TURBOFURNACE: IDOL OF MOTOR

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TURBOFURNACE fires again for the first time since 2018. All it took was buying a machine shop and two-and-a-half hard years of relentless, painful obsession.
Next steps: cut the umbilical cord to shore power and take it on tour; make it into a trike and drive it around.
Hail MOTOR.
Notes:
- We are injecting garden hose water into the top of the burn chamber with a 120 degree, 1/4" NPT misting nozzle.
- Despite the water injection, turbine inlet temperatures are still excessive.
- Yes, I'm wearing socks and loafers. I didn't expect it to work, and sadly didn't dress for the occasion.
- Yes, it's mild steel, not stainless. It's a prototype, deal with it.
- Safety third?

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14 июн 2021

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@electricboyo 2 года назад

Lovely work with the sheet metal and tools to fabricate the new cone-shaped centrifugal filter!

@survantjames 2 года назад

Thanks! We built that slip roller from scratch just for this project…

@Soshstar999 2 года назад

The most fun hands down you ever had playing with a wood stove

@victoryfirst2878 2 года назад

This is just a one of a kind type of turbo for sure. Look forward to see more great content. Nice work guys, pat yourselves on the back for sure. Peace

@survantjames 2 года назад

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

@Bojangles1987 2 года назад

Man I wish u guys lived closer I’d gladly let you guys use my shop I got just about any metal fab tool ya could want to use .

@CharlieSolis 2 года назад

Very nice work! Love what you guys are doing! “BOOST!!” 😂

@survantjames 2 года назад

That was a heck of a proud moment for us :)

@geekswithfeet9137 2 года назад

The same mistake everyone makes, don’t try to throttle it by a pre-intake throttle body, all you are doing is creating a huge vacuum which will suck oil through the seals. Instead use an external waste gate to throttle by providing bypass air, you will keep temps down, lean it out and actually have something that’s self responsive and provides a natural negative feedback

@brucebaxter6923 2 года назад

Or restrict the exhaust.

@ttv8ra23 2 года назад

Great theory. Could you vent it between the compressor side of the turbo and the combustion chamber? Would that be effective? Would just be a lot easier to setup than a wastegate between the chamber and turbo. I suppose a wastegate could be used then a compressed air source and a regulator to control how much pressure the wastegate sees to get it to open when you want. Mmmmm so many ideas. I’m trying to do as much research as I can as I intend to build one very similar with a larger turbo and heavier wall furnace and cyclone. I have a heat exchanger to cool the the lubricating oil. I want one that I can start up and run a couple of times a month when having beers with friends. A novelty thing that is somewhat reliable.

@brucebaxter6923 2 года назад

@@ttv8ra23 Waste gate keeps feeding air into the fire. Blowoff valve venting keeps the speed down but the exhaust temps go up. Blowoff valve dumping in before the exhaust wheel both slows the speed, limits the pressure and cools the exhaust. Main problem is solids into the exhaust wheel.

@ttv8ra23 2 года назад

@@brucebaxter6923 thanks for the reply. I’m pretty set on a wastegate between the combustion chamber/cyclone and the turbo. Will definitely run a cyclone like these guys. Will keep it alive for a lot longer. I’ll build it all a bit heavier though. 6mm wall thickness atleast.

@ethanlindsey 2 года назад

@@ttv8ra23 I think your going to need a massive waste gate. Check the channel Bobby Mcboost, he has a few videos building something similar, he basically had a T3 flange sized waste gate and it wasn't big enough to throttle the massive turbo he was using.

@everettw 3 года назад

HAIL

@chasbader 2 года назад

Man o man, this is so awesome! So much to comment on. I did not realize that you guys have been working on this for so long. You are doing things that none of the other channels are and they are highlighted in this video. Love the behind the scenes progression of your development and the energy of the team. Keep going! There is definitely a future to what you are doing. Get some patents rolling for your designs. Can I send you a pm to discuss some ideas in private? I've been playing with small scale clean wood combustion ever since I saw the NT6 8 years ago. I actually flew to Portland to pick up some crucibles (I live in AK) to play with metal casting. Sam Johnson boatbuilder... saw him at the wooden boat show about 18 years ago- he was casting bronze.

@survantjames 2 года назад

Thanks for your comment! Yeah send us a message!

@chasbader 2 года назад

@@survantjames is the yes@ email address still valid? You should see a couple from me. Thanks!

@albeenog2432 2 года назад

Been struggling with this- How can these guys be so science and physics smart and be nearly illiterate?? So i finally broke it down to comparison of book smarts vs street smarts- something i can relate to! I would pick street smarts (science and physics in your case) every time. Keep it up gentlemen- good stuff!

@survantjames 2 года назад

Illiterate? Strong claims require strong evidence.

@albeenog2432 2 года назад

@@survantjames Well- maybe illiterate not entirely accurate. However- u guys were def out sittin underneath the bleachers by the track on the day they covered spelling in school doing things not in the curriculum i'm guessing . Survant and Idol most recently,- couple others . But i guess u could claim intentional and slide by?

@survantjames 2 года назад

@@albeenog2432 Survant is a proper noun, idol is a word. You’re talking to hyper-literate multi-lingual philosopher-kings. Check your assumptions before you throw any more shade. Good day!

@albeenog2432 2 года назад

@@survantjames No shade at all intended- like i said -good stuff! Please forgive me your harness

@Gavitron 3 года назад

this is amazing work! I love the muted chirp when you reduced throttle, but I guess that means the next upgrade will be a blow-off valve?

@survantjames 3 года назад

Thanks! Because our throttle body is in front of our turbo, we can control the boost pressure with that, so we don't plan on adding blow off valve at this time. Next steps are getting it so we don't need garden hose or electricity to start or run it.

@Gavitron 3 года назад

@@survantjames sweet! do you plan on keeping a battery onboard for pumps, or going mechanical?

@bvanderveen 3 года назад

@@Gavitron We are a long way from being able to get torque off this thing, the plan is batteries for the forseeable future. And if we had it making torque the first thing we'd do is convert it into electrical energy anyway ;)

@WikWak 2 года назад

@@survantjames run a bypass from the boost to the hot side. Itl keep the turbine cool and bleed some of that boost off

@steveyaksich2203 2 года назад

Still subscribed let's see what you guys got

@droptheblades895 3 года назад

Been watching for a few months now and love the projects. would i be dumb to suggest you pre heat the water, and befor you say "then it won't have a cooling affect"(so the turbo doseint melt/damaged) if you heated the water by the system like raping a copper pipe around the chamber/or filter you use the other-wise wasted heet and make it easier to tern into steam, so its more efishint when running.

@bvanderveen 3 года назад

I think you have a pretty good idea! I had considered actually making a full water jacket but was worried the cooling might be too much, but seeing how much excess heat we have, I'm reconsidering it. Thanks for the suggestion!

@ttv8ra23 2 года назад

Just found this video. It’s answered a lot of my questions that I put on your other video thank you. Still one though. What are you controlling with the 1/2 valve in your left hand? Are you feeding water into the combustion chamber to create steam? Adding to the energy created and cooling at the same time?

@ttv8ra23 2 года назад

Haha just finished watching the video and it explained it. Thank you so much. So good to see it done properly. I have a LARGE truck turbo that I intend turning into one similar to this in the next few weeks

@hinz1 2 года назад

Nice, even with cyclone seperator. Great design. How much trust?

@survantjames 2 года назад

Thanks! Sadly, we don't have an accurate idea of the thrust. Maybe 10lbs if I had to guess (4-5kg).

@hackbyte 2 года назад

Maybe, you need a afterburner stage? for short; seeing flames outside the main combustion chamber is always a sign of lost energy ... it might look pretty, but it will just puff out into open air... So .. from the fire box/container on .. maybe consider to feed the hot air for some inces along .. then mix air from a tiny fraction from the compressed air side in and maybe using a spark plug make sure that all the gasses with the tiny part of fresh air gets combusted too .. further expanding your exhaust gasses.... Then let them flow along and back into the turbo.... Which will now get cleaner and depending on the way from the fire box, even cooler air to work with..... Just an idea..... hf ;)

@survantjames 2 года назад

Correct you are. The exhaust gasses are definitely rich. A lot of possible mitigations have been discussed.

@chasbader 2 года назад

The problem with wood (or coal) is that combustion is a 2 stage process. Early there is pyrolization of the wood to various hydrocarbons which create the smoke which you see. After all the hydrocarbons are gone you are left with almost pure carbon (coke/charcoal)... The smoke from this will be clear regardless of combustion efficiency. This is why the smoke clears up near the end. The way around this can be found in the Solo stove or the smaller Huhu which I recently purchased for $21 and absolutely love. Preheated excess secondary combustion air is the solution. Gotta design the combustion chamber to effect this. Also, 2 air control valves- one for primary and one for secondary would nail it for sure.

@jamaicajohnson4510 2 года назад

this was awesome

@survantjames 2 года назад

Thanks!

@saltycanadian6190 2 года назад

You guys forget heat rises? Flip the coold and hot pipe design and it’ll work way better.

@matiassobron3643 3 года назад

Exelente.

@jaymondy 2 года назад

the *Tripple 90's coming off the supply is killing all of your boost.. need a straight section coming off.

@survantjames 2 года назад

It’s the fact that we are running the throttle body valve at 10% open that’s limiting the boost. This is to limit the EGTs to a sane level. A future model will have other means of limiting EGTs and allowing higher pressures.

@ttv8ra23 2 года назад

@@survantjames ah limiting egts with the throttle is a great idea. Could the same thing be achieved with a throttle body T’d into the charge pipe. Venting the air between the turbo and combustion chamber?? Or would a large wastegate be a better idea? Which method would be best for controlling EGTs do you think? Cheers

@PhantasmPhoton 2 года назад

why tho?

@steveyaksich2203 2 года назад

Right to heat up there giant flashlight real fab monkeys 🐒 get the money and the lady's, and as you say for a POINT! 🤣

@marcohorde1 3 года назад

Can it , produces some thrust ?

@survantjames 3 года назад

We will find out in the next episode! We are pretty sure it will make at least some. Check out our video “Days 4 & 5” for why we think this. ;)

@marcohorde1 3 года назад

@@survantjames Thanks for the attention friend! I will be waiting for the new espisodeos , I was thinking of building one , burning wasted oil

@survantjames 3 года назад

@@marcohorde1 Go for it, it’s a lot of fun! I hope to modify this one for waste oil some day too.

@colin351 2 года назад

Breh are you some kinda antifo

@inventor9345 2 года назад

Газогенератор сильно перегревается, нужен другой подход к решению этой проблемы!

@survantjames 2 года назад

мы хотим увеличить поток воды)

@martinsanchez4374 2 года назад

Yeah don't think turbos like charcoal flowing through them..

@survantjames 2 года назад

Confirmed! We have the blown-up turbine wheels to prove it.

@chasbader 2 года назад

Hence the evolution of their designs- surpassing all others!

@johnholmes4960 2 года назад

Ok, so, what are you guys trying to accomplish here? Why do you feel you needed the cyclone? You need steam power to make this really have some power. Then hook up a generator. This is a good idea. Now, be aware of your worst nightmare.......FEMALE ENGINEERS. They think different than men do. Men miss the obvious, where women take advantage of it. A group of female engineers will build a better one, faster. I am a retired machine shop owner that had female machinests . They did a better job than the men. Eventually I had two guys, and five women in the shop. So, look out.....🤠