twelve o'clock high : S2E10 Grant Me No Favor 

The plot of a movie in 42 minutes!

Agreed, and the continuity written into the Gallagher character was very good. I watched this show when I was a kid and loved it, but watching it now all these years later I appreciate it even more. Yes, Lansing was extraordinary, but I think Burke did a fine job playing a very different sort of character. Gallager was the subject of the very first episode aired (S1E1) and his somewhat entitled attitude as the son of a high ranking general really rankles the tough no nonsnese Savage, who held him in quite a bit of contempt. Gallagher figures into another episode later in Season One also. I always thought it was a severe mistake to get rid of Lansing, but given that they did, I am glad when they decided to elevate Gallagher to Group Commander, they did not "forget" who he was and where he was from and essentially rewrite the character to be more like Savage. They kept his background and his flaws, like his hot headedness, for example, intact, and it shows well in this episode, which I thought was very strong all around. The character continuity made the series as a whole more rewarding. It would be very interesting to see this series reboot today with the extremely high production values and writing that television these days provides. It would be fascinating to see it handled with a level of realism on the order of a Band Of Brothers or Hacksaw Ridge. Of course, both those productions were based on real life people and events, while 12 O'Clock High used fictional characters and events that were more of a composite drawn from actual people (General Frank Armstrong was the model for Savage and Ira Eaker the model for Gen. Pritchard.)

@@nickmariotti4241 Very well said !

Thank You for your service sir.

@@bleis9896 And for yours as well.

It's Colonel of the urinal!

@@gordonkistler916 Nonsense, the latrine was the only place where senior staff wouldn't bother you. 🙂

Well son as they say:a kick 🦵 n the shin beats being split up the middle(never good)LOL😅

Yeah, he was really good. The last time I saw him was in watching an Ironside episode, where he was a mob boss who kidnaps Ironside to solve a mystery and has to go toe to toe against another mob boss while Ironside outmaneuvers them both.

Season ! is the best in the series!!!

Yes, and YES

Aletter was really fine in this episode. His sitcom series was "Bringing Up Buddy".

This episode had more general stars floating around than the Constellation of Andromeda.

Pritchard was modeled after Ira Eaker.

General Pritchard was played by Paul Newlan, who played Lee Marvin's captain on "M Squad". What an amazing looking guy! When "M Squad" was made into "The Naked Gun" George Kennedy took over Newlan's role. I think Newlan may have been the only guy taller than Andrew Duggan.

Agreed, although I liked the Jack Lord (Pres Gallagher) episode as well; the rest were pretty much the pits.

Absolutely!!! On both accounts.

I loved Duggan in "Seven Days in May". He was almost the hero of the movie. I was a big fan of Duggan from "Bourbon Street Beat", where he played Richard Long's partner.

Yes, it was very realistic.

Actually, from '61 - '68 we also had COMBAT!, Rat Patrol, a few other short lived war dramas and don't forget the comedies like McHale's Navy along with quite a few dozen more movies.

One of those others was GALLANT MEN, which was set in the Italian theatre and IIRC only lasted one season? I had a "Gyrene" friend who hated Gomer Pyle USMC and thought it was downright sacrilegious how Hollyweird was making fun of the Marines!..

Most civilians can and did see the real message being sent. It's the same as the true propaganda that was being used during WWII by German and by US. The news medias have always been a tool for the people they follow. That did not and does not mean, "We the People"!

I am reminded of a fake story about Marines killing innocent civilians in an Iraqi city where the enemy altered the reporter/camera crew. The story went world wide in minutes and we could never prove or disprove that claim. The end result was the Marines were pulled out for no other reason than public opinion!! What a shame, the city was almost cleared, the enemy almost defeated, and the city's population almost saved. ALL that changed, so thank your faithful and true, always above suspension average (freedom of the press) reporters, trained in the exact same methods the Nazis and our own reporters of WWII were trained. The civilians will never stand against them, they know that for sure. So get ready for a Whole Lot More!!!!!!!!!!

Alerted- , not altered. This phone is a propaganda tool all by itself @#$%&!

Par for the course ...

Yep. .

This is what caused General Mitchell court martialed. Major Boyington pulled hair brained schemes to still keep his squadron

I am not sure what the training timeline was in 1940 but in today's service, it is long enough that most co-pilots of crewed aircraft would be a 1st Lt and the pilot would be a Captain. In the Navy Maritime Patrol Aircraft (P-8) the there are three pilots designated Patrol Plane Commander (PPC), O-3, 2P a recently promoted O-3, and 3P (most likely recently reported O-2). There are typically 4 O-4s in a squadron as department heads, and 2 O-5s (CO/XO). They all fly regularly as PPC or MC depending on whether they are Naval Aviators or Naval Flight Officers. The MC or Mission commander is responsible for the accomplishment of the Mission where the PPC is responsible for Safe Operation of the Aircraft.

It wast just one type of moderator for slowing down neutrons. We used graphite instead. thats for Plutonium production, the Hiroshima bomb didn't need any moderator just a source of enriched U235. Read, "The Making of the Atom Bomb" by Richard Rhodes!

Most American civilians know very, very little about this time frame, the making of the bomb and all efforts all countries were putting into trying to make their bomb efforts successful. That is why the news media can use this lack of knowledge to manipulate the public! If I were an enemy, I would laugh so hard I would die!

The ironic thing is, they replaced him with Paul Burke as they wanted someone who looked "younger" for the role.. Nowadays, that would lead to a lawsuit by the PC police, besides, as we all know, in reality, Paul Burke was OLDER than Lansing, lol! As a Lansing fan, I found a copy of him starring in a Mark Twain story called "Life On The Mississippi"

Lansing was Fired? Loved this show since I was 12. Burke is good. But shouldn't we all agree Lansing..Is and was Irreplaceable.

@@michaelwilliams1747 I had two big problems with Lansing's role. As dramatic is it was, no general officer ever piloted a B-17 bomber against the enemy. And being part of the plane's crew eliminated the inevitable conflicting points of view between those making war plans and those order to cay the

......ordered to carry them out. Also, I struggled to understand Lansing's ever present mumbling through his dialogue.

​@jayvigdior6844 Frank Savage mumbled so much, especially when he was lighting a cigarette, that I 'frankly' gave up. When Major Stovall would talk with him, I could understand exactly one half of the dialogue, Stovall's half. Also, Lansing was a monolith, a rock. He had no humor, but especially he had no vulnerabilities like Joe Gallagher had. Joe G. was a rebel; angry, huffy Savage was part of the machine of decision-making. He could never be suspenseful to watch in what he did or said, or in what happened to him. I'm a fanfiction writer, and there are many more stories I could do with Joe G., than I ever could with Savage. Who do I like better? Guess! 😊

It didn't turn back because of enemy action, but the decision of the commander.

The machines did not get to pick sides, and yes, those were great aircraft. Since the Bf109(Me109) started out as a small plane to begin with, it pretty much limited how much altering the Germans were able to do with the thing, (though they sure tried with many variants, the range was never good.)

@@m10bob22 Didn't it kinda start life as the 108? Very, very similar in appearance?!

There's info on Wikipedia and IMDb, but basically none of airframe were airworthy, but some could be taxied around. They had three used in total, including a P51 in later episodes. The rest of the flying footage was from the original 1949 film or archival footage.

@@plhought TNX for ur info...Ive been meaning to buy "The 12 Ocklock High Logbook" by Allen Duffin. Its the unofficial history of the book,movie and TV show. Looks very good and revealing.

Quinn Martin (12 O'Clock High, The Fugitive, The Invaders, The F. B. I., many many others) was sort of the Taylor Sheridan of his day, haha...

Mark Clark, Sorry to hear that. That is why they call it military justice and why I am LUCKY I made it out without being busted and without any prison record!

Was he the part of the 100th infantry battalion ? All brave men

@ He was a 1st Sergeant Fox Company 442nd RCT, and the 100th was the first barttalion of the 442nd RCT.

@@johnwakamatsu3391 You must be very proud of him. But the Japanese are born warriors.

@ I know that if you were expected to service the country and especially if you were born in a samurai family. I have a Japanese wife and if you fled the country during a war you could never come back home. My father in-law was a Japanese Navy pilot and only survived because the war end.

Mr. Aletter was at the time married to veteran actress and former Miss America Lee Meriwether, who starred in the sci-fi series THE TIME TUNNEL(Irwin Allen Productions/20th Television/ABC) and the detective drama BARNABY JONES(QM Productions/CBS).

I believe I read in a back story somewhere that of Lt. Gen. Gallagher's three sons only Joseph graduated from West Point. Jeff died at Bataan and Preston was an Officer Candidate who made Very Good.

That surprises me. Preston certainly appeared field officer material in the episode about the shuttle raid. He was perhaps too involved for a general officer, but that would come with time and experience.

I still wish to back up the Colonel but thank you for the tribute on the episode nonetheless.

I agree. No 4-letter word of any kind in anywhere of the scenes. So different now.

I was thinking the DSC.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - George Santayana ( *not* Plato )

There's a pretty good movie about it that you can see on RU-vid with Kirk Douglass, The Heroes of Telmark.

@@lsmart I did but there was an earlier movie shot in the 50s called la bataille de l eau lourde

@ It was actually in 1948, but only a short clip is available on RU-vid. Thanks anyways.

JPV JPV another interesting series on Netflix on this topic, “The Heavy Water War” six part series.

Why would Hollywood/America Show Just How Stupid It Was For Not allowing black out for coastal cities/factories/built-up areas that could easily be seen and used to help enemy u-boats hit major targets. I feel we had a few in high places working on the enemies pay. Same with torpedo development and implementation!?!? I would love to see that Swiss bank account!

You had to wear the head set at the time, nothing had come along as yet.

"Well, if we're gonna bomb from 600 feet, we won't have far to fall, will we?" Meaning, a fall from 600 feet wouldn't be as painful as the other, much farther fall he and Gallagher Jr. were going to face (stern disciplinary action, public disgrace & court martial).

@@Trev0r98 Thanks, you're right. I understood more or less what he was intending, but it just bugged me that I couldn't make out his words. There are lots of similar cases in TV and film where guys make unclear statements. I never understood why the director would not require the actors to re-read the line more clearly.

That’s why I kept repeating the episodes. They didnt have subtitles back then.

And a Spitfire and Thunderbolts!

​@@shimshonbendan8730Technically the whole series is a f**kup!

Hundreds of feet above the cloud layer and flying at 600ft and over water!!!😂😂😂😂

Unless they have extra photographers, navigators, bombardiers, ect. which occurred on special / secret missions.

Well,different models carried different number of crew.

Not widely publicized!

This book is a gem!

That's the difference between war and peace. If he had acted that way during peace time, he'd be out on his ass in a heart beat. It was the reason many veterans chose to stay in Vietnam and Korea to complete their service obligation. Too much BS in stateside duty.

I have read that on rare occasions, they did.

Or just send P47's to bomb? they could actually carry 2 thousand pound bombs...maybe not to Norway but their ofensive capabilitiy was enormous!

I think you mean p47's

Bruce; They are STILL waiting on those P-41's!

I know you meant P-51, my phone type writer pad gets me into trouble about twice a day! Thanks!

@@kevinp8212 or the Brits send the Mosquito's and their 4K bombload and high speed

I now only watch ME TV, a retro station that has programs from the 1950s and 60s to, 70s. The quality of writting and the message of self-responsibility, moral responsibilty etc., really highlights how bad TV is today. By the 1970s shows you can see the pro-leftist messaging and vulgarity. Also blaming everthing conservative as being crazy anti-communist paranoia or religious bigots..Watching today clearly shows the Marxist Hollywood influltration got underway by the late 60s...and look at what we have now today. Operation Mockingbird, -the CIA pushing this exact revolution in 1967- is very obvious when watching the change over time.

... are you the one the who said that it '..great to see American Bombers going DOWN over germany' ?? MAYBE IF all the german military was at HOME .. this wouldn't have happened, maybe ??

I agree- Burke sucked and ruied the show for me. I ,like may orhers- prefered Lansing. Lansings management style is more in line with the original movie, and its even been studied as a prefered “people management” method. Burkes portail is that of a sucky, wimpy ,”sorry for himself” cry baby. Although I understand it was part of the story line, it was FAR LESS enjoyable to watch the show. Burkes acting (even if it suits his role) is also not as exciting tomwatch as Robert Lansings “Quit your bitching , you are capabable of beiing the best- Now lets go to war “ motivation!

Roy Rodriguez Are you aware of the heavy water production underway by the Nazis in Norway? They were trying to develop nuclear weapons. Those targets were top secret.

Rattlesnake Ridge Research Yup, that's what it turned out to be. See the movie "The Heroes of Telemark" for more of the story.

Rattlesnake Ridge Research ya in the end the heavy water was sunk in a lake by the underground ...not by bombers ...

Roy Rodriguez . . . the bombing raids blew up the buildings and tons of equiptment and supplies used to prosses the "heavy" water. Underground factions can NEVER be given enough credit for thier contributions to any war effort.