Twerking on the Holy Stones - Lessons form Canterbury. Ashenden Scripted. 

You should see what they did in St Patrick's cathedral in NYC. A pagan ceremony in the guise of a funeral

Dr. Ashden, please keep my wife and me in your prayers. We will be walking a pilgrimage from the Tower of London to Canterbury during Holy Week. We will be praying for a deeper conversion of Our Hearts and for the Hearts of England to turn back to Our Lord and to His Holy Catholic Church.

Thank you Dr. Ashenden for your continued work which is so very much appreciated.

I'm sorry Dr Ashden that beautiful souls like yours must be assaulted by the desecration of our holy ancient churches built with love suffering and sacrifice in God's honour and for our edification, the angels weep when they see our fall. But as they say where it is darkest then the light of Christ shines more brightly.❤ can you do a video on The Holy Face devotion, it is for these awful times, and also The Flame of Love rosary. God bless

It's like that awful funeral at Catholic cathedral in New York.

To have the Brandenburg Concertos played in a Cathedral is one thing. Rave music is another. This is absolutely disgusting.

Thank you Dr Ashenden. It is spiritually refreshing & nourishing to view you & listen to your erudition on all matters you present with such eloquence & humility. God is Blessing you.

As always, respectful and intelligent, and a pleasure to listen to.

Well done, another good examination of beauty and mystery and its connection to Catholicism.

Brilliant explanation of the outworking of nominalism and the nihilistic destiny of matter divorced from spirit.

Sacrilege arising from the poverty of spirit of those who are custodians of such heritage, is particularly disturbing because it is such a conspicuous capitulation in complicity with the anti-christian prevailing culture.

The so-called "Enlightenment" is a misnomer. The real enlightenment was the steady progress of science, invention and knowledge which continued throughout the so-called dark ages and carried on to this day. "Enlightenment thinkers" like Isaac Newton were often deeply religious, moreover Newton was clear he hadn't explained gravity, he had merely described what it did. Which is all science properly does, it often can't give you a reason why it should be that way. The sudden "enlightenment" in the 17th - 19th centuries is a false narrative invented by political commentators and activists who never invented or discovered anything.

Yes we are fighting the devil and his agents.

This was very interesting and well put. I would just add that we seem to be living in an era which has lost any sense of time and place. Putting the overtly religious aspect aside for a moment, there seems to be no respect for the need for some people to have quiet places, places of refuge if you like. Cathedrals and Abbey churches were designed and built for monks and nuns to say prayers, obeying St Paul's suggestion that we should pray constantly. The beauty of the buildings, which is unsurpassed in my opinion, springs from the belief that heaven and earth could come together. But I believe that many people have an inbuilt need for quiet at times, and this is being trampled on just about everywhere. In schools, in libraries, on public transport, you name it, the loud extrovert people dominate the spaces. There are already many places where young people (or older ones who should know better) can go to dance, drink and flirt accompanied by loud music and flashing lights. Their sense that this isn't enough, and that they either must, or are entitled to, destroy the peaceful and quiet places beloved of others, suggests there is more to it. I do believe it's part of a spiritual battle that you have mentioned before. There's a touch of the bully about it. I do believe that sound can be territorial. Males of many species use sound to alert others of their presence, to declare their territory and to warn others away. The young man driving along the high street with his car windows open, blaring out loud music is doing precisely that. These 'raves,' and profane acts and songs, are an invasion and a declaration of ownership. The quiet and holy atmosphere which attract worshippers and tourists alike to beautiful churches, may disappear and then we will truly be left with piles of stones meaning nothing.

As an Anglican in the US (ACNA), I am aghast and ashamed of what the CofE has allowed. But this is endemic of the poverty of soul that the spiritual leaders of that part of the church have come to. We don’t fight against flesh and blood…but we do fight with the powerful tools of prayer and godly living. Lord, in your mercy.

It’s happening at winchester cathedral soon. Madness

It was this same sense of the numinous that kept me visiting churches in my younger years, before my conversion. It seemed to me then that the Spirit could be found in even the humblest little chapel. Now I cannot find it in my own parish and I would not find it at Canterbury either. But the question I keep running up against is this: what does the Anglican Church think will happen once everyone is showing up for the discos and not for the Word? Where will their own authority be derived from at that point? Anything they do in order to seem relatable or modern can be done better by other organizations. If they wash out the one distinctive thing they have going for them, then they are putting themselves out of a job sooner than they know. Surely that should speak to their utilitarian minds?

“You can’t have the beauty without the holiness.”❤

Thank you

Excellent analysis!

I use to work in nightclubs many years ago. Fornication was common, if they could get away with it, whilst lost in their hedonism. Should i be surprised then, that this is now the way of the church ? I think of the mercurial table tossing exercise in the house of God, then think of the once common jumble sales. Perhaps turning them into brothels, is simply a question of time then. The final act of debasement, almost complete.

Gavin, I hope the Archbishop and the Pope are listening. It might be legal but immoral. There no right or wrong? Danger road.

The anglicans of The Free Church Of England are totally against any raves in cathedrals.

disco dancers in a once-catholic building are less of an affront to the church’s patrimony than 500+ years of the usurers’ minions larping as successors of the apostles..priestesses are hilarious tho, lolz

I think the investment in making beautiful and keeping sacred our churches and cathedrals is akin to Mary anointing the feet of Jesus. Celebrating him with the most expensive perfume. People scoffed, and Lo, Jesus own disciples were aiming to please him by suggesting a better use for the money she spent. But we ought to honour our Lord with beautiful worship in fitting spaces that speak of Christ’s sacrifice and love poured out. Our churches are arks. They are a place to flee the world and all that weighs us down out there. Keep our churches sacred. I wonder what Jonathon Haidt would say. His discussions around concepts of purity and defilement come to mind. Lord, have mercy

Is nothing sacred anymore?

I wonder how many at the rave turned up again for worship.

Matter radiated with the presence of God: such a beautiful expression

The bottom line between Protestantism and Catholicism seems to be the almost total lack of the Holy Spirit within Protestantism. Any sense of protest or questioning arising from true faith always, always results in nevertheless conforming to God’s will, ie Abraham and Isaac, Mary at the incarnation, Jesus in Gethsemane, etc.), whereas protests not made in true faith, if followed through, result in deviating from God’s will and thereby setting up a counter culture - one in which the Holy Spirit is at least thwarted or not present at all. The Rave in the Nave will be followed by events much worse than this as the Holy Spirit recedes further from both the building and its people.

Thank you Gavin. My son studied Catholic theology in Germany and is greatly influenced by the so-called enlightenment. I understand the view that things have to be of use better now.

Exactly why René Guénon did not consider Protestantism a legitimate variant of Christianity.

Pray Pray and Pray!

Thank you This was what I needed today 🕊🙏🏻🕊

I have just discovered your online voice, Loved the theological argument you give to express your mindset. I agree with you about the use of churches and Cathedrals - our Holy prayerful buildings were built to glorify God not to make money.

Just an admission of Spiritual redundancy. For their museums have to make money somehow. God or money......

I am sorry to say that I find your inferences regarding Protestantism quite offensive. I am not Catholic, I am not even Anglican, I am Presbyterian. I was born, baptised and brought up in the Presbyterian Church and after coming to personal faith in Christ in my early teenage years, and after much reading thought and prayer I remained Presbyterian by conviction. While I agree that in our tradition the church buildings are 'functional' they were (at least originally) designed and built with much symbolic meaning and a simple beauty in their structure. I would be happy to describe and explain if anyone is interested. What I am trying to say is that truly spiritual Protestants do recognise that everything around us was created and is sustained by God and that things consecrated as Holy whether through ritual or by simple use should NOT be desecrated. Also where others consider something holy (a Buddhist temple for instance) I would not dream of knowingly desecrating that place (by entering it wearing something leather) even where I do not share their sense of holiness. It is just good manners if nothing else. I am just as shocked and as appalled as you are that this event took place with the "blessing" and connivance of the Dean and other clergy. Please do not tar true Protestant Christians with this brush. What we are seeing here and elsewhere is the desecration and dismantling of large sections of the church visible by materialist leaders whose faith and spiritual understanding is minimal to non-existent. At best, in the parable of the Sower, they are the seed that fell amongst thorns; at worst they are the wolves in sheep's clothing that Christ and the Apostles warned us would come.

I listen to you regularly and thank you for the output on your channel and also for Catholics Unscripted. I enjoy both. I should declare being a Scottish Presbyterian.... Maybe you shouldn't brand current (and possibly terminal) C of E Anglicanism as a failed Protestant experiment? It's Apostasy!! And it will result in a split. You also had problems in the NY Cathedral when a transgender funeral took over. The assertion that Atheism derives from Protestantism, i.e., post 1517, is rather unfair . The French Revolutionaries did not come out of the Protestant faith, nor did Soviet Communism or Maoism or Kim Yong's North Korea. They practised atheism as state religion. The promoters of the Enlightenment thinking did not accept Christianity either! Hume was not a follower of Knox. As was pointed out on a current Unscripted video, some popes were not good custodians. But there is a risk and a price to be paid if a Church holds to tradition and to an evolving Magisterium? Power is entrusted with individuals who let the Church down. I have looked into certain beliefs and practices within Roman Catholicism and tried to understand those from a Catholic viewpoint. I'm trying to learn more about Mariology, Communion, and Veneration of the Saints, Relics, Purgatory, etc. In Protestantism, that is free from Apostasy, as you know, we hold to Scripture alone. Which is why there was a protest... But I can see through the trees, and I do recognise Christian sincerity and conviction. So I reach out to you all. The Unscripted video on the Canterbury rave was a great story of cooperation, and the witness by both the hospital doctor and of Mark was excellent. Thank you.

To me, the "Catholic Mind" seems contradictory. For on its account why bother to have any formal theology at all? Why make biblical arguments or quote the Church Fathers? Once one has it one is in a state of comprehension and that's it. The significance of weeping statues becomes self-evident and sufficient. It sounds very much like what I once heard from the Zen masters. Moreover, patently false religions make the same appeal. I've heard it from Mormons and Scientologists, who talk about the "Morman Mind" or in the latter case, the "Clear Mind." I agree that there is a dimension of Christianity that transcends human rationality; for example, the miracle and mystery of the Holy Eucharist but (and I can't think of a way to put it exactly as I would like) there needs to be limits else Christianity becomes wholly mysterious and perhaps even gnostic. Besides because of our fallen nature, we tend to forget or downplay the miracle of day-to-day existence and then start looking for spiritual thrills. I think it was in his Orthodoxy that Chesterton offered up a view of even the most quotidian occurrences as being miracles. I was thinking today as I was swimming that to have food is to eat is a provision from God just short of the presence of the body and blood of Our Lord in the bread and wine in Communion. If we could see how the Lord provisions us with literally everything and how much of a miracle that is then maybe we would be less titillated by apparitions and relics? Oh!, I forgot to say that I too am dismayed by "twerking on the holy stones." It is an abomination. As we say, "Come Lord Jesus!"

Has it not dawned on you that christ is purely mythical, Gavin? So much evil dwells in that vatican😢

As I understand, Jews also venerate the remains of their departed

Baconian Project preceded the Enlightenment.

Raving. All so on the nose, these days.

Thank you for this.

Thank you, Gavin, for bringing your knowledge of Philosophy into the debate. I must confess that, despite having studied Philosophy at University and having made a determined effort, on one occasion, to read and understand Antonio Rosmini’s “The Origin of Ideas” I have never really managed to grasp what is really meant by “epistemology”. You have encouraged me to read it once again (I have it in a good English translation, as well as in Italian). Priestly formation, of course, involves an initial three year period studying Philosophy, followed by four years studyingTheology. The study of Philosophy is becoming more popular, I gather - judging by the number of contestants on University Challenge who seem to be reading it these days.

Thank you! A minor point - mild audio distortion in one channel.

Guildford Cathedral will be doing not one but two such events.

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Are you aware of the work of Mauro Biglino and Paul Wallis?