@@TeddyBaldassarre I have the Presage 'Negroni' cocktail watch and it also has a dial that is drop-dead beautiful in person. Seiko's Presage line has some really high-end finishes (the enamel and porcelain dials are exquisite, and the Presage does offer the Spring-Drive on some high-priced models).
I have the Tokiwa green Sharp Edge and it is so beautiful it hurts! Far more entertaining than the non-offensive, middle of the road Tissot. Collectors want watches that evoke emotion and a connection to something special - this head to head is a no brainer. I got 25% at my AD so my Seiko was cheaper than the Tissot, too!
Owned them both! Tissot in black though. Both amazing. The Seiko is as close as you can get to a GS for the money and the case and dial are incredible. The Tissot yes slightly better in movement but more difficult to service. The lume In real life is much better on the seiko. This is the hardest decision in this range....hense I bought them both!
I've had the Tissot Gentleman for 8 months now and I absolutely love it. Accuracy is outstanding. Out of the box -1.7 seconds per day, but after wearing it daily for a few months, it has become even more accurate. From 15th of december to 28th of february -7 seconds. That's just insane! Maybe I just got lucky who knows. Teddy, your videos are fantastic!
I’m at work, wearing my Tissot Gentlemen Powermatic 80. See this video and am ready to see what Teddy has to say about it again. The first video he did made me buy it lol. It’s a Datejust/Aqua Terra hybrid in my opinion. Pure class
An excellent alternative to the Aqua Terra. I can’t justify spending on an Omega at the stage of life i’m in, but the Gentleman is an amazing watch by itself and definitely a great alternative to my dream Aqua Terra. 🔥
I own both of these, but the Seiko in the white dial and the Tissot in the black. They're both really great watches. There are a couple of noteworthy things that the video doesn't mention. The indices and border around the date aperture on the Tissot are finished remarkably well. The indices sit rather tall and give the dial a lot more depth and a more premium look. That's not to say the indices aren't good on the Seiko, they're certainly a step up from what you'd find on a Sarb, for example. The next thing is the dual deployant clasp on the Tissot works really well and the watch wears really comfortably and the flush look of the bracelet where it comes together is really great. Again, the Seiko's clasp is better than what you see on a Sarb or a comparable model, but it's not quite as good as the Tissot. The Tissot is a finger print magnet. The sapphire, the bezel, the polished center links pick up tons of finger prints. The Seiko, with more brushed surfaces and a flat sapphire does a lot better in this category. Finally, the Seiko's super hardened coating seems to be working well. I've had the watch for a little over a month now and normally I would have picked up some swirl marks from my desk on the clasp or the outside of bracelet, however, the watch still doesn't have a single scratch on it. If I had to choose one of these watches to keep, I'd keep the Tissot, but if I wound up with the Seiko I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
I just purchased the Tissot Gentleman and I’m simply blown away at the quality. It looks amazing in person and I’ve already received a dozen compliments. I’ve spent easily 5 times as much on other watches and have never had an automatic keep such accurate time. There has only been one worry I’ve had with the watch so far - when hand winding the crown will sometimes become stiff and I can hear the rotor spinning a bit. Probably nothing, but I hope this doesn’t affect the movement. Overall, this is my dream watch and I don’t want to take it off.
Really loved the look of the Tissot when it came out, but I personally think the Seiko looks so much nicer. Would love to try them side by side on the wrist.
I love the Gentleman. I had the blue dial, but needed a silver dial to add to my watch roll. I went to my AD, thinking the Aqua Terra would knock my socks off, and it just didn’t. I bought the silver dial Gentleman and pocketed the $4000 savings and I’m super happy with both of them. A BB36 blue dial and a BBBB and I’m done for now. Super happy with this Tissot, I think they knocked it out of the park and obviously the whole watch market agrees.
I’ve owned the silver dial Gentleman for a year now, incredible product for the money. Looks great on a leather strap. Of note: Tissot actually COSC certifies this same movement in a different watch they offer, I’m guessing they chose not to for the Gentlemen Powermatic to keep the price where it is.
Got the black Sharp Edge. Awesome fit and finish. The dial is superb, really plays with the angle and light. At a certain angle, the dial looks solid black then shows its great texture in another one. Just wow.
Walked into a Seiko boutique hoping to get my hands on the SPB167, but ended up with the SPB227J1 - that red and black dial was simply gorgeous, and IMHO blew the blue dial out of the water.
As a Swiss guy, I'm unashamed to say how much I love Seiko watches. I love the history behind the company and hope to get a Grand Seiko somewhere in the future. Those smooth spring drive movements haunt my dreams in the best way possible...
They are both gorgeous. I slightly preferred the dial and more minimal looking bezel on the Seiko, but for a dress and non dress situation the Tissot might be more versatile...maybe it's better to have both!! Great comparison!👏
Nice comparison, I would go for the Tissot because I like the silicone balance spring and service wise here were I live is easier to service a swiss movement. Keep the good work my friend!
@@maitrehg no. For men with Girl’s wrists like me!! Would love for it to be a bit like 36mm oyster perpetual. I prefer watches on the smaller size personally
@@dcpayne5264 Small watches are very comfy to wear but I think 40mm is ok for most of us so nice choice from Tissot. The Gentleman is a true home run for Tissot.
Could you help me choose my next watch? It’s between the tissot in this video (820€) and the Maurice Lacroix Aikon 39mm blue (1800€)I have the money for the Tissot but doesn’t mind the saving for the other one. What would you pick?
@@natangia.5653 Choose the one you want the most. No matter the price or the brand, listen to your heart. Right now, I'm saving for a Tudor Black Bay 41. It would be easier to buy a cheaper one right away, but I wouldn't be satisfied. The watch you don't really want will always be a bad buy.
I saw the seiko on a local store the other day...and wow! if you think it looks beautiful on camera, i tell you, i doesnt even make it justice. What a spectacular watch!
Looks too much like a Datejust. Plus, look at the center link edge finishing between the two. The Tissot is rounded, and clearly in the mold of cheaper watches. The Seiko's looks like it could belong on a $3000+ watch.
Seiko all day for me out of these two as its a brilliant all rounder with a better fit on wrist for me. Tissot have an annoying habit of extending the central section of the end link which doesn't sit right to my eyes, both watches have great dials though!
Wow Teddy, chosing beteeen these two would keep me awake for a couple of nights. I'm a Seiko guy, and Seiko would be my obviouse gut instinct , but as you very clearly point out from the movement side I would nudge to the Tissot. I will not take the price in concideration. Great review, great looking watches.
I am partial to the Seiko. At the beginning of the video, it caught my eye right away. I love the design on the dial! That being said, the Tissot is just classic, and you can't go wrong with it. I would be happy to pick up either one, but if I had to choose, I suppose it would be the Seiko.
I am in the exact position of choosing one of these two watches, slightly inclined for the Seiko after seeing this video. Why? While the Tissot has the silicon hair spring, Seiko comes with the proprietary SPRON 610. Both are antimagnetic, elastic and resistant. I couldn’t find any article comparing both, but for sure the two watches are aligned with the antimagnetic trend. Both are made of 316L stainless steel with the Seiko coming with the added hard coating layer. Yes this protects against scratches, and I have read favourable reviews on the web about it, but have two downsides: adds to the cost of the watch and when they scratch polishing is possible, but difficult. The guilloche type of dial of the SPB167 also adds to the cost, so it comes to appreciating it or not. I do appreciate as, I suppose, Teddy does. When buying a mechanical watch precision is not that important. What one has to have in mind is the manufacture’s specification and if this specification suits your requirements. I found a little misleading the comparison provided in this video, because two different instances of these watches could turn out completely different. Statistically this comparison is said to be anecdotal. I will be happy with either watch. I can understand the difference in price (a small difference at the manufacturer can turn out in a substantial one when factoring in margins up the distribution chain ) and appreciate aesthetically Seiko’s timepiece. Thanks for the video!
Nice one Teddy, I have both and I would mention that the Seiko does have a Spron 510 mainspring, which is also non-magnetic but arguably more durable than silicium
....commendable, while all that matters it's the hair spring, which is Silicium made at the Tissot. And how is the durability known since the silicium entered just few years back. Considering it is a nanotech material made of homogeneous Cristal lattice and virtually zero corrosion, I'd put money on Si.
A fascinating comparison, and honestly much closer than I expected. The Tissot is my preference, but I can definitely see the Seiko being the better choice for some. I think it comes down to four factors; design, movement, fit and value. I think design goes to the Seiko. There are more than a few people that use photos of the Tissot Gentleman to treat their insomnia; for those people the much more interesting dial, case and bracelet of the Seiko is a big plus. I also appreciate that the date window matches the dial on the blue dial (the date matches on both black dial variants); the white date on the Tissot was almost enough to push me towards the black dial at first. That said, the sunburst blue dial on the Tissot looks beautiful in person, and I prefer the hand/marker design. Point to Seiko. Fit is entirely subjective, and therefore a draw. If you have smaller wrists (
@torotot246 Well, if price is similar, then that's a draw, too. Everything else was close enough that I only used the Tissot's price/value as the drawbreaker. If that's no longer the case, just pick the one you prefer.
@torotot246 If it helps, I love my Gentleman (blue dial), but again, you can't go wrong. My advice is to try them both on first, preferably side by side, and one of them will probably end up feeling more right on your wrist. That's what happened when I finally got to try the Gentleman and PRX on together, as I knew I wanted one of those two, but I'd only tried on the Gentleman. Once I tried on both at the same time, the Gentleman felt like it was made for me, so I went with that one.
@@gpearce11 unfortunately, can’t try them side by side. But I went both stores and to be honest, Gentleman felt more premium. Only downside I would say is it’s more expensive out here and the bracelet.
Thanks for sharing Teddy, I appreciate your insights. This is a great comparison. I'd go towards the Tissot as I find that it has a "cleaner" dial. The Seiko dial is nice but seems to be busy and wouldn't be as versatile as the Tissot. But, like you said, you wouldn't go wrong with any of these watches.
Got the Tissot Gentleman a few weeks back. I opted for the bracelet rather than the leather one as it is much expensive aftermarket. Bought some leather strap to have some flexibility.
I ordered same watch too. I like leather, but for the same reason, I opted for the bracelet. Now I can't find leather strap. Can you help me to find a website for that?
I do have the Tissot Gentleman Powermatic 80 Silicium, so asking which one I prefer, is obvious, I think :) However, some remarks about your comments: the 80.811 is the ETA movement C07.811, not the C07.111 (which is in the e.g. Tissot Le Locle). The C07.811 means that the movement has a silicon hairspring AND a standard pallet fork with rubies (in contrast with the C07.111, which has a completely synthetic pallet fork). About regulating the Tissot: it's not necessary to remove the balance wheel to regulate the watch. Nevertheless, I would not recommend a non-watchmaker to make the attempt: the balance wheel needs to be supported while regulating the watch and you need a decent timegrapher to get the two regulating weights in a symetrical position in relation to the center of the balance wheel. PS. I'm not a watchmaker myself; what I say here was told to me by my watchmaker (who runs a Tissot authorized service center).
Both watches have slowed-down movements (3 Hz instead of 4) for the sake of longer power reserve. I'd sacrifice a few hours of PR for a faster beating caliber. This would not necessarily make the watches more accurate but it would make the seconds hand sweep smother. And the sweeping second is what makes an automatic so much more appealing than a quartz watch.
I guess you could say there are pros and cons to a faster beating movement. A slower one has mechanical parts that "move" less so it will end up needing less repairs throughout the course of its existence. After a while you get used to how the hand sweeps. Unless you've had a grand seiko with a spring drive you'll hardly be able to tell the difference btw 28800 and 21600
I have this version of the Gentleman and it is a no brainer, one of my favorite in the collection. Having said that, I also love the Seiko, I would probably get the green or crimson dial version for dressing options.
Just ordered a spb165j for my first decent everyday watch. The wearability on my 7” wrist is perfect and the white dial on this watch is not only eye catching and pleasure to view but also goes with a variety of styles.
Having watches of both brands, love them equally, however this Seiko definitely has more charm. on the other hand (pun intended) Tissot has this cool almost Rolex-like boxiness. Complicated choice, but I'd lean towards Seiko. Watches are not so much about specs, for me it is more about emotions. And this Seiko is definitely heartthrob.
@@ep7164 Yup thats the common issue with the sunburst effect. In darker areas it appears black. But in well lit areas like offices and malls, it looks too good.
Man, this was tough. Seiko for me by a hair due to the edgy look. It's just a bit more modern and playful, yet still classy if not *quite* as versatile. Bracelet is also nice enough to keep and the friendly 20mm lug width can't be denied. Love the comparison format and hope to see more. Especially the Tissot rose gold Gentleman Powermatic w/silver sector dial. It's also worthy of some careful consideration as it has a 20mm lug width and is real rose gold at a competitive price point.
A three way comparison with the Sharp Edge, Gentleman and the Longines Conquest would have been ideal IMO. I have been following your channel for some time now and i love how passionate you are about the camera work and macro shots. Definitely one of the best watch channels for enthusiasts on RU-vid.
great production and information as usual, but the balance of the Powermatic 80 does NOT have to be removed to adjust the rate. It can be done in situ by simply turning the screws in or out depending on desired rate. Mass out = slower rate, mass inward = faster.
I got the blue Tissot a year ago based on Teddy’s first review and really happy with it. I have found lots of different straps to substitute for the metal when I want to change it up so the 21mm wasn’t as big as issue as I thought. It keeps amazing time. 1 - 2 seconds per day.
@@Ab01-p6p why not? I got the everytime and the powermatic 80 in blue. Now I got a tag Heuer F1 caliber 6 watch all with steel bracelets and thats my collection so far. Everyone I've shown them to has thought they were extremely amazing in every way and they say they look beautiful. What's wrong with tissot for starting out? Nobody wants seiko lol thats what everyone tries to go for when they know nothing about watches and when they do like you they bash on tissot. Whats wrong with tissot bruh lol I get they aren't omega or grand seiko or even Rolex or Tudor but come on man don't be like that lol
I love my powermatic 80 from tissot in blue and the steel bracelet. It looks absolutely beautiful in real life. Go to a speedway at night time and while your pumping gas take a look at the tissot watch on your wrist and watch that baby shine like the bell of the ball. Thats how amazing that watch looks. It fits perfectly and the crown is substantial. I'm guessing you bought one the same time as me lol. What do you think of it?
These two watches have been on the top of my "Next Watch List". Now, if I had the $1000 to spend, I'd probably lean for the Seiko strictly because of that dial. It's a real attention-grabber. The finishing, as I remember, uses some techniques that gravitated from the Grand Seikos, and the bracelet, each link is composed of five individual pieces. However, I also gravitate towards the Tissot because of the movement and the price, but I have a small wrist so the slightly larger case is a negative. Either watch would be great, the Seiko maybe leaning towards slightly dressier.
Seikos are great for dials even in budget category. But the Tissot Gentleman blue dial is so versatile. And the tissot being an upmarket brand is surprisingly the cheaper one.... So my pick is going to the Tissot Gentleman, for sure.
I would say the Ball Fireman Enterprise as that can be bought for the same price as the Presage. Furthermore it has 904L steel, tritium tubes and a far better strap. The Ball 1103R (ETA2824-2) is also a solid performer which is easy to maintain.
I am actually just right now considering buying the Tissot. I saw the quarz version of the watch and loved it. The price is 350 US more or less giving the exchange rate. So I startet looking online and found out about this version of the watch. And I am absolutely willing to pay the extra. The diference in quality are really worth it. I think I might get myself a nice birthday present.
There are so much variety and options at 1000 price point that blows seiko out of the water. Doxa sub 200, mido oceanstar tribute, yema field( excellent dial, and my god hand wound movement is a heaven to look at) with strap, christopher ward etc
I like them both but Seiko is the clear winner IMO. Great video! And I like your taste in watches which is hard to propagate if you are a dealer and have to sell many different ones.
I have 2 Seastar 1000's. One green one blue. Also a PRS516 automatic chronograph and the day/date powermatic 80. Just ordered a Seastar 2000. Love Tissot. Have a vintage 1958 Omega. Just wear it at home
I'm as impressed with your overall video production quality and presentation as I am with these nice watches. Lighting, videography, editing, audio, your presentation style, etc is spot on. I work in this field, well done!
The Tissot for me, I have quite a few Seiko's so, and only one other Tissot from the 1950's so for me, it would be nice to add another Tissot to my collection.
I think this was generally a thorough and balanced review, but I think you could have addressed some of the serviceability and repair issues the silicone hair spring on the Tissot Gentleman potentially brings.
I purchased the Seiko and wanted to learn more about it. My comment is in regards to the review. I appreciated how fair it was despite you only selling the Tissot when it came out. Well done…
Teddy.. I'm impressed that you cover Seiko so well, and so fairly despite not being an AD.. another reason I follow and respect you and your business. Frank in Colorado
Personally I would never buy a watch with a protective coating on the case. Yes it may provide protection but when it does get damaged you cant just simply polish or brush it out.
Another thing to know about the tissot movements, It is a eta 2824-2 based movement, a tractor that keeps ticking no matter what, I have an old tissot from the 90s with it, never been serviced that work like it was new
this Seiko series is why I started getting into watches. It is absolutely stunningly beautiful and is more art than simply watch making. To Me, the sharp edge series makes the most beautiful timepieces period…but to each their own.
Like these 2 comparison, hard to choose, if I were to sit at the Starbuck reading a book and spending some alone time, the Seiko would boost the vibe occasionally, but for everyday watch, I might go for Tissot Gentleman.
I’ve seen both in “person”, considering my small wrist the Seiko fits better, the dial is really nice and original. TheTissot besides been chunky, it’s just another OP homage.
Could you help me choose my next watch? It’s between the tissot in this video (820€) and the Maurice Lacroix Aikon 39mm blue (1800€)I have the money for the Tissot but doesn’t mind the saving for the other one. What would you pick?
Teddy your videos are always first class. I particularly enjoyed your presentation on how Millennials reacted to watches. Very interesting responses from them and very revealing. I appreciated the way you were patient with their lack of knowledge and I think you converted a few away from their cell phones. I have a friend who could be your doppelganger and it's uncanny. He's your age group and a very successful aviation parts supplier. You two are pretty impressive and I appreciate you both. Lots of talent and bright future for both of you. Finally a brilliant you tuber who isn't showing how to cook ribs for the millionth time.
Teddy, in my relatively young journey into the Watchworld, I find that whatever questions comes to my mind, you have a video on RU-vid giving me a comprehensive answer. Thank you so much for the effort. I will try and return the favor in the future by purchasing from your store.
I just got the Tissot, but went with the quartz version. It was a tough call, but in the end I traded away an antireflective crystal for a thinner profile (8.5 vs. 11.5 mm.) So far, no regrets, and given the price, I'm seriously considering buying a second, dressier version to complement the more casual look (blue dial, brown leather strap) of the one I'm now wearing. My daily watch up to now has been a '50s vintage Oyster Perpetual, but having it serviced costs than I spent on the Tissot. It's a family heirloom, so I'm not sure what to do with it... maybe I'll dump it on my daughter and make it her problem. 🙂
I got the Tissot a few days ago. It's my second automatic and first swiss watch. Awesome watch with beautiful blue dial! The choice between this Tissot and the Seiko may be hard, but as well the design(in my opinion) and price talk for Tissot. So I think I made the right decision. I already plan to get another Tissot.
I am definitely going for Tissot. My opinion after your review it's the best bang for your buck. Tissot has been around a long long time and I think this is a great watch. I have requested this watch from my wife for Xmas. 🙏. Thanks for the review Teddy.
I truly like the simple design of the Tissot. I don't have one in my roster of watches and this one seems to be a good one to have as an entry-level luxury watch. Thanks for your insight ... you mostly made good points for both therefore made it more difficult for me to pick one 😉 Thanks for sharing.
The SPB167 has a very interesting dial and a more elegant bracelet. I am a longtime fan and owner of Tissot and Seiko, but in this case the overall proportions of the Gentleman seem more balanced to me.
I have owned the SPB165 which is the white dial variant and although I love the look of the watch, the 6r35 movement is very erratic. Some days it will lose over a minute a day, others it will gain +3 seconds and it is really frustrating. I know I can get it regulated but definitely something people should be aware of before considering a Seiko with this movement.
Great comparison. For me, they are very evenly matched, with the price difference pushing the decision toward the Tissot. Would you please consider doing a video of similar type watch but in $1000 to around $2000? Another video idea, top 3 tool and diver (every day wear) watches. Emphasis on tough and robust movment watches at different price ranges. For example the omega diver 300 - I would expect it to be the best everyday wear watch in that price category? Or is there a more robust diver for the same price?
Tissot is a really solid deal, but at this price range I’d err on the side of interesting and fun... I got the green version at about 680 on the grey market... love it
Killer deal at that price - green is the best variant of this watch it kills me that the blue dial obsession forced a comparison of the colder version of this watch. The asanoha hemp pattern was meant to be green.
I would probably just go for the Tissot because it is a little more watch for the money movement-wise, I like the dial a little better (although it isn't as decorated) and the brand name is probably more interesting for the money as well. Idk about value retention for each, though. Also, id love to see videos about where you get your clothes from, Teddy. You always look sharp!
I've contemplated both, but haven't pulled the trigger on either. What kills me on the Sharp Edge Seikos is that you can get the SARX055 for around the same price, but you get a titanium case and an interesting but more subtle dial aesthetic.
Great video! Thanks. I loved the opinion on the Tissot dial as "less threatening". The Tissot has a much sober dial than the Seiko hence I would incline to a sober design, its less risky of getting boring. Your SARX045 would be a better option to compare it with. In general I find sober/classic designs better as, one get less tired of them. Innovative designs generates an initial hype but eventually you lose it and shortly you just change the product for a newer innovative design. WDYT?
Good review. Personally, I like the Tissot. It would be great if you can do a side-by-side comparison between the Tissot and the Aqua Terra. Although, they are of a different league but it will be great to see them how they fare in design and maybe, movement. Keep it up!
