes with a jumper box, but it starts so easy with the pull starter that electric starting isn't too necessary.
@Jonnyca21
@Jonnyca21 11 лет назад
Way cool mod to that mini bike, love the ingenuity!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
I'm thinking a 453T Detroit would be great!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
You're exactly right! While I definitely do not consider myself an environmentalist, it is nice knowing that, like the Hummer H1 which was powered by a Diesel engine, I am polluting a lot less these days compared with my Gasoline burning counterparts like the Hummer H2, H3 or your average Gasoline lawn mower. It's nice that my NOx, HC, and CO emissions are a fraction of what they would be in a Gas engine, as are the toxic chemicals like Benezene and Formaldehyde that are being emitted.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Thanks! The turbo is big for this engine and laggy but definitely gives it more power when it starts to spool.
@georgeutterpower
@georgeutterpower 12 лет назад
This is a like! Very impressive, that seven pounds boost should come in mighty handy on a generator in Colorado at 7000 feet or higher.. You did most of the work proving this turbo was a decent match! While other young guys are doing much of nothing, you are developing some impressive fab skills.. looks great!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
You're correct and I too was concerned with that, but these small Diesels run at almost the same rpm's as a comparable gasoline engine. There isn't as great a difference in rpm as bigger engines.
@88tcoupe
@88tcoupe 12 лет назад
Now it just needs a stack and the pump turned up lol. Seriously though that's pretty cool. Good job
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Thanks for the nice comment! I do appreciate it.
@MuzzaHukka
@MuzzaHukka 11 лет назад
Diesel vehicles aren't even inspected in most states. Means you don't even need lighting or a speedo on that thing. Try registering it in another state, then registering it in your own. Only problem might be seat height but oh well, you can add a few feet :)
@nuil501
@nuil501 9 лет назад
Hi turbosuperiority, may be you dont know, but there were some diesel bikes made during the fifties. I remeber Gall, and Lohman. They were sold as auxiliary engines to clip on bikes. Under names like "Lohmann hilfsmotor" or even Lohmann diesel, there are here on ytb some interesting videos about. They were delicate jewels. Thanks for posting.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 9 лет назад
Thank you for the nice comment! I have not heard of those engines but I will look them up. About the only Diesel motorcycle that I was aware of was the Royal Enfield Diesel.
@sharronclark7485
@sharronclark7485 3 года назад
I love! I like the smell of diesel smoke.As a bonus you will still have transportation if we suffer an EMP attack!😲🤔🙂
@hiyadroogs
@hiyadroogs 12 лет назад
When a diesel pumps black smoke it can burn the piston very quickly. It's very easy to wind back the amount of fuel injected, There is a horizontal screw under the engine speed controls with a security wire attached. Wind this screw in until it very lightly touches the sprung plunger for the governor control. The engine will now be virtually smokeless even under full load. If power dips too much, just wind the screw out one eighth of a turn then road test. Factory settings are too rich on these.
@flyinsossers
@flyinsossers 10 лет назад
lol, too cool ! first mini bike i have ever heard with turbo whistle. nice build
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
I fabbed the intake and downpipe using an old four cylinder motorcycle header for the piping and bends and had a metal shop plasma cut my flanges for me.
@Turftechutah
@Turftechutah 12 лет назад
That is awesome, and I bet the neighbors all love it too!
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
It is definitely unburnt fuel and supposedly you can re-shim the injection pump to turn the fuel down a bit, I just haven't messed with it.
@hvguy
@hvguy 6 лет назад
I did the same thing, except no turbo and a shitty tav30 clutch that eats belts. Ended up removing a spring from the clutch driver to engage early.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 6 лет назад
Hvguy that's a good idea. I think it's about time for a new belt for me too, but this setup has lasted a long time now.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
You better believe there is! They are called Detroit Diesel engines and are only about the second most amazing mechanical invention in history (behind turbochargers)! See the link in my description and start at 2:10.
@Twizt3dArc
@Twizt3dArc 11 лет назад
That's awesome! Such a cute lil turbo too
@rosicroix777
@rosicroix777 6 лет назад
Getting basicly 40 mph out of it before you've really sorted it for all its speed is pretty damn good , I'm making a rough guess but how many MPG do you get ? 120 ? regardless it'll get great mileage & you can even make your own biodiesel . Great job & wishing you many years of safe & fun riding
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 6 лет назад
Percy Barbarossa Thank you for the comment. It does get great mileage but I've never actually calculated it. These little Diesel engines are so economical despite having great torque.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
Yes! It's pretty strong after riding it for even a short time.
@Snarky79
@Snarky79 11 лет назад
Gotta take the old fedora off for you m'boy! Nice proportioning,balance and selecting stuff that gibes nicely. Good for you!!
@troutbassncat3025
@troutbassncat3025 Год назад
Now you'll need to start the, "The Grand National Overpowered Mini Bike Shoot Out", to see how it really compares.
@Turboking84
@Turboking84 13 лет назад
Ryan I am impressed my friend!!!! Put some lights and a tag on it and save some fuel on your commute to driving your DC-10! LOL
@RovingARock
@RovingARock 10 лет назад
Dang, that's runs very smoothly! Well done.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 10 лет назад
Thanks!
@E9Project
@E9Project 11 лет назад
dear god... i have a mini bike build on that exact frame... had a 5hp brigs on it and a screw came loose on the carb and locked the throttle wide open on me one day >.< i ended up running out of road headed straight at a telephone poll and decided to roll through some thorns and gravel rather than smash my skull on a phone poll at about 30-35 mph XD.
@9102jack
@9102jack 11 лет назад
not if you use the original governor throttle control [I believe most have a red rubber cap on them] and find a way to limit its reverse movement while still allowing it to go all the way back to kill it. If you had a throttle stop on the injector pump shaft coming out near the base of the block it injects the same amount of fuel all the time and cant compensate for minor changes in operating conditions, so it either over speeds or stalls.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 11 лет назад
Thanks! It's a blast to ride and gets a lot of looks.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
The brand is called Kapa. There are probably other brands of the same engine though.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
Gathered all the parts before the build and spent a few weeks assembling it a little bit at a time.
@tinkerrbill
@tinkerrbill 11 лет назад
Make sure you are not over-reving that engine. You may need to put heavier weights in that CVT front pulley so it will kick in a little quicker. Stock it's tuned for a gas engine so by the time that diesel activates the CVT, your already half way through your torque curve! Evidence the blue smoke going down the road. Black smoke OK, blue is not! I had a friend who did same thing and his motor didn't last. Just sayin, gotta keep those rpms lower for diesel.
@TurboSuperiority
@TurboSuperiority 12 лет назад
No it has brakes now haha I was just trying to locate the right brake that fit that hub when I made the video. And the kickstand is on the list too.
@SamRFixes
@SamRFixes 10 лет назад
That is the coolest thing I have ever seen!!!
@o0julek0o
@o0julek0o 11 лет назад
That tank, full, will probably last you a lifetime xD
@Davidiscrazy100
@Davidiscrazy100 11 лет назад
Thanks for the quick response! Also looks like that's the rout I will have to go for my project. Thanks Again!
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