Twitter vs Threads is More Interesting Than You Think 

non-biased?

Why is this pinned?

​@@Lionel-zd8rbI'm curious if you just wrote all that by yourself or if it is a copypasta or something?

​@@BakrAli10I bet he uses Reddit

@@nuqwestr bot

Absolutely loved it!

Huh

Wdym I lovely? Lovely is not a verb

Wait they did :0 was that a one time thing?

@@internet_userr Spell check came in and didn't do its thing

RU-vid comments: hold my beer

Twitter is now filled with Elon scam bots and Nazis. Good riddance I say.

​@@joegibesRU-vid can't be compared, it's in another league, but I like the way Twitter works and I don't think people will leave because of threads or Elon.

This was Tumblr until it was neutered

@@glaxonberry3667 And is Twitter now . He's right .

Zuck is more like Suck

@@spacefreedomgot em

nobody deserves your trust these days

Mostly Liberals

Lmao

Still use RU-vid tho

​@@astrofpv3631 I think RU-vid is different because it is basically a search engine for videos. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram are not search engines at their cores. You follow people and continually listen to them. Of course, you can subscribe to RU-vid channels as well, and you can also search for topics on other social media sites, so of course there is some similarity... However, rather than seeing what a friend ate for breakfast, or how much a stupid celebrity hates a current or past president, or some trash propaganda that a corporation spews out, you are looking for videos that interest you. So in that respect, RU-vid is more like TV that is all "on demand", even if it has numerous social media aspects.

​@@RationalificI think RU-vid is becoming more like other social media's with shorts and stuff like community posts and stories.

@@Astra2 That's a good point, and I don't like shorts, myself. Still, I'd say it's not there yet, and I hope it never gets there.

RU-vid won't show me that my classmate just bought her second house and another is travelling in Europe for the entire summer while I got fired from my job. I'll take it.

Yo' they made Kengan Ashura a real thing now lmao

Then it's one step closer to just having Biden and Putin fight it out. Instead of war. World peace through boxing 🙏

Go back to dueling.

@@breadman32398 I wanna elect Cena before we do that please

That would be the universe where the billioners fight in exoskeleton killing machines.

You realize your Government knows who you are, where you live, your date of birth, where you were born, where you went to school, where you moved, your medical history, grades, where you spend your money, how you earn your money, how much you earn, all your certificates, they know who your family are, who you are related to and can trace your entire family history as far back as government records allow and so much more. Why the fuck would they need your followers list on twitter??

Threads is glad to hand it over since the track literally everything legally possible, Twitter was almost crashed to show how much it had been infiltrated by the US Govt. and now laws are being passed to stop this from happening.

And cynical to think they do

@@samordera It's not that difficult to run sentiment analysis through Twitter's own API. Can easily extrapolate tweets to segment users into groups to be manipulated.

they did for Twitter, not anymore Meta.... it is the government

Give it time… if Twitter can collapse in such a time, Threads can grow in the same time frame. Elon ruined Twitter and at least Threads (and I fucking hate Meta) is trying to be better for the world and not just for one dueschbag that protects another scumbag 😂 Twitter is grossssssssss 🤮

Yeah, less headaches

I thank my own common sense for never being part of any of it...except YT.

Now you just stick to social media on RU-vid?

And yet here you are on a social media app, about a video on social media apps

Too right.

The issue with Community Notes is it can cause false assurance. Sure, when it is used correctly, it's better than nothing, but giving your trust to it can influence you into believing things you see that *aren't* disputed by a community note, causing damage that wouldn't have been caused if it hadn't existed. I still think there is a better alternative, especially with AI nowadays or in the near future. And also especially since Community Notes is approved by a small handful or people, it can also get weaponized by select a bias of people

@@ShaneTheBane I think it's better than other forms of fact checking. Do you have any examples of false community notes?

@@ShaneTheBane Community notes have been disputed, very rare but it happens. Unlike the MSM, Snopes and 3rd party so called fact checkers who are beyond biased. Community Notes have fact cheked numbers of Snopes shows how amazing it is. Also Community notes is 50 left 50/right and if you read there approval process its way better than anything Meta has. Also you can apply for community notes and its not a small group and its mixed group of people from both ends. Everything can be weaponized but when you do your best to keep it balance the chances are much smaller compared to fact checkers on facebook who are 9/10 left leaning.

@@ShaneTheBane the thing with community notes is that sources must be provided to create a note and then the notes get voted on by the user, so even if something verifiably wrong shows up, you can downvote and correct it.

@@devalopr Community notes apparently get deleted if enough people vote that it isn't helpful.

@@ikhanumthats not true, I think you cant debate very well and instead became rude.

People who hate Twitter don't understand how Twitter users think lol. If I want to fake my politeness and bow down to politics I would do it in real life why bother do it on social media. Social media is where people should be themselves

You mean X 😂

Yeah, I see Facebook as just a platform for very old users; Instagram is for a more general population; and Threads is for young people.

@@TheSiprianus calm down with those old comments you young whippersnapper

@@cp37373*old woman voice* 'back in my day, we had myspace and bebo'

@@cp37373 I am much younger than Dagogo, and the only "social media" I have used in the last 5 years is RU-vid lol.

​​@@cp37373 Facebook - Old people Instagram - Every age group Twitter - Miserable people Snapchat - Teenagers TikTok - Kids and adults with 12 years old mentality Threads - People who want to keep up with the world but don't want Twitter's toxicity Reddit - Ped0s, fat, unemployed, useless, easily manipulated people

The "fast growth" of threads was because everyone was absorbed from Instagram. It was not organic, it was like a forced update

Yet here you are...

​@@Matanumihe literally said besides youtube.

Nah. I'm not going to PAY to have my data mined, and I'm not addicted to toxic wastes of time and dopamine. I can't be the only one who can live without the shit I'm so tired of.

This is nothing like reddit

@@ronidude They're all shit shows. That's at least one commonality..

I have already reduced using reddit by at least 80%. Thank you reddit.

Bruh I don't know if this news is real but i heard they want to face each other in a dick measuring contest.

Cringe

@@zazaza1000 so you haven’t paid attention in any way, shape or form? Got it.

Both are equally bad there’s no such thing as a good billionaire.

@@Madeintheshade65 ahh yes, people make more than me therefore, they are evil… Want to try again?

I've made two comments on Threads. Both were removed. Both were simple reminders of comments two angry liberals made in the past. It's considered hate speech.

What problems did you find in Musk's Twitter, other than a considerable reduction of censorship against non-woke ideas?

1:57 so Zuckerberg taunts himself???? Pls 🙏🙏🙏🙏 I don't know what talking about I native English speaker but two

In the end of the day, no one gives a flying fudge about privacy. Techlead was right in his latest video

@@DallasCowboyFan95 Techlead is a depressed and lost dude who doesn't know what he wants in life. I wouldn't listen to anything he says.

Thank God Threads hasn’t come to Europe yet because of GDPR. Hope it says in the US forever.

im too poor to even care about all those things lol 😂

😂

they're making a normie ai...

I think that's it. They're of course going to scrape text, phrasing language etc. But also photographs and video via the accept button getting rights that way

I grew up with MySpace... There's a reason why everyone stopped using it - it sucks!

It was high qualifying 👍

Neither I do. Nevertheless a few weeks ago twitter has blocked a maybe 8 year old account of mine. Deleted whom I follow and removed all followers. Further deleted all data. Coming out of the blue without any warning. Saying I have violated their rules (no answer when I complained, just saying it will be blocked). I will rarely use other twitter accounts. It saves me a lot of time. Btw I complained at the EU commission. Commissioner Margarete Vestager who often puts big fines. Right now nothing.

twitter also gets the same data from you lmao

Suck has this already sorry

Too late 😂 only solution is no net at all

@@mcgunk3745 Doesn't, the permissions are much worse with threads, never mind the permanent link to instagram.

And also making it impossible to delete your Threads account without deleting you Instagram account

Its not a different platform per se. Threads being part of the activity hub is actually just connecting Instagram-platform with everything else out there. So its growing because of more exposure. Its actually Instagram (and facebook) thats growing through Threads.

@@quark6847 Not to mention intrusiveness, facebook would demand government ID to lock, and they found reasons to ask, instagram asks for video selfies.

Marketing hype. With over 2 billion insta users and 100 million joining threads thats a conversion ratio of less than 5% From a business perspective, thats a pretty terrible result - when less than 5% of your userbase are willing to click a few buttons to sign-up to your new feature that ain't a roaring success. That's a huge flop - by comparison if the 300k twitter blue subscriptions estimate is accurate out of 400 million total users that's a conversion ratio of 0.075% and these are *paying* subscribers not free like threads. It essentially reveals that only a small vocal minority need or want a safe space, giving them that on meta doesn't harm discourse on twitter.. no one is going to think, hey you know what's missing on twitter now that ppl have moved to threads.. more overly sensitive ppl that get easily offended and hall monitors silencing wrong-think! 😂

​@@sirtraI don't disagree but you gotta realize.... It's been a WEEK.

I think we can agree this was a bit of a lazy video, not the high quality you'd expect from cold fusion

The same impression remained after viewing

I wish it had addressed that it isn't just a ceo problem because all the other companies, the media, and even the presidency has been attacking them. The advertising issues aren't just a random thing. There is more going on. For instance, the comment about a sanely run company also is referring to the "free speach" issue.

Agreed

Same

from my personal experience, meta support is better than google support.

more than Twitter?

You have a choice not to sign up.

​@@cerebrumexcrementthat's just you man... I got thrown in jail for saying "colour" last year.

meta support for facebook is non existent. I don't know how that is possible at their scale.

Yea, it wasn't signups, it was sign ins

Most Threads accounts are ported Instagram accounts, not actual signups, so the numbers are massively overinflated and arguably meaningless.

2.5 billion profiles but no-one created them, most people didn't even know they had an account 0 engagement. Not remotely the same

​@@Dynasty1818Not really... u have to download & install the app, walk thru permissions & TOS pages & create ur profile & upload ur profile pic before interacting & 100 million ppl have done that.

It’s different, the numbers are obviously inflated and no other social network is or will be able to do the same because it would mean creating a new account and providing information which you don’t need for threads. But these 100M users actually downloaded threads app and signed in(associating their instagram accounts to threads). What Google did was basically just telling that your Google account is also a G+ account regardless of you being aware or willingly downloading it(or going to g+ site). If meta did the same threads would have 2.3 Bilion users.

Twitter isn't integral to life, so how do we lose?

@@elymanic3497 We lose because we have billionaires fighting over a social media platform built specifically to manipulate its users. Social media is cancer and Musk/Zuck are insults to the world of technology.

Because people make tons of money off of social media these days

Because dick measuring contest between billionaires is good for users.

We don't. That's the thing, it's just another way for meta/google/etc corps to make more ad $$ and money from sharing out data for financial gain. That's it

and another platform to censor and only allow conversation that agrees with their political or monetary goals.

We're in the crossfire

Different people

because people are not well educated about privacy and their convenience trumps privacy.

@@slashtab i seriously don't understand how Meta knowing what i googled last night will ruin my life? Why are people so stuck up about privacy

@@IWantToStayAtYourHouse Why should I care about privacy? You already do. Everyone has some expectation of privacy. We don't want to indiscriminately share every single aspect of our lives with everyone else. But as we move more of activities online, there is an ever increasing portion of our lives which is being recorded by corporations and governments, and these records can be used to our disadvantage, at any time, now or any-time in the future. Essentially, we're now in an information arms race. But unlike other historical analogies that might be cited, the scale of our storage and processing capabilities are immense and extremely powerful, and that changes the game. On a personal level, simple private bits of our lives which we take for granted are being collected and stored indefinitely. Things like: -renting a sexy video -discussing business with a partner -calling an overseas relative - emailing an off-color joke to a friend -entering your bank account password -text messages to your lover -sending your business records to an accountant -seeking help for depression -writing about your past history of alcoholism -your online search and browsing history (yes, all of it) Whether it's a moment of indiscretion, or just an unfortunate circumstance is irrelevant. Imagine that information in the hands of: -a boss who wants to lower your wages - a political opponent - a business competitor -a disgruntled neighbor -a criminal -the town gossip - an important business client But the implications on a societal level are even more dire. The NSA's over-reaching surveillance efforts combined with developments in big-data dramatically shift the playing field in favor of those who can access information which is unavailable to the rest of us. These activities allow the government to: - engage in insider trading and corporate espionage to ensure perpetual economic dominance -co-opt and exploit all new scientific breakthroughs, regardless of their origin or originally intended use - blackmail coerce anyone (including judges, politicians, and military commanders) who isn't walking the party line Whether you trust the current administration with this power is not the issue. The question is, are you also trusting of all future administrations? Unless the answer is yes, our society must engage in a discussion in order to adopt appropriate policies which promote a sustainable solution in our new world of big-data. Until then, we need to hang on long enough for our rather dysfunctional social systems and governments to evolve adequately. By individually using privacy technologies, we help to protect everyone's privacy. A mass-surveillance system is the perfect dictatorship tool. Those who want to maintain their power will use it to censor and harass anybody who criticizes them, to curtail any organization of any protest, to stop any journalist and lawyer from trying to investigate and prosecute them for corruption and crimes they commit. Numerous studies have confirmed that chilling effects on free speech and rights of association that occur, only based on the perception of being surveilled, and not being actively targeted. If people lose their right to privacy, if they live under constant surveillance, or perceived threat of constant surveillance, then they have lost every other right they have. Full stop - the right to privacy is that fundamental. and your comment is ignorant? why should you? that's the question you should seek answer to and not make it point in your discussion. credit: r/privacy

@@slashtab Thanks for this free Ted Talk. Honestly tho you've summarized it so well.

🤡

@@Splucked Given the long history of misuse of user data by FB who's the clown?

Beyond dispute, no one can argue. Should be banned for all those under 18 and otherwise heavily regulated.

In 15-20 years people will think of social media exactly what we do of smoking: "There were a whole lot of ads, lot of peer pressure to join and people had no idea how harmful it was. The companies responsible for it did and they didn't care."

touché

mostly agree. however, it is also arguably one of the best things for the free flow of information and diminishing totalitarian control. As long as there is one social media company that is not under government control (whether directly or indirectly), than it will be very difficult for the truth to be suppressed. Puting aside there being many different viewpoints so finding out what is "true" is another battle on its own - it is at least possible to obtain it. I like the idea of having a online public square for the world - however it can very easily turn into something very bad if censorship becomes the norm. Then social media will turn into a weapon all dead dictators wished they had.

​@@tito-xz8mhsince when do 15 year olds need that free flow of information? They don't vote, and they're kids who should be enjoying what's left of their innocence.

What country? Seriously why do you use American pejoratives as symbols of pride wherever you're from has a 1000 years of history that you just ignore For the low expectation you have towards anglophones. Besides if it is the American companies you are worried about in Europe and not And not to a greater degree native European companies you have failed in the tech space to a degree. I am surprised that Europeans aren't using a German derived social media network for the Things like short form micro blogging and image sharing.

@@rudysmith1552 ​​⁠​⁠​⁠I don’t dislike American companies, I use a lot of them. I just wouldn’t want on company to own all the social media apps and data. Like Tencent is doing in China.

I can bet you meta will win out eventually

Twitter actually do the same thing. Everything you do is tracked.

Bruh, you're using Snapchat so don't give us that bullshit. Your location is always visible.

Without data tracking and selling it, you and I wouldn't be able to use these services for free. Every platform does it. That's fine. But when platforms like thread wants to control via moderation. People will walk away, because there are so many platforms available. Threads might become woke and cancel culture heaven. While twitter will become the proxy of real world. And people will choose freedom over comfort.

Yep, my takeaway from the whole thing is to use Mastodon... and hope it won't get zucked into the metaverse or elonized.

Throws a diaeresis on naive, but can’t use a comma to save his life.

@@bojangprodoktschns5428 It's literally impossible for that to happen cuz of how decentralization works. Worst case scenario, some of the large instances will fall under the control of zuck or something, and you can just migrate to another instance.

They say zuck wants free content for threads, but it goes both ways I think. Benefiting from the bigger audience of meta while keeping your privacy with mastodon. I hope it works that way.

But twitter is important and influential. It has to be one of the most influential social media platform when it comes to geo-politics. Remember President Trump basically ran his 2016 campaign on Twitter...

Twitter is actually very important in free speech/censorship/narrative alone.

@@chitowncubby27 Twitter has never had free speech. Not under Elon and not under the previous management. Speech gets stifled, the only difference is what speech. Internet platforms typically do not unless you go 4chan type spaces and even they will ban people.

@@chitowncubby27meh…the “fREe SpEeCh” is 4 the most part over exaggerated by muskrat & his manchild mentality.

it doesn't, more advantages? lol, twitter already has the echosystem, threads has a bung of IG-users that wants to venture out their brands. you can't even compare them.

⁠@@stockholmpublishings2937 😂😂 😂 yes, they have their “own ecosystem, “let the crazy,toxic people and bots stay on twitter. Cheers!

Threads is dead

@@AlexMurillo99 and now no one uses threads anymore and you're still at twitter. good call there buddy.

@@stockholmpublishings2937 you mean 25m active daily users 😂😂