Two Cable Tie Methods for CLEAN Wire Organization

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In car audio we have to deal with many wires, especially in SPL builds with many similarly sized power wires running together. We want all these wires to be run in a clean and efficient manner to keep everything organized and clean. It's helpful to bundle wires together as a flat bundle as opposed to all bunched up, but how can we properly do this? Let's find out!
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@Jason____ 4 года назад

Yes - absolutely want to see the round/bundled technique.

@Powatodacarz1 4 года назад

I would also like to see transitioning from the flat bundle to the round bundle for firewalls

@davidspl 4 года назад

Next video places

@PhoenixUnlimited 10 месяцев назад

As a former wire harness operator I appreciate your attention to detail brother. This is one of those trades where being nit picky really does pat off. 😂

@markphilpot4981 4 года назад

Hey Mark, trust me, there isn’t anything like your videos out there showing how to do this with any level of detail like what you show in yours. Any videos that help installers in any way is much appreciated regardless whether they let you know or not. Some people aren’t real keen on saying thank you. I believe that people like yourself need and deserve the thanks you get. Most of these people doing this don’t have your positivity! You don’t get in a hurry like most!

@parkerd619 4 года назад

Taking pride in your work is just as important as doing a good job. Chances are that nobody will see the cables, BUT you know it was done right. I like it!

@buckyshowophe1319 4 года назад

Would rather have it done right and nobody see it than done wrong and everyone seeing it. Plus you know it will be good for years to come

@jasonshaw56 4 года назад

That’s how I have been separating spark plug wires for years. Really clean.

@Conqueef-tadoor 4 года назад

I was just about to say the same thing. 👌 People with Chevy small blocks have been doing this for years.

@BigWill3855 4 года назад

I just made a set of plug wires about a week ago and did this for separators. People that was there were amazed by it.

@omegaterra4511 2 года назад

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@DavidWilson-he8oh 4 года назад

We used to use this same technique when tying up wiring and hoses on our race truck.. the reason we did it this way was because of something you didn’t mention.. we did it because during a race, two wires or hoses held close together by a single zip tie will rub together because of vibration from the road or motor.. enough vibration and the hose or wire coverings can eat through each other, leading to a failure. Great job on your technique! You do quality work!

@joshcosta423 4 года назад

Any kind of wiring tips/tricks is beyond helpful. Everyone needs to know how to do things to the highest standard and what they should be expecting.

@ronjlwhite8058 4 года назад

I use toe nail clippers for cutting cable tys. Been using them for 25 years LOL!!! When I first discovered this method I shared it with the lady's in our panel shop @ work. I bought them all a pair and they were so happy they didn't get all scratched up anymore.

@buckyshowophe1319 4 года назад

Mark DEFINITELY does high quality work! He's the best on RU-vid...

@MrMaxyield 4 года назад

Yes... Do the round wire bundle video...!!! Keep em coming mark...!!! 💪💪👍

@andrewdowns3168 4 года назад

I've been watching your channel for years now and you always amaze me with your clean work. Thank you Mark for the tips! Keep them coming!

@theperfectboys771 4 года назад

u r really a talanted person and i love to see the round bundle

@kflo1219 4 года назад

I agree! I always lay the tie head itself underneath so it’s hidden...AND so you won’t catch them with a finger/hand. 😊

@thebkg 4 года назад

Very Nice. As a Commercial/Residential pro A/V installer for 15 years I appreciate good wire trimming techniques. I've done large complex equipment racks and wired entire buildings. But I've never needed to use a flat ribbon style before. Props Mark! That is both clever and clean! Very impressive.

@coolme241 5 месяцев назад

Definitely gonna use this when I rewire my amps or add a amp

@buckyshowophe1319 4 года назад

Yeah I like knu konceptz that's what most of my wire is. I think they're very underrated idk why they don't get more exposure

@swayhem12 4 года назад

Use some Zip tie mounts throughout the wire, then place a zip tie around the whole thing. Done!

@nicolasdiaz1407 4 года назад

Thanks for the videos! You've given me the confidence to dive into audio and electronics and build a quality OEM+ set up. Going to properly do the "big 3" and upgrade the audio system! You make the learning painless with all your tips and lessons.

@markdipietro3276 Год назад

Great job! Been using zip ties for years and never saw these techniques. I’ll definitely use them. Thanks so much.

@VADER_225 4 года назад

This is awesome...i'm busy collecting equipment to redo my current system in my spark and will definitely be using this trick.

@michaelzernie7092 4 года назад

I used this technique for all my 0 gauge cables. Worked awesome. Looks really good

@boominS10 4 года назад

Learn a lot about how to bundle wires in the aviation industry. It's nice to know how to bundle 100 wires together and put the 4in diameter bun db let through a 3in hole in the firewall of a plain or through the braces of the wings and the rest of the aircraft. Time consuming - yes, but its definitely worth it in the end

@huneycuttdaniel827 3 года назад

That's where all the 4 gauge Kandy Blue cable went! Hey save some for us!

@jjsx5347 4 года назад

Do you ever get the feeling that someone is the best in the world at what they do? Like an athlete, or singer or whatever just by looking at their work? I think this guy wins in his field

@CarAudioFabrication 4 года назад

Far from the best but doing my best to keep advancing. 😃

@thinlobeats2371 2 месяца назад

Love you guys work I’m learning so much to the point i feel like a apprentice n wouldn’t mind working for the company

@StevenJenkins-sh4ne 5 месяцев назад

This is good because according to wiring standards, you have to de rate bunched cables as their heat interacts. Best laid open in air.

@Atlas.X9X 4 года назад

Another excellent video. Your overanalysis is just the right amount of analysis.

@GlycerinZ Год назад

4:18 I think your "over analyzation" is exactly why you should be in car audio. I have a similar attention to detail and I believe it makes a difference!

4 года назад

The second method you showed is good for cornering from the floor or flat surface to the wall and then continue with the first method would be a good way to use it.

@dna59 4 года назад

Great video. I'll be going through my install this weekend and incorporate these ideas for a better look.

@fomocorox1989 4 года назад

Incredibly useful technique. I started doing this and what a difference it makes. Thanks!

@TheKillerMarine 4 года назад

I just installed my first ever amp and was told never to run RCA or speaker wire (ran new speaker wire) near the amp power wire. I had to because my floor has no hump and didn't want someone weight on the wire. So a good video idea is explain why and if you have to how to insulate the power wire from allowing power to "jump" to the RCA or speaker wire. Now to figure out where to mount the amp

@cameltoast 4 года назад

He's mentioned before that you'd want to cross the wires at 90 degrees if possible. Think 4 way intersection as opposed to a two lane highway. I've done that before out necessity but had a lot of noise, and the sound quality suffered. I'd say if you don't have noise in your music don't worry about it.

@TheKillerMarine 4 года назад

@@cameltoast see I'm in a quad cab (suicide door) 01 Ram. I ran the RCA and passenger side speaker cable down the passenger side (under sill) and the power, remote turn on, and left side speaker wires down the driver side (under sill). I get no noise but do get kind of wonky at 32-35 on my Kenwood headunit

@BicZippo 4 года назад

Yeah let’s get that round bundle video going! Great video and thanks for mentioning this level of detail isn’t something to expect on a flat rate job!

@l.v.sinester3314 2 года назад

Thank u I'm doing this right now 🙂... We need Genius like you .. 🙂👍

@stevenp.sparks2953 3 года назад

"Over-analyzing things" like zip-ties...... I like you already!.....lolol Sparks in Daytona

@Fklv1988 Год назад

Thanks for always thoroughly explaining, and giving understandable instructions I am a newbie to this audio scene you make things make sense. Thanks for your contribution to the community.

@johnd6258 4 года назад

The cable comb method! Love doing this. Also, think about rotating the lock head underneath the comb instead of on top. IMHO it makes it more sano looking.

@DrJuice-we5vc 4 года назад

You can also use velcro. We use that for low voltage racks for a/v, fire, and security

@jeremyfranko8290 2 года назад

Desperately needed to know this for my own personal install amazing trick ty sir!👍

@mjennings97 4 года назад

Saw the thumbnail and liked

@STOPH3R01991 4 года назад

I want to see an in depth video on sealing at the b pillar for a wall. There's so many people that use different ways, that really don't explain it that well or seem like it's way more work than necessary.

@001dman 4 года назад

Same way I run nylon fuel line when doing repairs on fuel line rot. Works great for anything round really

@GahhDamnAlex 4 года назад

A video on how to use certain grommets for all sorts of car audio installations would be cool.

@oscarcuevassn95saleemzr12 4 года назад

Thanks Mark I like this method 👍✌😎🙋‍♂️

@adamarmstrong8845 4 года назад

I know you have done this before, but I would like to see another build from beginning to end. I love details so being as detailed and OCD as possible would be great for me.

@diversify210 4 года назад

This is great. The only problem with this would be for car audio stores. Little details like this take time. Time is money and most people aren't willing to pay the additional labor time involved in going to such great detail on ones vehicle, because they cant appreciate the extra time involved in details like this. At the time I think I was charging 55-65 an hour for labor. How many people you think are willing to pay an extra 120 bucks for 2 more hours of labor so we can work out the little details like this on their car. They arent. They would gladly have it for free, because it looks nice, but they have no appreciation for the extra time involved in going into such great detail, thus they arent willing to pay for it.

@CarAudioFabrication 4 года назад

I'm not sure if you watched the whole video, but I made sure to mention this. One of my biggest pet peeves is how everyone seems to think a custom built one off sub box should cost the same as a mass produced $45 prefab. People have no understanding of manufacturing. The channel helps show how much work is behind the scenes that cost time and money. And there are people willing to pay for higher quality, the most valuable lesson I ever learned is not everyone needs to be your customer, if someone can't accept your high level of quality and pay accordingly, they don't need to be your customer, business works both ways. Has to be a win win.

@TomZ23 4 года назад

While flush cutters are nice. I've been using a set of nail clippers and they work very well.

@LTVoyager 21 день назад

Other than using zip ties in place of proper wire lacing cord, nice work. I much prefer lacing cord as it is lighter, cheaper, nearly as fast and looks much nicer with no sharp ends to snag the next person who works on the harness.

@Michael-jj2xl 4 года назад

Question. I know RMS power is the wattage a speaker can handle without any distortion for long periods of time, but is this power rating the same at all frequencies? Is a frequency sweep done to a speaker and then an average RMS power is calculated, or is this the power the speaker can handle at any frequency it's rated at?

@PANTYEATR1 4 года назад

great video Mark. I've been doing this with spark plug wires for years💪

@jamiefenner123 3 года назад

A good substitute to flush cuts are a sharp bladed knife takes a touch longer but just as good

@CarAudioFabrication 3 года назад

The pair I like that is listed in the video description is very inexpensive, one slip with a knife and you damage a wiring harness or the interior. If you are going to do things do them right.

@jenner6989 4 года назад

Panduit tie wrap gun. Love mine

@jacobmay7594 4 года назад

Sweet video. I think a good video would be making a regular car trunk capable of handling a generic box install. All too often guys buy a box that fits into the trunk and jam it in their and call it good, while the box sits tilted over a spare wheel cover that's caving in. Addressing how to make a floor for the trunk to support the box and how to secure the box to it along with amp securing and such.

@markdupre4854 2 года назад

Great video, very well presenting and explained.

@rapdfyr1 4 года назад

I sometimes use that technique with spark plug wires.If you geek out on gadgets like I do,Check out the KTI 76000 zip tie tool. Really handy when doing a lot of cable ties.

@jetjazz05 4 года назад

This might sound weird, but I find the BLACK nylon zip ties last the longest. They make translucent nylon ones as well, but I have in several cases used them for automotive purposes and come back years later to have them be brittle. The black ones in my experience avoid becoming brittle due to fuel and oil exposure.

@mikepipes6266 4 года назад

Hey Mark, great video! I use a Glowforge laser to cut acrylic wire organizers that have simple snap-fit bosses for the wires. You can make them in flat or bundled or whatever profile you like, and can also solvent weld bases to them for double sided tape mounting!

@aaronpeople101 4 года назад

I would be interested in the round bundle, thanks for the cool video!

@shaunkoger4550 4 года назад

Nice tip I’ve always Struggle with wiring

@ze_german2921 3 года назад

I always do my Sparkplug wires this way

@8SPAZZ 11 месяцев назад

Maven harness plugs, Rob Dahm used similar in his RX-7 build, i think you’d appreciate his video

@dalejohnson9342 4 года назад

I wonder why you have not discussed the method used in the 40s and early 50s? You use a very large grade of thread and use half hitches down the length interspersed with a weave design to keep the wires flat. The system works great and you can use any color of heavy thread in order to add or accentuate colors in the area you are laying the wires. The other reason to use this method is to add some chaffing protection to the wires when they go around some object or area that has the potential to chafe or cut the insulation on the wires and therefore reduce the chance of shorts or electrical fires.

@davidspl 4 года назад

Cool video keep coming the good info.

@bradgilpin9740 4 года назад

Yes please show us!!!!

@rtorres675 4 года назад

Great tips man very clean work!

@MooretheBetter51 4 года назад

If the round bundle is made using the concentric twisting method used in motorsports, do it. I figured that must be it because of the flexibility you get while retaining the shape of the bundle

@GriffinWallTheFlyingLion 4 года назад

Yes definatly would like to see the circle bundle, could you do a video on smaller wires where a zip tie may not work, ie wrapping a custom bundle, always wanted to know what product to use instead of nasty electrical tape.

@exero4738 2 года назад

nice video, just wanted to say it's even worse if the ziptie ends up damaging a cable after improperly cutting it

@danielramirez837 4 года назад

Woww, mark . I love all of your videos and really enjoy watching them . Thank u for this technique. Iam going to incorporate this to my new install . :)

@midnight-xpress1136 4 года назад

It's not over analyzing, but rather attention to detail.

@Richard-wk9le 4 года назад

If you want to see how to bundle large amounts of wires together look to the aircraft industry and you will see it at a whole another level.

@turboflush 4 года назад

Of course we would like to see

@Hertzsogood219 4 года назад

Very helpful video. Makes me want to re-tie all my wires under the hood.

@buckyshowophe1319 4 года назад

It's worth it bruh

@Hertzsogood219 4 года назад

@@buckyshowophe1319 I'm gonna today. Supposed to be 70. Perfect day to do it. I also have other issues I have to fix. Bass breaking shit.

@dbCarbon 4 года назад

I love your videos! Can you do a video on trunk side panel fiberglass boxes? Almost all of them are the same with a molded back, fleece stretched over a ring, and body filler to blend the side gaps. Noone does beautiful front beauty board panels that you're really good at to make them look factory. You did the jeep one, but that's a little too simple.

@IAutoEnthusiast 4 года назад

Yes. Another video please

@25hztolife86 4 года назад

Audison connection fused positive battery terminal is available where? Your other video doesn't have a link. Can I change the mini fuse than the one that is included?

@vb5457 7 месяцев назад

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 what about when you have a subwoofer enclosure how would you wire the box , how to???

@hevendranarayansamy2793 4 года назад

Yes please show us the round bundle technique

@lowhertzhighspl 4 года назад

Great video idea! Next idea: amp racks WITHOUT a router or table saw or 3d printer please. In an SUV, attached to box, etc

@buckyshowophe1319 4 года назад

That's for wood, but what about metal?

@TheNiner29er 4 года назад

Waxed Lacing Cord, that's what I would use.

@ryanjackson8898 4 года назад

Yes we want round bundle guide

@e7lde7 4 года назад

Thanks bro

@davisrodriguez9502 4 года назад

Love your page.

@madhatterstunts Год назад

The zip tie to scratch you? You have flush cuts for that exact reason. Lol

@360lateflip 4 года назад

If you have a small pick you can open the zip tie up and reuse it instead of cutting it if you rip it too tight

@Bimmer2047 4 года назад

those are great tricks. ive used them for years. but i have to balance my OCD need for it to be clean and allowing things to be serviceable. i outfit cop cars for a living and the configurations change so often in a cop car that our rule is only put cable ties in places you can see. if you put a cable tie under the carpet that is then under the back seat cage and i need to pull that wire out for any reason. i now have to strip the ENTIRE interior out of the car to cut 1 cable tie!! pretty much sucks. food for thought

@dylanbester4554 Год назад

what is the brand of the cabling /wiring (colourful ones) ? thanks

@bradgilpin9740 4 года назад

A situation I am dealing with right now is having a very small area inside my dash. Some tips on how to fit T harnesses and modules in a tight dash. Maybe showing how to extend the wires to relocate the module or something. Please help me with some ideas!!!!

@chevy_guys_bayarea 4 года назад

Todo lo que este amigo enseña de gratis solo por ver sus vídeos! Hay personas que cobran fuertes cantidades por enseñarlos en los países como México por ejemplo ricardo Rangel en sus entrenamientos

@odaddy47 4 года назад

Awesome tips, I’m the same way, I have OCD

@johnebuckland 4 года назад

😍🤤 More of this please

@stenapproved8285 4 года назад

This is important

@davidandlaurie1 4 года назад

@RONIN_1982 9 месяцев назад

Big like 👍

@explorenaked Год назад

You have a 3D printer. I would love to see you use some sort of cool 3d printed wire guide.

@tylerross2968 4 года назад

I would like to see the round bundle just for the difference

@patrickjohnson6259 4 года назад

I don’t think I’ve seen a video of you doing it yet so how about a battery relocation to trunk with the big 3 upgrade?

@jamesgriffin2170 4 года назад

I've done this with sparkplug wires

@thebkg 4 года назад

Future Request: Mark, I've noticed you use ported enclosures almost exclusively. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the audible and performance differences between ported and sealed. I know you've touched on this some in the past, but I'd be interested in more an experiential point of view and why you personally prefer ported. 20 years ago I really loved the sound of a JL Audio W1 12 in a sealed box. But I've been out of the CA game for a long time and I'd like to hear from people on the Musical differences more than the response curve. What makes you like ported over sealed?

@crx122 4 года назад

You get way more bang for your buck with ported enclosures, sealed subs have to work much harder to produce the same volume as ported. If you have a quality ported box, you still get great sound quality. IMO sealed boxes are really only good for two things: if you have limited space, as ported boxes are WAY BIGGER; you can often times get a sealed box for 2 subwoofers for the same size as 1 ported sub. The other reason is if you are purely about sound quality and not really into "boomy" bass. I think that unless you fall into those two categories, that a QUALITY ported box beats sealed all day long. The reason you remember such great sound from what you referenced is because JL Audio subwoofers are fucking amazing period, it would have sounded great in a ported box too. They are overpriced to all hell, but they rank right up there with the greatest subwoofers I have ever heard. Sorry if your question wasn't really directed at me, as I am not a "professional." I am however someone who has been into car audio for a very long time, knows the ins and outs, and has a real passion for it. Actually just got done doing a two week long install in my brand new car.

@thebkg 4 года назад

Don't mind at all Dennis. I actually fall into both of those categories. Well , for the build I'm planning for my G37 I'm limited on space. But music wise I'm all about sound quality. I spent 25 years running live sound and 15 years installing full size houses of worship (along with business and residential) audio visual systems. And I'm extremely detailed in both my designs and system tuning. I wasn't asking so much for the sake of my next build (and admittedly my first in more years than I want to post) but more for hearing his viewpoints and perceptions. Even if I don't agree I value Mark's opinions. For the G37 though the trunk space is limited, and I'm a single car owner so I can't convert the entire space into a boom box. Lol! I'm planning to use a single JL 12" TW3 in a sealed up firing box. Should only use the front half of the trunk depth (from driver perspective), leaving me the back half to drop the floor down. Loosing the spare tire obviously. That's the plan for now anyways.