and yet, no one makes the argument that submission isn't a thing. Whatever the polar opposite of submissive is, what do they want to call it? It's dominance.
@@ColdestRage303 yeah I forget who I was watching, someone was talking about truly dominant dogs and that they're chill most of the time until they don't want to do something, and then they're ready to stand their ground in a way that can ugly. For general purposes though submissive-dominant is a spectrum and most dogs are somewhere closer to the middle.
@@ColdestRage303 Well, it's all on a scale so they're on the dominant side instead of the submissive side. Yours sounds further up the scale. Regardless he was arguing against the people that say that dominance isn't even a thing to begin with, and that it's debunked that dogs like yours are wired the way they are etc etc.
@@ColdestRage303 "Like in a wolfpack the other dominant wolf will go to fight the alpha one day for leadership." That's been debunked. Well, no, not completely. This behavior was observed in replaced wolfs that were thrown together in enclosed parks. This led to the assumption that it must work the same with dogs. Then it was discovered that natural wolf packs don't display this social dynamic at all. That led to people claiming that no dominance is ever a thing. The truth is complicated. Dogs are not really trying to take over the house. To me it sounds like you based your training completely on dominance, rather than leadership, and that resulted in the dog rebelling against you. Perhaps you punished him too much, and he had enough and didn't take it anymore. (Like he perceived your command as incoming punishment). Not saying this is what happened, but that's how I can imagine a dog attacking its owner. I've never heard of a dog that's raised properly going against its owner. It's pretty much unheard of.
I'm glad you pointed out the nose touching, because I might have thought it was just a coincidence, but you showed it was definitely intentional communication. I also noticed when they ganged up on a dog they'd take different paths to try to corner them. It seemed like it could be very dangerous if there was nobody around.
I swear Prince knows EXACTLY what he’s doing at all times and is probably the most calculated, intuitive animal I’ve ever seen..period. I mean literally. It’s wild watching his micro movements and how he almost psychically knows what to do, when, and what’s expected of him. It’s wildly impressive. I’ve never seen a dog like that before.
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i saw two kangal siblings kill 3 dogs out of nothing. i saw this dogs everyday playing. Suddenly something weird happened. They chased and killed 3 dogs so fast together it was insane. First time i thought some dogs cant be held in flats and cities.
I love this type of training. I'm tired of the bad dog owners crying about any discipline. Especially the ones who let their dogs run around and bite people and think their dog is just friendly because it's obviously friendly to the owner.
Some people don’t understand the difference between discipline and hitting/abuse. That grab with Jax was a great example, discipline without hurting. It’s the dog version of a time out.
@@Robynhoodlum My dog learned the most when I would be clearly disappointed in him. When he was learning to camp with my family ( a lot of people and a lot of dogs ) he was mean to some dogs while playful with others. Any time he got aggressive to a dog, i would simply put him in the kennel "time out". Disconnecting them from the pack when they do wrong, goes a long way in my experience. My dog doesn't like being disconnected from the pack. But if he can't play by my rules, then he doesn't get to be apart of the pack. After a 15-30 min time out. He comes out and is playful with the dogs that he was aggressive with.
@@MrZZsharka "when he was learning to camp" is a lot more different than taking a dog for a simple walk. There's a lot more going on during a camping trip than there is on walks. Sorry I didn't explain that this was over two years ago, and on top of that i've paid for classes.
Yep, I saw them turn from two separate dogs into one team of hunters. The sister instigated it and the brother followed. That check-in was a clear sign of “let’s hunt, fight, but together”.
Ive seen this before in person. I live next door to a family that has 2 free roam big dogs. They are brothers and they had a incident a few years ago where they attacked a smaller dog and started to eat him alive. The owner of the smaller dog tried to scare them off with a stick but they didn’t care. She got in her car and acted like she was going to run them over and that’s when they left. The smaller dog made it to the vet, but they ate his entire abdomen and he didn’t make it. They are still free roam btw. Oh, and no other murders happened since. They attacked my elderly dog before, but they were chased off.
@@Wobblyrage it really was. They weren’t always bad dogs of course, they were abused by the male owner. Luckily, he got throat cancer and failed to treat it. I kinda think that’s part of the reason they calmed down with the attacks. Oh, and they still are very sweet puppies, at least to women. They recently protected my other neighbors dog after she was hit by a car. Sat with her the whole time until people started helping her.
Love this. People have a misconception that dogs think the way we do. This isn’t mean at all. If you wanna train dogs you have to be top dog. You have to understand and teach them in ways they understand. Which is dominance. Dogs don’t get reason like we do. They understand cause an affect. Or action and reaction.
IMO dogs understand cause effect much better bc there is no hidden agenda as in humans. There’s no guessing about ulterior motives and they mostly live in the moment.
Now my world is going back to where I started. I trained like you- then I went to get my training certification. Worked 3 years for a facility that barked at me that dominance isn't real- never be rough handed-never stand your ground. Treats and praise only. This- this is what makes sense to me and has always made sense.
A huge problem is that people don't recognize dog body language. Once you understand it the lens at which you view dogs completely changes. All the subtle motions, head moves, eye contact, posturing etc etc. It becomes crystal clear. The nose touch was like when wrestlers in a tag team match high five. It's was basically a "ok let's do this".
Absolutely. They are about to start hunting. I would not let those two dogs live in the same household together. They are a very effective team with the female being the instigator and the male being her back up. Very bad situation.
@@BDTraining I love that cause its like you almost forget what you are doing here. Like all you want to do it illustrate animal behaviour and animal/human interaction. Then as you say you are done. That's the video. I was gonna say we are in school here only not all of us consider you the teacher. But you are the teacher. That why I subscribed. Best to you.
When the 2 siblings get back together & nose bump, you can almost hear them thinking "RIGHT, the Pack is together again, GAME ON!!" Such a powerful pair & mental bond, their owners really, REALLY need to learn your methods before someone gets hurt.
The nose touch is very interesting. You don't see many dogs do that in that way. I'm friends with the owners of my first dog's sister and brother. They're close friends, basically these two grew up together. They also do that nose touch, and they've hunted a lot of rabbits together up until the point that they started killing deer. They were definitely two souls with one mind until the owners were "over it."
@@Aswodel In a lot of places like Germany, nothing. You can even get some of the meat. In the Netherlands it's forbidden, and you have to pay huge fines. I personally feel it's only wrong if you don't have full control over them. I'd love to go to Germany and let my dog bring me dinner :D But only that what I allow.
@@Aswodel Here where I am from people have special professions and are allowed to shoot a dog that chases a deer or anything else. So you gotta teach them from the very start that they can’t chase. A little different case are hunter dogs. If you have a permit your dog can hunt with you.
@@Aswodel If the owner didn't command them to. If they decide to hunt deer on their own, what's stopping them from hunting other similar or smaller sized creatures, say an unattended little human?
dang u definitely The Boss! The way you are able to see/interpret/respond so quickly is endlessly fascinating. There is so much good teaching in every single video. 🐾❤️
Hi, I'm Ljiljana from Serbia (my name is hard to pronounce in English :) ). I have a femail mixed breed dog, Bertha, who I adopted during the Corona virus pandemic. I reviewed a bunch of your videos and they helped me tremendously especially with the leash walking and while meeting other dogs but also in identifying the "problems" of my dog. You are wonderful and more importantly, your methods are efficient and easy to apply. I am very grateful!
Fantastic content and commentary throughout. I love hearing Joel's masterclasses in dog body language - they're a privilege to watch. Just today I saw a local purely positive training group posting a tick-list meme from COAPE talking about (amongst other things) saying yes to "trainers who train with rewards, treats and play" and no to trainers who "use leash corrections" and "talk about dominance." There is no way this group will EVER have encountered dogs like this brother and sister! And I hope for everyone's sakes they never do, frankly! This brother and sister would end up killing another dog - and possibly badly injure a human while they were about it - if the only training approaches were "rewards, treats and play"! Yes, maybe when they were LITTLE ... but for heaven's sake, not now! Another of my favourite multi-approach trainers often talks about meeting the dog's behaviour with commensurate reaction ... not too over the top and not too soft, but equal. Which is just like Joel, who we've all seen will have a hugely different approach than what he's using in this video to young or nervous dog. In other words, you have to meet fire with fire to fix a huge problem ... not with a tiny squirt gun of water!
amen!! perfect point about reacting with equal energy. a correction should always reflect the offensive action. dont want to be too soft so it doesnt land, but not also over the top when its not needed. theres definitely a balance to be found.
Joel you really are an artist in the way you deal with dogs. I'm sure you occasionally get it wrong. But I bet it's pretty damn rare. The way you communicate power with dogs is amazing. And of course in that power you provide safety and security and that then calms everything down.
I absolutely loved this footage, prince completely trusts joel also for him to be safe. And in this environment this other dog has every opportunity to thrive and be safe. And that is wonderful
As a owner of large breeds that are well trained and socialised. I absolutely applaud this man. this the way to do things. In a world full of self proclaimed dog trainers that are clueless prats it is refreshing to see this gentleman. Keep it up Beckman's! More folk need to learn and watch your videos now I recommend random folk with little shit bag dogs your channel. Society today is far to weak and they forget dogs are pack animals and descended from wolves 👌all need a alpha and you radiate it dogs respect you as do I. Best regards. Keep it up disprove all these self proclaimed tiktok and RU-vid toolends making dogs worse and not educating the owners also
Could have watched more of that. I get so resentful of dogs that ignore people. It's very satisfying seeing these dogs being put back in their place. Boy they look pleased with themselves though don't they!
Brilliant, Joel - yes, 2 dogs, strongly bonded, living together... I have that, too, and they do act as one single organism; very different dynamic than when it's just 1. That started when I brought the younger dog home as a puppy - the older German Shepherd had never been close to another dog in our home, but with that new puppy, things clicked; and they had this connection, almost instantly. And even though the older one is not dog-aggressive - she tries to be when the younger one is play-bowing to the neighbor's dog at the gate, for instance: That happened yesterday, the older dog saw the other 2 dogs having a friendly meet and sniff at the gate, and she rushed down, all hackled up, growling and barking. Of course, we strongly corrected this, but jeeez, Joel, just imagine these were 2 massive American Bulldogs like the ones you are dealing with. Things could get pretty nasty pretty quick. You're a hero man, much admiration and respect.
Joel for some reason while I was typing a previous message to you it disappeared. So - just want you to know - you are my hero now - when it comes to disciplining dogs. I have a 11 yr. old Boxer (the love of my life) and a 6 yr. old Shiba Inu (a royal pain.) They are best friends. Thanks so much for all the help you've given me. God bless you my friend.
This brother is on the ball . This is exactly how you train your alpha dog .. salute . My puppy *140lbs 4 year American bulldog x presa* trained to be off leash and well submissive to me while my dog understands what my expectations are with him . 💯
Another t-shirt saying: There is only one boss -- and it's me! Haha. I want one that reads: Every walk is a training session. This was a great video -- informative.
I’m so glad I watched this video a while ago which helped me save my dog today. I saw exactly the same situation where a pair of dog touched nose before they were running towards mine. I was on high alert when I saw the nose touch and those dogs didn’t come to greet, they went straight to my dog’s neck and I yelled to intervene as soon as they were trying to bite. Luckily my yelling scared them off, and that owner has the audacity telling me they were only trying to say hello. No, I have a lab and I know how dogs say hello to each other, showing teeth and attacking the neck is not saying hello!
Just found your channel. This is really something special to watch. I grew up with dogs and my dad and I would train them. As a teen I worked with and trained horses. Sometimes it's critical to be assertive and do things that might look rough, and it's unfortunate how that can be seen as taboo. But when you're dealing with animals that have the ability or intent to be aggressive or dangerous, it's not something you can just be nice and soft about. It's important to be the one in charge. Anyway, this is amazing to watch and I've already learned a lot from just a couple videos.
Just the reasserting of the dominancy of the dominant male without yelling screaming hitting any effortless motion of energy being spent other than the repetition of the consistent conveying
As someone who's owned dominant dogs for most of my life, I gotta say, you do a really excellent job. And the videos and explanations are also really well done. For the first time, I have a relatively submissive dog now. And only 35lbs at that. And since I can now finally let my guard down a little bit, it's really cool to watch these vids and reflect on ways I've had to handle a dog in the past. Realizing some of my own errors, and putting them into better practice with a dog who's more under control, potential aggression wise.
He's respecting boundaries after the consistent interception. This is important knowledge to know for example if you went out and something happened to the treats, you know what to do/ expect.
I train my dogs balanced, but I used to be positive only, and maybe it's just because I've grown in experience but I've personally found it's VERY hard to motivate positive only dogs if you have no food, especially dogs who've never been weaned off food markers and are given markers everytime. My bf's dog is like this and my senior used to be like this before I started re-training her. Compared to my balanced raised puppy who works regardless of if there's food involved or not
@@kieran7173 same I did this before with high energy dogs and it had to be done constantly with basically no stopping at all. The food is basically necessary.
I am happy to see these 2 again-I was wondering how they are doing 🐶. Thanks for sharing a continuation!! Joel- after what day in your board & train was this video taken? They are certainly a challenging pair, which probably no other trainer in SD would take on except YOU 🎉 I can’t wait to see their transformation after they complete their B&T with you!
Awesome video! Stopping two powerful and dominant dogs when they team up on other dogs that s amazing! The only person who could fix my male dog from being aggressive towards other males is you Joel! I regret I don t live in the US! Great job on this video!
Such great results in such a short video. Love your method. I've been raised around dogs my entire life, and still I have implemented more of your method in the last year and a half than anyone elses
Your vids have made a huge impact on my training. I have a 9 mth pretty dominant male border collie (intact). Whilst positive reinforcement helped for basic command/obedience training, the more assertive approach to build respect and leadership has made him a much calmer dog, and now he's doing great even as a teen pup. Keep it up mate.
Yeah I have 2 corsos and good dogs not super great trained. But very well behaved. My cousin brought his shepherd and was surprised they didn't jump and all that stuff. Told him I treat them like my kids. Strict with love. And recommended your channel 👍🏾
Yesss! Same with my kids! We as parents have to let them know there are consequences in life. Action=consequence, good or bad. It’s their choice. I taught them that early.
Your absolutely right! They always need to be checked and told. Have a six year old one dominant dog and can just not stand around in dog park and not pay attention. Thank you great demonstration
SHOUT OUT TO JOEL! You are most definitely one of the best trainers out there - especially for the working/herding type breeds. What stands out most compared to many other trainers is your remarkable attention to body language, training approach that caters to a dog's natural social behavior rather than ours, and training steps that are clear, concise, and produce surprising fast results. I am very happy you are an online resource in the sea of 'safe space' purely positive reinforcement trainers all over the internet that would never be able to improve the dogs you improve.
Great video! Would love to see more of these two being worked together. I'm going through the same thing with brother and sister Great Danes... 180 and 130 lbs respectively and one year apart... well behaved when separate but constantly "checking in" and amping up when together. Your videos have been a lifesaver and given me a lot more control on our walks (just walking them both on the same side has been a game changer), but off-leash dog parks and trails remain a challenge. Not only am I dealing with my own dogs' issues, but I have to contend with many more untrained and unsocialized dogs as the parks and training facilities were closed for more than a year due to COVID. We moved from San Diego back to Atlanta several years ago, but are planning a road trip back to SD next year, and I'm thinking our first stop might have to be a training session with Joel before we head to Fiesta Island!
I've just found this channel a few days ago, and I love it. All you hear about is, as you said, the give them treats, kind of training. This is how you speak canine language. Thanks for showing us how it's done. There will likely be a hell of a lot of better dog owners as a result. Myself included.
Glad I found your videos. My American Bulldogs are 2 and litter mates. They fought a dog to protect me and since then twice they have fought each other. I’m “over it” as you say. Glad for this help.
Great video! Can you do more with siblings & multiple dogs? Rough play, walking multiple dogs, making friends, when to train separately vs together. I have 2 GS/lab mix sisters. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
wanna know what i love the most about this show/channel, you actually show all your cases and not just "dangerous" breeds or restricted ones, its any dog, like some dogs that pop up reload my memory cause i forgot the breeds even existed, its good to see because most trainers have the same typical dogs in, making it look so much worse for them
Hi I a English Bullterrier male that was a very calm and loving dog.One day I opened my gate and out of the blue my dog ran out and attacked my neighbor.He grabbed him by the arm and injured him.Luckily I ran after him immediately when he started running.I manage to get him off quickly. After that he became very aggressive towards people.One day I was putting him away because he was barking and acting very aggressive towards my Uncle that visited me.I tried putting him away then he jumped and bit me. After watching your dominance video I realized that I am not the boss and that he is. I used 3 of your videos to change the pack oder.After a month he now knows I am the boss.I have a consistant recall even if he wants to act aggressive.I can stop him from becoming aggressive.I am still working with him but he is a completely different dog. I just want to say thank you very much.
Wow very cool to see someone was able to turn their dog around. I love to know more about what you specifically did and how to avoid this. I have a 12 week old American bulldog and start worrying like I'm not gonna be cut out for this.
AHHH yup the nose touch. a little "you wanna get em?" "yup, lets get em." you can even see the brother immediately watching and reacting to the sister's lead right after. as others are saying, these duo would be dangerous unsupervised.
Outstanding video as many of us have siblings dogs. Yes siblings become a team and they feed off each other. Thanks for helping us know how to recognize this behavior and defuse
I love this channel so much! You are able to articulate what I know to be true, even in the realm of humans! As a human I'm able to learn so much from you and solidify what I already know about healthy human interaction when dealing with not so desirable people. You be nice, you be respectful, but you never let someone walk all over you or intimidate you.
This was fantastic. You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, not like you need to be told, but this was a great way to show different looks, the tag team aspect was right on this was awesome!!!!
It is wierd that you have to explain over and over again that dogs who are dominant and reactive can't do whatever they want !!! For me it has been like a normal/ logical thing from the start !!! You are doing fantastic job !!
Agreed! I didn’t use this video (as I’m just now seeing it), but same techniques for my newly adopted female bulldog. She tried asserting dominance over our male Great Dane. These techniques really do work. We have two dogs who enjoy each other’s company now..and we will watch more of his videos
Excellent work I had an American Bulldog then rescued one off the street who was half feral. Both were 2 big guys. I was never able to completely control the adoptive one. Finally had to extract his canines or give him away because kept misdirection his aggression to my older boy. He lived with us 6 years but had to be put down due to cancer. RIP in peace León.
Best trainer I've ever seen. I know soany people who try and treat there dogs and train there dogs like they're people and never get anywhere with them
I watched the first 10 seconds of your video and I already approve. This is how I am with my dog. He’s my baby but I am very stern and take no crap from him.
I was watching this and my puppy was running around playing, he heard sit and watched the rest of the video with me 😂😂😂😂 Thank you for the amazing videos ❤
Omg!! I love how you teach!! I continue to pause your videos to comment, because I agree so much and am learning a lot, but also being called by the fact that what I am doing, is correct to your methods 😊👍
Excellent video! One of the reasons I am so fond of this channel is because Joel documents stuff like this. Not only does he show behaviors like this and the body language that goes along with it but he shows us how to work through it and progress and help our dogs.🙏
Prince is such a good dog. No matter how many times I see you figure out and change these other dogs, your Prince will always stun me. What a great dog!!
I have been waiting and looking for this video to teach me how to work my two female sisters. They are amazing ladies, but together they are mean. Thank you so much
What a good looking doberman. I used to help abused dogs to learn how to socialise with the help of my doberman. We even helped rescued wiled cats. :) how lovely
Those two are like Hansel and Gretel ..the badass version. You can absolutely see the moment these two look each other dead in the eye and go “Let’s Fk Sht UP” And then..chaos
Sir, you are so on point about the stubborn attitude of american bull dogs. Our girl is stubborn, headstrong, and picky about male dogs and men of an older age. It is an workout to make sure she is focused on us. Of all my dogs she has been the hardest to socialize out side of our home. I know the reason she is hard around some men. She was traumatized by my husband's sudden death and for a few yrs she associated men of a certain age with a negative attitude. (she also picks up negative attitudes very quickly of people) We have over came most of it but it is still hard to introduce her to new dogs. Loved seeing how you worked with those two naughty siblings.
Great video Joel best part is your acute observation and timing with the correction...that is the key. The dog's tail is wagging so he is calm and connected with you regardless, before, you did not exist. Very noticeable how effective your method of training is....it has authority and respect....no wishy washy boundaries
@@User7688.--_ Yea, I'm wondering if the owners watched the whole series?! :-) As somone who named their dog after a book/tv character, though, I get it.
I’ve got a 4yr old submissive male American Bully/APBT mix and a 1yr old female corgi who is extremely dominant. She regularly instigates rough play and this is giving me a lot of great tips
