Thanks for the shoutout :) and lol gotta love the feeling of putting directly into a tree branch, I do that way more than I’d like to admit, so thank you for normalizing 😂
I was so stoked to discover you. I was a huge Vibram fan but hate replacing lost $70 discs, so I quit throwing them. What's even cooler is you're a hometown company and that is cool.
Vibram flight numbers: Fade = how many feet to the left it should fade. Speed: top number =MPH, bottom number is how far it "should" go and can be the one most misleading number on here, Turn = how many feet to the right it should go if you threw it at the speed listed. Awesome content so far, and can't wait for the 2 feet of snow to go away so I can test out my Inner Core still!
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf We can convert it to current numbers and get an MVP+Mark Rober robot we can standardize disc flights, Can even give different numbers for plastic. Speed = MPH+RPM, Glide = Distance compared to throwing a brick at that speed, Turn + Fade = Standard degrees right/left
If thrown at the MPH listed (Top number), RHBH 8° Fade/9° Turn off of a zero axis... it will travel 450 feet. The Trak was their second driver brought to market... it was beautifully stable!
I've been designing and printing my own discs with TPU! They actually end up flying really well and they're way more durable than you'd expect since the filament is flexible. I'm not aiming to get mine PDGA approved or anything because I don't plan to sell them, but it's a super fun way to learn more about the physics behind discs and have something unique in my bag.
An additional benefit of compression molding is that you can put purposeful patterns into the discs. Some of the ones made for the old Vibram Open tournament actually had the year molded into the rubber.
I have an NSH 8472 and oh man, what a disc. Makes the tilt look understable. I had a local pro (whom I think you may be friends with Jesse!) throw it on the biggest, hardest anhyzer he could muster...it hyzered into the ground after about 150 feet. Pure novelty, but I love showing people it lol. I think it's meant to be thrown upside down, but if you have one and haven't thrown it right side up, it's absolutely nuts
Love my Vibram Ridge found that the number conversion on mine are 2 3 0 1, on the disc it says 10 fade; 5.2 speed 6; 5 turn. The conversion numbers I found online somewhere but don't remember what site but just love the way this disc flies.
I have a Vibram Lace that I bought used, but I think there is something wrong with it. The top of the disc seemed to have sunk in and it never flew well. I even tried to fix it with some hot water and weights, but it didn't work. @TrashPandaDiscGolf, do you accept Vibram discs in your disc recycling program?
Above the 450 is 50 indicating to achieve the 9 degrees of turn it has to be thrown at 50mph. It will fade out by 8 degrees. It has the potential to fly 450 feet.
Infinite Discs had a full chart of the Vibram lineup when they were still available. I copied the whole list down, as I was collecting Vibram before they were discontinued. I have at least 2 of each mold, including the ultra rare Onyx. Love Vibram rubber, but throw plastic regularly now. The Laces were all Speed 13 or higher, with various Glide, Turn, and Fade. The Trak was Speed 7, Glide 4.1, Turn -1, Fade 2. Steve Dodge was the mastermind behind Vibram, before becoming same for DGPT, Maple Hill, Birdie game, and Marshall Street Discs.
i hope I could show you a printed disc with tpu soon. nothing commercial, just a try me and one of my friends are going to do. it won't have any print path ridges tho
So I have to admit I do find it rather fascinating how you have done so much study and you have found all these different ways. And I've heard very good things about vibram discs. I rock a pair of vibrams every once in a while. They're really good on road trips in terms of shoes, but have not had a chance to throw a vibrant disc and I would like to at least throw one once. That being said, the fact that we have moved into a direction where 3D printing may become a real possibility. I think could aid to certain things like let's say you order a disc that you like and then now you say well I want to bead on that disc and so you can put a bead on that disc to try it out and then you could say submit it to one of the manufacturers being. Hey, I modified this to be beaded in this way. You know let's work together and people could profit in that way. There's so much that I think that we could learn and grow from in this instance that I absolutely agree with your opinion. Jesse and I think this is awesome! Also it's good to see you back on the camera. My man still waiting on that mid-range though
I'm not sure there is enough room in the pdga rules for discs to really change much in terms of mold. Dave Dunipaces videos on new discs are already saying "this is a little more stable XYZ" which you can already get via plastic, weight, wear, and batch: without a new mold.
There is another way to make discs. Jonathan from Latitude 64 made a disc using wood turning. You could technically do the same with plastic using cnc turning.
Wow that was great to see my home course"the badlands" i'v been living in El Reno Oklahoma now for many years, I'm a badco member,#37 Ben"Casper"Owens#19275 much love to the 303 Denver disc golfers!!!
Is anyone machining discs like you would metal or wood. I am curious if you could turn a disc on a large or if anyone is doing that with a cnc cutting machine
I don't know enough, so I'm not sure. My guess would be no, but the technology could get there! (After all, it was invented ~100 years after injection molding.)
How much does it cost to 3D print a disc? Is it scalable? Or would a 3D application be better served as R&D to make sure a disc has the expected flight characteristics before producing a mold?
your first disc is the most expensive, but the more you print the cheaper they get. a kg of TPU is around 30 dollars and if the average disc uses about 200 grams that about 5 discs. even including the cost of a basic 3d printer thats about 40 dollars a disc for your first go. its hard to research or develop with the 3d printed discs directly cause they act differently than a molded disc. there are so many variables in-between the two to be immediately translatable, however being able to share files with other 3d disc golfers is awesome. also, making your own filament from 3d printed from recycled materials is becoming easier and easier. anyhow, its fun, start printing.
@@anotheryoutuber_ I would assume 3d printing in future should allow for more complex materials for discs like a crazy lightweight graphene flight plate and some crazy dense stuff in the rim for ultimate gyro effects but surely even the current discs being printed need quite a fancy printer..? Unless it's all just way cheaper than I thought
@@subspaceanomaly the slicer you use can have a fairly large impact on the density and characteristics of the print. the future will absolutely make more materials available for home use at a lower cost but its fairly attainable for most folks, i personally offset a lot of of the cost by using it for printing gifts and useful simple home objects like chip clips, small replacement parts, and prototyping hobby stuff for games and rc parts. its usually cheaper and simpler then folks make it out to be. you can make the experience really expensive if you want but its way cheaper then having a habit where a stranger makes a fancy coffee on a bi-weekly basis.
@@anotheryoutuber_ I may have to look into it. I used to use laser cutters and milling machines, and was quite impressed with a 3d printer someone made that used clay. And a guy at my art college made a solar powered glass 3d printer that he took to the desert where a big fresnel lens heated sand and made quite interesting looking stuff. If scaled up it could print houses of a sort.
I have an NSH Custom Discs driver that I got in a players pack last year. Also got a nice plum colored Trash Panda mini that I use now in that pack too #14761
Please tell me that this means you’ll be combining that thermoset rubber idea with some discs that you may be releasing in the future… or discs that you HAVE released already 😏😂
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