This is the best Twin Peaks vid analysis on youtube on this subject of dreams. I get frustrated how people just moved on from this show because they believe that its all just a dream in Laura Palmers head.
I think people moved on from the show not because of that reason, come on. They moved on because, despite having the knowledge that Lynch doesn't like to wrapped any of his narratives up into pretty, neat, pink immaculate bows, they expected him to do exactly this....and were disappointed that he didn't meet this expectation.
Ya.i believe the show is purposely built to have multiple possible endings depending on your pursuit. There is enough within the story to support dozens of theories. Thats why it's so magic
I've watched the Return four times all the way through and refuse to move on. some famous director just came out and said it's the best *film" ever created and there are times when I agree. Everytime I watch it, a new layer unfolds to me and new facts jump out. The story just grows and grows, with more links to the movie and original series springing up everywhere. All the unanswered questions won't leave my brain and I keep hoping the answers are hidden somewhere in there. And someone like Corn Pone Flicks will present a unifying theory that ties them all together. God I hope more people wake up and realize how good this was. They need to let David Lynch do more seasons. Once everyone gets around to seeing it, it will be regarded as a high water mark of the 'television series' if you even want to call it that.
I've been dreaming about this video since forever. i mean jesus, i don't have friends whom I can talk about this so i defer to youtube for a very one sided conversation. but every time i vehemently disagree with every video i've seen about the topic, except yours' recommending this when the opportunity arrives
That's partly why I do this...none of my friends have seen the new series, and only a few have seen the original. I expect my wife is pretty sick of hearing about the show at this point, as she's just seen it the one time, so these videos are a way of getting my ideas out of my head.
This is the most brilliant and well explained video about Twin Peaks. It makes the series make perfect sense, which is quite a feat! Maybe David Lynch is really a genius. Undoubtedly he is a dreamer!
I come back to these videos every so often as they’re just that good. I know this isn’t your main thing but you definitely have a gift for plugging into Lynch’s work and pulling out what makes them tick, or maybe just hum with the sound of bad electricity. Very nice work.
It's important to focus on the wording. It's not that we "are" or "in" a dream. We *live* inside a dream. In light of Lynch's ideas about creativity, it seems important. "Who isn't?" - Bravo. Best answer ever.
I really hope at least some of the viewers of your Twin Peaks vids appreciate the amount of work you put into them. The editing is stellar, not to mention all the other technical things. Excellent work and excellent content.
Loving the channel - just finished all of Twin Peaks 3 seasons & movie in the past 2 weeks... Now off to watch Mulholland Drive before I finish this video. Outstanding work not only on your analysis, but also matching the production style of Twin Peaks. Cheers
I love the style of your videos, cutting the actual things happening instead of just watching you commentate. Please keep making more cuz these videos are exactly what I want to see when I look up Twin Peaks theories!
I consider it important to things like this that you show your work, as it were. It makes the case much stronger AND it's far more visually-interesting than a guy sitting in a chair talking.
The scene kind of reminded me of the film Primer, one of the most baffling time-travel stories ever filmed. I was going to go into that a bit, but didn't want the video to drag on too much. It does focus on a man obsessed with returning to the same point repeatedly to engineer a certain moment, which inevitably results in his running into himself from previous iterations.
your Twin Peaks analysis are so good and inspiring. thank you for making those videos :) also good luck with your path to become a filmmaker. i would love to see your films
Thank you so much for these videos! They are so beautiful, so interesting! It's like I've traveled back to the world of Twin Peaks by watching them. What a great experience you've made us have!
I must say, you make a DAMN FINE Twin Peaks Analysis Video, Corn Pone Flicks! I've watched a lot of great Twin Peaks Analysis Videos, from different channels such as: Take The Ring, Obnoxious & Anonymous, Jay Dyer, Wow Lynch Wow & many others. But I just stumbled across your channel, a couple weeks ago, and you by far, have the best theories, and the best Production quality & Editing skills, I've ever seen, on any Twin Peaks Fan Videos. I dunno how you do it. You make it look like you've got a Million Dollar Budget, the way you place yourself in different Twin Peaks settings, such as the Black Lodge, White Lodge, The Dutchmen's, etc. Very impressive. Keep up these amazing Twin Peaks Videos. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
No budget, just a cheap homemade green-screen. I've been editing for thirty years, over half of that professionally, so I've had plenty of practice. I'm still pissed that there's a goof in this that I missed before uploading; now I'm stuck with it. Hopefully no one will notice.
Thanks, though I think that's overstating things...I"m sure plenty of viewers figured it out all on their own, or for that matter, came to a different conclusion.
I've never seen that, so I wouldn't count on it, but I come up with ideas for videos faster than I can make them, so I don't see myself running dry anytime soon. I can absolutely guarantee that topically, they'll be all over the map.
Where the hell you have been hiding for the last two years 😀 Brilliant and stunning content that you have been delivering through these twin peaks videos! Most detailed, analytical analysis of whole TP (S1-3, FWWM, books). I thought almost e erything has already been said but I obviously made mistake! Keep up the good work!
Right here, where RU-vid has been hiding me for ten years. I made my first Peaks video for the anniversary of the show's completed run and have been slowly releasing these ever since (amongst some other videos on other topics). There will be a few more before I move on to other topics...I have a long list of them cued up in my head.
Revisiting this as I recently re-watched Mullholland Drive. There are many meta videos on that movie, but yours is the best and it's not even fully about that. Would love to see a full video dedicated to Mullholland Drive some time. You know if you run out of content ideas or something.
I feel like I pretty much summed up Mulholland Drive in this video, but as far as running out of ideas goes, I think of new video ideas way faster than I can make them, so I wouldn't be too concerned about that.
The random coffee guy is actually my great uncle and the composer for the movie ,Angelo Badalamenti…may he find peace with the fireman in the white Lodge 😢 1937-2022
”But who is the dreamer?” Like you said; Who isn’t. We all had this same dream. You, me, Lynch, Richard, Carrie etc.. Carrie saw that dream from point of Laura. Lynch saw that dream from point of Gordon. Richard from point of Dale etc. You and me as a viewer of this series are dreaming mainly this Dale/Richard’s dream because he is the main character. If you think about going in lucid dreams, they follow specific sequence: first there is phase in dream that feels like normal everyday life with a twist you don’t realize yet. On the second phase everything starts to go crazy. Only weird stuff happend and you feel yourself powerless to do anything like you’ve been tied or something. Can’t do anything but enjoy that nightmarish ride. After you realize it’s not reality but only dream you can move to third, lucid phase. There everything is happneing fluently. First two season are dreaming in that first phase. Everything seems to be normal. There is some weird stuff you think it’s okay. Like the dancing boy at the school hallway, dancing Horne brothers, white horse in the living room or the lodge etc. Those kind of things were normal and belonged in Twin Peaks reality when Dale went first time to Twin Peaks and when I watched these seasons many years ago. You may think that dancing schoolboy at hallway or dancing Horne borthers is just soapy acting on TV-series but these things are for a reason. There is many abnormal things in first and second season to catch that hint of dreaming. It was too soapy. It's out of this world, it's the dream we're all dreaming. Third season is mainly second phase of dreaming. Viewer, as Dougie, is not able to do barely anything. But all other dream characters are carrying you through the dream. You are repeating what others are saying and you start to remember stuff until you fully realize that you’re inside a dream. On episode 16 Coop realizes that after electric shock. Mike asks Coop to wake up. First, Coop sees Mike. Mike gives his minatory speech and starts to fade away but Coop, suddenly in control, stops him, and orders him to make another. Mike's attitude changes to one of obedience: "I understand." Next, he sees Janie-E. Up to that point, Janie has been ordering him around. But the dreamer, now lucid, tells her right away: "go find a doctor" and she obeys. Next, he sees Bushnell. "Pass me a sandwich. I'm starving." Boom. Next, he sees a doctor: "Doctor, confirm my vitals and release me."The doctor does so immediately contrary to any reality. Next, he asks Bushnell for his gun. "Sure thing, Dougie!" is the response. It's hilarious, sure, and it's also the kind of thing that could only happen in a dream. Next, he asks to get the Mitchum brothers on the phone. It's on speed-dial! He tells them. "I need a plane to Spokane Washington," and their response? "We're gassing up the jet right now" Cooper is in control the way only a lucid dreamer is in control. Like usually and also from my own experience lucid dreaming is happening just before waking up. Coop realizes it’s time to wake up soon and it’s time for farewell at sheriff’s office. Richard wakes up from motel room. His personality is totally different than special agent Dale Coopers in his dreams. Richard is just typical agent, he is absolute professional but he is missing that charm of Dale. Richard sees Dale as ideal himself. He can only dream about that. Maybe Richard saw that first phase of dream 25 years ago and now his dream continued. So now when he woke up from same dream he saw many years ago, the dream had grown up in his mind. He was confused and messed up with reality. So he went to find Laura. But he found Carrie who later realizes (when she heard someone yelling Laura) that she has seen same dream once from point of Laura. I have experienced once same kind of shared dream in reality. I had nightmarish dream, it felt so real but after waking up I realized there was some really strange aspects which were not right in real life. After few years my friend told me about the nightmare he had and it was almost exactly the same I had.
Hey, very nice analysis, to which I mostly agree - especially the no way "it was all a dream" part. However, for the final episode I have a different theory, which sort of adds up - when Coop wakes up in the morning, in a different hotel, he does not go to ANY parallel universe - he enters the real world (thus "waking up" from the "dream" that movies and shows are. And yes, WE are the dreamers, watching them, while the characters "live inside a dream". The gas stations, Judy's, the brands, Odessa, everything is real world - including Alice Tremond, who is played by the actual real life owner of the Palmer house. The RR is there just like in the real world, no longer the show Norma's RR - and the ONLY thing I did not manage to gel at first, but eventually hit me, is the Twin Peaks sign - well yeah, because that is also there in the real world, like a memento, except there is no Twin Peaks - it's like the Hobbiton in NZ, it exists, but it's not like hobbits actually live there :) Again, great comment and analysis.
I always forget about the Cowboy. Appearing with that electric sizzle. Interesting how he has material control, through actually giving orders, but also appears aetherially, like in the 'wake up' scene. The Man behind Winkies also is shown in an 'over arching' controlling sense, when holding the box. Who are these ever present, fourth wall breaking agents?
When The Cowboy says "Hey pretty girl. Time to wake up" it's not an effort to snap her out of sleep and dreaming - it's a prompt to understand that you're shadow-side has driven all of your actions and you need to confront that.
I've wondered on that myself, but for the scene where he shows up at Janey-E's place and says "Home!" in what very much sounds like the Dougie voice. I feel like that if that was Lynch's intention, he didn't convey it to Kyle MacLachlan.
I like your style and I like your analysis, but there is one thing. You mention Mulholland Drive several times and I was hoping that you will notice one small thing. Remember when Adam Kesher find his wife with another man and then he takes her jewelry and then puts the jewelry in the paint? This also echoes in TP:TR in the last episode when Cooper puts bullets in the deep frying oil. Who would do such a thing? Nobody. It's the logic of a dream. Cooper is in a pocket reality where Judy wants him and Laura to forget who they are. Cooper was deliberately presented to the elements from throughout the show: the electric tree while he leaves the parking from a hotel, the white horse, the name Judy as a restaurant name...even when Cooper finds Laura (Carrie Page) he sees a dead man inside her house like it's no big deal. Because he is in a dream with Laura, they have the same dream. Judy wants him to forget about himself and his main purpose, to bring Laura home. Judy was in the house (it's in our house now) but Laura's scream has made her free from Judy's control.
I didn't really see anything odd in either of those actions. Adam is pouring paint on his wife's jewelry in anger because he's just caught her cheating. Cooper is putting the guns in boiling oil to render them useless and inaccessible to the men he took them from. The fact that he acknowledges this as a possibly dangerous action hints at the fact that he's settled comewhere between his old self and Mr. C; he's being helpful, but he's also going way more "Dirty Harry" than ever before.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Maybe Cooper is trying to act like a Dirty Harry but that is not in his style. It was not in his character to act so carelessly when there is a danger to others, especially when he can prevent it. I think that Lynch is purposely leading us to realize that what we are seeing is a dream.
That it's not in his style was my point. We're seeing a Cooper that has absorbed aspects of his shadow self. I do, however, think it's more plausible that the last episode is a dream rather than all the preceding ones, as some have suggested. The whole issue of Judy is going to be the subject of the next episode.
I believe I read that somewhere. I think it was supposed to be a "spin off" (if you will) of twin peaks following Audrey going out into the world. Mulholland Drive was that story but changed into a film format. I'm sure you could Google it.
Alistair Crowley who shows up on the cover of pop records and who was influential to the founders of JPL.. he said "LET US LEARN TO READ BACKWARDS AND TO SPEAK BACKWARDS" To what purpose? The mocking of reality and truth. Portrayals of anything meaningful must be obscured and truth mocked while dropping hints to real knowledge; this is the mandate to entertainers by the elite and something Lynch does masterfully.
The dream is the TV show Twin Peaks. What's happening is that fictional characters who were invented for a TV show are becoming self-aware to the fact that they live inside a TV show. They are trapped inside it. You can't save Laura Palmer because if you save her, the show doesn't exist. She's been invented to be sacrificed for a story. If Laura Palmer doesn't die, there is no plot and the TV show we're watching ceases to exist.
Maybe. There is obviously some meta-textual commentary happening in the series, but nothing ever indicated to me that it was meant to go anything close to that far.
It feels to me like a similar idea as when Phillip Gerard is half-dissolved over numerous scenes...that's Coop in another time or place looking or thinking back on the events, knowing he will fail. His expression is very much like the one he wears over the ending credits as Laura is whispering her forever-unheard message in his ear.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Have you seen Twin Perfect's meta analysis on Twin Peaks? I like your videos and edits and i actually thought the same about it. We are the dreamers. It was so evident. We create our lives and perceive things as we wish. Lynch's work and charachters have this magical power in them, i feel like im watching something alive rather than a screen when i watch them the piece is talking TO me. I feel so close to Lynch, always been. Try to watch Blue Velvet on LSD once, it is just something else. The worlds and emotions you can feel inside your head... Its like a MUTUAL DREAM with Lynch. That' why Frank says "I'll see you in my dreams". Its meta.
Hey man, just came across your analysis videos last night love them, very thorough and funny too. Any idea when your Judy one is out? I'm looking forward to your interpretation and hopefully more TP content
These generally take me at least a month to write and assemble. The next one is going to be a bit elaborate, so I wouldn't expect it before that (not to mention I have a job and other projects all squeezed into the average day, as well.) I'm a quality over quantity kind of guy.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks No rush, I just wanted to say I have watched tonnes of TP analysis and theory videos on RU-vid and yours are my favourite by far, and I definitely appreciate the production you put into them too, I think Lynch would also ;) I just finished my rewatch of TP S3 and was back looking for peopel's theories. I think Lynch and Frost were very interested in the occult (Crowley, Thelema, Parsons etc as mentioned in he books) in fact Crowley's novel The Moonchild sounds a lot like influence on Laura. Though of course they drew from a wide range of inspirations. It seems Frost in particular was very interested in the occult/esoteric subjects. I'm very interested n hearing what you have to say about Judy. And what your thoughts are on the ending, did Coop/Richard destroy Judy and the Black Lodge by bringing Laura back or did he lead her to Judy and therefore was not successful? And has he been in a loop of doing so for 25 years (I don't think so, it is just what some believe; like how some believe it is all a dream up the final episode etc)? I know we will most likely never know for certain, but I believe too that there is an answer in there to our questions, for the most part, its just hard to find. But the concept of Judy has always left me stumped overall.
Hey Corn Pone, I found another argumentation supporting the dream theory. Don't hate because of this, I can't restrain myself. In the early '90s, some Japanese programmers working at Nintendo were developing the new chapter of the Zelda videogaming series. One of these guys was very fond of Twin Peaks, so he decided to insert elements taken from the show in the videogame, for example an owl that is not what it seems. But the biggest twist in the plot he affirms he took from TP is that... the whole world you explore in the game (an island) is in fact a dream (the dream of a very big fish), and that the only way for him to escape the isle is to wake the fish, actually destroying the village whose life and inhabitants he has learnt to appreciate. Now, my question for you is: how is it possible that, already in the early 90s, a bright young man could have absorbed *this* from his passion for TP?
I'm not sure what needs explaining here: that was that viewer's opinion. It's like trying to prove God by pointing out that you know a guy who's a Christian; it doesn't speak to the authors' intentions. Fire Walk with Me also contained the "We live inside a dream" line, and the series is very dreamlike in tone and is full of characters who talk about dreams frequently. This simply illustrates that other people embrace the idea, which no one disputes.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Yes, of course you're right... this was not a very rational take. Still, when I thought back about Zelda's story, I was struck, because it does sound much closer to the third series - and this whole discussion - than to the first two, or to the movie. Anyway, just sharing thoughts. Cheers
Loving your videos. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to subscribe to the theory that Cooper's trying to save Laura Palmer over and over. I prefer the theory that what he's doing is bringing her to Judy to destroy the latter (her powerful scream is her weapon). The ending is them succeeding (the lights go out - electricity dies). I'm curious what you think of this theory.
I can't say I really subscribe to any theory...even my own ideas might be totally wrong. I entertain ideas which seem to follow from the material. I wasn't even really aware that any significant number of other people actually thought Cooper was stuck in a loop. I personally think that's viable for numerous reasons: the reference to "time and time again," the two impassive-looking Dianes, and even the fact that Lynch has stated that Peaks and Lost Highway take place in the same universe, and Lost Highway is pretty explicitly about a loop. I don't really get the idea that Carrie/Laura is destroying Judy by screaming at her. What indicates this? She screamed at BOB plenty of times, and it didn't hurt him...Judy would seem, if anything, to be even stronger than BOB.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Well, the "two birds with one stone" were to destroy BOB and Judy. That's why I believe Cooper's trying to bring Laura to Judy. That's why he brings her to where Sarah is supposed to be. His ultimate goal isn't to save Laura. I deduced that her scream was her weapon because it caused the electricity to go out. The way I see it, she was created specifically as a counter to Judy. BOB was created by Judy, but isn't necessarily to be defeated in the same manner.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks This is all part of a larger theory I've heard that Briggs and the FBI created the alternate world Cooper and Diane drive into to trap Judy. Cooper and Diane lure Judy into this trap by having sex (just like sex attracted her to attack the couple at the beginning of the season). It's an especially powerful lure because of the emotional pain the sex evokes in Diane.
While I agree about the "lure" aspect, I see nothing in the show that implies the FBI had the power to create alternate universes or anything akin to that. This is the difference between connecting dots and drawing a bunch of new dots. As to the lights going out in the Palmer house, I see this more symbolically, indicating anything from Laura blacking out to the timeline resetting, because it's an image that Lynch has used before, such as the light dimming and going out above Fred in Lost Highway before he changes into Pete, and after the death of Frank Booth in Blue Velvet.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I will concede that the FBI creating an alternate universe is shaky. Replace that with "whatever it is that Cooper and Diane cross into with trepidation". The FBI may not have created it, but it's some weird reality they knew about.
*delves into Corn Pone Flicks lore* Ok, first scene, either the blood is a deep, emotional meaning to being smashed in the face by a 1.9 16ths by 3.9 16th plank of a story about losing a loved one next to you.......... or my man sniffed FAR to much coke...... he's with laura, coke, maybe both.
No, I like jokes just fine, when I can tell that's what's happening. This is the internet, where there are a million examples of people overanalyzing and reading way too much into nearly everything.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Eh, that's true man but honestly, nothing bad was ment by it. Just a funny thing to notice, you are in bed next to laura with blood out your nose, we know her rep lol. If anyone thinks you were actually doing it then they would need to get their head checked.
Yeah, sorry, it's just the vast number of people who really do try and wring meaning out of anything by Lynch or Lynch-related sort have made me blind to humor in those areas. I've literally had people who think they're psychologists who try and say things like "Your videos are good, so you must be sad, because creative people are always sad."
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks still working my way through. Enjoying the observations! I find the finale episode to be the most terrifying thing ever, but I don’t like discussing my views so much.
Cooper, white knight on a white horse? Not literally on a horse. Maybe when he sees the white horse figurine on the mantle in Carrie's house, this aspect of his personality looks at him.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I have phrased it wrong. I should have asked if maybe the white horse symbolizes the white knight aspect of Cooper. I didn't mean to say that you have connected his white knight persona with the horse.
I get into this in later videos, but the horse is referenced as being the pale horse of Revelation, which symbolizes death, as well as being contemporaneous slang for heroin-the first two times we see it appear, it's when Sarah Palmer is drugged. Its appearance in season 3, however, implies it's not a hallucination.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I remember that, now that you said it. And I agree that the white horse symbolizes death. It appears when Sarah is drugged - in the series when Maddy is about to be killed, in the movie shortly before Laura realizes who BOB really is, which leads to her psychological death, the death of the relationship between her and her father, and leads to - what I admittedly can only assume - Laura's decision to die. In Carrie's house you see the horse on the mantle and the dead man on the couch, and I'd argue that Cooper leads Carrie back to Twin Peaks to bring her back to her mother, for whatever reason, and in the end Carrie remembers her trauma, which makes her scream in pain, just like when she realized that her father is BOB. The lights go out, and we're back in the Lodge. As for the horse being a symbol for the white knight or related to the white knight, like Cooper tries to be the good guy, but he ultimately brings death, albeit with good intentions: yeah, I guess one could this into it, but there's no further evidence to go with that notion.
If Laura is good, why is she in the black lodge? I also have a theory that Diane is judy, because why would diane have a tulpa and a doppelgänger as well? Mr.C always seems to ask who is judy, not where is judy. I think mr.c was trying to find judy and did find her because diane was raped. And thus she has given birth to new realities. In which richard and linda exist.
would you say there is a connection between the Fireman saying "you are faraway" and Hawk's story about the dream soul travelling to "faraway places...the land of the dead"
Very much so. In fact, I now regret not putting that in there, as I meant to. It could also be him saying that Cooper is far away from his goal, a sort of "you're getting colder" indication.
Poor Cooper...has yet to achieve his dream, and continues to live in it...even when others have moved on. What year is it? Thank you for the amazing commentary and analysis!
Really enjoying your videos. Its great that nearly two years on , someone is keeping the discussion alive , with very thought provoking content. Personally, I think the whole experience was designed to present several possibilities , but no definite answers . This is the brilliance of it , and why it frustrates so many, and why its one of my favorite things in the world.
Man, I think it's like the 3rd time I'm watching this and when you deliver the "who isn't" line while the music kicks in I always get some serious goosebumps. Such a wonderful mini series you've created it for all of us lovers of the magical world of Twin Peaks. Artistically sound, aesthetically pleasing, humorous and masterfully delivered.
I don't subscribe to the theory of "It was just a dream" either, rather I believe that the 'dreaming' that is referenced throughout the show is like you said, what we want our world to be. I believe that towards the end of the show, Cooper has reached a stage of enlightenment - for lack of a better word - that he essentially, through his interactions with the lodges, 'dreams' r.e. changes the world of Twin Peaks into one in which Laura Palmer did not die. This, I think, is why we see the weird time/space anomalies in town because as the show progresses and gets ever closer to "the number of completion", reality is changing bit by bit to match what Cooper ends up doing by saving Laura Palmer. I also think that what ends up happening the moment Cooper saves Laura is that Judy, whisks Laura away into her world, a world of Judy's dreaming. If we look at both Major Garland's note and Hawk's map, we see two mountains, exactly alike, but on top of one is the dark symbol that we can safely assume represents Judy. That second mountain with Judy's symbol on top represents, I think, a Twin World of Judy's 'dreaming'. Once in this 'Twin World', we see that Laura was working at a place called "Judy's" and we also see a white horse on the mantle of Laura\Carrie's house indicating that this reality is of Judy's making. At the end of the show, when Laura remembers who she is, it destroys Judy's 'Twin World'. Whether this destroys Judy completely or simply her 'dream' is up to the imagination and whatever David Lynch and Mark Frost end up making out of it if they ever make a 4th season.
Well done. This jives with my worldview on Twin Peaks. I like how you explore this, nail down some key suspicions, but acknowledge the complexities with good principles that include all the right evocative vagaries. You handle the particular and the universal very well. I will be showing this video to all my Peaky friends now! This video is a masterful achievement.
My interpretation of that the big reunion scene in Part 17 where the big Cooper face says "We Live Inside a Dream" is that it's Cooper refusing to believe it could be reality. Like, a world where he saves Diane, defeats his doppelganger, BOB is destroyed by a punch, everyone is together and happy, after spending 25 years in the Black Lodge he just can't wrap his mind around finally finding such a perfect ending. So even though the day is almost totally saved, he still goes forward by trying to change time and save Laura Palmer. Part 18 where he loses Diane/Linda, loses his identity, maybe gets the world destroyed depending on what the final scene means, it's all because of Cooper's paranoia causing him to reject reality
I believe the sound loops 7 times in the white lodge scene. Not sure if that's important. I think the meeting between Cooper and the Fireman must be a sign of impending transcendence (for Cooper). Considering Frost's liking of Carl Jung, I believe the meeting might represent the encounter with the wise old man, which is one of the final steps of "individuation".
Really glad to find this channel, love your twin peaks content :) I always thought that Cooper and the Fireman scene from the start was placed right after Cooper loses Laura Palmer in the past, with the Fireman then playing the sounds so that Cooper can relate it with the fact that they have Laura with them now, and then proceeds to explain the next plan for Cooper. But as always, for me the fact that everyone has their own ideas is one of the things that makes this show great.
This is the most concise, confident interpretation of Lynch's work Ive come across in a long time. Not that I'm in the habit of trolling for Lynch analyses but I must say, you're very good, in my limited and humble opinion...new sub! You're cheeky too, in a non-annoying way🙏🙏🙌🙌✌✌
the KEY is, In 1989 Laura and Agent Cooper saw each other in a dream, and the "Cooper" she and Cooper himself saw in the dream was Cooper 25 years older, Laura wrote the dream in the diary before her death, addressing Agent Cooper as "an older man" and there's one page missing from her diary. The younger Cooper addresses his dream with Diane in the recorder, so Diane was his diary. In 2017 season, Diane was hidden and replaced with a tulpa. 25 years later: Episode17: Older Cooper found teen Laura (with the help from Philip Jeffries and MIKE) in Twin Peaks to bring her home and she disappears screaming in thin air and then Cooper suddenly in the waiting room meeting older Laura. Episode18 (Final): Older Cooper found older Laura (Carrie Page) in Texas (with the help from the Fireman) to bring her home and she screams and then everything stops. Laura' s missing page should written : "2 :53 ...Time and time and time again" WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM -TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN. What Laura whispered to Cooper in 2017 season final was her MISSING PAGE, in where they would eventually meet each other outside the red room/waiting room, in some "alternate worlds". In disbelief Cooper then utters "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM". So who is JUDY (the extreme negative force)? Laura IS Judy. LAURA IS THE ONE. This is why 2017 Bad Coop was after her, because BOB who is still with him wanted Laura's body & soul, according to Laura's secret diary. Whoever is after her will vanish. She uses nickname "Ms Judy" after Judy Garland for some reasons. The Fireman (electricity?) was protecting Judy. Did the Fireman turned Laura into Judy? The WHITE HORSE means someone you have in mind the most will become something in a different & more powerful form - "the Gumm (Judy Garland's old name/self) you liked is going to be back, in style." So halellujah come on get happy!
this might be the reason why in the final episode, or the oen before, Sarah smashes all the pictures , then takes the big one of Laura's homecoming smashed it on the floor, and stabs it over and over again. Would also explains why she sees the white horse before maddy gets killed, and I also have a feeling that she knew that laura was egtting abused, but prefered to look away.
There is no channel on RU-vid that puts this much care into videos about Twin Peaks. Sometimes I even want to go in the comment sections of videos on channels like Obnoxious and Anonymous and try spreading the word. But those comment sections are so filled with weird drama...
That's kind of why I don't mind having a smaller audience. Mind you, I could do with one slightly bigger than this, but if everything I put up did as well as the Audrey video, I'd be quite satisfied.
08:54 - white horse in front of Judy. Exactly how it looks. White horse in front of Sarah. S2, Maddy's murder. Right in front of her but she didn't see it. Just the white horse. Sarah is dark within.
I believe the dreamer is the universe and although the universe doesn't sleep, per se, its consciousness is entirely what we earth folk would categorize as subconscious. Thus, the dream world we see is bizarre and surreal like our dreams tend to be. All sorts of crazy stuff can, and does, happen. I see no reason to think this implies we, nor the denizens of our favorite TV show, are somehow not real. This universal "dream" IS reality, and those living inside it ALSO dream in all senses of the word. "Who isn't?" indeed. (the foregoing is within the context of the show; I don't necessarily believe it in my real life, nor am I so committed to this belief that I won't entertain and engage with other theories)
For all his ‘weirdness’ Lynch tends to be interested in Reality, and how the mind creates delusions to escape it. The delusions are as bizarre as human imagination can dream, but they orbit that which is True. I suspect Lynch is dealing with the same notions in S3, while Mark Frost engages his obsessions with folklore. The two forming the ‘Twin Peaks’ between which the show dances like clouds and never quite settles. It’s interesting that Cooper seems more ‘integrated’ with his various selves in the final episode, perhaps a step closer to the ‘dreamer’ Cooper face superimposed on events in ep17. The ultimate dreamer, though, must surely be the ‘I’ that resides in all of us.
It's too easy to attribute dream reality to the events in Twin Peaks. And I think that's intentionally part of Lynch's program. It's probably better to think about it as varying states of consciousness, with maybe some magical realism fluctuation of locale, than dream-worlds.
Yeah, I'd say Coop being caught in a messed up Lynch-ian time loop is a lot better than the age old "it was all a dream" gag. Perhaps Laura is whispering into Cooper's ear about who killed her... as well as the fact that he's caught in a time loop but never remembers it every time it starts over again. I'll just guess that the time-loop is how Judy is keeping Cooper from stopping it. Oh and the white horse appears in the form of a small figurine on Carey Page's mantle, not that I could tell you what that means. Probably a coincidence - but after Laura tells Cooper that she'll see him again in 25 years she makes this gesture with her arms which is very similar to something Audrey does with her arms while dancing at the Roadhouse.
I've never seen that show, so I don't see it happening. I don't really do requests; I've got an ever-lengthening list of reviews I want to do queued up in my head already, as I think of them faster than I can crank them out. I'm not sure why you bring up the 90s, though...I have no special focus on that or any other specific time period. Heck, this series is mostly about the recent Twin Peaks, moreso than it's about the 90s series.
The more I watch this video the more I go down the rabbit hole. Those last 2 episodes were like when you have sleep paralysis. Carrie's scream at the end wakes you up. And then you think jesus that was some wierd shit going on right there what happened? Then the more you think about it the more you want to know a different take on it. Ultimately I think that is where coop is. Trying to decipher and fix Laura time and time again in different dreams and different timelines. Wherever his impure soul takes him. Lynch is a genius.
After seeing the final episode for the first time, I just sat there unmoving for what felt like forever, as if all the gears in my brain had suddenly been choked with wads of chewing gum. Forget sleep paralysis; I was wide awake and just trying to unclog my thoughts enough to move.
Splendid video. Nevertheless, I think that the case for Laura's dream is still pretty strong. I know what follows is kind of abstruse, but maybe you should try addressing it (I think it's an even deeper take at the dream topic): is it possible that Cooper's time-travelling *retroactively* changed the events of TP into a dream? From a world with many subjects to one with one subject only? I will try and be more precise. In TP there is strong evidence that dream-logic works "upstream" (see the reversal of voices), that causality itself flows in a different, opposite direction. This would suggest that Lynch is interested in a philosofical conception of time. Time not seen as a homogeneous dimension (Chronos), as usually described in Physics, but as a construct of meaning. Meaning can be easily conceived as the common genetic element for both dream-time and wake-time, with the difference that dreams are finalistically bound whereas wake is causalistically so. Thus, can wake become dream and viceversa? If we take time travel as possible, we should consider it possible, too. And that this modification occurred in the narrative *in concomitance* with a time-travel event should be taken into serious consideration. This would explain the big difference between Mulholland Dr, where what is dream stays dream and what is wake stays wake, and TP. Lynch would be taking his interest to a new level of experimentation. And electricity, or, better, difference of potential, could be brought into the picture too.
As with any theory, I have to ask, where is this suggested in the show? We accept time travel because it is explicitly shown to occur. What suggests that events have turned into dreams after the fact, or that dreams have become reality (as opposed to predicting reality)? Which events show this, in either iteration?
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks At the very end, Laura hears her mother calling her name (we know this is how Sarah would have sounded if heard by someone at the Palmer's house the morning she was found dead), but Sarah is nowhere to be seen. This triggers an uncanny feeling in Laura (compare it to the shaking reaction of "Betty" in MD, while listening to Rebekah del Rio) that reacts screaming. When she screams, everything turns black. This might be one indication that we are watching the end of a dream. Second: Cooper seems to be aware of the dream-quality of the place he has travelled to, because his M.O. seems irrational even by his standards. He notices the "Judy's" sign and immediately goes in, because he understands that words cannot be random, as in fact they never are in dreams (compare the diner scene in MD, where Diane picks Betty's name up). One thing is believing in intuition, another is knowing that a diner named after some Judy *has* to be the place. Third, we have the "we live inside a dream", "we are like the dreamer", "Laura is the one", etc, important lines (I say "important" because they were all treated by Lynch as very significant moments in his direction of the show, maybe even as the most significant moments). These are not real pieces of evidence, but this theory of mine revolves around the idea that this might be a *new* way for Lynch to explore dreams, dealing more with time and electricity than with repressed desire, something he conjured precisely to appeal *differently* from his work with MD. So I don't think that he would have necessarily given us the same kind of strong evidence we find in MD (keep in mind that that was the first time he presented us an hour-long dream; now we are all used to it, "educated" to it, and he would never repeat the same pattern twice). I think he had the idea of making TP a dream since FWWM; he then used it for MD (when he thought there was no way back to TP); he finally got the chance to make another season of TP but now he had to rework things so that they didn't feel like MD2. And surely he succeded in doing so, if we still harbor all these conflicting theories after so many rewatches!
