This stuff often comes from corporate. There are multiple parks with Timber's named rides..Wonderland, Kings Island, Kings Dominion. CF is into the lumber/wood mills themes with wonderland getting a ride called Lumberjack after getting soaring timbers they year before, The Beast also has a lumber theme.
Grobble Actually, The Beast has a mine theme. The minecart near the lift has a sign over it saying "Beast Canyon Mine Co." It makes me question why it wasn't factored into the Mystic Timbers story...
Guys, editing/uploading these videos take a lot of time. You all need to have more respect for the dude. I've noticed a lot of you are asking "where's this and where's that", "hurry up with this & hurry up with that". Have patience. There's no need for you guys to try and rush him about uploading videos. We all love his videos and analysis, I understand that, but it's a little disrespectful and it comes off very unappreciative when you say some of the things you guys say to him.
The inversion at 5:20 is called a cutback. It's the first of its kind on an RMC Hybrid, but it's on/was on a couple other coasters, notably some Gertslauter Eurofighters, the RMC Raptors, and Drachen Fire
because I went to the Twisted Timbers announcement and have KD as my home park, so it automatically has priority. That was my last Twisted Timbers video, the rest are coming soon.
Excuse me, I've been working non stop for the past day trying to get out as many of these videos as possible. You can be patient. Your life isn't depending on me putting out a single video. I will get it out to you when I can.
"Unfortunately though the one thing that comes to mind when reading that was that it sounds pretty dang similar to mystic timbers" EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. But hey, I think it's still gonna be a great edition to our home park :)
Steel Vengeance has a longer track length than Mean Streak as well. It makes sense because they both follow the exact layout of their original counterparts from start to finish, plus they're both obviously higher than the originals.
That inversion/turn-around section I believe is called a "Cutback". Arrow put an inversion like that on the short lived Drachen Fire at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. Kinda cool to see that inversion coming back, and on a much smoother coaster.
Extra length usually comes from taller hills and more difference between the highest and lowest points of the ride. Like Steel Vengeance, it sticks almost exactly to the pre-RMC layout on a 2D scale, but there is a lot more profound highest and lowest points. For example, a stretch of track that travels 500ft horizontally and has no hills at all is 500ft of track. If it has a ton of crazy airtime hills going from the ground level to high up along it, it could be 600, 700 ft. or even longer in track.
I think this looks better than Steel Vengeance! I love the theme, I love the drop, I love those trains, and I LOVE that trick track double up. That was one of the craziest parts of Storm Chaser.
Twisted Timbers ROCKS 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻!!! Rode it seven times now too. The one thing I wish they kept was the handle sticks to hold onto all the time. Last July when I was there they changed them to leather handle bars. I like the handle sticks better than the bars
5:10 It's called cutback inversion. It's been used on a few Gerslauter rides and utilized on compact coasters, but this is the first time it's been used on a hybrid/woodie.
You will see something like that inversion at 5:31 if you make a reaction video to a coaster I am creating in March. I put two or maybe three in of those inversions in that coaster. It is awesome. Video coming soon on that coaster. Please react to it. That element is called a cutback.
That weird inversion/overbank is actually a cutback, its 2 half corkscrews glued together, it was first used on drachen fire at busch gardens williamsburg
I got to ride Lightening Rod twice on Monday :) It started the day down for maintenance but opened after about 10 minutes. Most of the people in line in front of us got out of line so we were on the first train of the day.
The turn inversion looks similar to the inversion in Space Mountain at DLP, they call it a tounge, however it's also similar to the cutback inversion from Drachenfire
Somethin I never liked about a coaster, is if all the turns go to one direction. in this case they go all to the right, it would have been nice to see it go diagonal after the first floater/ejector hill and then make the layout a bit more compact out and bake similar to a coaster like blue streak as layout then to have this huge space in the middle and have the coaster only make turns to the right.
I am glad to say I have an rmc at my home park now! Also kings dominion has one of the best coaster collections in the world now because they have a great floorless, freakin intimidator 305, an inverted coaster that launches you out of a volcano, and an awesome rmc!
This is the 55mph variety of RMC in the USA. This one will be the longest and probably be at the top of this sub category. Twisted Timbers (KD) Storm Chaser (KK) The Joker (SFDK) Wicked Cyclone (SFNE)
Great video Taylor! I agree that you shouldn't really compare twisted timbers to Steel vengeance because they are not really the same at all, As Taylor said Steel Vengeance is twice the size of Twisted timbers. They are also two different completely different layouts and I feel that Steel Vengeance has a lot more space for Elements then Twisted timbers but for what Kings Dominion could fit I say they did amazing. Again great video Taylor. (Kings Dominion and Busch Gardens home parks woo) I also hope Busch gardens keeps adding new Coasters with this two/One year apart adding rollercoasters with Tempesto then InvadR
I wonder if I can get on this ride next year on a coaster trip. This is one of the coaster I'm more hyped for because this is a ride I might be able to go on next year on my coaster trip with my family.
I may be wrong, but thanks to my extensive gameplay of planet coaster, that inversion which you identified in the video appears to be a cutback, which is basically a corkscrew, and an opposite sided exit to a normal corkscrew. Think hammerhead turn except way smaller and more spread out.
Keep in mind that the locals here in Virginia have no idea that kings island even exists so to them the back story behind twisted timbers doesn't matter that much. I think they did a pretty good job with it.
That inversion isn't the only one of its kind. It's called a cut back and they can be found on most Euro Fighters and it was on Dragon Fire at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.
Well its the only one of its kind on a hybrid. And I don't know if I'd call the ones on a Euro-Fighter a true cutback. IMO those don't take you upside down. This one definitely does.
Those triple airtime hills back to back to back were pretty much heaven...my only complaint about this ride would be those two bunny hops immediately before and after the first overbank. They just felt off and were a bit painful as they slammed me into the left side of the car.
I already love KD more than my own home park (which happens to be Carowinds) and this just makes me love it even more!! I'm super saddened the info got leaked out last week, so it sort of ruined the surprise for the name, but the rendering of the real coaster looks SO FREAKING GOOD! I hope they do some extra theming and not leave it so bare (I mean, let's be honest, the only truly themed coasters at KD are Volcano, Flight of Fear, Backlot Stunt, and I305 if you count the entire area itself). I hope those headlights on the trains actually work at night too! That would be great touch of detail. Love the analysis bro!
Kings dominion used to be owned by paramount.. Im assuming Carowinds was too since they have the hurler.. So most of the rides at some point had themes but were stripped when cedar fair took over.
Taylor, this is not about twisted timbers, but the two raptors. I am a six flags boy. Six flags just announced theirs raptor in fiesta Texas before all of the other parks so they can have the first one, so cedar fair didnt get the first one
That overbank is gonna be like storm chaser's inversion/overbank ..... just not held as long. Also hopefully this one actually keeps the planned outward banked turn, unlike.. again.. storm chaser
I wouldn't mind seeing Carowinds get either a GCI or a RMC Topper Track coaster. They need to get a wooden coaster to make up for tearing down Thunder Road.
That overbank kinda looks like when you played Roller Coaster Tycoon and made a corkscrew with the second half of it going in the opposite direction because you were bored and didn't know any better.
I think this ride looks better than New Mean Streak as it stays low to the ground, has more airtime hills, and sustains its speed very well. Both look amazing and are perfect for their respective situations. That cutback thing is not really a new element, I remember it on Drachen Fire (ouch!). I'm sure it will be a lot better this time around.