Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ru-vid.comUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
The real Ottoman bow is made very hard, today there are examples in the museum, it applies very strong pressure, most of it pierces the armor. It is very similar to the Cengizhan and Atilla bows.
Yeah your estimate is a little off, but then it's always been funny how people, meaning us, homo sapiens, the modern man, have existed over 200 000 years but call a period which started about 1500 years ago "middle ages".
Good bow, so is the Hungarian bow. However we all know the definitive bow is the Mongolian bow. It's how they made the largest land empire in the world, ever!
@Cevair Zufer Link the evidence for that here. I am pretty sure the Huns brought the design to Europe from central Asia then when they went back east, they took it with them. Then different groups improved upon the design resulting in the best bow, the Mongolian Recurve Bow. Also different materials are used in their construction as a result of their being in different regions with specific resources.
@@nchinth Ive been there several times. Turkey has very nice 4 and 5 star all inclusive resort hotels on the beach at a good price. Alot of Russians go there. Women are like everywhere else. Beautiful when young then go downhill as they age.
Uhhh more like Khaergit. Turk people are the steppe people of Asia. They excels in cavalry troops. Their horse archer is dangerous. And it's also the troop of Mongol Empire. In M&B it is the Khaergit Khanate.
Seeing the bow unstrung explains a lot about the power/speed. A reflex bow such as this carries a TON of power as the natural positioning of the limbs are completely curling away from the archer (when held.) This type of bow takes a lot of strength to string, but is very easy to draw, and it doesn’t necessarily need to be huge.
The man in the red silk uniform is obviously reenacting as a member of the Janissary Corps: the backbone of the Ottoman army from the 14th - 19th centuries. I love the fact that he’s portrayed a Janissary archer, as we usually tend to imagine them armed with muskets and swords, even though they were famously equipped with those weapons.
Not only bow but Korean shooting technique & Aegitsal (short arrow w/ assist) is even similar if not same. This is something no other cultures share. Kyudo, eat ur heart out. Shared heritage even thousands of miles apart. Brotherines of cultures!
@@wolfsblutgraumond7530 If my memory is correct,the Mongols made it into Korea for some time. No doubt the Koreans picked up any techniques or products that would help them,really really quickly. Anything to survive a Mongol invasion would be passed around. By the survivors,anyway. How similar Turkic bows to Mongol ? Probably depends on which century,but likely the best techniques would be passed .
lmao curb your sentiments. Shooting technique is almost same in every country because that's how body mechanics works. Is like saying wow Koreans runs like Africans, they must having the same culture!
Thanks for your video. Watching you build this bow was fascinating to me. You have great craftsmanship and technical knowledge. Comparing it to a "selfbow" is not accurate in my opinion since you used horn, wood and sinew held together with a natural glue. I call it a composite bow. The engineering genius of this bow is amazing. Centuries before modern recurve bows built with epoxy glues and high pressure fiberglass/carbon laminates the Turks/Mongols created a superior futuristic bow. Very smart builders back then.
Love Turkish bows, have a copy of Klopsteg's (American physicist & archer) original 'Turkish Archery' (from the 1940's) that used to belong to my father. Great to view what Dr.Paul Klopsteg described in reality. It is true that Turkish bows shoot incredible distances - they have a great deal of what we old-timers refer to as cast, but it is at the cost of stability. Self & laminated long bows are much more stable to shoot and as a result are much easier to shoot accurately. The most fabulous and most accurate longbow archer I ever heard of, Howard Hill said that's why he shot longbows instead of laminated recurves. I remember old-timers shooting longbows for target, and short Turkish-style recurves for distance (flight archery). You don't get something for nothing in this universe - there's always trade-offs.
i am 70 shot bows all my life ,,the turkish recurve is the most powerfull bow with records of it shooting heavy war arrows thru one half inch of solid brass .. am happy to see this man carry on this remarkable piece of histiry
I beg to differ with the headline - statement of "Turkish Bow Best in the World". These bows were / are built with the same method as other Steppe Nomad Bows, from ancient times by Scythian, Sarmatians, Parthians, Huns, Turks, Avars, Magyars (Hungarians), Pechenegs, Cumans, Mongols and other people of the same cultural heritage. They all had and used the recurve war bows (horse bows), using similar materials and techniques. Small variations in construction of course could make the bow perform differently, but ultimately the best bow was what its user could shoot in the most effective way either on foot or horseback. The Ottomans used the same Steppe bows, adding some variations to make it a powerful and effective bow, but their success was in a combined military machine including, light / heavy cavalry, infantry, skirmishers, artillery, siege engineers and even a navy. Current world records for distances in shooting with a Steppe Recurve/Horse-bow are by Hungarian archer Mr József Monus using in most cases the Gózer bows made in Hungary by Mr Csaba Gózer !
You see Ottomans used the long history of making bows to make the best ones. It doesnt say that only ottomans had horsebows or something. They just took it to an amazing level. And i think the records you are talking are the ones we know. What about old records, what about the ones that are shoot with real ottoman bows(which is built by ottoman masters) by ottoman shooters. In Ottoman they had contest for shooting distance and there was people who were specially trained for this. Known best record in this contest is by "Tozkoparan" and i believe it was more than 800 mt. You can google it. Also you can google "Okmeydanı contests" to learn more about these stuff.
Seems from literature currently and Adam's book on Turkish bow making that if you consider all factors like size and performance that the Turkish bow is the best design. All the other bows are much longer which works against them.
First of all, how is one going to argue with you, if you dont know the simpliest things of ethnicites and civilizations. The Huns were a confederation LED by Turks and both Pechenegs as well as Cumans are Turks as well. Bulgars? Turks too. What else do you want me to say ? You dont even know shit about our history yet you speak about it as if you do. Just stop. Also, no one said we are the only ones who used such kind of bows, stop turning and twisting it around. "The Turks were relatively advanced in the history of bow making. Very fine specimens are exhibited in the Völkerkundemuseum in Vienna and in the castle in Karlsruhe in the weapons collections of the spoils of war from the last Turkish siege." -Wikipedia Dont have to say anything else regarding this. You have no clue what you are talking about. School is where you should be.
@@zealotzealot4848 you are a fool and u don't know history. Turks were living in asia 1000 years ago and they were using this bows. If you dont know history learn it or dont talk about it
Ok 240km is going to be per hour, that works out to somewhere in the range of 200 ft per second, which is pretty basic for a 40 lb bow. To quote a bow forum "These days I regularly hunt with a couple 50-52lb bows. A Turbotec and a Vulcan, and both bows produce 280 fps with 310-320gr shafts." so 200 fps/240 km/hr is nothing.
200 fps or a 3000 year old bow and your bragging about.280 fps? These bows held their own for couple thousand years. THAT is the heavyweight champ right there. Talk to me when you are doing double that since this is 2019.
@@stewyoder1806 it's a force x distance thing that gives the speed, boy type doesn't matter v=at, a = F/m, s=ut+1/2at^2, high school physics, compound just reduces hold weight
@@rxonmymind8362 what? the boy isn't 2000 years old, it's typical recurve so what. and it's not going twice as fast as it's speed is defined by basic physics not magic
Turks consider Koreans as Turk. American Natives, Mongols, Japaneses, Hungarians, Tatars, Kumans, Kipchaks, Saracens (Mamelukes), Fins, even Etruscans in Italy are all considered Turks. Some Turks take it a step further and call Sumerians as Turk and call Indo-European languages were come from Turkish language. And other Turks make fun of them by saying "Even Adam and Eve were Turks."
@@cihanfatihi Close ,but small correction., Not Turk, Scythian, all those you mentioned , children of Nimrod . So this is more like a Scythian stile bow made by Turk. By the way, there is no such a thing like Indo-European language. This is a new invention of fake historians. But I heard similar stuff Turk language close to the Sumerian , I heard 26% similarity between those two.That is the second highest %. But the Hungarian and Sumerian similarity is 65 %. But who knows may be on the end we find out Adam was Turk. It don't make any different, as long we can have peace finally on Earth.
+Johnny Wolfblood What makes you think that it's a lie? people have already tested those bows and the result is always the same. there are historical records dating back to 1500s that those bows could shoot up to 930 yards. some people have already proven it scientifically, the guy above shared one of those tests.
Yeah, nice try mate. But I do archery. And archery is the most strength demanding sport on earth. The strongest bows in history were the English long bows that had a draw weight of 80-120 lbs and shot 300 meters. And EVERYONE who used them had deformed forearms. Mongols used 60-80lbs bows, and had disfigured forearms, English used 80-120lbs and had full blown deformities, Turkish archers didn't have disfigurements at all.
Medieval Turkish okçuluk and Mongol num are the best war bows ever invented. It is nice that the bowyers of both countries maintain the old tradition and now revive the national archery as a beautiful and exciting kind of sports.
Everything is for horsearchers. They are the biggest power of the Turkic armies. They are why Attila could win against the Roman Empire. European army doctrine is strong shields, high disipline infantry and shield wall. But shieldwalls are not effective against horsearchers. They can kill them their back, because they were really fast and they didnt need be close. Knights were biggest power of the Europe but Ottoman Light horsemen can kill all of them. Speed vs shield winner is Speed.
@@Mrjohnnymoo1 No method can be successful forever. Europe has developed new methods. They abandoned the shield wall method. The knights' dysfunction was revealed and their number was reduced. It is also a known fact. Europeans fled the Ottomans for a long time. Fight with them in a plain was suicide. They preferred castle defense.
@@furkanemiralioglu2635 From Charles the Hammer to 1627 The Ottomans and Moores weren't able to accomplish a single Western Europe expansion that was impactful other than Sicily (this isn't just singling them out, not even the Mongols could). I don't disagree with any of your statements, but it's incredibly hard to summarize 900 years in a RU-vid comment. No matter how well the reasons are explained, it's just how it went.
Dude, you do know that Turks and Mongols diverged from the same group about 2000 years ago and were joint rulers of multiple empires that were around a few hundred years ago. They likely perfected the bow long ago before they split.
@@globalmillitary9611 there's no best bow. Its on the person who carry a bow.. Genghis khan is lives almost thousand years ago and his bow is much accurate and his art of war is awesome. Almost thousand years ago, mongols and turks are already split. But Genghis Khan can manage to conquered turkey again.
@@marktabiolo534wait what? Lol. You do realise that most of Genghis Khans troops were Turkic and that Turkey as we know it wasn't even under proper Turkish control back then? That being said the Turkic settlers did manage to drive off the Mongols. However in the 1400s the Ottomans got a wake up call by a man named Timur. A Turco-Mongol who is respected by many Turks.
İf we compare long bow and 'curved bow' (Turkish Bow) Turkish Bow is smaller than long Bow because it was made for using at horse back. You cant use long bows at horse back. İf we think Turks used horses efficiently at wars, using smaller ones better.(Horses were very important for Turks in Asia at typical life)
The english also used recurve bows since the romans used recurve bows when they conquered Britain, these particular bows are what are called composite bows, which are assembled from different materials, they weren't as popular in colder and wetter areas since the glue deteriorated quickly. Most examples were used by steppe nomads or southern kingdoms.
800m my ass! The current record with an English longbow is 412.82 m, shot by Jószef Mónus from Hungary in 2017, while Ivar Malde from Norway achieved 566.83 m with a Turkish composite bow in 2019.
It's just how Turkic bows be held. you can't hold it in that way with an English type bow. Every bow has it's own style and rules. I learned once both and the imagining your comment made me laugh forgive me dude :D
It is the best way to hold a short bow in actual war. This hold gives you speed which is crucial in war but modern technique provides you with more precision.
I’m surprised by the lack of historical knowledge by lots of commenters here. The English longbow is the most technologically advanced bow in the world! Not Turkish bow. Sometime in the days before most of us here were born, a band of Turkish warriors migrated into England and Scotland. While in England, these Turkish warriors made a breakthrough... They FINALLY figured out how to make a bow using a single stick of wood!! Nomads for centuries had been trying to figure out how to build a bow with a single piece of wood, as well as being much larger and more comfortable on horseback. So, these Turkish migrants invented the longbow and introduced it to the region before deciding to leave the island due to bad weather and bad food. So, it was the Turks who invented the longbow. If you don’t believe me, then I’d suggest reading the studies of Wilhelm Shimpf and Barkey Buckleton, 2 renown scholars in the field of Turkish bow development. You’re welcome.
Your reply was so retarded you were so insignificant took that long to earn a reply from me-. Ottomans lost every single ? Let me give an example to prove you wrong yet again *Crusade of Varna* Kingdom of Poland Kingdom of Hungary Crown of Bohemia Grand Duchy of Lithuania Wallachia Wallachia Principality of Moldavia Bulgarian rebels Holy Roman Empire Papal States Teutonic Knights vs Ottoman Empire Which Result in Decisive Ottoman victory Even if you gang up like worthless shits you still lose? :D :D :D
Most probably Xiongnu was first using these kind of bows, it was a military confederation which united all nomads in central asia around 200 BC. The ruler class was probably Turkic or Mongol that there is no way to prove, in Turkish there are ancient sagas about Modu Chanyu (Mete in Turkish) but it is very possible there are similar sagas in Mongol as well. Anyway Modu gained power by killing his father in 209 BC according to Turkish saga his personal guards were so well trained they were shooting everything down very accurately in just few seconds after he pointed! One day he was again demonstrating how well his guards were in archery during a festival then suddenly he pointed his father and guards shot him with a dozen arrows in a second!! After he became khan he modernized military with decimal system of ranks that we still use today and established a huge empire in few years then invaded China. Huns (The race europeans called Huns was again a nomadic mix and there wasn't really such a race), Turks, Mongols etc all nomadic people were using same decimal system of ranks and bows etc so we Turks consider Xiongnu (The great hunnic empire in Turkish) as ancestors of all nomads and Korea also had nomadic migration from Central asia..
@@ggoddkkiller1342 That was basically USA of Asia which includes Altaics and Uralics Altaics: Turks, Mongolians, Koreans, and minorities of those 3. Uralics: Magyars, Finns and etc... That shouldn't be hard to know...
@@erdemsahin6484 I could easily write that due in my country Huns are officially considered as a confederation of Altaic people and there was no Hunnic nation at first place but i seriously doubt western people would understand it if i wrote it like that due even after 15 hundred years majority of western historians still believe that there was a nation called Huns and a hunnic language even if there are many evidence which proves otherwise such as that Hunnic language had Turkic words and Hunnic armies had very mongoloid looking soldiers etc!! Rather they belive both Huns and Hunnic language disappeared somehow :))
All I need to know is if these are sold on Amazon yet. What an amazing short story and bit of engineering history! It looked like a combination of a wood riser, wood limbs strengthened by horn plates, hemp rope, sinew wraps and a type of organic glue before decorating. I'd be willing to bet a heavy arrow with a deep penetrating broadhead, probably a field point, would go through enemy plate armor even at distance. The final piece was a custom gold thumb release embedded with gemstones. #Sweet!
@@josephdaluz7321 I would, but I am broke. Good luck in your hunt for a customer) Edit: I wouldn't because the climate in my neck of the woods would destroy biocomposites.
Years ago, in 5th or 6th grade, I met and became friendly with a boy whose grand parents were from Armenia; our city had a very mixed population of first and second generation middle eastern immigrants and in my particular neighborhood a large portion of that population were basically refugees from the Armenian Massacre. Charles and I shared a fondness for Archery which we practiced frequently in the open fields near our homes. I used an all glass bow with a two piece black plastic grip which had a draw weight of 45 pounds; it was an ugly beast of a thing in a basic long bow style but it did have advantages, the first being the initial cost - less than $20.00 - which allowed me to get into a sport that I could afford on my own. Now, I'd had 2 bows before I bought this one, I'd made both out of ash purchased from the local hardwood lumber supplier and they worked pretty well but I wanted something much better and so the all glass bow came into being. As I recall that 45 pound pull weight was very close the the limit of my muscle power - at least it was at my limit early on before I became accustomed to the bows power and after weeks of determined practice. Charles on the other hand used a bow which had been made by his Grandfather according to bow making traditions in Armenia and though I don't think it was made in Armenia - one look and I knew that this bow was something very special - even to my teenaged eye it had the look of a handmade masterpiece. It was at least a foot shorter than my glass bow and the draw weight seemed to be not quite half of my bows draw weight. It was very light to carry and beautifully balanced and it could be shot from either hand and it did not matter if the bow was held one way up or down. The marvel was that it could out shoot my bow effortlessly! We never measured exact distances but I would guess my bow could shoot over 300 feet while Charle's bow could shoot closer to 400 feet. Of course Charle's bow required some care while my all glass bow received no special care at all though to store it in my closet I did unstring it most if not all the time. I don't know if Armenian Bows and Turkish share much in design or build technique but there's no doubt in my mind that Middle Eastern Bows are something very special and if you can find one to buy then by all means do so.
@@McXyu There are records from the 16th to 18th century which attest to the truth, repeated in modern times. It is amazing but completely true. Special super-light arrows only achieve these ranges though. The fact remains these bows are considerably more efficient than even the best self/long bows. I'm English, but have to conceed the trith.
For those 'dissing' the Turkish and eastern horn bows, they could shoot an arrow further and faster than a longbow. The longbow however could shoot a heavier arrow.
An ancient technology for the construction and manufacture of an arch of wood, horns and tendons. The advantages are durability, flexibility and lightness. Due to this, the arrow achieves great speed. Congratulations on keeping your ancestors alive 😄.
I think I have one of those at my relatives house. My step-great grandfather brought it back from WW1 and it was made with Human sinew. It looks too brittle to use but the appearance seems similar to the one in the video.
unknown story ottoman ambassador vs british long bows... In 1795 Mahmoud Effendi, secretary to the Turkish Ambassador in London, shot a 25.5“ flight arrow 480 yards (which would have won him the 20 pence in the 16th century), to the great amazement of Thomas Waring and other notable British bowyers and archers present, as Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey relates. The secretary however excused his ’mediocre’ performance with both himself and the bow being out of practice, and confirmed that the best Ottoman archers were able to surpass 800 yards. Payne-Gallway himself reached 367 yards under controlled conditions on 7 July 1905, and up to 421 yards in private practice, with a Turkish bow, and he mentions 340 yards as the farthest verified distance shot with an English longbow by one Mr. Troward in 1798.
Wait 240kmh is only like 220fps with a draw weight of 130lb . My Hoyt defiant shoots 320fps with a draw weight of 70lb . Very fast traditional bow but far from the best bow in the world
240 fps with a draw weight behind release of 40 pounds and an arrow weighing 21 grains (that arrow could be lighter than a sheet of A4 paper). Something does not add up < /em 'coughs' >
You have no clue.Turkish is the original Mongol is thee same as Turkish. It has existed for many thousands of years. Of course being further improved during Turkish Osmanlı era.
Turkish bow is just variation of Mongolian Immortalized by the Mongols during the 3rd-century onwards, the Mongolian recurve bow is widely considered one of the most powerful, and deadly, bows in history. These bows could famously shoot with pinpoint accuracy at over 500 yards (450+ meters), and were often used from horseback. Like other bows developed in the East, the Turkish bow was drawn using the archer's thumb (unlike fingers in Europe). This technique was developed to assist in shooting while on horseback. Turkish archers also developed techniques to speed up shooting in battle like the practice of holding spare arrows between the fingers of the draw hand.
"Best in the world" , yeah turkey is best in the world in everything on this channel, it also probably didn't fail to conquer Europe and won WWI on this channel as well
Which part of this channel od wrong?? I am not turkish and I liked the video. The only problem I see is you. 😅😅 You are watching videos from a channel you don't like and complaining about it. What an idiot. 😅😅
@@yuu9258 You can't tell if the video is good or bad until you watch it. Following by your logic people should never ever have any bad impressions of anything because they only do or watch things they like.
If you asked my dad he would have said that Turkish bows are good but Swedish bows are the best in the world😁. I miss that '.. oh yeah we the best..' kind if talk.
Korean bows have almost exactly the same construction. Wooden core with reflexed tips glued in using V joints, horn on the belly and sinew on the back. A few other cultures did the same thing. I have no idea who was doing it first - there was a lot of trade between those regions.
How come the maker doesn't groove the core/horn joint? It is necessary. Then halfway through you use a depiction of Scythian bow and a pretend tip made of horn bound in leather? No bow is 'the best in the World'......every bow design from history is close to perfect for the situation it was used in and the materials they had available to them.
If anyone watched through until the end, the bow that is shown couldn't even penetrate a gambeson. That thing shoots like 50 "kilometers of speed" not 240, you apes.
yet an english longbow is 100 pound draw.. and even my 40 !!!!!!!!!! pound longbow can shoot an arrow TWICE that speed. SHORT bows tend to be weak... not surprised. ps my arrows are chronographing at rough 400 kilo's an hour.... and they weight more....
@@harleyme3163 Length does not make it fast, especially when one type of bow is made from horn and sinew, while the other is a selfbow. Composite bows are short, but not weak by any means. Turkish bows were made to shoot exceedingly light arrows at high speed. Longbows shoot heavier ones at slightly lower speed. The video doesnt go into much detail, but Korean bows(which are widely considered some of the fastest) can often fire a 7gpp arrow at around 200 fps. Turkish bows are usually slightly below that at around 190-200 This allowed korean archers to fire from a great distance with great ease. Other types of composite bows were sometimes made to fill a similar role to longbows, that being footmen penetrating light armor at fairly close range. Take the manchu bow for instance, which famously hurled massively heavy arrows at around 170-185 fps, and had greater penetration capabilities than even the english longbow, though shorter range due to the lower velocity.
Read 2000 years of Turkish history , we left from deep of Chinese fucking wall and beat whole fucking Asian , European and African nations with this bow 🤫
@@LARAİNWONDERLAND1 yorumlardan bahsediyorum. video yabancılar için yapılmış neden Türklükle alakalı yabancı videoların altında Türk yorumcular var olsun tuhafıma gidiyor
This is a typical composite bow; the tendons are on the outer side of the bow to help the wooden core stand the stretching (you can see the preparation: hammering and separating the threads, soaking/cooking and placing them so they bind together while drying) The inner side is strengthened by placing a piece of a horn - a natural material that can withstand tremendous compression. That's all nice and well. But the thing is composite bows were invented by the Huns. Not Turks. It was recorded by the Romans that Huns were using composite bows in the 5th century. Turks came in the 14th century.
@@mr.mister2783 but Turkish and Hungarian bows are slightly different and I think the record was made with a Hungarian bow, though the record only lists it as a handmade Asiatic bow.
the turkish bow was a very fine piece of engineering, it sent a very light arrow a long distance. it had very little combat value the arrow was to light
They used bows in excess of 90 pounds and shot war arrows at higher velocity and longer range than a classic longbow can (which is a primitive design compared to a composite, mechanically much less efficient, requiring much more raw strength to achieve similar results) . The fact that their war arrows were a bit lighter does not mean that it did not penetrate effectively, they hit at greater speed. Flight archery is a completely different thing, they used different and much lighter arrows, it cannot be compared to battlefield archery.
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