I swear I've tried ten times and I can not get the continue ending to work. Is it timing, is there a certain order you have to do the endings in? What am I doing wrong I clicked on the book at the time in should in the video.
Telling the wife that you're her brother and her dad murderer, then proceeding to eat desert, then keep trying to interact with her, just having the husband go "Babe?Babe? Babe? Babe? Babe?" is so fucking funny to me.
For some reason, mindfulness to me is the true ending. Its down right bone chilling and a great finisher to everything we seen and experienced. Also with Willem Dafoe narrating is so much better. Lastly, its like the lesson of the game, dont carry on unhealthy mindlessness and learn to set things free.
I like to think of the loops as him just always having "what if's" in his head over and over again about what he did, even though he knows that it won't change anything. It happened, and it can't be rewritten or forgotten. It will always be with him. That's just how life works.
Actually no, he just went insane imagining all those outcomes with his sister, he never even was married to her to begin with, it’s all in his imagination
The game is very artistic and I get what they are going for... But hot *damn* I feel like death is too good for the shitty dad. Everything is his fault. *Everything* stems from his infidelity and he has the motherfucking ABSOLUTE GALL to call the son 'radioactive' like he spontaneously came into being on his own with no influence on pops' part and ruined everything intentionally. That guy deserves to suffer more for being such a shitheel.
Really hate their dad. Clearly, he can't change the past so he's messing up with the man's head, making him live the same loop, and leading him to choices so he can convince him to leave his half-sister. That's why it's either you end the game with "Mindfulness" or "Continue" (continuing with time loop or not, forgetting through hypnosis or realizing after that endless ass-therapy to let go of your wife).
Letting your sister go has always been the right choice. Dont think she wouldve wanted her brother considering you were the one that led to her mother and her family's downward spiral.
@@angela.luntian Yeah but calling the protagonist a monster by his half-sister's mother? As if he asked to be born. Their father is the one who screwed up. The game became really sad from recovering all the suppressed memories.
@@thidderreal honestly, I think it’s because of him killing his father. The endings are decently confusing even after seeing it multiple times so I would assume it’s the murder of his father
@@neurotypicaljotchua8726 Actually it’s not hard to understand the story at all, basically it’s about the Husbro going insane imagining these outcomes/loops with his sister because he wants to be in a perfect future with her, but in the end, the only loop that works is him leaving his sister
The second half of this game was so frustrating to me. The premise is incredible, and up until The Twist everything felt so natural and well done. The story felt perfect after they managed to befriend the ‘cop’ and agreed to give him the watch. They designed it to feel like a good ending. But having him ~secretly be the brother~ who was repressing the memories of murdering his own father and marrying his sister? So unsatisfying. If you like it, that’s fine. But personally, I think they should’ve cut the brother twist and let the husband be an innocent bystander in everything. That’s my personal ending.
I kinda see it as being intentionally unsatisfying, I was kinda confused why he didn't remember but they do have a good enough explanation, at least for a fictional story. I do really get why people would want it to end after the first half, though I do still feel like it adds instead of detracts.
Most of the game isn't real anyway. It's his imagination getting crashed by reality. That's how the latter part of the game holds up. Not a fan of the storyline at that point but it is well-done. I would have preferred if there actually was some supernatural force but it did the "it was a dreaaaam" twist pretty well
It would've felt like other things we've seen before. Don't get me wrong, the way you're seeing it is also very good and indeed it would've left the players satisfied. Obviously the twist is disturbing and gives you a bad taste in the mouth when you get to it, but I honestly can appreciate that they went for it! And without that tbh, the Sci-Fi, psychological elements of the game would have seemed less complex. And I do love me some complexity in those type of stories, ngl. I've never seen a TV show or a movie of this sort of genre take the direction that this game took. It was very interesting to see it done and while I can't speak for everyone, obviously, I think the storyline was great for what it was.
I kinda agree on how it felt really unsatisfying because you spend so much time learning about the 'cop' and his daughter, your wife 'murdering' her father, and then the "oh yeah I'm your half-brother and actually killed our father" kinda just didn't _good_ like all that time and desperation (trying to save yourself and your wife) was burned away by the truth. Yes, it makes the story _better_ and more bittersweet but better doesn't always mean satisfying. Also, it might just be because I personally run into it more often (because I read/watch a lot of Asian (Which ones? Yes.) movies/stories) but to me, the reveal that the spouce was actually their sibling felt overdone. Not sure how common it is in well "western" media cause it might just be me but meh. Sidenote: Both situations _could_ have been their own stories in their own right. Exploring a direction where you are straight up the brother but not knowing about it and not knowing about your sister but you're off to start your own life and end up marrying said sister unknowing to the both of you could have been neat (seen this one in some eastern stuff, is as weird as it sounds). Exploring a separate direction where you're just a normal guy trying to start your family when a macguffin restarts your day in 10 minute increments while you try to save your wife from being killed by her past revisiting her is also another interesting direction. Doing both... kinda felt meh? For other people the sibling twist might be new because... well I don't actually see it very often if at all in western media but for me I see it more often than most so the twist is ehh. The its a dream twist + Sibling twist just didn't feel good because they're both twists I personally dislike. (Sorry for the long/late reply lmaooo.....)
God damn it, it's cousins here! Alabama is the heart of the South so everything gets shoved off on us. Siblings is for backwater Mississippi trash. Here, three away and it's okay.
So the endings are Go back and live alone Go back and forget and repeat the same things that already happened and live in a endless loop unknowingly Or maybe it’s only one ending which is the second I mentioned Huh, kinda disappointing but it is what it is, good game none the less
Wait, there's one missing. If you haven't found out you're her brother yet BUT now, her brother killed her dad, you can talk to the cop about it and have a "happy ending"
yeah, I noticed that too, when you prove she innocent and give the cop the watch but you don't know your her brother. that's the nicest ending I think.
Nice to see you Upload again. Also, Time loop stories are always fun since the writer (or dev) gets to play around a lot more especially when we have to interact with the story.
Am I the only one who hated all endings? I don't care that he is her half brother. Both didn't know. And he killed him, yes, but it was self defense. I played this game for hours and only thing I saw was a loving husband trying to save her no matter what, forgiving all her flaws and wanting to raise their baby right. I feel so bad for the main character. I wanna happy ending for him, not just forgetting for 8 years and then doing it all over and over again. I know that I'm minority here but he deserved better. And that cop and his daughter? It's totally loop. She is a younger wife and that man is that father
Fax bruh, my thoughts exactly, she was over here begging you to forgive her and let things be normal but you confessed and she was immediately against you
What's worst about all of this is that story and everything around it and thoughts that went into it are great. But execution is not good at all. A lot of times it comes to just trying anything to get different responses and once you get to the ending you're just glad it's over. And you're confused on top of that. After watching this I appreciate the game more, but I still think it could have been executed better. Maybe in a different form altogether (not a game).
@@Beno951 Honestly I actually think that the way it works is fun, but you wouldnt like it if you didnt like learning details and puzzle solvong. I think for sure there could be some changes in areas with a few less pieces of dialogue that dont go anywhere, but at the same time those pieces of info are nice just to sorta show that not everything leads to something, sort of like character building to show the reactions the characters would have, important or not.
@@sick4127 Okay so Mindfulness physically removes the "Continue" button. It also reveals that the "time loop" and it's different outcomes are in reality a series of daydreams/delusions. Every event that isn't the last office scene with your father is fake. "Alone" and the cop are your subconscious fighting back your daydreams and trying to tell you that staying with her would be wrong. For obvious reasons. That's why the cop is played by the same actor as the father. I'm sparing you the whole explanation on that. You could argue that "Alone" would be similar to the aftermath of "Mindfulness" but it isn't exactly the "Alone" ending: the player is now "dreaming" about what would happen if he went along with the father. He can go back to reality and go back to the timeloop/daydream about his fantasy life with his sister. He hasn't really moved on and made up his mind yet. I'd say that after "Mindfulness" either his memory does get wiped or he finally leaves and moves on (ie: he won't move into his dream apartment because he associated it with his sister). Basically in "Mindfulness" the main character abandons his delusions and don't stay with his (possibly pregnant) sister. He can only go back if an outside force "strongarms" the clock. YOU are making the choice to keep playing the game when he chose to end it. You aren't continuing the story. You're going back in time in the in-universe reality, not just the delusions. The lack of "Continue" and the reveal of what the time loop really is are the strongest indicators that this is the "true"/final ending. The game probably still has a way to go back because some players will achieve that one before the other endings so they need to be able to reach them too. Also soft-locking the game isn't preferable. So they hid the button to make the point come across.
@@nuages8915 but didn't the cop say the father was recovering from the wound? Wasn't he murdered like 1 week after? This only makes sense if you interpret this as nonsense dreams elicited by the father on the teenager.
Man what a shame. I finished the game and came here to see if I missed anything but no.... such a shame it's all just hypnosis. wtf. btw - the 2 minutes. Are these in his head or in the past? 2 fathers are ... the same person? And why do they talk about child 8 years in the past if they have a child now
Basically everything you play is irrelevant and in the protagonists head and the beginning/ending is just you in the chair talking to the dad that just told you that your wife is your sister and you just pick if you want to be alone and leave her or forget and get hypnotized and just continue on a incest marriage with your half sister. That's pretty much it. Sucks that everything leading up to the end figuring out the mystery is suddenly stopped and goes nowhere and becomes meaningless except to just take it as the main character having a hard time to comes to term with the Dad letting him know he's married to his sister.
@@HiCZoK at the point in time that the father is telling him that their half brother and sister they are already in a relationship we don't know when exactly they met unless you take what he said in his mind or whatever when the wife said that she meant him not long after shooting her dad but even so that whole scenario is made up in his mind so it's not real lol it gets confusing a bit.
@@velocity1154 I think the one where the dad gets shot is what actually happened and the one where the dad comforts him and hypnotises him is in his imagination. I think he just suppressed his memories.
I'm thinking not even the hypnosis is real.. its all in his head.. as the clock lines up to show " a seed, a man a tree and hten the sky. It really look slike Buddha, under the tree and stayed silent.. and eventually achieved enlightenment. I think the point is only he can free himself from his own guilt. I don't think there was a incest thing.. ( plant a seed)..
There are 3 different versions where he kills his dad has a baby with his sister Doesn’t kill his sister and never move in that apartment And the game we play
All the things they make you go through to get to the ending for these six options. It’s so underwhelming and disappointing. Arguably they could’ve made a story where the wife forgave him and they had the kid. That’d be 10x more fucked up but the gamer gets to experience all outcomes. Then there’s no room for complaint
Wait is all of this in his head? Is it all actually happening in the room where he is younger with all the books. Is he just dreaming all of the possibilities or something. Tbh I'm just guessing randomly
I could not for the life of me figure out when tf she supposedly killed her dad and how he ended up actually dying a week later. Like daddio was just up and good interrogating people after being shot a week ago? Girl was already pregnant? Like? How old are these people? I thought she was a child when she shot her father and then all the sudden they are adults and the dad knows everything I’m like huh? It made it all worse that the cop and the father are the same voice im like the cop is her dad ?!? Confusing as shit but I’m also just dumb 😂
Another thing I love about this game the format being a lil square box(which most of us live in depends on any room) idk I heard this analogy in school once that we get into a box(car/bus/train mostly) to go to school/wok a bigger box to come back home another box kinda like watching a film noir movie and the aerial view as we are the controllers of their life and the view is a puppet show
3:34 this guy was expecting people to come after him? Originally I thought this guy always just slept in the closet, waiting to land a surprise attack on potential enemies, like a true Sigma.
There's also a "Listen" ending where if you just do nothing and she eventually opens up about her past and wants to talk to you about it, along with grabbing the watch from the vent before taking you with her out the apartment. I suppose time rewinds again because of a short scene at the clock afterwards where it goes counter clockwise but I don't know, it didn't really show you reappear in the doorway when you left so I figured that could be one of the endings since it takes you back to the starting menu, but there were no credits to signify if it was a legitimate ending or not. It's certainly not an ending you would expect from a game like this but if you're one of the soft gamers who want to make things as safe as possible for the protagonist without ruining the relationship with your... sister, then this might be the closest thing you could get to that without anything bad happening.
The symbolism of the pocket watch being the instigator belonging to the father is so clever the end all or be all of this story the wife hiding it, the three golden rings representing his life full circle all these characters and us gaining more insight, the imagery of time rewinding to create the loop and it costing a fortune shows the importance of ur actions decisions in this time loop or we could your life
‘You fucked up your life. Do better’ - the cop is so funny cuz after we find out his motive for revenge thinking the wife killed the father but also to steal the watch to save his dying daughter. 2 wrongs don’t make a right cop ends up being a murderer for the cost of saving his daughter but also guiding truth from her .. Also I saw some1 else point out how the father wants to blame the mom suffering or sum on him yet he is responsible for our main character coming into the world n not letting his daughter know too
Oh wow the big reveal of them having a baby n them saying it will be so loved cuz they do have a good relationship (also the father had hurt them both with the cheating n abuse) so the way he was adamant on this connection to her and dancing as the cop is outside talking to his own daughter after promising he won’t hurt anyone for her that overlap must be on purpose to have these vents play out in 12ish minutes
‘It’s only by forgetting that we ever really drop the thread of time and approach the experience of living in the present moment’ I think this quote shows the half siblings connection to eo n the dad but also seen in how 1) the dad doesn’t tell the daughter about her sibling 2) the wife lies to her husband about her past how she shot her dad thinking she killed him n hiding that watch she reads that book so she uses the quote in this manner ig 3) the husband ‘forgets’ the conversation with the dad n that he knew they’re siblings cuz the trauma shooting n killin his dad caused him 4) the cop assumes the daughter killed the dad (his friend? Who helped him a lot how he saw him as a good person) even though she wasn’t there at that time yet tracks her down cuz of the watch to save his own daughter n avenge the friend ig This time loop n that pocket watch kinda unlocks all this the thread of time forgetting the past which u have to come to terms with to live fulfilling life in its fullest in the present
So in wat are 12 min for him us it can be hours it shows importance of the living in the present the thread of time which is the past and future shouldn’t be so obsessed over which the mc was doing with his crazy imagination n the dad tells him it’s harmful everything rlly boiled up to wat they do in the present moment each action matters
1 second ago The quote is from a book about the relationship between plants and humans Does his father hypnotize him into forgetting his love but when he kills him he forgets by the murder but still loves her That piece of knowledge that when we didn’t know they just seems like a happy couple n his father advice to break the relationship n he says maybe a world where he doesn’t exist for her or he leaves and she doesn’t get to know why
@@darkover0620 So you have to first do the "wife is innocent" and then the tell Bumbebee everything line and you confront the Cop. Once that happens you should be able to choose it next time you call. It MIGHT require you to have met "The Father" but I'm not 100%
@@VideoGameSophistry the wife let’s him in he confronts her about calling his daughter cuffs her and punches me am I suppose to listen to them talk while I’m cuffed cause I got up so he could punch to reset the loop again
So funny when you find the pocket watch, hide in the closet, see her getting arrested and then clicking on wife, dude's like 'Nah' naaah nah, that was good ! xD
I believe that's intentional to show that even the father was not real, and he created it all in his head just like the father cop who loved bumblebee, so is the father of player's wife. I believe mindfulness is the real ending with the player being obsessed with "his wife" and so he created this entire fantasy of what if in his head.
This wasnt a game for me it was a like a real thing for me experiencing and exploring new things its truly a masterpiece need a movie on this and need more games like this ❤️
All his reactions after the time loop restarts the watch kinda forcing him to do the ‘right thing’ Reminded me of the movie memento where the story is told in reverse those decisions impact on how the writers want the viewers to leave with a message or impact n connect with the character just like in this game we control actions or game life is strange one where the mc has power to rewind time n it effects the future I like those themes with memory and time a lot The watch being hidden like both of their truths him forgetting his due to trauma of killin his dad her seein red n leaving the day she shot him too guilty she killed him then them in the present finding out the full truth was so insane wat may have caused this curse maybe on him
It just makes me think about life if u messed up n u could go back The father in the time loop story doesn’t rlly seem to care bout the kids but our mc existing killed his wife n his mother too so this two timing man cares about moral for wat the kids do then but says feel whatever idc yet did he know the impact of him havin the affair with nanny had on his daughter tho Mixed signals
Use of games with stories like that are amazing for lessons or tools for creators to express something amazing their motives like I think of happys humble burger farm the story that unfolds about who the player we control in the game is the clever use of portraying the stimulation in that manner glitches n all doin those missions when we find out that job is just mundane aspect of assimilation a human into virtual world is crazy
So in the other dialogue he does have regret for what he did for his daughter n gives guidance to the son that scene surrounded in the library books all around which he prob reads maybe he’s a psychiatrist or counselor hm I think the books are reflected in the watch too meaning u have to find the connection with red book n the quote for the mindfulness of the game n life
And the game ‘Martha is dead’ I don’t wanna spoil but the human mind is capable of mixing up memories was this all really our mc imagination what bits are the truth and others fake
Im at that point, searching the name of the nanny. Edit: theres some ending i haven't done like groundhog i might to that one to get the name and then in the next loop i think i can end it but theres still some endings in here i haven't done and ill see what would happened. Thanks😂
Basically the cop is a manifestation of the Father: both come interrupt his perfect "life" with his sister. The cop is the truth, guilt, shame, and such, that the MC was repressing. The cop brings the unwanted truth (covered up in lies at first) like the Father did. In short the "that's fucking illegal. FBI OPEN UP" reaction that comes with the MC dating (and possibly impregnating) his sister. So yeah the cop is the MC's subconscious parroting what his father is saying and trying to do
Edit: I spoiled many things. You're better watching this guy's second video of "12 minutes", than hearing what I have to say: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sFbT6N0l5ZM.html
I just want to stop the sis to become his wife! Anyway time loop is not that bad! Maybe a little, but that with means u will never afraid about death or any consequences. And u can learn anything in unlimited time. U almost live like a god! The main character he just want to stop the loop, the ending should bring him out
