Turning Boys Into Men: How To Master Power, Sex, Psychology To Stop Feeling Lost | Justin Waller 

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Great to see a mature conversation between two men who have differing viewpoints, but can maintain mutual respect while disagreeing.

I do agree with him when he mentioned how school holds boys down. I dealt with it when my son was in 5th grade (2002ish)...and his Language Arts 25-yo New Teacher gave him a C- on a project of his choosing. He chose Jerry Rice...made a poster board and wrote a report. I supported but he did the work. He knew his football career inside out, and was crushed with the "C-". I met with his young new 25-year-old teacher...she said that boys need to choose another figure other than sports...I said really, "So are girls being told they can no longer write about horses?" No answer, it didn't help it was a difficult year and definitely killed his enthusiasm about putting effort into a report.

I love how honest this whole conversation is. Tom didn’t let him off the hook with his questions and Justin was willing to elaborate when needed. Great episode.

I can relate to this. My kids mom lost all respect for me after she got her nursing degree and makes more money then me. Sad part is I worked 3 jobs while in active addiction to support her while she was in school. But crap happens and it's time for me to turn the tables again.

Love how you guys didn’t agree on everything but really tried to understand the other person’s perspective.. great conversation! 😊

J. Waller is right. When a man improves himself, everything else will follow him. Your look matter, assets, and knowledge

This discussion was refreshing. Let's teach big media and politicians to communicate with us all in the same way.

He nailed the issue with where we are as a culture, right off the bat. It’s really hard for me to struggle raising a family and go into debt with a normal career (I’m a plumber) and then see people living the dream that did nothing. It makes you want to give up and burn the whole system down. It’s failed us…

This is a FANTASTIC example (in my opinion) of how men ARE being men! They both push each other on their ideas, personal philosophies and life standards. All the while seeking out the stone to build common ground and figuring out a way forward. It's not about the disagreement, it's IF there is something there that can be refined into a functional resource. I am so high right now! This isn't an echo chamber. Tom/ Justin y'all killed it, let's eat! 🍻 Cheers mates!!!

Tom, you really took me by surprise on this episode. I followed you a long time ago but coming back after a while, I’m shocked at your mind and how genuine you are. This was a very important conversation, and I’m grateful that both of you have had this opportunity to have this discussion.

Probably the best conversation on the internet displaying how to have a conversation with nuance, respect and fun! A masterclass.

THESE TWO EXERCISED AND EXEMPLIFIED WHAT IT MEANS AND HOW TO HAVE DISCOURSE AND POSITIVE DISAGREEMENTS!!!! Two class acts and would love to see follow up podcasts between these two. 👏👏👏

Great conversation lads! I love the respectful push back on each others opinions, one of the best conversations I've seen in a long time.

This is by far one of the best conversations about masculinity between two men's. Respected to the maximum guy's

The problem is distraction and immediate gratification through validation

When I was 24, I was acting up to people who were older than me. I was disrespectful and they put me in my place with aggression and violence, it worked well enough for me to develop respect for other people and their right to a peaceful life free from my disturbance. So their aggression helped me learn to respect someone's boundaries. Too much violence would have been unnecessary, a little violence without harsh consequences at that age was just right to shift my trajectory on a path of humbleness and learning to become a better individual.

dude, the way Tom handles this conversation is flawless. you can see the gap between the level of confidence and security of the two wowww!!!! Stay being you Tom

I love how they communicate and clarify with each other, and acknowledge emotions and personal values, instead of pretending they’re hyper masculine men that are strong and feel nothing

this was wholesome and educational as hell, this is like a class on how disagreeing sides can work together to an even better effect that agreeing sides

People who don't have kids just will never understand the true joy of having a child...and IMO are missing out on one of the best things about life..

Tom getting in the social/political space is truly awsome. Nuanced, disagreeable but not needlessly and brilliant. Love it.

This is how conversations should be communicated! I love the different view points. If everyone thought and felt exactly the same there would be clones of yourself running around everywhere...

I admired his honesty and showing how his values makes his life. They both show their vulnerabilities and their different views and respect to each other. Totally agreed about the media taking away the masculinity of men and how sex has become not a partnership or getting closer to another human being. So much to learn! Thank you for both🙏

"You must work hard to garner a set of skills that allow you to serve yourself and other people in a way that you find exciting. If you do that and you are making progress towards getting better at helping people at something that you are excited about you will even in moments of grief (pain and suffering) have fulfillment." -Tom Self-fulfillment is the optimal neurological state. This is gold.

This conversation showed the level of control and intelligence both these men have. Great interview by Tom respect. Justin is a G.

Masculinity is necessary to guide little girls now a days into not being little ig models and only fan girls. It is needed Tom. You don't have children, do you know what children go through now a days that only a strong father can offer and be respected. ** I'm a female and I grew up with a strong father

My North star: aim for perfection, and genuinely help those around you who are also aiming for the same

One amazing man-to-man conversation. Love the honesty and respect between these two.

This has to be the most mentally stimulating discussion I have heard in a very long time. The way you guys respected each others position is just flawless. And Tom you are right on 99% of your points. 🤓

I absolutely shuddered when he said "I want the ultimate divorce nightmare, because we're never getting divorced"... 1. Words have power 2. Never say never

Thank you Tom and Justin for being so open in this discussion. There are so many good thoughts and points that relate to real men in our day and age. Let's all grow and build to be the best men we can do that we can establish a new era of men who are unshaken. Let's go brothers!

Love how Justin stood his grown. The conversation was very telling. Justin looks down and then into your eyes. Tom looks all over the room searching and then back to you. Body language of Justin … confidence. Tom …unsure if this person will buy this information. Fascinating dynamics when two people are in a room.

The whole message boils down to men have to struggle to become great. Not all are guaranteed to be great just bc you struggle but you’re guaranteed to not be great if you never struggle.. just strive to be the best man you can be and forget about how hard it is and what the outcome is gonna be..

Women only cheat for someone "higher" If shes in a superficial relationship. Her relationship is not even real, its just safety reasons, fear of being alone, convenient, etc If a woman really loves a man, she wont cheat. The mistake people believe is that, they think a woman is in love, because she is married and has kids to a man. But thats not true. So many women settle for guys they dont love, in fear of being alone, or he could have a good income, to look after her and the kids. Social media has opened the window for women to actually find someone out of there area. That their compatible with. But i agree with this chap. Women should be patient before rushing into a relationship in the first place. And it does disgust me also that they are having a double dip after deciding to settling down. To many people are not playing around when they should, in their 20's. This will give them wisdom and life experience in what they want in a partner. But most people now want to start families and get married in their 20's. But havent discovered who they are, what they like etc. So now they are essential playing around in their 30s, with husband and kids. I see it everywhere and it is disgusting. Marriage is not marriage anymore. People get married for the spectacle of the event. And the relief of not being alone anymore. Its doesnt mean anything now. Instant gratification fuels the generation now. If you get married and have babies, you are the attention for that moment. Than it wears off and then they realize......... shit!! i just hads kids and married someone that im not actually in love with. It was just the energy of the moment. But entitlement says..... Who cares that i married someone and that i have kids to this person, now is my time to find the real love of my life. SMH So many people double dipping after making life long commitments.

0:00: 👫 The speaker believes that strong men are necessary for successful relationships and that men need to be the leaders in their households. 13:48: 👨‍👧‍👧 The speaker wants young men to have choice and be fulfilled in their relationships, emphasizing the importance of appreciation and protection. 25:45: 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 The speaker believes that men are being suppressed in society and that young men are dissatisfied with the direction society is taking them. 39:11: 💡 The key to guiding young men is to help them become the best version of themselves, focusing on physical fitness, financial literacy, communication skills, and understanding female nature. 51:22: 🤔 The line between good and evil runs through every person's heart, and humans are capable of both. 1:04:56: 🤔 The speaker discusses his views on judgment, nature, and hypergamy, as well as his perspective on social media and relationships. 1:18:50: 👥 The speaker discusses the lack of discipline in society and the impact it has on people's choices, particularly in relationships and sexuality. 1:31:57: 👥 The speaker believes that the natural state of a woman is to be submissive and in a helping role, and that most women do not want the pressure and stress of work and decision-making. 1:47:31: 😮 The conversation discusses various topics including the importance of shared narratives, the role of Christianity in Western civilization, and the perception of Jordan Peterson's actions as hypocritical. 2:05:17: 😊 Jay Waller expresses his loyalty and admiration for Andrew Tate and discusses the importance of brotherhood and happiness in his life. 2:13:06: 💪 The speaker believes in being unapologetic about building a group of men that hold each other to a high standard, and that trust and loyalty are crucial in such relationships. 2:26:10: 💑 The speaker discusses his relationship with his wife, their commitment to each other, and their decision not to have children. 2:38:42: 👨‍👧‍👧 The speaker expresses his motivation and inspiration to work hard every day for his daughters and create a legacy for them, while also discussing his thoughts on fatherhood and the challenges of raising children in a wealthy family. 2:52:23: 🏗 From starting with a job to building a multi-million dollar steel building business, the journey involved getting a contractor's license, living frugally, building systems, and trusting employees. 3:04:58: 🔑 The speaker discusses the importance of trust in building relationships and its impact on business success. Recap by Tammy AI

I have never listened to Mr. Waller and am very new to Impact Theory itself, but as an admirer of complex, respectful conversation, I wanted to thank you both for such an engaging podcast. I subscribed because I like the confidence of Mr. Bilyeu without defaulting to tiresome arrogance and aggression. Too many interviewers are pedaling cartoonish personalities for views. i think every person can benefit from listening to non-judgmental, open-minded conversation. That's where the true salesmanship of Mr. Bilyeu is so evident and yet still welcome. He's worth buying into as an influencer.

The Father vs Kid thing...that is a very interesting topic. I find I'm even more driven because I have kids. I find I'm capable of being disciplined even more. I found that being a parent (Dad) is the part of my life that I enjoy the most. Did I lose space? Time? yes. But that also happened when I got married. That is to me, besides the point. Kids further make me enjoy serving my family and being the last one to be served. Getting a compliment is enough. The other part is the relation...the love, the joy, the doubts, the coaching, the learning. But to me, the greatest thing is finding what makes them click and driving them towards unlocking their potential. Blank canvas...it's not about if they will make money if they will "successful"....! What I ask myself: did I make a good job at passing them good values and morals? Beyond that, did I steer them and helped them unlock their potential? That is what brings confidence, sparks drive, and paves their way into choices that make sense. The world is better off if people can use their talents!

Watching Tom resist the red pill and knowing what comes next in his relationship

All signs suggest that 2023 will be a year of severe economic pain, I was really hopeful of my investments this year, but all my plans have been disoriented. I've been studying the market crashes and I realized some investors made a fortune from the recent recession and I was wondering if such success rate could be achieved in this present market. I'm open to ideas about investing for retirement.

Best conversation between 2 man with disagreement about masculinity, truly amazing. I myself agree with Justin. But man how perfectly calm and concrete answeres as to their viewpoints they are giving is just amazing. I usually hate this topic because its just a scream festival saying: "I know better". These great man really listen and try to understand eachother and even if the other changes their view on a little point they are respecting it and change their view. These are the real man we need more of. I love it!❤

One of the best interviews Tom and Justin have ever done. A must listen for every man. The flow, pushback and counters are superb. 89k views in 3 days - definitely underrated.

Stocks are pretty unstable at the moment, but if you do the right math, you should be just fine. Bloomberg and other finance media have been recording cases of folks gaining over 250k just in a matter of weeks/couple months, so I think there are alot of wealth transfer in this downtime if you know where to look.

I hardly comment, but his guy has a very old and conservative view that I just couldn't resist. This is the reason why many great and strong men feel peer pressure to have this facade of being rough and tough and lose control and respect within their inner circle.

I had only seen shorts of him and wasn't sure how I felt about him. Whether he was a legit winner or just some internet personality creation to fill a niche. Great talk and great to see just a good dude spreading his own positive message!

finally an interview where two sides are actually not in full agreement. This was real and genuine, highly appreciated a bit of challenge in perspectives on this one.

This is how you have an intelligent conversation,. They were not "married to their ideals," impeccable listening, and respect. I learned a lot from both Tom and Justin. I lean more toward Justin but Tom got me to think deeply about what I believe and why I believe it. Great interview brothers!

An interview that all MEN need!!! Shout out to Tom and JWaller 2 real ones!!!

It’s nice to see a genuine interaction w 2 people picking each others brain 🧠

One huge problem for boys is the modern school system. We expect them to sit all day for 6 hours, looking forward, not learning life skills, survival skills, community skills, etc. It's torture and a huge wasteland of soul crushingness. I was in the school district for 17 years. Trust me. We're hurting them 100% agree with working on your body as a young man. The physical exertion alone will start to lift adrenalin, dopamine, testosterone, etc. Boys need to become men. Not be held down by feminist crazies.💕💕💕

One of my favorite papers I wrote in grad school (MA in special education) was titled, The Condundrum of Too Many Choices, and even back then (20 years ago) it was clear that just creating more choice is not only not the point, it actually makes us less satisfied with what we choose. Too many choices is counterproductive to happiness and fulfillment, and probably productivity. We just need one, better choice, or, optimally, 3-5 choices is the sweet spot for humans.

Tom’s interview style is far superior to every other podcaster is watched. Love that he challenges his guests ideals and beliefs to pull as much insight out as possible.

Justin is so well spoken, conducts himself so well, truly admirable.

The genuine deep emotion behind that first response. Brought a tear to my eye. 2:13:18

Civilization at its best! Such a beautiful conversation and so much value in it! Thank you Tom 🙏🏾

Incredibly important conversation, thanks for having Justin on the podcast 💪🏻

Don’t put all your selfvalue into “providing” material things. If something happens to you someday and you can’t do it, you will not know who you are. Being a father and husband is a lot more. You can also be a guide, a safe haven and a disciplinary. Don’t make the same mistake as the precious generations.

“Put me in Coach”--I’m a woman who would love to be a part of this conversation.

I am sooooo glad to see jwaller blowing up...cuz his content and points of view have helped me alot..

The problem is not between men and women, the problem comes from those who has inoculate polarization and confrontation between us.

This is one amazing talk! ❤❤❤ This is, first of all, a lesson about how a conversation should take place in order to bring value instead of a ego combat 🙏👌

What a way to converse! Between to accomplished human that do not wanna convince each other of anything and are just present glad to have met each other or maybe just present, open and curious.

Every relationship should be a partnership. And each one looks different. Both my husband and I grew up without fathers with very different outcomes. I BECAME the "man" of the house and he became the kindest most nurturing human I've ever met. And we have swapped "traditional" gender roles and it works so well for us. He's stronger physically, and I'm stronger emotionally by nature, but by having to take on these roles outside of our "nature" we are both more well rounded. we are mutually valued, respected and ultimately a stronger team. I am decisive and ambitious and he is grounding and observant. I have the space and power to do whatever I want to do but if he says a hard no.... I trust that he probably has a reason for our best interests. And I think that works both ways despite gender. as long as it is balanced, we'll communicated and consensual... go nuts.

“Money is not going to change how you feel about yourself.” - Very interesting statement from Tom, when he shares about having a lot more decimal points in his bank account. “I still have the same insecurities I had 90 seconds ago.” Wow. While I am grateful for abundance, I too have experienced that when the stress of lack of money was gone, my mind was now worrying about different matters. Lol, as Moby said in an interview I watched with him, having gone from abject poverty into worldwide notoriety and abundance “There is no escaping the human condition.” I think the quest for meaning and for living a meaningful and fulfilling life Is the quest of this life experience.

My wife and I were listening to this together and we both agree wholeheartedly that the reason Justin wants other women is because he's not fulfilled in his relationship with his kids mother. My current wife is the only woman I have ever been with that I didn't also want other women. She's the real deal. We are a true team and we are each other's #1. When you meet the right person, you calm down and focus on who and what you've got. If you REALLY REALLY love someone, you give your entire self to them, not because you feel obligated, but because you cannot help it and you feel so grateful they are in your life and in your corner. You don't see other people as "options"... "I have incredible sexual discipline" and "I do it because it feels good" are contradictory statements. Justin spent the entire podcast trying to tell everyone what a good guy he is. I've never met a great person that felt the need to convince me of how great they are, but I've met a lot of narcissistic assholes that did 😉 Justin simply found a way to rationalize his behavior away, and now has a community of other men that support that lifestyle. Yes extreme feminism of today is toxic and hurting women, but it's also not healthy to Lord over women because you make a lot of money. That's not loving behavior. That's not a team attitude. That's not the way you'd want to be treated if the show were on the other foot, but narcissistic assholes thrive on this situation and behavior. There should be no gender war. All these problems are human problems and each side is framing the situation through an incredible biased lens.

Justin is such a role model man!!! As a woman, wife, mother, business owner I absolutely love him and agree 100% with his theory/mindset. What a GENTLEMAN!!

33:30 Absolutely right. Someone put it into this simple formula: "Strong people create good times. Good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people."

Justin is a rare brother who can actually train you to become a better version of yourself.

I’m a woman and I agree 100% with what Justin Waller is saying and I don’t view his views and red pill as the same though there is overlap. This was a very nuanced discussion that most people are too lazy or too traumatized to have. Loved it!

It’s a big thing being a high value man and everything it comes with it. Especially when your a business owner who provides a stable environment for your staff along with a opportunity for them to progress themselves. Its a balance between the both and it’s such a hard dynamic to provide in this day in age

Just need go be a chad or rich simple...

My Mom yelled at us our entire lives. She never spoke to us. It was horrible...after listening to this I really need to be conscious and never want to yell at my kids...

I'm gobsmacked. Gosh, that was intense! My judgement re both of you on this interview doesn't matter. I sometimes hated Tom. I sometimes hated Justin. I sometimes expected to see a bloodbath. Tom, Justin, it takes a ton of balls to open up for the whole world to see your deepest vulnerabilities.🤯 Tom, I must learn your way of responding when cornered 🙇‍♂🙇‍♀❤‍🔥

There is so much to learn from in this interview. Psychology, relationship, money, the reality of the world. This discussion is so deep and I'm glad these successful men are able to share this with others. The world need strong men. Strong men can make the world a better place for women. Thank you Tom for this wonderful interview.

I had to turn it at 15:15 when I heard a grown man say "Let's talk about your energy changing when you said that" 😂😂😂

This gentleman is a good example of someone who reveals himself in his lack of cohesive discourse. I think he struggles to conversate outside of his echo chamber. I admire Tom’s willingness to bring him on the show and the tactful manner with which Tom handled himself.

Brene Brown's work helped to demonstrate what I think is true about vulnerability ultimately being powerful. I think Tom comes off much sexier talking from the heart, relaxed back, than Justin getting tense and flexing over the table in defense of his friend.

I’ve been a long time viewer of Impact Theory and have only seen Justin on podcasts in the redpill space on a panel partially made up of women on OnlyFans. I was really surprised by this guest choice, but I definitely feel this was a platform that allowed for productive conversation, exploration of ideas, and personal philosophies. Tom you are incredible at meeting people on their level which always allows you to get the best from your guests. Thank you for dedicating yourself to providing this content.

Im a woman and im much stronger physically and i believe in the positive energy u put off due to being strong and healthy because u feel better mentally and physically. As a massage therpist and trainer. Ive never once met anyone who said they felt worse from working out

Excellent discussion. This triggered a thought in my mind. A common misconception is that strength equals or requires aggression. True strength does not require aggression. The only way to be truly meek is to be strong. Strength means standing firm on the things that matter, but firmness should not turn to aggression. Sometimes the weak resort to aggression to make up for lack of strength. Aggression can be a way to create the faux impression of strength to those who are unable to see through the surface. Aggression can be a way to instill fear, but true strength instills respect without the need to resort to fear tactics. I think courage and humility are characteristics of the truly strong.

Watching podcasts like this makes me appreciate my wife so much. I'm a lucky guy. My discipline sucks (but is probably above average like everything else I've learned about myself) but I work HARD.

Justin is great - no flaunting, no showing off, no degrading remarks, etc. Just pure value & humility - love his content

The internet world is not our reality. Live your life in real time, meet real people in your everyday life and don't use social media as your standard.

Great video! The amount of self-reflection I was able to obtain, i am very grateful! A dynamic conversation but way deeper than surface levels. I mean, there was something weird that i was just being lifted up by the back and forth. Tom i like how this channel always is elevating my Conscious.

At that 20 mins mark Justin said something that I have always had an issue with in my life. I'm not a yeller but if I am talking about something that I am passionate about I can get fired up but that does not mean that I am yelling. There are so many people that are unable to tell the difference so I end up just not talking to many people. Not because I don't want to but because being stoic in my interactions means that I have detached myself from the topic at hand and have started to view it from a neutral observers perspective. which can come off as cold and insensitive.

Jwaller is REALLY helping these young men out here.He's actively trying to give them guidance, support & make them money/be successful well rounded men! So much Love, SUPPORT, PRAYERS, Respect, and Positive Vibes Justin!! 💥🔥🔥🔥

One hundred percent right being the best man you can and not chase woman

Justin Waller is the man that I would have loved as a father or an older brother. The man has no equal and is exactly what we need as young men.

This sit down was a prime example of Theory vs Practical, justin being practical the arguements this guy is having is in my experience, not relatable but i dont have the findings to say he was wrong but every single thing justin say i can relate 110%

This is one of my all time favorite interv iews/podcast. Tom Bilyeu is a masterful interviewer. Both intelligent thoughtful men who may disagree seeking to learn and express eachothers reasoning.

Civil grown up debate without emotion fuelled conflict although there were differences of opinion. Some of which could have been taken quite personally. Brilliant to see. Great episode. Respect to both gents.

Great video...Tom hit it on the head about the social media influence on relationships and the screwed up dating scene

I love that Justin is still humble to admit that he does not know it all even in the position he is in ! Maybe that s part of what got him where he is ! May I never grow so entitled that I cannot admit wrong doings or that do not know it all !

This was fascinating to listen to. So many of my initial judgements disappeared. What a great lesson to have learned this afternoon. Thank you both for your honesty and real truth. This beautiful interaction was informative and uplifting. ❤

Awww… the smile Waller makes when he says he enjoys spending time with his girls. I only have sons, I wonder how it feels to have a daughter. I wonder if Waller has any boys? And how he would speak about them. Having children is the best feeling in the world!!!

These gents are both incredible. If more leaders could have respectful discourse like this, the world would be a better place.

I worked for Tom and met Lisa and I know for a fact he is a genius, genuine and overall good human being. He is who he is and he only will continue to evolve and I truly hope he becomes the next Walt Disney because I believe that he can save and inspire the next generations of kids growing up. ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

Masterfully-navigated interview Tom, great work.

They’re not trapped Tom, it’s the hardware, no matter what firmware progress you lay into the hardware the hardware drives the hypergamy.

I love this interview so much, thanks @tombilyeu and @justinwaller for your honesty, as a femenine monogamous woman I appreciate an honest guy that respectfully and calmly stands for what he believes instead of choosing living a hidden life. I really admire your brotherhood with Andrew and Tristan; say hi to them for me please. Honor, loyalty, integrity makes me admire and respect discipline men immensely because i know I'm protected and I can trust them. Keep guiding young guys to be men of value, and they will decide if they want to be monogamous or not when ready. I am a strong confident, sharp woman raised during this twisted gender role era, that realized very early that putting men down- feminizing them, and masculinizing women was not working at all. I wanted a strong loving masculine man in intelligent control that allowed me to be in my powerful feminine being and that can lower my attitude based in reactionary fellings when need it. It was challenging but so attractive and admiring. I didn't enjoy being masculine anymore and micro controlling everything...didn't feel right inside. It's not a competition, men and women complement each other. We women can do male roles...easily, we are amazing, but, we are not wired to do it, our levels of testosterone are way lower and we decay and age faster when hustling like a man. Our internal rhythms are completely different. On the other hand, men can stay at home yes, but after a while they feel emasculated. After 15 years of being a Relashionship Coach and listening to them, that was the #1 irreconcilable issue. I personally love being a mom, my kids are the most beautiful meaning in my life and they are being raised to be critical thinkers, succesful loving integral, kind human beings, while I have an online business that I enjoy creating and growing while guiding my clients as a relationship coach to honor gender roles and cherishing their partners to bring back strong families and society