TWO PLUGINS to clean up your SNARE! 

I use Sonnox Oxford Gate and Fabfilter Saturn 2/Pro MB. The Oxford Gate has a leveler section built in as well!

Oh yeah. That Sonnox thingy seems to combine a whole bunch of useful tools. Still need to try it!

@@KohleAudioKult yeah, you definitely should! That decay frequency selector is crazy! It's the magic of this plugin.

another guy using sonnox here!

BlackSaltAudio is going to release a new gate plugin soon! I'm curious how good it will be. Maybe we all will need only one plugin to gate snare etc. soon, haha

So cool to hear that! Spread the word! 🍺🖤

Amazing tip! And no need to buy plugins.

Same here. Thinking about using the PC just for debleeding the snare, forgot how well Debleeder works.

FabFilter Saturn 2 dog… best debleeder in existence.

@@BeatsAndMeats, debleed with Saturn 🤔 ?

@@philipbaum5929 Search Nolly Eliminating Cymbal Bleed with Saturn

@@philipbaum5929set the high frequency around 1000 and turn down the dynamics knob

You’re welcome 😜

work harder at the source...drop a room mic 6ft in front of the kit and listen to your playing on the mic... if you don't hear the balance between the drums and cymbals the way you need it.. change your playing dynamics. Once that sounds good, use all your mics and play that same way... that alone is better than plugins for most things.

I didn’t know Debleeder was PC only! Congratz on the sexy shirt buddy! 😇 I see you in the Kult!

@@KohleAudioKult In my case, it actually was! DeBleeder is available up until the end of OS/X 10.x for Mac. Right around the time Big Sur (11.x) came out, Wilkinson Audio made a decision not to continue the Mac version of DeBleeder because Apple changed the way some of the security policies in the OS worked and it made their existing implementation incompatible so they decided not to do a re-write. Unfortunately, Big Sur is what's on my Mac. As a software engineer myself, I totally get the frustration of dealing with Apple or their APIs. Thank you kindly, buddy! I wore my "the bass needs more dangle" shirt out with my fiancee (the bass player) the other day too and she loved it :D I'll see you soon in the Kult! Btw, two weeks ago I asked Glenn Fricker to give you a high-five from me when he's in your neck of the woods and he said he would. If he just randomly high-fives you, that's from me lol.

@@KohleAudioKult yes, I loved debleeder, however, they refuse to do an update for the past several years for Mac. It will not work anymore. I emailed them begging for them to update and I will even buy the plug in again. I don't get it lol

Thanks man! Drumatom never did it for me and was kinda complicated to handle. But that was years ago, maybe it's better these days.

I know that one! It’s kinda cool, but you gotta be careful with the settings on dynamic material.

Saturn 2 can do it better. Try "dynamics" knob

I’m pretty sure you can use tominator on Mac still 🤘🏾

@@j-katinfusino4930 Tominator works on Mac, yes. But so far, I haven't been able to get it to work well...

Sonible SmartGate works on Macs and has a variety of possibilities.

@@AntonVorozhtsov The dynamics knob turned counterclockwise, for the uninitiated!

I thought like: Why do so many people have the idea to use a distortion plugin to clean the snare? Now I realized there was a Nolly video! 😇

yes, I think everyone should thanks Nolly for that trick, but your seems really good to! Can't wait to try it ! @@KohleAudioKult

​@@KohleAudioKultI'm sure we would all love to hear your take on the Nolly snare drum gate technique using Saturn! Maybe you could add your own twist to it like you did in the fake stereo guitar DI video.

​@@KohleAudioKultyeah he published it on the ggd channel. Works extremely well and combines really good with debleeder or the sonnox gate. Hopefully they never change the algorithm of that one function inside Saturn. 😂

Sounds interesting! I'll have a look.

Toms cab be bitchy though 😫

I bought both of those plug-ins today from your links and for the first time ever my drum mix sounds great! Next I wanna try to explore side chaining the snare to the room mic. To make the snare pop more

Just consolidate the snippets into one file and generate hit points / midi notes. 5 clicks!

And if I need more - use fab filter pro-mb expand

Isn’t the RX Debleed an offline process? At least it used to be like that.

@@KohleAudioKult yes, you right it’s offline process- but it gives you best results on my opinion

Thank You for sharing 😊

Third comment like that. I wasn’t aware it’s only available for Windows right now.

Welcome to the comments section! Sounds like you have found some great work-arounds that do the same thing. I don’t think that vocal rider has the right detection for the job though.

Talk to the drummer during the session! But sure: There’s a limit for everything.

Not close. It’s a different concept. Debleeder‘s processing is frequency dependent and quite a bit more complex.

Great products for sure! Not a big fan of auto-aligning drum tracks personally though.

@@KohleAudioKultSame here, in logic and Luna it sounds awful!!!!!

I’ll check it out! Thanks

Can you give me the link?

@@KohleAudioKult yes ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EM-bb_fV5d8.htmlsi=sq8TdSxzl-KvuC6P

It’s usually just faster with two tracks compared to automation. But of course both works!

This is For snare and toms. Felt I should clarify.

That’s basically like a high end expander, right?

Yes it’s really expander for highs

@@KohleAudioKult I'm going to be perfectly honest with ya. I do not know how to use an expander so I've never even tried to use one. I understand its similar to a compressor but I don't actually know what's going on at all. If this technique is like an expander, I would have never guessed. I actually discovered this messing with a live vocal track that had some drum bleed on it. I was mostly just clicking around trying to figure out how to tame back the drums without using a gate. The way I understand that knob is that it takes content out of the signal when I turn it down and it adds content when I turn it up. Due to the nature of the plugin I assume its all harmonics or saturation its changing. It doesn't seem to be doing the whole transient designer thing. Its not making the rest of the signal more punchy but it is basically only leaving the transient behind and usually reduced. So to get the highs out without damaging the body of the vocals I added a crossover frequency. I ended up not liking the way it worked out. I mean it was usable but I took a different approach. But I did end up trying this on the snare of the same project and it worked REALLY well for me. Hey if you have time to fit it into your schedule. Id love to see a video from you on the topic of expanders. Thanks for what you do here!!!

Hab ich damals probiert. War durch den Offlinemodus umständlich, sehr unflexibel und klang nicht wirklich geil. Aber vielleicht ist das heute alles verbessert?

@@KohleAudioKult Es gab einen Bridge Plugin, vom Prinzip ähnlich wie bei Melodyne, dass die bearbeiteten Tracks in der Session abspielen liess. Eine andere Option - ein Workaround von Glenn Fricker - wo man in der Session zwischen bearbeitet und unbearbeitet blenden konnte.. Die Ergebnisse waren nicht immer überzeugend, doch manchmal sehr beeindruckend wie ich fand )

The Mac situation sucks indeed. I didn’t know that when making the video

Yeah don't stand in front of the drumset 😂

I’m curious because that sounded amazing. It reminded me of CLA’s big roomy airy drum sound.

It basically works like that. I always use the samples from the session and mostly way more than one. Kome join Kohle Audio Kult to learn stuff like this 👍🏻

@@KohleAudioKult I’ll consider it my friend! Thanks for getting back to me!

I think Drumagog is an offline tool that analyzes the multitracks intelligently to remove cymbal bleed. It just doesn't sound that great, haha!

The freeware "Cymbal killer" is a dedicated plugin for this purpose, i use it myself and i think it can make a lot of difference but its not the perfect solution of course.

I wasn’t aware of that. 🫣😫

Which one are you talking about?

@@KohleAudioKult smar:gate by sonible. Saw another guy try it out and it seems like an insane time saver

none of that seems likely. at least from a mix perspective. Just lower all the gains and turn up you speakers... then you won't peg your tracks faders. If your snare sounds "just like these" then you are likely hitting okay and apparently not clipping your interface. So, most of that still comes down to getting better mixing skills starting at lowering all your faders and dropping a trim on some tracks perhaps.

Are your hits too soft compared to the cymbals or is the snare drum performance too dynamic?

@@morbidmanmusic I tried side chaining the gate & it seems to be the solution. I have the volume I was looking for & doesn't seem to be altering the sound

@@KohleAudioKult Its both. The material is really dynamic (ghosts & blast beats in the same songs) & my health & age makes it really hard to have the control, stamina, & strength I used to have. But I think I resolved my issue by throwing the gate on a side chain. I'm getting the volume I was looking for while maintaining the sound & everything else.

@andrewjacobs5579 Drum Leveler really helps to prepare a dynamic performance for a noise gate. You might also wanna split the snare into two tracks with different noise gate settings like I describe it in the video.

I just use two tracks for that. One with the ghost note parts and less processing

I’m using the gate inside Drum leveler. That’s Step 2.

Can you use it for Tom’s too.?

@@Abzshred I imagine you could, same principle just a different fundamental transient with longer release. Just guessing 🤔

@@Abzshred yes

Sure. Just a matter of preference.

What so cool about it?