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Tweaks and good practices 

Paul McGowan, PS Audio
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Tweaks and Good practices are something we often pay lip service to but don't always take the time to understand them and make them work to our advantage. Paul takes the time to speak of audiophiles sprays, goos, tweaks, blocks, and stones and offers his advice on their use. Pulled from the archives of A Walk With Paul, this oldie but goodie will surprise some and horrify others.

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29 авг 2024

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@vdfsamba
@vdfsamba 6 лет назад
Nice addition to the conversation. This is a love of incrumentalism. Like most, my speakers are either side of my components on a stereo rack and, imaging has always been a problem within the room. ( my system is on u-tube under my name). My set up is roughly a 1 1/2ft back from the front of the speakers. For a time, I had an extra set of my Dad's speakers sitting on the floor directly in front of my components. I kept hearing a hole in the sound and spent a lot of time moving my floor speakers around trying to rectify that sound. On a whim, I moved my Dad's speakers sitting in front of the stereo rack away... the hole was gone. I'm not smart enough to understand all the issues that go into what I'm hearing, but my Dad was a big proponant of K.I.S.S.- keep it simple stupid... These are all good videos and really appreciated.
@ChannelyMcChannelChan
@ChannelyMcChannelChan 6 лет назад
I'm very interested in best practices. Looking forward to hearing more of those. Happy new year everyone!
@williamlau7179
@williamlau7179 4 года назад
Hi Paul, you are really good and you belong to the very nature, blended as one. Your mind in the "forest" is so clear and sharp and natural, best talking with honesty, admiring you talk while walking the track you can focus your mind (I would tripped or slipped). Unlike in your office, it is a bit hesitating. Agreed with you, tweats are for fun (some are very useful, like avoiding electrical and mechanical interferences, the complex room accoustic treatment.) Joined a few audio forums for learning purposes, noticed that the good ones are finally be back to basis, not those who treating for "life" to get the best and always the best. Those good ones are always saying now it's time to enjoying the music, until time comes again long from now.
@sidvicious3129
@sidvicious3129 6 лет назад
Paul this is excellent. I believe in setting your speakers up first with the system and dialing them in and voicing them first in that room, because a living room can sound totally different than a bedroom or a basement based on room dimensions. I then add Acoustic Equipment a little at a time, finding the first reflection points and clearing up the back walls with either diffusers or acoustic materials and possible bass traps. Work your way into the room and add acoustic treatment as needed or if possible to your room, like back walls and ceiling (if possible because some people have their systems set up in the living room so not always possible WAF). Get a stable rack to put your system on, not the most expensive rack, but a good rack and make sure that rack is leveled. If you are using a turntable, like you said Paul, make sure it's leveled and test that table on the rack by tapping on it and if you hear vibration coming through the speakers through it or the rack that you tap on, it's not properly isolated. You can add a butchers block or isolation pads that you can get for $20.00 on the feet of the turntable to isolate the table. Every thing else after this is done a little at a time to evaluate if, it makes a difference or not, power conditioners, cables, power cords or the like are only added after the fact if at all. Find a good local dealer or good online store with a good return policy so that you can try this stuff and if you don't like it return it. Don't buy cables to fix a speaker, amplifier or preamp problem, fix that stuff first. I have been blessed to have a great local dealer that has allowed me to try things and some of the items were great and some made no difference at all, but I learned this from experiencing it myself, not from listening to someone else and calling it snake oil. I have bought things online that haven't worked out and I had no problem paying for shipping because, the knowledge I acquired was priceless and could never be taken from me. If I'm every asked, I can say I tried it and it didn't meet what the manufacturer said. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to try everything or could afford to try everything, but try to keep an open mind. It's super easy to call things, snake oil, when you have no experience with the items at all or you are using what someone else has said. The only way to know if something is snake oil for you is to try it in your own system, in your acoustical environment, then you can say, it's snake oil for you, but what might not work for you might work in someone else's room just find or not. I believe in a minimal approach first. I have had many an engineers being proven wrong by my dealer, that had to later put their foot in their mouth by foolish things that they have said and I have seen some of the same engineers, pull out their wallets and pay far more than I would have thought to pay for certain, "Snake Oil" items that they raved over later.
@snakeman4807
@snakeman4807 6 лет назад
what a man... love him...happy new year
@lewbarrett
@lewbarrett 6 лет назад
Because you're a gentleman you went too easy on the myrtle blocks and magic dots. Still, it's a pleasure to watch you gently clear the path. Enjoyable video!
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
But he is right, Mpinga wood and the like do do something, it's just a matter of what they do do and realizing, as Paul says, that it's better to fix the problem for real than use a few blocks of wood to mask it.
@EddyTeetree
@EddyTeetree 5 лет назад
Mr Poo?😂
@AliBekirKlckaya
@AliBekirKlckaya 6 лет назад
Very nice happy day with happy attitude to people! Very nice man :D
@audiogurulyndon
@audiogurulyndon 6 лет назад
Good Stuff as we all know it...Thanks! I'm sure there are "snakes" as you walked through the Trails Lol!
@remusicplayer4145
@remusicplayer4145 6 лет назад
Happy New Year, and keep rocking, Paul!
@michaeljohnbrown6367
@michaeljohnbrown6367 3 года назад
Love yur show watch them all I'm learning a lot about DSD I have valve preamp and power amp brand is leak
@blech71
@blech71 6 лет назад
Same goes for modifying cars. We make one change and dyno to check for gains/losses. Throwing a bunch of parts at a car is horrible making for a huge list of variables to check instead of one at a time. Sure it takes time but we see how all the pieces work in concert to yield the best/most gains. Looks like this approach works well in audio as well.
@ohjoy40
@ohjoy40 4 года назад
First thing to understand there are tweeks and then there are mods. Each is different. The thing you touch on and is very important for everyone to know, is pretty much everything you do or put in a high end audio system will make a difference in the sound of a system. The question is, is it improving the sound or just altering it. This is what can be the challenge for those who dont have years of experience in setup of high end music systems. Designing and calibrating a system is very complex and takes someone with years of experience to do it properly. You first have to choose speakers and equipment that work well together both electrically and then sonically. Then its taking the time to calibrate it well. Speaker placement is the single most important part of setting up a system. Without it you will not get good sound no matter how good the equipment and speakers. Once it is setup and calibrated then you address room acoustics, and not before speakers are positioned. YOU CANNOT position speakers with room treatment in the room ! Start with a blank slate and when you have speakers correctly positioned you will notice you do not hear issues with the room. But then you can "strategically and carefully" place room treatment to fine tune the overall sound. But do not go into this aspect of acoustical treatment thinking you want a dead room. You want a live room, you just want it to be controlled. A slight delay in the ambient decay of around 1 to 1.5 seconds. Then after all that is done, YES you can play with tweeks or make mods on your system. Tweeks are typically devices or potions that can be added to the system. Where mods are typically changes in the speakers and equipment it self. Anyway all tweeks or mods should be done with caution and trail and error to see if its improving the sound or just altering it to mask shortcomings in the system.
@1florinzamfir
@1florinzamfir 3 года назад
In this video, Paul talked about a future video dedicated to "good practice" subject, but I can not find this particular dedicated video about "good practice". If that video exist, can I receive a link to it?
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 6 лет назад
Vibration protection on a DAC ), yep dont want to shake those electrons!
@AALavdas
@AALavdas 4 года назад
Well, there could be microphonic effects on some components - say, capacitors, no?
@suzesiviter6083
@suzesiviter6083 4 года назад
@@AALavdas With good quality components that's unlikely, you could argue about plate vibration but the electrolytic sandwich is packed in there with very tight tolerances, the most likely candidate to move would be coils-but those should be also wound tight/glued, transformers shouldn't really count as they should be regulated anyway putting any such noises well below the noise floor. Like any discussion like this, yes vibration causes noise-then its just a discussion to how much and whether its enough to effect the sound, having worked in audio for years I do not believe vibration would cause audiable distortion on DACs/ADCs - that is not if they are using quality inductors and capacitors.
@jeffhunter4395
@jeffhunter4395 6 лет назад
Addressing the problem vs a tweek to me is something that I can do (cheaper)until I can afford to address/upgrade the issue/problem.ie: my $100.00 speaker cables I would use wooden blocks,but a $5,000.00 set of speaker cables SHOULDN'T require the tweek of wooden blocks and so on.Thxs for all your insight in trying to inform us.
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
Untrue logic. The price and construction of a speaker cable has nothing to do with the ground field a cement floor can generate, the only way to have that not affect the signal is to move the cable out of the ground field.
@MrDanoman812
@MrDanoman812 6 лет назад
Diffusion and absorption is the answer... but, ONLY if done properly. Every room leaves it's signature within' the music so, tune the room to the speakers FIRST then go from there after all the other initial things that Paul speaks of would be my best opinion.
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia 6 лет назад
Thanks for the advice. In what way does keeping your speaker cables raised from the floor improve the sound and will it work on low to mid-range products?
@NoMoreRadioMyths
@NoMoreRadioMyths 6 лет назад
I've had much the same experience as a life long audiophile. Just stick to the basics, like good speaker placement and good amplification and good cables and be done with it.
@gigar9000
@gigar9000 6 лет назад
Those magic dots, are they the ASI Sugar Cubes? Really boggles my mind why people would think something so small, the size smaller than an actual sugar cube, make any difference to the sound. I have done a trial with a pack of 10, but I could not hear any difference. The dealer recommended I add on other tweaky stuff from ASI, and the cost can pile up quickly. These small tweaks are very expensive.
@esotericaudiophile3884
@esotericaudiophile3884 6 лет назад
Single wire ground conditioner boxes make huge improvements! I made several and validated, I use them on every device! (my technology)... Oh.. its not snake oil :) I want Paul to make my technology part of PS Audio! hehehe!
@bobbykingma4109
@bobbykingma4109 6 лет назад
When you listen to your audio system you listen to all the different properties of each individual part in your system, the acoustics and other parts who limit the sound and stage. This means you need a lot of information to be able to understand why the stage and sound of your audiosystem is what you hear. And that is why the world wide used way of trail and error is so ineffective. Because you cannot control and guide any audiosystem by trial and error. Based on the fact that you don't understand what you are doing. We work by Tru-Fi. Tru-Fi contains all the different properties of sound. When you want to reveal all the information and the emotion of a recording you need an audiosystem what van reveal all the different parts of sound and layers of the recording. But....when you test (I have done thousands of tests in almost 20 years) many audio products the facts prove that most products are incomplete and miss essential parts of sound. What is missing can never be revealed. We humans can reveal sound in a 3D perspective. But.....most audio products are 2-dimensional based on facts. When you test products on a system and loudspeakers who can create a stunning level in 3D stage most products proof over and over again that the stage depth is less than 1 metre. In out world we call this 2D. The most important part what creates for the biggest part emotion during listening to music is diversity (layering) in sound. But....when we test many products on this part we hear that many are only able to create a limited level of diversity in sound. Tweak will not help you solving all these limitations. Based on the fact that products you use are incomplete on facts. When you are able to think and work by properties, you can create a level and quality what is superior in realism and emotion compared to any created trial and error system. It is that easy!
@chefchutardo5215
@chefchutardo5215 6 лет назад
Would be nice to have a website that would guide us with all the things you mentioned. The how's and why's. Like keeping cables offf the ground, wooden blocks ? And.a whole bunch of stuff you mentioned. I have a great setup, bit the sound suck's and i cant figure out why.
@amb3cog
@amb3cog 6 лет назад
Francois Pizzardi There are people you can pay to set up your room properly. But I recommend getting on some audio forums, and reading/asking questions. I don't know where you are, or what language you prefer to communicate in. But here in the US we have quite a few good ones, with very helpful people on them. AudioCircle/AudioAsylum/AudioKarma/DIYaudio/Audiogon are a few of them. Good luck.
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
I was in your shoes for, literally, decades until I decided to fix the room instead of buying more new gear. It is very complex on account of you have to fix everything... setup of gear and speakers, room acoustics, fix/kill the room modes, cables.... every detail. But to start... decide on what kind of absorber panels you want to make or buy and treat the first reflection wall areas. Then work on the room modes with bass traps, which is the single hardest thing to do. It will help a lot to have a calibrated measuring system so you can see the results of your efforts (I have a measuring mic I got for about 25$ from parts express and use REW software.). After doing those things you should see massive improvement and critical listening would/will lead you an endless list of things to sort out via acoustic treatment. The more you do/refine it the better the sound gets. I thought I had my room great and was done with the work many many times and then a new thing to sort pops up... I thought I really really really had it all sorted for the last few weeks and then last night I tried something just as an experiment and it ended up being a big improvement.... One last thing, you have to use your ears to listen to the tonality of your changes to make sure everything you do leaves the sound balanced and sounding right.
@Geerladenlad
@Geerladenlad 6 лет назад
Sounds like to me if at all possible put the equipment in a isolated separate room.
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 6 лет назад
Hi Paul a comment you made about keeping cables off the floor, do you mean all cables like interconnects and speaker cables or just one or the other, what is the purpose by doing this? very curious
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
All of them if possible, speaker cables especially. In my case the building is concrete and the system is on the base floor which turned out to be like a giant ground field that seriously deadened the signal coming through the speaker wires, just elevating the wire with simple pine wood structures I made from scraps in my shop ended up being the single biggest sound fix among a 1000 fixes I've done. It was like there was a wet blanket over the sound and someone just removed it... So for me, that was the reason and the result.
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 года назад
We need to put the earth on spikes to remove all the vibration for every system. Start with the root cause ;-)
@paulhovenga4138
@paulhovenga4138 4 года назад
Put a nice GoPro on and show us the beautiful country you are walking around in. We can hear you talk :)
@ryaneickmeyer6191
@ryaneickmeyer6191 4 года назад
Paul, don't ie you were the one making all those bird calls
@nuancepill8066
@nuancepill8066 6 лет назад
whats the best way to get sound to come from behind the speakers instead of from them?
@pandstar
@pandstar 6 лет назад
It depends a on the speakers. Speaking in general terms, speakers should be about 3 feet from the front wall (the wall behind the speakers) and away from the side walls. The distance between the speakers should be a little less than your listening distance. And you should play around a bit with the amount of tow in. That being said, there are some speakers that may not be capable of a good soundstage and imaging. There are a lot of helpful youtube videos.
@ryanray6215
@ryanray6215 6 лет назад
How about turn them 180 degrees ?
@z1522
@z1522 6 лет назад
Aha, I knew I recognized good old Fountain rocks, but it looks way too lush for the Front Range; after the floods, or just a wet spring? I have been enamored with quality audio for decades, but found way too much intermingling with the voodoo akin to high-end automotive indulgences, and marketing suspiciously determined to separate the insecure wealthy from their funds, purely to peacock within their class system. Setup involves using confirmed principles of spacing, stabilizing, grounding, and acoustic testing to make things point the right way, catch polarity errors, feedback, hum, excessive room reflections, dead areas, really basics. Then, with test recordings etc. tune for balance, listening preferences, and you should be ready to play music without need for much more, unless or until you actually hear some issue, rather than imagine one. Tweaking basically represents the last point in the continuum, where no matter how elite the system, the owner cannot trust the experts, or even his ears, and so is vulnerable to any new exotic ploy hatched by clever types. Musicality can be faithfully reproduced for a few hundred dollars, most towards the speakers; then, adequate amplification and decent playback of the source (the cheapest quality from CD players, sorry vinyl lovers) and you're done. Streaming audio especially via computer may never justify more expensive equipment. We humans get used to what we have, and it is amazing how we can appreciate music even through tiny earplugs that have no bass, and no soundstage, or old mono AM car radios while mentally ignoring 90dB road noise at 70 mph.
@HowDareYouu
@HowDareYouu 6 лет назад
yea, get rid also of the exotic power cables
@Geerladenlad
@Geerladenlad 6 лет назад
i raul If you have a low resolving system absolutely.
@Geerladenlad
@Geerladenlad 6 лет назад
3en6ie 3en6ie You probably don't believe power conditioners don't work either.
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
Yeah, just use the ones that come with your gear and tape them around your audio signal cables, that should be aces... (I'm being sarcastic. You simply have zero clue about power cables and what good ones address.)
@silentdrive3243
@silentdrive3243 6 лет назад
The industry relies on high-end audio files to buy high-end products to thrive even if they need them or not. I think what the problem is is a lot of audio files look at this as status quo which is one of the bigger issues. Audio gear is audio gear at the end of the day if it produces sound and you enjoy it then you doing something right. We all wish we could afford the high-end stuff and have fun with it but most of us can't. But again the industry relies on people like this just to buy all the new toys if they need them or not.
@bobbykingma4109
@bobbykingma4109 6 лет назад
The word highend has no meaning. Baed on the fact that many use the word. Even cheap 2-dimensional products use thr word. Audio needs parameters so it becomes more clear and honest how sound and music shouls sound. And how voices and instruments shoule be projected into space. Most audio systems even at Highend Munic were 2-dimensional. When you are not able to reveal music in a 3-dimensional stage you are not allowed to use the word highend. The same counts for all the systems whio are not able to reveal the layers in sound. You need these harmonics to be able to experience the emotion of the musis. The emotion is inside the music and recording. That is why you need an audiosystem what can reveal all the information and layers of a recording. Most products and systems are not even able to reveal it. That us why we often call the word 'highend" lowend. Based on the fact that the word has no meaning and does not garantee you anything.
@dr.zoidberg4313
@dr.zoidberg4313 6 лет назад
Chapter 6. Assisting Mr Pooh.
@Intensecure
@Intensecure 6 лет назад
Dr. Zoidberg now working for Schiit Audio...👍😁
@silentdrive3243
@silentdrive3243 6 лет назад
Are those people are pretty rude. I don't care if you're screaming down the trailer or not that's your prerogative to do so LOL annoying people. I can't stand people like that
@NNITRED
@NNITRED 6 лет назад
Tweaky stuff?.....This from a guy that sells a $1000 AC cord.
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
For sure you should prove Paul wrong, just wrap all your cables into a bundle and then wrap all the power cables around that bundle and I'm sure you will have the best sound ever and Paul will be proven wrong.
@Taffy84
@Taffy84 6 лет назад
Another term for tweaks is snake oil.
@Intensecure
@Intensecure 6 лет назад
Paul McGowan perhaps you could elaborate on that on a future episode, because of all the magic rocks, anti-magnetic loam filled boxes, marker pens, infrared stickers and assorted stuff designed purely to extract money from the ignorant, nothing has ever passed double blind testing and been proven efficacious. Nothing, nada, zilch.
@bc527c
@bc527c 5 лет назад
And a term of people who use the term snake oil is closed minded. Now don't get me wrong, I am not endorsing every manner of tweek out there, but just dismissing everything you know nothing about and haven't experienced first hand as snake oil is just being willfully uninformed.
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