Turn the key is a BAD cue (except when it's very good...) 

fixed my nose angle by putting more pressure on my thumb and pinky in my grip.

Ansolutely agree Doc. It's all about the grip!

Releasing too early also is an issue. If you arm is not at or near full extension with a solid follow through - it will come out nose up as well. (my issue)

The grip you used for the Glitch helps me with new dics, been almost doing it before, but every disc is unique, and there might be a perfect driver for YOU reading this, the Ballista is mine so far, it gets nice nose compared to a lot of discs with less speed and same speed with different grips, some days you just forget using all the things like the actual grip you use for a year... the bane of having kids and no time to cement the groundwork fully ;D

I needed this video, been trying to turn the key and get the nose down but it doesn't work for me. I'll stop trying and just work on the swing plane instead.

Another gem!

This is great.

I have been struggling with nose up. From watching your videos I have come to the conclusion that my issue lies further up the chain of my throw. It’s common knowledge that you dont “release” the disc, it comes out when it wants to. and that arm muscles are “weak” in comparison to the momentum generated by a proper throw. So the idea that you can manually twist your wrist while throwing doesn’t make sense to me

Nice! I've found that when I have nose up issues it's usually one of three things (or any combination I guess!); high to low as the disc comes across the body (the Swoop), poor swing path integrity where the hand goes high in relation to hyzer angle during the follow through), or leaning back (towards the back of the teepad). That said, I try to think about where I want my thumb to be in the follow through and let my brain take care of controlling wrist position during the throw.

I think the concept is good for any angle, but not by turning the wrist for the reasons you mentioned. I think any action done by the wrist alone is going to result in inconsistencies and RPM losses per Overthrow’s experiments. However, the concept when performed by the thumb via it pushing down and forward is I think what you want, per discussion with Avery Jenkins. This thumb motion will keep the disc nose down, provided you time it right, which I think is right after the disc weight change (right as soon as the forearm is opening). The movement also adds to the opening of the forearm without using the triceps, which I think is a dangerous muscle group to actively engage in propelling the forearm open. Practicing this more has gotten me to park an over 300 foot uphill hole the other day using a fairway with a fan grip and a slow two step run up. I could definitely still be wrong, but just trying to develop concepts using others’ information who know more than me, and that I think is safe.

I've been messing around with the "turn the key" cue on my tech disc, and it feels like abruptly flipping the disc on release puts a lot of uncomfortable pressure on my fingers. However, one of my friends whose max throws are 4-5mph less than me started SMOKING me on distance with anhyzer flex lines recently. I'm convinced nose angle is the key (well, that plus disc stability on that line). I want to find a natural amount of supination in my swing, which I don't see being painful and which should be especially useful when paired with a high launch angle. Not counting out "turn the key" entirely, yet. Would love to see some tech disc data in this discussion, since I feel like that's the best way to measure nose angle.

Explains why my sky annies went to pot here in the last year. Arm posture and alignment are so critical

I love DG spin doctor, but I think it’s a mixture of different cues or whatever works for you. Turning the key/pour the coffee combination worked best for me to get the nose down. Once you figure that out, it’s very easy to throw your putters/mids nose up for approach shots for a more fading gliding shot.

I'm someone that has a lot of trouble comfortably following through on my extreme anhyzer shots, such as backhand rollers. IDK if "turn the key" is right for me in that instance either, but I would be very interested in BH roller / anhyzer videos you got coming out. Checking out the back catalogue now

I never took this cue to mean do it in a jerking movement at the end, rather I think about it as keeping my wrist supinated, palm up starting at my reach back, through the pocket and the hit.

Just curious, why would you do the key turning only just before the release? Why not just keep that wrist angle throughout the throw?

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I don’t know your name. Lol. I must be blind. I like what you do. Your videos I find helpful. Do you ever do clinics in the states?

Turn the key is littersly only way i ever get nose down results with the tech disc. Otherwise im always 5 plus nose up

They gon rip you for this one chief 😂

I still dont get it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭