Anyone that is saying things about that this video is taking about how the Polaris is better than the skidoo isnt getting the point he is just making his opinion on which sled is better for different riders, if any of you have figured it out no manufacturer makes a perfect sled it's hard to make a sled that everyone will love thus making it pretty much impossible to make a review because everyone has a different opinion.
Finallly someone understands here, i ride with people who have ski doo and artic cat and my self has a polaris and its just whats more comfortable and what u like more not which one is the best and which one sucks
Как же мне это знакомо! Очень круто!! Правда устаёшь, опасно и адреналин... Нет, ощущение, не то скольжения, не то полёта. Просто кайф! Спасибо за видео, мнение, очень приятно!
again I was sucked into watching thinking I might appreciate a review, but was left wanting more information. nothing is said of chosen ski stance, limiter strap settings, torsion bars? T-motion lockout? If the rider is familiar with the chassis enough to say your riding it correctly (foot position) etc etc, again...sledding is so dependant on sled setup, if you dont have it adjusted to work for you and your riding style then a comparison is meaningless
I have a G4 doo, and will agree that it's more prone to washout. I've ridden polarises a couple times and am blown away at their ability to hold an edge and their predictability. It was more difficult to hold that edge, IMHO. But that could've been because I'm not used to the platform. They're both amazing sleds.
Kinda odd seems opposite of what I have heard/experienced about the two sleds. Granted I've never riden a 19 axys with the new front end I felt like the Polaris wouldn't handle at all until the skis are picked up a little trasnfering weight back. While my 19 skidoo handles awesome no mater the throttle input. Guess that's why both brands are so successful lot of rider preference
I've rode the Patriot 850 a few times for a buddy that's new to mountain riding, and i have to say, its pretty undeniable how much better it is on a sidehill or in steep technical terrain, first time I rode it was through some crazy tight trees on a steep face and was really impressed how easy/well it handled with what felt like quite a bit less effort than my sled (18 summit), it made me feel much more confident holding a line. Still love my sled no doubt and maybe these new spindles and ski rubbers they have for the 2020 Expert will help the front end handling.
Good comment Connor. I do think skid setup and terrain has a lot to do with your preference. I've always felt the Ski-Doo is more "fun" in open meadows and doing certain maneuvers like downhill powder turns. I also feel differently about the handling of both sleds in non-turbo form. You'd be surprised just how quickly that Doo does transfer to the ski with the bottom end of that NA 850/clutching package
Ive rode an 800 axys and 850 doo and i myself has a pro chasis 600 and i can ride a pro chasis 600 better than a 850 but at thag it comes down to rider and not all the sled setup to me anyway
I agree, it really matters as to rider preference. I ride an Axys 850, all of friends in Colorado are on the Ski Doo. Each one of us prefers their own sled, but everyone rides well. They find my sled too "tippy" in their words, while I find I have to work really hard to hold the sled over on theirs.
I enjoyed your review Jeff! I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the alpha? I have one and like it but there is plenty of room for improvement. I've tried all brands and think they are all very capable. However I made my decision based on the dead reliability and strength that cat has proven. Even the new alpha suspension I think has proven to hold up as good or better then the old twin rail, all while significantly improving handling and ease of ride ability. What is your thoughts if you've tried one?
As a less experienced rider I had a lot easier time on the Summit compared to the Polaris. That being said the more aggressive I ride the more I notice the washout even with a Racers edge skid. Really curious on the new front end and how it will hold a Sidehill. Doo claims it’s the front end not the back??
Good comment Boyd. Having played with both the front and back extensively. I feel strongly the "washout" is due to a multitude of factors. First and most formidably, rider position is very big on the Doo chassis. The Polaris has a much bigger sweet spot with respect to this. Second, technologically, yes - the front end does contribute. As I alluded to, I believe its ski design (too aggressive of a keel, too narrow), weight distribution (too front heavy) and then yes, the design of the skid - especially when the limiter is pulled in as many do for more technical riding. This puts the track at an angle of attack that wants to walk the sled back up the hill. Finally, the wider chassis all together, most notably the way the running board creates an auger is a big part of the problem. I'm sure the new sled will be better, but until they address all of these things, it'll take second shoe in the steep and gnarly to Polaris.
Both sleds were excellent. The Ski-Doo ate some reed petals. The Polaris ate a few extra belts. All part of it. Overall both have been awesome in the reliability department
Old Wisdom first of all it’s “you’re” ;) Second, why would you replace pistons if your top end is still within spec as far as compression and leak down numbers are within 5% of brand new 🤔🤔🤔
Motor will live a long time with proper tunning. I have a few turboed 800 Arctic cats running boost it xic boxes and never lost a motor or even Scuffed a piston. Collectively probably six thousand miles of riding on the three sleds. Obviously not Apples to Apples comparison here but these newer sleds have some really tough engines.
Wow, so many butthurt Ski doo owners lol...this is his review and what HE feels about the sleds, like come on. After reading the comments its like seeing something from the primary school lol.
The polaris is 5 kg heavier at the nose tho and stock it has less power in the whole power band. The red is the skidoo The purple is the the weight at the front. And the ski doo is perfectly weight between the skiis in the front imgur.com/a/dVuZ4Q1
Ive ridden alot with a sidewinder with a 250 kit an a big rider they are great but to me it feels very heavy and i wouldnt recomend for technical riding. If your strong you can pull off crazy steep lines at fast speeds. Ive seen a stock 174 800 Polaris climb about the same as a 162 sidewinder on a 250 kit with the same Rider but the sidewinder was faster. I wouldn't recommend unless you are a large person.
Yeah, the ones I've ridden are amazing in a straight line but have absolutely no agility. Four stroke motors just aren't usable in a technical mountain application. I expect to see an electric sled before I see a viable four stroke mountain sled. (that was semi joking)
@@carterhuston5519 dude have u looked under the hood of a polaris before, the gas and engine are dirtectly center of the whole sled and so the weight will be 50/50 from that there isnt much to the back or front area of a polaris, then from that the front is able to get up and out and the track wont dig down
Ha. This is an ideological statement no? I gave objective reasons why I prefer one over the other. My riding backs it up. I also acknolwedge if you are the type of rider to want to be more point and shoot (or chute ;) ) the ski-doo may be better. It certainly is an easier sled to ride in the meadows, and a *great* sled for novice/intermediate riders. However, there is little doubt in gnarly, steep, technical terrain the Axys chassis is a much better machine. It gets up on the snow faster, is lighter, and is *far* more balanced with respect to static weight distribution (with/without a rider) Go ahead and line out the reasons you believe the Ski-Doo to be a better technical mountain sled. All I can think of is it has a better motor. In every other category the victor will be the Axys. I owned both. Now own one. That ought to tell you which I was more consistent with, less fatigued by and overall had more fun with.
@@griffoutdoortv5882 yet again, you've said nothing objective. Why do you believe I'm biased? Because I tested both, told you I liked one better than the other after spending ~1000 miles on each? Bias would suggest I have a cognitive skewing toward one or the other, which would suggest I have a *reason* to skew one way or the other. DO you see that? My only incentive is to be the best rider I can be. What you've "heard" carries zero water. Have you ridden both sleds over a thousand miles? Made smart modifications to get either sled to do what you are looking for it to do? Spent an entire winter refining your riding ability to work with a sled, getting the sled setup just to your liking? I put this review up because I'm in a unique position where I've had a pretty limitless budget with both sleds. Pushed both of them hard in the exact same terrain. Living among the Tetons, there is no shortage of technical riding. I also went back and forth. One to the other. This was huge in showing me what I was noticing, was it the sled, the snow, or how many beers I had the night before? I'm a professional product tester in a different sport. I take this seriously, and back my findings up objectively. I never said the Doo was a bad sled, in the end, the better rider will always win. I know this too first hand. But yeah, there is no question what sled is best in steep, technical terrain. It really isn't close.
@@griffoutdoortv5882 Huh? You asked the question, you posted here. Asking me to "get over it" is like provoking a fight, getting punched in the nose then going "hey man get over it!" Lol
The doo is a better built machine with more technology and always leading the pack with innovation and polaris tried to copy and failed even the alpha cat is a better sled and like the doo can go more places without breaking. And ps any doo owners just buy a munster motion locker and make it more rigid if that's what u like munster makes the best products hands down just like doo
Why is it that everyone who loves the polaris is a ski doo hater, and vice versa? They are both awesome sleds. I’m saying this as someone with 2 ski-doo trail sleds in the garage. I’m not a mountain rider, but if I was, I’d be going Polaris or Arctic Cat Alpha One.
Ha. I did mention both sleds are great, but for the kind of riding I do, the Axys is absolutely a better sled. What is the point of a review if I'm not critical or don't pick a winner?
@@snoogboonin it is funny. It becomes religion to an extent. I never have understood that. Nobody is paying you to ride XZY brand. I'm not loyal to a brand of anything...why would you do that? I even chose to not take sponsors (in a different sport) so I can run whatever the hell I want. Its fun! If Ski-Doo came out with a sled that pushed the motor forward, balanced the sled and narrowed the entire bodywork, I'd be 100% into it. I'd switch back! Oh, and its probably not surprising my dayjob is one where I'm an analyst... ;)
