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The hot parts of an Orenda 14 turbojet engine for a Sabre jet fighter from the Korean war era. Inspecting the turbine inlet guide vanes for heat damage, including acceptance standards for cracks.

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5 сен 2024

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Комментарии : 106   
@stokesseegers5012
@stokesseegers5012 4 года назад
I love these videos, its literally useless knowledge for me, but I just need to know.
@leeharris3061
@leeharris3061 4 года назад
Yes for me too..i cant even figure out a fricken lawnmower...🤣🤣🤣
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 года назад
Knowledge is a very light burden.
@n6mz
@n6mz 4 года назад
"I know that's not exciting." Wait ... watching an expert ... seeing an actual rebuild manual ... close-ups of real components from a classic engine. You're right it's not exciting it's FASCINATING! THANK YOU!
@AlChemicalLife
@AlChemicalLife 2 года назад
The funny thing Is, even from department to department here at Pratt, they call the turbine stator something different. I call them" the turbine stator " engineering calls them "the turbine guide vane " management will just call them " vanes " inspectors call them by their part number. It gets confusing super quickly
@jamesmason2228
@jamesmason2228 4 года назад
Another highly efficient and best-in-class video from our favorite resident of Jet City!
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@jetranger47
@jetranger47 4 года назад
The "recoup tube" is a very important item and is listed on a maintenance bill as a bonus for mechanics...
@cck0728
@cck0728 4 года назад
Thanks for your kind comment. What is this recoup tube. I have seen it's on CF6 80C2 engine.
@REDMAN298
@REDMAN298 9 месяцев назад
If memory serves me right Bob Hoover`s favorite airplane was the Sabre jet.
@jardiff5983
@jardiff5983 4 года назад
I was a crewman on a US Abrams tank back in my army days and the turbine engine had something called a recuperator. I have no idea what it does or where it is. I wasn’t a mechanic, I just rode them.
@listerdave1240
@listerdave1240 3 года назад
The recuperator is a heat exchanger that scavenges waste heat from the exhaust (after the power turbine) and puts that recovered heat back into the compressed intake air, that is the air going from the compressor to the combustor. Its purpose is to improve the fuel efficiency.
@sweepleader
@sweepleader 4 года назад
This is great stuff. Love the detail, very well done.
@abarratt8869
@abarratt8869 4 года назад
The F-86 Sabre really was one of the best planes ever, according to no less a pilot than Capt Eric "Winkle" Brown RN, and he really did know what he was talking about.
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
A truly great man. Nobody will ever beat his record. He flew the BV-141, which I built a model of as a teenager. Everybody thought I built it wrong, but they were wrong. Oh, to take one of those to Oshkosh!
@Sadik15B
@Sadik15B 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ is it possible to fill the crack with welding or brazing?
@GeofreySanders
@GeofreySanders 4 года назад
@@Sadik15B As the economist said to the bishop, if it were that easy, everyone would be doing it!
@grahamj9101
@grahamj9101 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ Agreed! I had the privilege of meeting him a couple of years before he died, when a gave a lecture at the Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton. He was introduced to the audience with the news that he'd just bought himself a new sports car. I am convinced that, as a small boy, I saw a BV-141 being test flown a couple of years after the war. It was a warm sunny summer's day and I heard an unusual engine noise above me. I looked up and saw this odd-shaped aeroplane, which I would now describe as asymmetric. Years later, looking through a book on German WWII aircraft, I came upon a photo of the plane that I had seen.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 года назад
@@grahamj9101 Wow, I had not read about that plane before. It looks like something Burt Rutan would design on a dare :-)
@stevefisher2553
@stevefisher2553 4 года назад
Incredible videos, thanks!
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 года назад
"Boeing is not cause for rejection", did a spit take with my coffee there :-) Ah, bowing... I wonder how many 1000s of hours of test running are behind those instructions. For every sentence in that manual someone has to have inspected a part, seen some damage and then ran it for another 400 hours without it causing a problem. For how many years had the engine been operational when that manual was last updated? Have you compared different manuals to find out what has changed over a few years of service? Some criteria tightened? Some criteria loosened?
@nzcym
@nzcym 2 года назад
Your videos are the best ways to attract potential customers - the best advertisements I have ever seen. BTW, is that possible welding the crack (under argon) before ceramic coating?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 2 года назад
No cracks are acceptable on turbine blades, so no repairs. On the turbine inlet stators, or guide vanes, also known as nozzles, there are allowances for cracks, but there is no acceptable repair scheme. The cracks get to the point where they exceed the allowable limit, making the part unusable, and then it is garbage.
@afterburner119
@afterburner119 4 года назад
NICE SHIRT!!!! Hope all is well Jay. At P&W, we worry about erosion more than anything, one thing modern turbofan engines cannot do without is rhodium (element) in its hot section ceramic coatings. It is very expensive so we have tried but the vanes erode, fast. Another thing that helps acceptance is if you have a LPT or not.
@eddean6663
@eddean6663 4 года назад
The CF6-6 and early Lm2500 used Stg1 and 2 turbine blades that were mated together to make a single blade. The shop in Evendale where I worked was called the bucket shop
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
We work with those blades all the time. They are in the older models of the engine, which are primarily the ones we service.
@tomuchfunwithgas846
@tomuchfunwithgas846 4 года назад
A truly wise man says "Gee I don't know that '.
@MotoEPhil
@MotoEPhil 4 года назад
I can google pictures of recoup tubes on a CF6. They look like they deliver bleed air somewhere perhaps for cooling(?)
@MotoEPhil
@MotoEPhil 4 года назад
Upon further poking around the HP and LP seal leakage air that has already been pressurized once is harvested and reintroduced as cooling air for maximum efficiency. That way you don't have to steal more bleed air if you already have a source of (relatively) cooler air that has already been compressed. Hence the name 'recoup'
@douro20
@douro20 4 года назад
I would had really liked to had seen the Iroquois developed into a production engine. It and the Avro Arrow interceptor for which it was designed were the first use of titanium as a major component in aerospace construction.
@float32
@float32 4 года назад
Laymen here. What causes the cracks on the nozzles? It looks like the crack has significant width, but I assume the material isn’t missing. Are the nozzles under extreme tension, or is the metal “bunched up” on either side from some metal grain change?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Every start, taxi, takeoff, cruise, landing, taxi, and shutdown comprises what is called a heat cycle. The nozzles experience temperatures ranging from ambient to 1400F or more, a sustained period of operation at around 1200F, and then a rapid cooldown from about 800F. Thermal expansion and contraction eventually causes metal under such conditions to crack.
@levicooney9534
@levicooney9534 4 года назад
I learned so much from that video. Thanks a lot Agent Jay!
@Toppradd
@Toppradd 4 года назад
It’s a good day ,today! Good to see ya agent zed...tnx
@ShuRugal
@ShuRugal 4 года назад
you should make up your own jargon. you could call the turbine a "dynamically self indexing gas expansion nozzle", or a DSIGEN for short.
@Not-C-418
@Not-C-418 4 года назад
Can you make a video about the ceramic coating process please
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 года назад
I would like to see that too if the company that does it allows access, which I suspect they don't.
@josephspratt2055
@josephspratt2055 4 года назад
If i had to guess, which I do because I don't know, I'd say the 'recoup tube' is a scavenger pump return line. Was that redundant?
@pasoundman
@pasoundman 4 года назад
Just curious, what's the connection between Jet City and S&S ?
@hommie789
@hommie789 4 года назад
Jay, since the books and manufacturing of these engines are 50 odd years old, do the manufacturer's ever update the old books and procedures? As time and technology progress do they ever find something in the books maybe unsafe by today's standards or maybe hazardous so a change needs to happen? Just wondering
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Things may be done differently on newer machines, but these engines have very detailed procedures to adhere to, so we do.
@paullewis6612
@paullewis6612 4 года назад
Hi Agent, How do you get dirty, crusty, rusty stator rings out of their housings to clean them?
@Nick.Koehler
@Nick.Koehler 4 года назад
Oh nice it is just car parts were they have 50 different names for the same thing.
@Miata822
@Miata822 4 года назад
I find these videos fascinating. Patreon videos even more so.
@arteeFartee-e9
@arteeFartee-e9 4 года назад
Apologies if this has been asked in ANY prior video comment section, Do you ever have to x-ray parts to judge hidden/metallurgical robustness in a donated part? Or can be done using available external inspection or testing with shop tools (say like judging hardness of a heat-treated part, things like that).
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
The inspection methods are given in the overhaul manual. Sometimes two alternate methods are list. Follow the instruction. No time for creativity.
@mixerm93
@mixerm93 4 года назад
22:40 I think "bowing" is shown on the diagram (2nd vane from left), but I might be wrong
@john90430
@john90430 4 года назад
"What's a nozzle?" That's what she said...
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 4 года назад
Great video! Thanks. Now I'm wondering how the micro brazing is done.
@slowhornet4802
@slowhornet4802 4 года назад
@16:33 I think the next update is planned for 2060.
@vrendus522
@vrendus522 4 года назад
Wow' look as if you've been busy and are having a good time of it.
@Jetpilotsim
@Jetpilotsim 4 года назад
Yo JZ! Are you able to do a quick video discussing the Boeing 737 CFM engines with the sticky 5th stage valves?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
In the works right now.
@Jetpilotsim
@Jetpilotsim 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ Looking forward to it! Blancolirio introduced me to your site. Very interesting stuff! I am a recreational flight instructor at uFly Simulator in Mississauga. Sometimes the news stations call us to explain and demonstrate in the simulator what happened and why. Tough couple of years for the 737.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 4 года назад
Thanks you....Very much...!
@johbros
@johbros 4 года назад
Working on French built helicopters seeing weird names for things is not even surprising anymore. They can't even call a bolt a bolt.
@bkoczur
@bkoczur 4 года назад
I noticed the small bottles of tire sealant on the shelf. Some aircraft have self sealing tanks. Are there any applications for self sealing /healing features inside a gas turbine engine? I know you've mentioned an edge seal to prevent gas escape that actually wears into place, carbon of some sort I think.
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Those are bottles of tire sealant for my mountain bike. There are no self-healing features inside turbine engines. Not the ones I've worked on anyway. The turbine tip seals sometimes come into slight contact with shrouds that are built up of an abradable material, allowing the tips of the turbine blades to "wear in" their own pathway, and this makes a fairly good seal against gases leaking around the tip. Design features like this are being incorporated more and more into modern engines, in an effort to increase overall efficiency.
@jw4620
@jw4620 4 года назад
But in other news, how do you like the large red asphalt assault machine in the background? Looks like a fine commute vehicle!
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
CTX 1300 is an intercity comfort missile. I employ it as a long distance tourer. I does a pretty good job, but no cruise control. Massive torque though!
@DrunkHog
@DrunkHog 4 года назад
Do you also weigh all those parts when putting them together to make sure the ensamble is balanced down to the microgram, or are they already so?! OR, since they do not spin anyway, it doesn't really matter?
@stokesseegers5012
@stokesseegers5012 4 года назад
I need to know the answer to this question now lol
@mixerm93
@mixerm93 4 года назад
Jay made a video about this subject some time ago. Just need to find it
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Static parts don't move, so they don't need to be balanced, so they don't need to be weighed.
@DrunkHog
@DrunkHog 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ Thanks. I DO remember a video about rotor blades being numbered, on the other hand.
@greghelms4458
@greghelms4458 4 года назад
Sweet.
@ashwanibhardwaj8723
@ashwanibhardwaj8723 4 года назад
Hello, I am from India, which metal is suitable for making small jet engines?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
All the parts are made from whatever metal alloy is best suited for the purpose. Many different metals are used,
@patrickcharette2151
@patrickcharette2151 4 года назад
How many hours on average does it take to fully service an engine that large, or is it something which varies too much to say based on what’s needed service-wise, and which engine it is?
@user-qi7do1fj9u
@user-qi7do1fj9u 4 года назад
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@lewistempleman9752
@lewistempleman9752 4 года назад
What's that?
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 4 года назад
Have you guys looked in to high power laser corrosion removal tools?
@RTSproductions1
@RTSproductions1 4 года назад
Hey agent JZ do you know where I can get MS J1 flareless fittings, the ferrules are very unusual with flare on both ends....hope you are familiar
@hoakycongnghe6661
@hoakycongnghe6661 4 года назад
Good luck
@briancox2721
@briancox2721 4 года назад
Does that manual have any repair procedures beyond just grinding away material? For example, weld repair of cracks?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
I believe I read the entire section, did I not? Other parts have their own repair schemes, some including welding, but not these.
@sushantkumarthakur8966
@sushantkumarthakur8966 4 года назад
Can you please explain me about the requirement of Bleed Valves in axial flow Compressors to avoid rotating stall? Probably, it's an old design. If possible, you can suggest me some literature to refer, online! Have been trying to find it out for last few months but couldn't get proper literature!
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
It will only take a couple of seconds to use the search bar on my channel page to search for compressor stall.
@nyanuar123
@nyanuar123 4 года назад
After making a turbine eingine play a tune. He takes apart 737 eingine
@amarasrinuchalla5385
@amarasrinuchalla5385 4 года назад
Sir i like your videos. U make videos of the old engines. I am an AME student. Can u suggest me a RU-vid channel who makes videos on the modern engines.
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
You are completely missing the point...
@SuperStevegrant
@SuperStevegrant 4 года назад
These are the engines he works on. This channel is his business and what he does for a living. Do you not understand this?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
What I really meant was, the basic principles of how jet engines work has not changed since the very first ones. Any actual specific procedure needed for any specific engine will be in the engine overhaul manual for that engine. Any reasonable AME student should and would know that. So, completely missing the point of my videos... all of them.
@redd1083
@redd1083 4 года назад
Please tell mee how can i learn all that. Is there a book or somthimg Im 19 yrs old Any help?..💓
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
I have a playlist called Your Questions. Somewhere in that playlist is a video called "Books!" Also, if you search the internet for "jet engine" you will find something really good published by RR.
@krzysztofbroda5376
@krzysztofbroda5376 4 года назад
1. how do stator vanes turn fast air into slow higher pressure air? Is it analogous to a water hammer? 2. what's the typical angle of inlet guide vanes?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
1 Its a process called aerodynamic diffusion. 2 every engine is different. Modern engines have variable inlet guide vanes. The angle varies with air speed, density, and engine speed.
@rahulbhatia7798
@rahulbhatia7798 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ And these variable inlet guide vanes are controlled by sensors and computers right?
@krzysztofbroda5376
@krzysztofbroda5376 4 года назад
@@AgentJayZ So flow area actually increases through a stator vane?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Yes. The rotating blades on the spinning rotor increase the velocity of the air. The divergent pathway between the stator vanes causes the air to slow down and increase in pressure.
@DKoppJr
@DKoppJr 4 года назад
Awesome video👍
@GeofreySanders
@GeofreySanders 4 года назад
@~15:45 "Each engine has its own [...] acceptance standards" - Is this each model or each individual unit? [Edit: timestamp]
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
Each model.
@TimNevins
@TimNevins 4 года назад
Are the nozzles proportional in size to the compressor blades?
@AgentJayZ
@AgentJayZ 4 года назад
No. The two have nothing to do with each other in any way.
@tomast9034
@tomast9034 4 года назад
its in the exploded view :D
@hammer2787
@hammer2787 4 года назад
5:46 I call it N.G.V.
@mariosilva6772
@mariosilva6772 3 года назад
@agentJayZ the best!!!
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