Who do you think gave the best acting performance in the Lord of the Rings trilogy? Andy Serkis? Christopher Lee? Brad Dourif? Elijah Wood? Sean Astin?
That Farimir backstory scene with his brother showing how borimir was more of a father figure and caring then Denothor kind of makes this whole extended edition for me.
If they had only kept that scene in the theatrical cut, I would've said they were all 10/10, no notes. But leaving it out makes it seem like Boromir started out corrupt, instead of showing how quickly the ring ensnared an honorable man.
100 percent aggree. It also sets us up for the whole I wish you had died instead of borrimir here go into a suicidal charge to death and then I’ll burn you alive from Denothor in the next film. Also like how not just in name, but in their character arcs Denothor adn Theoden are reversals of each other. Both ruling characters who go insaine one snapped out of maddness due ot death of a son while the other plunges into maddness
ya, i can recall my first time watching these movies in the theaters when i was 13... I couldnt trust Boromir but watching the extended in the Two Towers made that whole dynamic of a relationship work better. I always knew i should "feel" for Boromirs death and Faramirs sacrifice, granted it was sad but it connected better with that specific cut. One of the main Extended cuts that I can point out (ive seen the extended so many times that i forget what was added). This scene is the one i always go "God they NEEDED that clip if any for the theatrical".
I think fellowship also has some great scenes with borimir that hammers this point home as well. The scene in the mountains when he says the hobbits will die in these weather while being a tad let’s go through Rohan to Gondor, I think he did care since before that is the fun sword fighting scene with merry and pippin, the scene in lots Lorien with him is also great extended that should be in the movie because he really gets into why he came and how his father’s expectations are depending on him and mentioning his brother for the first time and telling aragorn how htey’ll ride together fixing the whole Gondor don’t need a king rudeness at the beginning.
I just find it odd that Smeagol had never heard potatoes referred to in that way. They're both from similar culture but maybe the generational gap is pretty bad
So the Trio, if not mentioned. Aragorn broken 2 toes, Legolas had a cracked rib from falling off a horse, and Gimli had a dislocated knee, yet did the running scene. Imagine how much pain they were most likely in, yet were still so dedicated to do that scene.
That’s part of what makes doing real stunts awesome. Because you know that a real human being is doing that.. it gives you respect for it and makes you hopeful to see real humans doing larger than life stunts. It gives you hope knowing that not all human beings aren’t sedentary and fragile. When we get to the point of doing no stunts I’ll be extremely sad.. cgi just isn’t the same. The set for the nostromo is freakin awesome. I do not think it looks bad at all. A real mountain is generally cooler than a cg mountain.. it’s just sad bro.. we can’t be bothered or uncomfortable for a bit for anything now..
Sam's speech is so good I actually decided to use it for a monologue project in my high school drama class. Even if it was just for a grade, it still felt like such an honor being able to recreate it. That's how special this speech is.
Gandalf and the Balrog falling through and illuminating the abyss is one of my favorite movie beginnings of all time. Seeing it huge and beautiful on the theater screen was an experience to be had.
The emotion Erik gave describing Sam’s speech was powerful, like watching that scene in the theater in 02’. Great job sir and an amazing breakdown. Crazy I’m still learning about my favorite movie over 20 years later
23:36 I'm 99% sure that Gandalf says "the stars wheeled overhead" which is just a minor change from the text "...while the stars wield over, and each day was as long as a life-age of the earth".
Typo there: the original text reads "stars wheeled over." All Jackson added was "-head" to make Tolkien's language a little more plain for the modern ear.
Such an iconic musical rendition. One of my favorite emotional highlights during rewatches… 👏 they speed up the rift in Return of the King, but Two Towers contains the true classic 🙌
I remember reading somewhere that Bernard Hill, Theodan' actor, had actually lost his son in real life. So that scene of Theodan saying "no parent should have to bury their child," and crying, was actually Bernard Hill breaking character and mourning his son IRL. It's such a raw and heartbreaking scene, it makes sense that Bernard Hill would draw on real life emotion to drive the scene forward. Such a legend.
The Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy, but it has much to do with where I was in life when it released. I was escaping to the theater, and watching this movie gave me immense comfort. I went and saw it 4 or 5 times. Such was the impact on me, that I could rewatch that opening 10 minutes on loop forever and be content.
This was absolutely beautiful, Vosser! The Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy. And you gave it the time and unpacking that it truly deserves. You sir Vosser, you've shown your quality, sir. I fight pain of full body CRPS and hope is so very important to my fight against constant agony of nerve pain. ❤
These three films and three books means so much to me as a person and seeing them having a breakdown worthy of thier merit is amazing and shows how great they are
Holy crap, I think this is the best Deep Dive we've gone on. This hit every feel that it could, I love this movie so much and this breakdown has only given me such a greater appreciation, thank you
I love how for the battle of helm’s deep, the calm before the storm is literally a storm. It really sets up how impactful it’s going to be. There’s the calm before the storm, and the storm before the battle of helm’s deep. It’s easily the best battle of the entire series. Pelennor fields might have had a bigger scale, but at its core it’s a battle of oneupmanship. Imposing fortress, giant army, giant cavalry on the flank, giant elephants that might as well be moving fortresses to flank them, unkillable ghost army. Helm’s deep is just holding the line no matter the cost and praying you live to see the dawn
@@shawnberry760he's really cool and has dexterity but he also seems sensitive and you can tell he really values being bros with Gimli. In a way that ties into the true meaning of "two towers" also. Both Dwarf and Elf overcome their cultural enmity and become some of the best friends in all fiction
What an amazing piece this is! To Eric and the entire Deep Dive team, thank you so much for making this. Your passion really shines through, and cuts right to the heart of why those of us that treasure the stories of Tolkien and the brilliant adaptation by Jackson and his team love them so much.
Mr. Voss, editors, New Rockstars as a whole, thank you for keeping the emotional take on the analysis of Sam's speech in this video. I am a writer, and in 21 years I have only released one book, working through bouts of depression and the executive dysfunction of good ol ADHD, after years of being "lucky" enough to hear 'we've passed' from literary agents and publishers, I finally decided to self-publish in 2019 It is a vast understatement to say that I've had doubts about attempting to continue to pursue a career in writing and authorship. But when I tell you here and now how much seeing you care about these things steeles my resolve to keep going, know that I mean it from the bottom of my heart. We do need stories, absolutely. Thank you Erik, for being The Samwise Gamgee to all of us viewers who come here for those stories and for the entertainment you and New Rockstars provide.
The Return of the king segment cannot come soon enough. I got to admit I was chuckling a bit by the initial horse boy reference but you got me, and really set in the feeling and pride that the story brought. It felt good and really made me feel those memories again when I initially saw the series in theaters. Thank you Deep Dive team I love this. ❤️ 😊
You know Erik is completely right about stories, and that might've been the first time we've seen Erik close to tears in a video you Erik you are the man man . 🙂🙂
My man, Erik Voss, it's about time for me to give you your flowers. And if not after the great Sam(there's some good in this world)/Erik(stories matter)speech, then when? Watching a movie analysis on RU-vid is one of my favourite things to do. I often even prefer it than actually watching a movie. And even though there are a few channels that i like, my man over here is my go-to guy if i want to watch the best break down of a movie. This of course goes for both the deep dive, and for the new rockstars channel. So.. Well done Erik. I look forward to enjoying your content for many many decades to come. What you do, and how you do it matters. You're the best at what you do. Please, never stop.
I've loved these movies for years, but the most memorable experiences for me were watching them in the Royal Albert Hall in London with a full orchestra playing the score. Simply soul-blowing. One thing I loved was seeing the way that clanging 5/4 beat was done for the Uruk Hai: there was a woman with an open piano, wearing big gloves and smashing metal chains into the strings. One of the most METAL things I've ever seen in an orchestral performance. Got to meet Howard Shore after one of the screenings too.
What I love about Gimli’s “YESS” after theoden talks about the horn of helm hammerhand is that for Gimli, he very recently saw what the orcs did to his kin. They trapped his kin in, and his kin were terrified and all they could do was wait to die. Whereas in this scenario, he’s happy that if this is another defeat, let them not go quietly into the night. The “YESS” really feels like he is relieved not to have to experience the same fear his kin must have felt in their last moments
The emotions during the sam`s scene from you were really inspiring, I love it when people stop pretending and the emotion flows forth, like a river crashing against the false walls of the lies we keep telling ourselves, the emotions reveal the truth of how we really feel, not for upvotes or for subs or even for effect, they show the true nature of what things really mean to us, in a digital world that values the illusion more than the truth, seeing someone break-down gives me real hope, and It was a really great moment that I myself felt the emotions, thank you for sharing this and not editing it out or trying to frame it as something other than what it truly was..
I really appreciate the amount of time it took to create this analysis video! So thoughtful and heartfelt. I really like what yall said about Sam being the ringbearer for the ringbearer. When all is said and done about this story, genuine & true companions won over an world shattering evil. We all need each other to survive, you can't do it alone!
oh man, i did not expect to cry my eyes out at this. what a movie. thanks erik, and the NR team! you always bring the tower of hope into light by showing your love for these stories.
I Love theodens line “No Parent should have to bury their child.” Especially knowing Bernard Hill, got that like from meeting a women whose child died from illness. 😢 Hits so much harder. Sam’s speech will ALWAYS be one of the best speeches in Cinematic history..
Eric i really want to thank you for your passion and emotion when talking about Sam's speech at to Frodo at the end. it is the best and most poignant descriptions ive ever heard for a love of stories. a love that has always formed into obsession for me. my family has always given me grief about it and after watching this i sent a clip to my mom and sister and i think they both finally understand me better and it is all thanks to you and your nerdy passion. i hope what you folks do over at New Rockstars and your related channels never feels unimportant because for people like me it helps a lot. love you all, please keep New Rocking
Bless your heart for doing this ❤ These stories bring so much joy to so many of us, it's heartwarming and encouraging to find a community of like-minded literature buffs and cinephiles. And congratulations on your growing family!!
You truly need more followers here. LotR is amazing as is. But when you dive in with as much passion as you have here, it brings it all together. Thank you
Theoden is the king of the Apocalypse. The older I get the more I love and respect the hell out of that character and Bernard Hill absolutely nails it. Erik these videos are incredible thank you so much for all the hard work you put into them!!
I've watched this trilogy every year for the last 7 years and it's always what I want to watch when I feel sad or tired. I love that you're diving into them and bringing up all the great details, like Sam's speech. And I love that they put the battle of the Ents on screen because is freaking epic LOL
I really thought Rohan's speech was epic and filled with philosophical depth till I heard the Sam breakdown from you validating how 'we' as Deep Divers are important to this world. Thank you Eric for helping us think deeper
As if Sam’s speech wasn’t emotional enough, Erik’s personal thoughts just completely broke me down. I love this channel and the passionate people behind it
Sam's speech has always made me emotional, but Eric, I really felt your words. I've been ostracized and ridiculed for my deep fandom of several "nerd" comics, books, movies, etc. I honestly shed a tear when you talked about us being validated. Please keep going, I will keep watching!
When I realized how much deeper Frodo bringing Gollum along was more than just him needing a guide. And him wanting to see if someone the ring has corrupted can come back. And in the end. He saw he neither one could come back.
Tolkien, bar none, is of the absolute pinnacle of writing. Bearing down the scope of his world, the depth of his world building, his silver lined dialogue is akin to a Shakespeare classic. Peter Jackson had acclimated Tolkien's writing to the big screen in such phenomenal fashion. Factoring the dialogue of Tolkien accompanied by the wide array of talented actors/actresses, these films are unequivocally astonishing. I was patiently waiting for this video to drop, the proportionate, comprehensive work necessary in a video this massive is nutty. Major respect for this one, Eric Voss 👏 🙌
Wow. Erik...incredible. Your emotions for storytelling are incredible. Fantastic dive. Two Towers has always been my favorite of the trilogy and you somehow made it even better. Thanks for everything you do!
Eric, you simply make commentaries that bring me such joy and feeling. I was gratified to hear you praise Two Towers, which has always been my favorite of the three films. Love this series, and all that you do.
I will always sob at Sam’s speech. There have been times in my life where the only thing I was looking forward to in life were new movie releases. Stories have that power to give you the will to live when all hope is lost.
Especially when he spoke about the criticism of despair that shadowed during the journey of being a story analysis. I felt that pain which almost made me teared up…
amazing video. i’ve been waiting for this for ages. i could watch another hour. the line gandalf says is when explaining about the balrog is “the stars wheeled ahead”, as in the days passed by over and over and over.
I always took "Not idly do the leaves of Lorien fall" as a way to also show that elven crafted broaches wouldn't just fall off of their cloaks, that the fact that it was on the ground means it was intentionally removed to show the hobbit who dropped it was alive.
I appreciate you explaining why the choice was made to change Faramir's character in the movie. When I first saw it, I felt like it was a betrayal of his character. He was always different from his brother and clearly never had a desire for personal power, always more interested in peace than glory, and a very sensitive person. This kinder quality of character is what always made him hated by his father, but what his father couldn't see is that it made him stronger than his brother and was why he refused the ring in the first place. His journey in the books was to find the love and happiness that he lacked until he healed and fell in love with Eowyn, but hearing you explain Jackson's intentions makes me understand it better. They cut out all of the love plot for him, and they needed him to have an arc that had him grow as a human with natural flaws.
Wow, just wow! I love how emotive and emotional you are in this deep dive, becasue we are all feeling that as well. I love it so much, thank you for this, from one LOTR die hard to another. I always have kniwn that the two towers is a powerhouse of a film, and this helps prove it! And Andy Serkis as Golem/Smeagol is a master class in atmospheric tension and acting! Id give him a standing ovation if I could
I grew up on the illustrations of Howe and Lee, so it was brilliant to have them designing for these movies. It was absolutely key in making this representation feel true to me.
I am probably in a minority, but Two Towers is my favorite of the trilogy, and I think I know why. It was the only one of the three I saw in the theatre. My dad told my sister and I if we kept grades up, soon as school let out for Christmas break, we'd go see this. It was a packed Friday afternoon, I was 11 years old and could not sit still! I absolutely love this movie. From the sets, the locations, the battles, I love this movie and it's probably my #2 favorite film of all time! CANNOT wait for the Return of the King breakdown.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. This breakdown of one of my favorite movies was everything I hoped it would be and then some. Thank you thank you for what you do.
Great breakdown must be hard putting all these videos out on the main channel and here too whilst also trying to raise a newborn. Great work Erik as usual
Your quoted the Gandalf afterlife monolog line incorrectly. He doesn't say "the stars field of end", he says "the stars wheeled overhead", which is a near match for the text of "while the stars wheeled over..."
