Those are great guns, however, the factory chokes they come with are hit or miss. That one doesn't look like one of the better ones. Change chokes out to a good brand choke and you'll be amazed at the difference.
My 20 gauge 301t with factory choke at 35 yards.. Apex 9’s had 470 hits and Federal 9’s had 338 hits inside a 12” box. Apex threw a tighter pattern, Federal was a more open “hunting” pattern IMO
I wanted to try the apex but they are super hard to find around where I live! But thanks for the input if I can get my hands on a box I’ll definitely try them.
@@therush585 I bought 3 boxes of Apex and 4 boxes of Federal when back in January. The Apex is good, but if you’re a 10-40 yard shooter, Federal is all you need. Apex would probably be better for 50-60 yard shots, if you were comfortable killing turkeys that far.
@@therush585 you can call even if says it’s out of stock or go online and order from apex. I think shipping was like $10 when I ordered. Also they will do custom loads of you wanted something not offered standard. Burgess creek you can order 1 shell of different sizes if you wanted see what each one does you don’t have to buy 5
I know the guns were built for federal tss but if you were going to shoot long range Rogue offers 1/4 oz more shot than federal does. Also a different choke may help. Some people say the factory chokes on those guns are hit and miss. Haven’t shot one yet so I don’t know
I’ll have to check into the rogue. Really in most cases where I hunt a 50 yard shot isn’t an option most of the time.So I think the factory choke will do fine in my case. I would definitely think you could swap some stuff up and get a tighter pattern and further range though!!
@@therush585 well while the new long range shooting and tss makes people better killers, you keep em 40 or less and that makes better hunters. I shoot some tss but haven’t killed one over 30 yards in a long time
Rouge, Apex, Burgess creek ammo, Foxtrot, Tungsten Super Slam tss, nitro company, Hevi-18 all offer great tss loads that would be lights out 50 and under. In saying that most shots average around 30 in my experience and I try not to shoot past 45 bc wounding a bird is worse than missing or trying him again another day.
I bought one of these put a SumToy mount, Burris FF3 and bought some chokes. Had either Indian creek or Jebs and apex 9s 60 is a kill shot. Not saying shoot that far just that the pattern is there for a kill shot
I have the Steven's 301 20 look into the Indian creek choke in a 555 and get some apex gt 20 #9 you will not be disappointed federal tss to apex ammo there is no comparison apex blows it out of the water
I don't get a shotgun supposedly designed around a shot shell, here being the Federal TSS. I've got great patterns from a 12 gauge full choke single shot using MUCH cheaper regular and 3" shells. But to each his own.
The bigger question is: Do you hunt turkeys? If your answer is NO, then this gun probably doesn't make sense for you. In essence, this is a turkey sniper with a picatinny rail and tss (tungsten) to shoot out 40+ yards with this set up, and even longer with a right choke.
It’s not really just the head hits at that range it’s wings legs etc. put an aftermarket tube like comp-n-choke and it’ll tighten that 40 pattern nice.
I didnt like the 40 yd pattern...especially if you want to kill a turkey. I did not see enough holes in the imaginary kill zone. Maybe a splatter target would show a better kill zone pattern.
@@therush585 Consider taking a look at a Patternmaster code black turkey. I watched a bird drop stone dead at 62 yards from longbeard XR #5 out a 20 gauge with that choke twisted in. Good luck this spring.