Twilight Princess Retrospective 

DISAPPOINTED!

Somehow I didn't even realise this lol

Literally unwatchable

I thought I was stuck in a time loop. I thought I was stuck in a time loop.

I love these videos! I like to hear other opinions. I hate a Snowpeak Ruins a little less now. Still love City in the Sky. Now to SS right? I'm just gonna say Ancient Cistern.

I love it too!

Yeah TP technically wasn’t my first Zelda game but it was the first I could remember and was good at plus I really enjoyed myself while growing up with it

​@@nintendonibba2923 Which version did you have growing up? I grew up with the Wii version. I still say it's my favorite. But I finally just got to play the GC version and I think it changed my mind drastically! ~~Long. Jump. Attack!~~ Holy fuck! I swear to God that technique made the game twice as fun!!! But Swinging my arm around as the sword on the Wii is just too much fun!

Mark James I grew up with the Wii version that my older brother bought for my birthday when I was young. *this game is literally a large part of my childhood*

@@1122markj which do you recommend the most for this game? I'm certainly unsure if there is any big difference that can cause me some troubles

That is cool, thank you.

man its been sixteen years and im still learning stuff about Twillight Princess

Wow thanks for this really awesome to know

That’s cool Mememon thanks!! 👍👍

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Coming from Kaiba who needlessly ripped a Blue Eyes card in two, seeing as you already stole it, that's a compliment.

It’s really not that deep it’s just the closest weapon to him so he used that

@@Josephhhhh2077 he had plenty of time to find literally any other weapon, so it's obv meant to be symbolic in one way or another

@@katatonikbliss he stole a weapon used by sages, wouldn’t you think it would be strong, conveniently it was handed to him

@@Josephhhhh2077 tbf it can't be that strong if it failed to kill him kinda impractical in that regard

Why did your brother choose one of the darkest Zelda games in a time of grief?

@@snake4322 it seemed interesting, I guess? my dude, tp was my coping mechanism for the same tragedy.

His mother died, guys. Can you please keep from picking him apart?

Same for my Dad’s death and BotW for me.

@Finn, how the fuck do you cope such loss????? I just want to be prepared when it does.

Yes! This. I absoultely loved having a major villain other than Ganon(dorf). Even if he did end up being the big bad behind everything as usual. He was such an intriguing character and that little scene in the end after you defeat Ganondorf was really satisfying. It shows that there was always more to Zant than him just being another minion.

Well, coincidence meeting you here lol

I played through and beat T.P... But for some reason I completely forgot about Zant! It has been a while... And Ganondorf was pretty memorable... Ah well! Who gives a cucco about Zant!😁

Isn’t that how most bosses are? They get more mad, stronger or crazier?

Zant is literally the representation of the SJW-like people screaming for not getting what they want, then getting it by manipulative companies and governments, but the people get rekted by people who had enough with their BS, since the toxicity was already spreading. Funny how people do not like him that much for this behavior, but then years later we start to see more and more people like him emerge from the depths of hell.

I feel there’s an untapped vein of interest in monster allies among Zelda fans, in part stirred up by the non-hostile Moblins that show up every now and then.

He does it when you immediately retreat your sword after defeating any enemy. I always did it after every single enemy I killed.

Spoopy Yes nintendo please bring this and the wind water remake to the switch

it is on the switch

Alec Garcia It’s on Wii U, not the switch

Same I've always thought of Twilight Princess as a better Majora's Mask! Which I believe are in the same timeline I could be wrong tho!

Right? I can't believe they haven't ported the HD remakes of Twilight Princess and Wind Waker to switch yet. They'd be printing money.

yeah I love this guy's thoroughness but he is way too harsh on linearity. There's nothing wrong with linear gameplay, in fact non-linear gameplay has been overdone so much nowadays, that super linear is almost preferred.

@@Dorraj yea, while I do really love open-worlds and enjoy exploration, those things can only keep me engaged for so long. For instance, I really enjoyed BOTW up until I found all of the towers, and thus pretty much knew what every area had to offer, before the game started to become kind of boring and repetitive for me; there just wasn't enough interesting story or characters to keep me engaged. What really draws me into a game is the narrative, and feeling fully immersed in that narrative. The ideal game for me is one that blends a beautifully crafted open- world, that feels alive and realistic, with complex characters and stories that exist in that world. For this reason The Witcher 3 is the best open-world adventure I've ever played; it has a wonderfully crafted linear narrative that also allows for some exploration and player choice, and has complex characters that you feel connected to. In the Witcher, the tightly constructed narrative improves the feeling of it's world rather than detracting from it. It really has the best balance of immersion, exploration and story, in my opinion. My other three favorite games, KOTOR 2, VTMB and Fallout:New Vegas, all have this blend of immersive atmosphere and interesting story and characters, though only the latter employs a more non-linear story. I'm also a massive fan of the Bioshock series which, again, have very linear narratives yet also have some of the most engrossing environments/atmospheres.

@@somni2246 mhm, I think an open world/narrative is only good when the quality of the narrative is high everywhere. There is no point in making an open world game if most of everything in that world is dry and bland. I'd MUCH rather have a hyper linear story than an extremely bland open world.

I like these videos, but my biggest criticism is that he seems to have a view of what makes a good Zelda dungeon that is very different from mine. For me, a good dungeon is one with interesting puzzles that make use of a novel mechanic that is implemented well. Backtracking in a dungeon can be good if I’m backtracking after I’ve gained a new ability and am looking for places to use it Backtracking sucks when it means desperately looking around previously explored rooms looking for something I was also able to do but missed because it was hidden in an obtuse way. It’s fine to be stuck in a room because you haven’t figured out the puzzle yet, it sucks to be stuck and not even have any idea which room you need to go to. Apparently this guy LOVES that though.

Dorraj I agree but I’ve found that often when Zelda dungeons go for the more linear approach, namely those in wind waker, they drop the ball on making linearity interesting. Instead of ramping up the challenge and relative complexity of the rooms as they go, it pretty much feels like you’re just walking unobstructed from one simple and easy room to the next. That’s why the added challenge of finding the path makes it more fun in these cases. Linearity also forces the developers to put emphasis on continually developing certain themes for their puzzles, whereas with dungeons that are a bit less linear they are able to get away with doing something else instead. For example in Jabu Jabu’s belly in Ocarina of Time, instead of trying to make boomerang puzzles/combat scenarios that gradually increase in complexity, they focused more on testing the player’s spacial awareness and getting them to understand how different parts of the dungeon fit together.

That was my very first completed Zelda game, so it holds a very special place in my heart.

My coworkers favorite Zelda game is phantom hourglass. I didn’t even know that could happen.

@@allikat8847 more power to him, he might have some sentimental memories of it.

@@allikat8847 that’s my other favorite lol, Skyward Sword and Phantom Hourglass, both of them since when I was a kid, before I learned everyone else hated them

I feel this in my soul

I know I am 6 months late but I am sorry you got shunned for your opinion. I'm glad that I met people who share my view on this game.

I can’t even begin to count all the times I lied about what my favorite Zelda game was to avoid those reactions, if your favorite wasn’t OOT or ALTTP it was scorched earth, ESPECIALLY in TP’s case

That is the reason why I never told anybody why Majora's Mask 3D is my favorite Zelda game. I got it during its release year in 2015 on my 13th birthday and loved it from that day on! This was also the first game where a cutscene showed what my character looks like currently. It was really funny because I wore for the entire game Kafeis mask and whenever the camera zoomed in on Link to show his expression the only thing you could see was an expressionless white face with purple hair. Because of that I never knew that Link actually makes expressions in the game...

ill never understand comments like these, why anyone cares what anyone else thinks of their favorite game is beyond me some of you are way too self-conscious tbh, just tell someone to stfu if they're trying to chastise you for some stupid bullshit and/or telling you what you should and shouldn't like

@@katatonikbliss equally, why be weird about what someone else's favourite is? I was like 11 when TP came out and yeah, I would probably be confused and sad if some adult I didn't know well was nasty because I liked a game. It's fine to get in your feelings about it sometimes, as long as it doesn't actively hurt your life or anything. :p

Lol!

Atleast it's in the game instead of the jars of gamers tears with modern day loot box scams! Haha

WTFPoniesftw its not really empty is it

Banging Banana Fi is a complete failure and I need to illustrate why

I don't think she's as awful as people make out

leon thompson she doesn't ruin the game, certainly. But she is a complete failure imo

I feel the way she was incorporated into the story worked, she was annoying gameplay wise though

leon thompson Yeah I suppose she works for the story.

So true. Sound effects can make or break a game.

And Zant already said that his power comes from a "god" on the Lanayru spirit cutscene with Midna and Link.

I feel like Nintendo could have released a patch to fix this. Like Welcome Amiibo, except instead of adding new content to a 6-year-old game, you're removing useless content from a new game. The amount of content connected to miiverse and it's useless reminds me of how much playability Pokémon Gen V lost after DS WiFi shut down...

I don't understand why miiverse just didnt switch posting to Twitter or Facebook. Avoids running your own social media site while keeping the stamps useful

@@emolovetree Probably because of the cesspools that are those sites & Nintendo not wanting to expose kids to that. I do think they could've done something that would be more universal than Miiverse that would've continued on the Switch & with a better name. Bothers me that all my posts on there are gone. I thought the idea was good but could've been done better. Maybe partnered with youtube to have more meaningful content & allow users to monetize more of their stuff.

The only use leftover can see is so that I can piece together the language so I can know what the fuck they’re saying in Wind Waker

@@jaydenliberty9536 Yea but you find in the internet anyway, we can even use internet/youtube in Wii U anyway so not the best dictionary for Hylian.

@@Bio_Hazzard facts

@@ironichoneybadger5066 #Gengel2020

Except you can 100% ignore the Poe sidequest and still be lugging around a full wallet at basically all times.

@@DarkenedAuras7653 i really wish rupees were actually useful in loz games

@@DarkenedAuras7653 u can use him to power ur golden armor

Sorry to go all necromancer on your comment, but 100% agreed. I remembered playing through TPHD on Hero Mode with Ganondorf's amiibo to make it more difficult... And I don't think I died more than once or twice throughout the entire game? It was easy to the point where it severely undermined the "epic" feeling they were going for. Granted, the 3D Zelda games have never been particularly well-known for their difficulty, but TP is the only game where it was so prevalent that it bothered me.

this is a zelda game we're talking about, i think BOTW is as difficult as the franchise has ever gotten with combat - and even then it isn't that challenging tbh the amount of games with challenging combat that are actually fun are pretty miniscule (souls games are the only ones i can think of, and yet again, they aren't that difficult if you aren't an idiot), i'm content with combat just being flashy, engaging, reactive, etc etc

@@katatonikbliss you stating the obvious here does.. nothing. She just explains that this game is designed to be super easy, but that’s not a good thing. You saying “it’s a Zelda game” makes no point and doesn’t make it right. Making you lose more hearts from taking damage doesn’t change the game, it’s still a “Zelda game”. I feel like you’re just bein contrarian for no reason.

@@zogbogbean2464 i feel like you need to look up the definition of contrarianism, also what are you even trying to say? i never even disagreed with OP

Wonder what they'll replace it with if they decide to port this game to Switch.

That was literally me when I replayed it in 2020....

@@BalboaBaggins They would probably just revert it back to the rewards in the GC/Wii version. But it would be fun to place stamps on the environments like 3D World on Switch

@@BalboaBaggins if were lucky Every 10 years theres a 3d zelda remake, soooooo maybeeee wind waker port in 2 years??????

@@spiderfrog5764 I already got it on Cemu emulator. Not planning on buying it ever.

Agreed

same here

Twilight princess is a masterpiece breath of the wild was a great game but was not a masterpiece

@@manimal4136 Breath of The Wild is overall flawed with big points like story, dungeons and durability mechanic being the biggest weaknesses and maybe the reasons for the boring feel and repetition after a while. Twilight Princess doesn't have weaknesses overall, it's almost perfect with small details that show it's age.

@@saricubra2867 I have an almost paradoxical statement about Zelda BOTW. When i was playing it, i got the feeling that the is the same time the most zelda of all and the least of it at the same time. It capture masterfully the feeling of exploration that miyamoto had when creating the first zelda, but lacked in most aspects that turns all the game in a wonderful and powerful adventure. I loved the exploration but i had the feeling that the game didn't need to be an zelda, but it just had the link's skin and so on. I missed the epic musics, clever dungeons and the ''feeling'' of being a hero. Joseth Anderson's review of BOTW and Nerrel's video comparing Skyward Sword and BOTW are good examples that shared this same feeling i had while playing

Midna's the best girl of the entire goddamn franchise, and there are people who don't know of her. It's a sin.

I just got a Wii U, and have wind waker and I just finished it. Should I save up for Twilight princess HD?

@@pebbleplays5335 Yes.

PebblePlays yes

@@pebbleplays5335 Yeah definitely, have it on my Wii U and it's so good

Exactly. And that’s unfortunate that people like GameXplain don’t understand that. They clearly have no patience.

That's exactly how I felt with it. I always love the immersion of these games.

I would put access to the cave of Shadows when you get all 60 poes in a Switch Port.

@@briansilva3344 This is the kind of small but meaningful stuff that I pray Nintendo would do for a Switch port. Sadly they probably won't, but it would be awesome.

milkshaketurtle79 i personally thought all but Midna are severely underdeveloped. Especially this special team that is helping you with the temples. They just stand around and talk

Actual story in a nintendo game with character arcs and development and everything!!!

Honestly, just like Mr.Bierbaron said, all but Midna aren't worth considering. So much talking, screen time, and such with them (which is very little to begin with), yet they don't do much or anything to make most people care about them. Such as this video talking about Collin's development to save one of the other kids is different from people to people, mostly because time spent with Collin personally, is little to none at all. So to other people, that moment with him is very rushed, and possibly undeserved. Just like how KingK says Princess Zelda being there at the end with Link for the final battles, and having the Triforce of Wisdom is undeserved, due to the lack of characterization and screen time of her (even though the same applies to Ganondorf, despite what he says). It really all comes down to how very little screen time every character gets in this game, and how they aren't much different than the way they were from the start. All very much unlike Midna, when it comes to the character department. The talking to the animals? Hoo boy, yeah, no. Another downside when it comes to the Wolf Link mechanics, which makes it look even worser than before, of just how much of a underutilized gimmick it is. At this point, I would rather take the use of sailing in the boat of Wind Waker over it, even during the original where you had the terrible Triforce fetch quest on top of it. Also there's not much of a uniqueness about them at all, that warrants acknowledgement of the mechanic's existence.

Have you played majoras mask?

I'm actually the oposite, to me literally the ONLY character i feel that was developed was midna. also this version of zelda is literally the most bland lifeless zelda weve ever seen. they should have called this game the legend of midna.

Same man, I couldn't accept that he just never sees Midna again. That broke my heart.

and probably spend the rest of his life finding all the tiny minuscule shards of the mirror to fix it, allowing Midna to say what she didn't say at the end: 'Link, I love you'

The ending of this game was my first heartbreak as a child xD I could never except that she just leaves at the end & they never see each other again, it's why I always wanted a sequal & still kinda do to this day. Though it probably won't happen now that BOTW is out & pretty much changed what Zelda is for good as far as linear story & exploration

@@HellxFire98 accept*

When John Marston died in Red Dead did it for me

well you can agree or disagree, but a LOT of people like Zelda games for the exploration aspect. Linearity completely removes that. I don't hate Skyward Sword as much as some people but some sections of its map are essentially a hallway. If youre the type of gamer that doesn't like having everything laid out for you, this type of game doesn't let you make any decisions for your self.

Past decade or so has seen a huge rise in demand for open world “fuck it do whatever you want” games. And ironically now everyone is hating them. It’s just constant shifting demand in genres. Happens all the time. Remember when Battle Royales were fucking EVERYWHERE? Now you ONLY hear about what Apex fortnite and CoD? Trends come and go. Open world games were hella trendy this past decade, and I believe a bit longer than that. And as we all know, shifting trends equals trashing previous trends. Once everyone started demanding open world games, regardless of the quality of them (cough far cry assassins creed shadow of mordor cough cough), the very same people started hating on the past linear games. It’s not the games fault for being developed around a certain point in time, and with certain trends and expectations. People were hating linear story-driven games because “but my freedom and exploration and grindy progression!!!” (Not saying anything’s wrong with that. Like seriously that’s what open worlds games are. Not bad, just their own genre).

@@game-enjoyer13 Well the whole thing about open world games is that is a constant hit or miss. You can make a gorgeous world but if there's NOTHING to do, its the reason why I would prefer having linearity instead since it wouldnt hurt as much and I believe would help the team make more actual content. Look at PSO2NGS for this very example At the other side of the spectrum, you have BOTW where it has a massive open world with actual stuff and many things at play for you to explore and play around in. Which is the reason people "want" open world environments but its tremendously hard to pull off a good open world game

also we can agree that the one on one sword fight is the best ganon fight in the entire franchise.

So did wind waker ganondorf

@@melee9183 not the same. WW one was petrified

If you ain't dead after being turned to stone then you deserve all 3 parts of the triforce

@@melee9183 yeah but it was instantly. Right after link finished him, he turned to stone. He didn't have time to fall

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“So the only thing you can tell me is that I can find Jabba in Jabba’s palace?”

@l L then it would have meant the en of the zelda timeline, since the bloodline of the goddess would have ended

@@yummyemeralds2031 there is at least 3 timelines though and they are reincarnations not necessarily descendants.

@@comyuse9103 If I remember correctly, link is the only one who really reincarnates and the zelda's have an intricate family bloodline. And ganondorf is more or less the same person in every game. If they could and should've killed zelda in this game, they could've just given her an heir considering how old and mature she is for a zelda

@@hylianro all three of them are reincarnation. Link of course u already know is reincarnating every single game. Zelda reincarnated via the royal bloodline. Therefore, if the royal family still exist Zelda could reincarnate. Ganon however are killed several times in this series he is also reincarnated via the curse of demise.

@@hylianro imo there's virtually no reason why both ganondorf and link would reincarnate, but zelda wouldn't. Why the exception?

MagicSpartan Yeah. I guess I wish they were just all pretty or all goofy.

I learned the other day that this tactic is used in cartoons like Disney or in this case Twilight Princess to make the main characters stand out from the rest. The hero in the old Disney films as well as any other main characters generally look more human like/more relatable as a way to highten their sense of heroism. Same sorta deal in Twilight Princess with Link I think

Also kinda makes you feel like Link needs to get the hell out of that starting village of his, cuz aside from Rusl, they're a bunch of cowards and idiots, and he is needed elsewhere.

Another reason could also be that Link and Zelda are Hylians, and Rusl and the townspeople are Ordonians. I notice not a ton of human-like people outside Ordon look silly like that. Idk, I like to look at everything in these games as possibly intentional because of the lore of the world itself :)

Just makes the "men" of Ordon look even more like morons. Not hating, but Rusl really is the only Ordonian with a spine. And Link's not Ordonian.

Well, I would disagree on that. My first Zelda was OoT, then WW, then TP and BotW (I've never owned a Nintendo console, so I was only playing at my friends place, so I had to play whatever Zelda games they had). And TP is my all-time favourite one. Then comes OoT, then WW and then BotW (which I didn't like much, tbh).

You mentioned botw as if the game were an actual good zelda to begin with. Is a good game, but a terrible zelda game (botw)

@@Raylightsen BOTW is one of the best games period. Just because it's so different doesn't make it not a Zelda game. Zelda games was selling poor until BOTW released. Say what you want about BOTW but that's the best selling game in the series and bought in lots of non Zelda gamers like my son, wife and nephew who previously had never played a Zelda game into the series. This is a much fresher take on Zelda since the old take isn't working out. I do hope the sequel will bring back dungeons and unique bosses as that's my only complaint.

@@Light23K you do know popularity/sells doesn't equal quality, right? because if you think it does, then gucci gang and what does the fox say are apparently musical masterpieces.

Guys, both games are amazing. Personally Twilight Princess is still my favorite Zelda game of all time, and Breath of the Wild is an awesome Zelda game in its own right.

@@Raylightsen I agree. it’s a good game, great even, but it doesn’t have that “Zelda feel” that I can only get from Zelda games. The bosses lack diversity and the Divine beasts all have the same vibe. Not to mention the divine beasts are optional as well as everything else. If it’s not important or needed, then why would I be motivated to complete it? That’s why it will never be a favorite for me.

I feel ya. I've been trying to keep a year-long break from it. I failed two weeks ago.

@@ryanpalmberg3865 Watching this video I think I might have to boot it up and play through it again. I still haven't even beat BoTW.

Yeah I played it like 3-4 times and now when I wanna play it, it just isn't the same. I know everything about it so there's nothing to entertain me.

I am with you there

@@ih1763 it doesn't feel the same as playing the first time

Its difficult comparitively to others

I’ve never played it but I want to get it I really like the aesthetic

@@rednutbrian I raged at the escort telma and the carriage mission. Also during navigating the twili-dactal through hyrule river. And rebreaking epona. Oh and the joust with the bokoblin king on the bridge. I struggled a lot with that game lol but it has a special place in my heart as well. It was my first zelda game, and it has that special magic that they all have. The world feels so old and so damn charming. From the river shop keep, to the fishing store owner, to the lantern dude outside of faron. It feels very epic and grand, and I love how small you feel walking into colossal places like hyrule castle. The game just has a very rich world, characters and story, and I'll always love it.

Definitely 100% in my top 5 I also adore twilight princess, still hoping for the switch port so I can play on the go 🙏

I have a ton of respect for Twilight Princess; it definitely has a lot of good things about it. My main problem with it is that it feels too much like a rehash of Ocarina of Time; I don't think the things that are unique to Twilight Princess: the twilight realm, Wolf Link, the epic-fantasy atmosphere, etc., are utilized nearly as much as they could have been.

Twilight Princess was a simple, beautiful thing. It's a >>Love Letter

Nilly Nush oh yeah games actually came out in 2006

@@gub4941 Hey, let's not forget Oblivion, too, lol!

Lord Sauron oh yeah

Sonic on the other hand...

Biggest event of my late childhood. I went from owning a N64 to a Wii, missing the GameCube generation. So this games graphics absolutely blew my mind.... It was ocarina of Time, at that point, my favourite game ever, but bigger, more epic and beautiful! Will never forget the summer if 06 to 07

I don't get it. Simply because they managed to shoehorn in a few more places to use the spinner, it doesn't mean it's a well utilized item. You use it in clearly telegraphed locations, in a very forced way. It's not something that the player is allowed to use creatively.

@@SinclairLockeAnd thats what so frustrating about the spinner, because it is SUCH a unique and awesome item. The way its used in the Desert temple is so much fun.

@@SinclairLocke So you didn't use the spinner in the frozen mansion to play air hockey? You missed out.

@Hero Slippy or even use it to play beyblade or something

That's something I don't get. It's not like the spinner is the first useless zelda item to exist. Dekunuts, certain masks in majora, weaker swords and shields after you upgrade, magic armor, etc. Is there just something here that I'm missing, why do people not like the spinner?

This.

i think he meant more

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@@cheese._9341 -laughs in shadow beast-

The shadow beasts also are clearly meant to be taken out with Wolf Link, even if you can theoreticallytake them out with Human Link. Even Ganon beast has a phase that prioritizes the wolf

This is the remake though

How do people bash this game, what is there to dislike? It's my favorite zelda.

I remember playing up until you became a wolf when I was like 9, and just gave up because of the setting and decided to hate the game for no reason. Few years later I decided to give the game another chance, and I was blown away, haven’t really understood what people dislike about the game since then

@@johnstarke5981 It's one of my top favorite Zelda games as well, but even I'll admit that the start was painfully slow and poorly paced. It shouldn't take you several hours to feel like you are on an adventure. Admittedly, Skyward Sword was MUCH worse with this, but it doesn't excuse this game for a slow start.

@@Dekunutcase thank you for your input. I agree the start was to slow

@@johnstarke5981 It's also one of my most favorite zelda games and I place it at number 2 on my list. But I also agree with the beginning being so painfully slow

NO TAKE MIRROR!!!!!

I played this game when I was young and I was freaked the fuck out when she twisted her head I ran because I thought the transformation was going to continue and get worse.... Nonetheless I love TP it’s gameplay, theme, story, characters, aesthetic, side quests, dungeons and definitely loved the bosses (even yeta)

happens to me in all videos with opinions about stuff I like, "oh hey I like that movie" *watches 20 minute video about why it is good* "Well... god damn do I like the movie"

@@sebastiantafoya3609 Underrated comment!

@@sebastiantafoya3609 bruh why change your opinion if you liked the movie don't change your opinion about it don't change it to fit others

Okaay zzoomeerrt

Go eat a pineapple whole

@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 I did yesterday, it was disgusting

Like, It's the only T rated Zelda game... How did he miss that?

BeardDragon RIP. I miss it.

Tingle's Bottle is now useless in Wind Waker.

that is what bothers me about online integrated features, nothing is gonna last for over 10 years so why make things that depend on those, I hate it when any game has them because people wont have those in a decade or so and BAM not the same experience

Yeah that's like the only thing the original Wind Waker benefits from over HD. In Wind Waker Tingle gave you the Tingle Tuner. While it wasn't the best concept in the world having to connect your GBA to the GameCube to even use the darn thing the thing is you could still go and use it at any time. Even if you played the original game now and had the right tools you could use the Tuner. With HD he gives you the Tingle Bottle instead which was of course used with Miiverse. But without Miiverse the bottle becomes nothing more then a worthless item that sits in your inventory gathering dust throughout the entire game. Nintendo didn't need to get rid of Miiverse even and if they did they could have just replaced it with something different yet still worked. But nope. Drop the whole thing. So stamps in 3-D World? Only there for completion now. Stamps in Twilight Princess for the Wii-U? Useless. Tingle Bottle in Wind Waker for the Wii-U? Also useless. It's like the Wii-U equal of the termination of wi-fi for the original Wii. Mario Kart Wii suffered from a massive loss of content due to this. Did you know Mario Kart Wii had bosses? Well if you just found this out now guess what? You can't fight these bosses because they were exclusive to online wi-fi matches.

wait ... are you for real? I had mario kart wii when it came out, I playet a lot online, altho I always did it for races ... bosses? damn. Anyways I will always hope that in the future developers will find a way to use online features that wont be a important to the experience, heck remember Dark Spore? online mmorpg with Spore features? nope? welp that is 100% gone forever like it never even existed and it was a real nice game

MaiWei music changing as you phase between different areas is one of my favourite things in games. •LoZ Twilight princess overworld •Skies of Arcadia overworld •Even the Wii Sports Games Menus •Mario Kart Wii Menus •FFXIII-2 normal exploration vs when monsters are near. What others are there? I must experience them all!

"Objectively" "change MY mind" Looks like you gotta get yourself a dictionary BOI

ezlo has true charm,midna is just good looking.

@@feelthepony elzo is the best by far 😂

Hey listen...

AGREED.

Finally someone who thinks like I do.

I disagree. It’s nowhere near as dark as OOT. I feel like you misunderstood the portrayal and execution of the story in OOT. Let me give you an example: you become an adult in OOT, realizing that the world is a lot darker and harsher than you thought it was as a child. You go back in time to hopefully gain back your childhood/naive way of thinking. You head down the well in the farm, and then you see weird creatures and satanic writings deep underground, and then you encounter one of the most iconic bosses in the game. A white blood that looks something out of an SCP creepy pasta. There’s weird arms dangling out of the floor, and a jawless creature. The nail in the coffin is that you encounter all this as a child, a child that went back in time to hopefully relive his naive and limited view of the world; shielded from the darkness that you encounter as an adult. Despite these efforts, the darkness is unavoidable. You can’t go back to who you were; you can’t be just a child anymore since the lingering knowledge of the dark world tucked away is still in the brain the moment you stepped outside the temple of time as an adult. THIS is how you write a dark story. THIS is how you show the journey a character goes through using masterful environmental storytelling with 0 dialogue or cutscenes. That is not present in twilight princess. The “dark” aspects of the game are mostly shown through cutscenes and whatnot, and as result the flow of the game’s delve into the dark atmosphere of the world feels a lot less real and satisfying than ocarina of time. It doesn’t feel like “art” but rather a “movie”. All this isn’t even to mention majoras mask, which is not only the best Zelda game but one of the greatest games of all time due to it doing the exact same type of implementation of a dark atmosphere in OOT, but somehow EVEN better with a much darker and depressing setting that leads to probably the greatest atmosphere in any game ever. Once again, having the lingering knowledge of knowing that the world is on the brink of getting wiped out is multitudes more impactful and depressing than even OOT time, because despite by e dark world of hyrule, there’s still a bigger presence of hope. The world isn’t on a “time limit” like majora, and the characters aren’t nearly as fleshed out as majora due to the side quests being worse; the side quests in majora are by far the best in any Zelda game. They truly represent the people within the games as actual beings with emotions and goals far more than any other Zelda game manages to do. Saying goodbye to Romania he her sister in the final day as they say “we’ll meet again tommorow..right?” As they know damn well that they will die after we got to know about their characters through the brilliant side quest is more dark and depressing than ANYTHING in twilight princess. The cherry on top is that it’s done through pure gameplay, with very few dialogue that is used effectively, such as the sister telling link that they will meet again tommorow, when it’s the final day before the world ends. Twilight princess is great, it utilizes aspects of ocarina and died then better in some ways, but the artistic side is definitely not one of them. It falls short in atmosphere, music, story, and art style when compared to majoras mask and OOT due to its lack of “show not tell” and impact of its environment to the overall feel of the story; both of which are done far better in OOT and majoras mask. It’s also not the the best game. All 3 of these games are a masterpiece, but twilight princess is 3rd because the artistic side of Zelda is what makes it truly stand out, not necessarily the combat and cutscenes and graphics and whatnot.

Also fighting ganon in his gerudo form is just as jarring as fighting his beastly form in OOT. That 2nd phase is iconic and etched as one of the best final boss moments in Zelda because it perfectly represents the themes of the game. The first phase is straightforward and ganon looks and feels “formal”, just like young link, but then he transforms into this beastly and wretched creature that is indescribable with words. The atmosphere and lighting suddenly gets a lot more darker. Link and Zelda are visibly surprised as to just how horrifying ganon looks. It’s the same feeling you get when you first walk out of the temple of time after aging 7 years into the future. The vista of this wretched atmosphere is unparalleled, it’s so jarring to the point where the whiplash is still something special to this day. No Zelda game managed to provide such a huge contrast in its environments and gameplay than OOT to such a high and masterful degree. It’s to date the best ganon fight because, while ganon DOES get a powerup that makes him change forms to this beastly looking creature (a common troupe in games), it fits perfectly into the thematic importance of the game and the contrasts within it between formality and straightforwardness to indescribable darkness. Sure twilight princess had a great final encounter that was “unique”, but being “unique” doesn’t necessarily indicate it’s superior quality over something else that may have been less original but executed just as well, or even better, to which OOT’s ganon fight falls into this category.

NotBilbo Baggins well....

Oof

This aged well.

Yeah, about that...

For real tho, did they update the game? Are the stamps worthless now?

I like how the game has a great narrative, great gameplay, superb dungeons, and is done in such a way that it does very well with replayability.

Initially, yes, but after a while, he smartens up and jumps into a portal in the ceiling to avoid the arrow, forcing the player to switch to Wolf Link.

Damn, I know this is 2 years later, but that's a great idea.

It annoys me that you can't finish enemies as a wolf. I know technically it's a sword technique but they literally already have an animation for it with the Poe's.

But that's exactly the same as Golden Skultullas in OoT

But with the magic armor, at least it's a little more useful, in OoT you don't have anything to spend rupees on.

Weirdo which he didnt not metion , he never metions its unlimited money,

Most players dont realize it's unlimited in oot because they never indicate it to the player lol I assume it's the same issue here.

You don't need it though. Even using the armour, I still had tons of cash. It's a lot of work when there are a ton of chests around with 100 rupees each, fishing finds rupees, blowing up rocks, bugs, they're literally everywhere including falling out of the sky and trees (post bird hunting). Blowing up underwater rocks, well you get the point so searching out every last poe is too much of a headache. Just by normal exploration I end up mid fifties, so I'd never know where to begin looking for those 5.

It's so strange to hear stories like these lol I grew up with the SNES so we were the first gens with video games.

@@draoicht22 I bet. I feel strange hearing kids born in 2010 saying Tears of the Kingdom is their first Zelda game lol

Well, Faron woods is great.

TheCrazyTurtle If it's *his* favorite, then it's *his* favorite. Maybe he likes Hyrule field

Just cause the soundtrack is outdated doesn't mean its bad. I would suggest listening to the reorchestrated version, it definetly makes the soundtrack sound a lot more impactful and epic. And to be completely honest I dont mind the midis, maybe Im just used to it. Ive played this zelda the most, as a kid and now. SO listening to it in midi form for years and then hearing it completely revised is pretty jarring and amazing.

TheCrazyTurtle what's wrong with it being made out of midis? :/

TheCrazyTurtle but that has more to do with the limitations of software at that time, rather than composition or melody. TP's soundtrack is generally really well produced and written, even if they don't sound good in the actual game.

Botw MM Ocarina og Zelda 3Ds remakes Wind Waker HD are all better than TP

@@zacharygiles2984 douche

Well that isn't something exclusive to Twilight Princess, pretty much every zelda game tries to make its items better compared to their previous versions, for example The zora's mask compared to the zora tunic from Ocarina The iron boots from wind waker where you can use it together with the deku leaf to mimic the deku flower and use it with the hookshot to pull down heavy blocks The whip from Skyward Sword compared to the grappling hook from WW And the paraglider from Breath of the Wild compared to the sailcloth from SS

@@taylord5381 hes not wrong imo

@@blazing910 sure. but this guy is going on about how he loves the game, and then this guy comes over and is like "these things are better". seems like a dick move to me.

I play this on a wii remembering it summer when i was 14 didnt really played most types of these games i mostly played easy games cause i was a kid after finishing okami in the wii twice cause fucking go di love that game and this twilight princess the dark theme and the gameplay also shaped my taste from an easy gamer playing shitty games and being content my taste for good video games grew and now that i dont have a pc and not being able to use my wii and ps3 and cant buy new one because i dont have money is damn well sad no games will satisfy me i usually play in a internet cafe mostly dota apex and sometimes cs:go but i still miss playing those games okami legend of zelda remeber finishing black ops 1 and 2 in veteran as a kid its an achievement finishing the phantom pain GTA V and skyrim i played few games but i play the fuck out of them cause i got nothing to do pretty sure i played more games but those were the one memorable cause of their replyability now theres a empty hope inside me that no games yet fullfill waiting to be an adult hoping to buy a good computer and have it ready when the elder scrolls 6 came out

Breath of the Wild 2 will make you happy then (as well as me). In an interview with IGN Eiji Aonuma said "The new Breath of the Wild or the sequel to it, it’s not necessarily going to be related to Majora’s Mask or inspired by it... What we showed you currently is a little darker," Sauce - comicbook.com/gaming/news/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-2-nintendo-switch-majoras-mask/

Honestly, everything going to shit is for the better, because he gets to be the knight he was always meant to be, and isn't trapped in some backwards village his whole life as a farmer.

DunantheDefender I fucking knew someone would make that pun.

Stay right there I'm calling the fucking cops

Already tried... They laughed at me. NEXT TIME, DUNANTHEDEFENDER!!! 😤

If this isn't deleted in an hour imma look for you

Boy, do I have some news for you.

@@hexenvexen the Wii version doesn't count, the motion controls and mirrored maps honestly are terrible

@@drolnogardgames4335 This video was already discussing the Wii version so I dont know why Hexen thought to mention it (Assuming he was meaning to with his comment. But I think and hope that they wont touch any 3d console Zeldas again until the next Nintendo console. The Switch is great for remaking the portable Zeldas due to them being made for such low resolution. The bump to Switch is huge and I dont think the value will be as much going to 4k for example. But the console Zeldas are typically epic and try to push graphics on their own. They will all take value from the power of the next console and we wont get that if we get it on Switch. Majoras Mask is compact and unique, so it can be remade any time, to be honest.

Dragonlord, your nickname is an unfortnunate choice (google "Drachenlord"), and also Vexen means the Wii U HD release.

@@Phantron my username has nothing to do with anyone else's and that should be obvious to most people