Why should she have to put up with some clown continuously ringing the bell Her actions were 100% correct and she dealt with the situation in a very professional manner
I am a bus driver and this happens often, in my case its usually school kids, and the problem is easily solved. If they are on there way TO school, stop everytime the bell is pushed and wait a few minutes (Makes them late), then when they press the bell for the stop outside school ignore it and continue a few stops more (Half a mile), works a treat when its raining. The problem disappears for a few weeks, when it starts again repeat. If they are on the way home its even easier, stop the bus and report a fault, this is done on an electronic device in the cab, the device returns a VOR notice (Vehicle of road - DO NOT MOVE), the message is transmitted to base, I will be instructed to transfer my passengers to the next bus (Running 1 hour behind me). Then inform the passengers the vehicle is out of service due to the fault and passengers will need to transfer to the next bus when it catches up in in about an hour. Once again the problem disappears for a few weeks. Word of WARNING, it only takes a second for a driver to take a bus out of service for 100s of "legitimate" reasons, the driver does not require permission to do so from their boss, the boss is incharge of the driver BUT the driver is incharge of the bus.
Of course, that's assuming that your theory that it's school kids is correct, and even if it is - what right do you have to make EVERY school kid on your bus late for school, due to the actions of a minority?
@@DaveBartlett it is up upto the majority then to kick the shit out of the miscreant minority or find alternative group pressure, group punishment is common in the army, prisons and in many societies, it is the quickest and most calorie efficient way to keep societies civil and maintain order, the fact that he is "training" these little shits will ensure they don't grow up to be wastemen. Their parents should be eternally grateful to Darren for the life lessons he provides
@@DaveBartlett it’s normally all the school kids in on the act. They all do it together because they think it’s funny. So in answer to your question they all have every right to be late for school.
it may seem a minor thing but, if it constantly happening then it is so annoying, they ring the bell to, you think to get off of the bus, but then nobody does. You start to think that somebody is doing it on purpose. then the annoyance turns into anger.
I can feel her pain. Either she doesn't get paid enough to deal with this, or she's not getting paid for that shift. Plus, we can see it's night, she could be very tired and exhausted...
That's not a "typical shat driver", but a "typical shat passenger" sitting upstairs who tried to test the limit and reached it at the fourth time. Of course there are several ways to deal with such a situation being a bus driver. Calling the police quietly would have been an option if there are cameras inside the bus (I am from Switzerland and here every public bus has got half a dozen cameras to cover every single spot). A few stops later, the police would have waited for the bus and then it would have been not too hard to find the culprit, as it was apparently late evening and not too many people used the bus anymore. Since she's alone, being a female driver at night time, it wouldn't have been wise to engage the belltriggerer(s) all by herself and ask them to leave the bus. Sadly it's a double decker (we don't have any more double deckers in public short-distance transport, so this would never be an issue in Switzerland). If it was a standard or even an articulated bus, she could have easily made a short announcement through the microphone and said the bell is out of service, people have to approach and ask her personally to stop if they want to get off, until the terminus. By the way, instead of taking the offender's side and even considering to file a complaint against the bus driver / company which doesn't help at all: As a passenger, you had a good chance of deescalating the situation by helping the bus driver a little bit. You also want the bus to reach it's destination (and ideally on time) and stay in service, so if you had accompanied the bus driver the first time she went up when she said it's the third time it happened, and said "she's right man, sorry, but this is a kindergarten, I need to get to another bus in time" (even if you didn't), it could have made them understand that they are not hurting the bus driver, but their fellow passengers by taking their costly time.
CH = cloud cuckoo-land..? TfL subjecting their clientèle to SUCCESSIVE tantrums when sadly having to withdraw a faulty asset of theirs from transit, and -- *bossily even..!* -- you advance this corporately barbaric stealth of theirs manifesting itself just like this..? _ouf! arrêt, coliste :_ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PT2hkn3qqnE.html
Call the police because someone keeps ringing the bell? The police are busy enough dealing with real crime, without pandering to bus company's whims to have them enforce their company regulations as well. As annoying as someone repeatedly ringing the bell on a bus is, NO CRIMINAL OR CIVIL OFFENCE has been committed, so the police have no jurisdiction.
@@DaveBartlett In Switzerland it can be judged as "disturbing / disrupting the public transport's operations" which is at least 500 Swiss Franks fine to pay. For that amount of money, the public transport police (Bahnpolizei) will appear on site.
You can't see every passenger on the bus nor can you see clearly enough to see who is pressing the bell. That and you're watching a 1001 other things that are going on around your bus on the pavements and on the road.
They’re scumbags mate nothing better than dirty farm animals who use buses nowadays. I did the job 20 years and quit before I ended up doing one of em in. They’re all the same. Bin men pick up shit all day and get paid more so who in the right mind wants to drive it around all day and night for a pittance.
@@LJ07EBP I’m not being a troll or nothing but rather than having a go at the driver why doesn’t anyone go after the mug or mugs that kept messing with the bell? I’m just saying when general public misbehaves no one does anything but when employees stand up for themselves it’s “unprofessional”. As a society we are soft!
@@Gogeta307 Because it's not that deep, she didn't have to kick everyone off just for that. And she's shouting at all of us like she's a skl teacher with some type of authority she can go f herself
@@LJ07EBP The highest authority on a plane is the Pilot, The highest authority on a ship is the Captain, ergo the highest authority on a bus IS THE DRIVER. Just saying.
Clearly RU-vid should not allow low IQ peeps to create a channel. It is so annoying when people think to waste everybody's time, in a fucking public service. Clearly people without a right mind taking the pax side instead of the driver, including OP
I do feel for the driver am a bus driver myself and constantly have to put up with it every day its mainly schoolkids who are the worst culprits for ringing the bell dozens of times. I know her very well as she used to work at the same place as me and we get on very well However i personally think the bells should only be able to work once and not go off again until the driver has opened and closed the doors
I agree but I'd allow for three times before it needs reset. I've missed a stop before because the bell sound was the same noise as the handbrake released whilst door not closed warning and both went at rhe same time.
@@v31.48 In my city, you must open the *rear* door (except on Iveco Crossway, Irisbus Arway or Iveco Evadys buses). Most vehicles, like all of the Irizar i3 (Volvo B8R), Irizar i4 (Irisbus Iveco Eurorider), Sunsundegui Sb3 (Scania). This also applies to long distance coaches as well (like the Sunsundegui Sc5/Sc7, or the Irizar i6 (the ones fitted with a stop request).
I understand that she is stressed about someone continuously pressing the bell but she shouldn't have taken the bus out of service like that cause all the passengers who paid just wasted their money and were out in the cold and could have been far from their home. It could have been a faulty bell.
I’m a driver myself. This has happened to me and I just politely asked if someone was pressing the bell and everyone said no. So I just told my passengers to give me a shout if they needed a stop. Turns out it was a faulty stop button with a mind of its own as it went off when I was out of service with no one on and saloon lights off 😂. It is frustrating when people do press the bell thinking it’s a laugh but majority of the time it’s a fault with a button that’s a 2 minute swap and fit. They do get used hundreds of times a week sometimes a day!
bravo for keeping affairs down to earth around this here _Comments_ board -- people hereabouts are twisting their knickers into knots for paragraphs on end; it's so fuckingly queer that I've returned days later here to continue sussing out just how poorly they must be..! oof...
I had a bus that had a fault bell too, and it was pretty easy to blame a passenger, it’d pretty much spam between 2-4 times before each stop. It didn’t take long to realise there was only 3 of us on the bus and that it wasn’t someone having a bit of fun.. But noone talks about it.
the BI have a l w a y s been damp there -- not humid but damp -- plus their bus fleets are manufactured by the stingiest corporateers ever, their circuit boards must literally be rusting by now...
For anyone who disagrees with that driver, put yourself in her shoes, or the shoes of any driver who is recieving problems from any passengers, and think what you would do if you was in their position, what would you do if you was driving and someone kept pressing the bell but not getting off? What would you do if some passenger was refusing to get off? How would you deal with or handle a passenger being verbally abusive to you. Dont give the drivers rubbish advice or tell the drivers how to do their job unless you've stood in their shoes and been behind the wheel yourself.
Exactly unless you have done the job you have no right to make a video or comment on this video. I've been lucky in my years as a bus driver I don't often get abused doing my job as I'm a friendly person but it does happen and then you get entitled lill whatnots making vids like this. Whoever made this video should be ashamed of themselves
Sorry but I would not appreciate getting thrown off nowhere near where I wanted to go and being left there for something I hadn’t done, especially late at night. That’s how people get raped and murdered. I’ve been followed before just walking to my house from my usual stop.
@@leicestertravels4705 I can appreciate what you're saying, but at the end of the day, what choice does the driver have if people are just gonna press the bell for fun over and over?
‘What would you do’ I would simply ignore the bell and instruct every passenger getting on or aboard that they should come up and lmk when they want to get off. Guess it’s a different answer depending on the person but I don’t believe being like that would’ve helped anyone. That being said it would be considerably better if stop bells were changed to be a one press per stop, instead of allowing multiple presses which only paves way for some clown to do this. It’s seems a bit destructive and giving in to some weed whacker kid who knows they’ll cause disruption if they do that.. hence they probably do it only for this reaction - else why would you continue after being warned?
When i drove my method was to ask people nicely to stop ringing the bell. If it carries on ill say every time bell is pressed from now on, ill wait 2 mins at every stop. Works a treat, after a while the other passengers kick off on whoever is messing around as theyre being delayed. I have had it where the bell push itself is faulty, in which case just pull in whenever its pressed and carry on if nobody gets off. I have had school kids doing it constantly on the way home, easiest way to do it was figure out who it is then ignore the bell for their stop when they stand up to get off and take them to the next stop. "Sorry. Bell is faulty, been going off none stop for ages!"
this is the one for fare evaders aswell. "please boss just 2 stops" if the bell doesn't get rang until the very last moment, you know who it is. Drive straight on... when they come and say "you missed my stop"... "ah good sir, you missed the oyster reader"
Honestly I feel for her, when I used to go to a local primary school near me there was a bus operated by Stagecoach numbered 971 which unfortunately got scrapped in 2018 (I can’t remember why it got scrapped) and me and my mum and my little brothers always caught the 970 to get up to my sisters high school (she’s now 19 and I turned 15 last month on July 5th) and we would get off at the high school and wait for bus 971 to arrive because route 971 started at the high school and would drop us off at the primary school and once in 2016 when we were on bus 970 going home from school a bunch of kids who were sitting at the top deck were continuously pressing the bell to get off and the driver stopped the bus and had to tell the kids off. Thank goodness none of this happens on my school bus lol, I go to a special needs secondary school and most of the other kids are actually very well behaved. In September I will be going to school in a taxi though due to not many kids not being on the route in September.
This happened on my bus. The bell kept going off even though people aren't ringing the bell and the driver went insane and said whoever is pressing it get off the bus or I'll call the police.
If the bell is faulty the bus definitely needs to be taken back to the depot and checked! Inside the cab is not pleasant to hear the stupid bell going off multiple times. But of course all what people see here is that she’s wrong.
As a vehicle technician, I’ve come across defects where a push bell has gone faulty or a wire has shorted somewhere and causes the bell to go off by itself. So this vehicle could well be defective, however some drivers wouldn’t understand that.
But a faulty bell push/short would not go off immediately before a stop for several stops in a row, it would be much more random, triggered by a pothole in the road for example. But yes bell pushes can develop faults, knowing the difference comes with from experience.
She would have got a good talking too but probably not sacked , I’ve seen a documentary about the London buses, and how they are literally tracked minute by minute, if they detect they are stopped for longer than they should or even a minute behind schedule, they would immediately talk to the driver to find out what’s happening So next time that happens, stand your guard and stay on the bus, I’m surprised everyone took her side and got off, I would have said F U and stayed on as she knows she can’t stay stationary for longer than expected, cause any money she just wanted you all off, and she would have continued with the normal route as no way can they physically take it out of service
Not really, if the bus is late due to traffic or other events, they don't get a talking to by their controller, only time their controller talks to them is if they are very late and has to terminate somewhere, I've been driving buses in London for 15 years and have never been in trouble for being 1 minute late.
And next time you see a driver going through stress and thinking to add to that, put yourself in the drivers shoes, and imagine how you would feel if you was in that drivers position, what would you do if someone was constantly pressing the bell? What would you do if someone was refusing to get off your bus?
The driver is entitled to take the bus out of service, for all anybody knows that bus may have an electrical fault causing the bell to ring without anyone pressing the button. Also there are pricks out there that will do this just to wind up the driver for their own pathetic entertainment
She's probably had a bad shift or something, if people are annoying sure she should have just kicked specifically them off, not the whole bus. Ah well...
I was going to school and a kid pressed the bell where barely anyone gets off but no one gets off and I looked at the driver he looked behind I could tell he was confused but also frustrated
I can sympathise with her. I live in the northwest of England and some school kids get on the bus I travel on daily and push the bells for fun and the driver stops and nobody gets off. One time the driver got out his cab and shouted at a certain kid for doing it.
As a bus driver myself,if l stop because the bell has rung,and nobody gets off,l just drive past the next stop,even if the bell has rung ! It generally works, the public wonder why buses are running late,well this is just one reason!
Rules of public transport Is u only press the bell once to get off the bus if u are pressing it for the fun of annoying the driver they have the right to kick u off at that stop and even refuse to run the service
I’ve been in buses that have actually had a defect where the bell goes off every now and then. This driver didn’t need to kick everyone off. Why did everyone get off😂 I’d have stayed on
i understand its a long evening in east london and the driver’s probably fed up of the bell sounds in her cab, but you cannot terminate the service unless theres a serious reason. maybe she was annoyed but its not an excuse to kick everyone out the bus for a few sounds.
Typical 103 driver 😂😂 they rlly don’t give a shit seriously before I was waited for a 103 and they just stormed it down the Ed without picking it passengers up
Once on a Train in Adelaide (South Australia) the Train Driver refused to Allow Me to Disembark and transported Me to the Terminus 8 to 10 Stations beyond My Stop, because he didn’t want to deal with putting down a Ramp for My Electric Wheelchair. Fortunately the next Driver was far more understanding and although I was close to an Hour late getting Home, I did make it safely.
I’ve seen other videos about this, it’s often a fault with the button. They can’t take the bus out of service for what is very likely to be a fault. The driver should just ask people to go up to the front and ask the driver to stop, of they need to get off
Drivers shouldn’t be doing that, that’s so rude of her! I’m more glad 103 isn’t my local anymore due to mean drivers! Passengers have to press the bell to stop so the driver understands they need to get off!
Bruh i swear its always arriva that does all the bad things. Legit only a week ago an arriva literally ran a. Red light before deciding to skip a stop with around 20 passengers waiting. And the bus was bassically empty
My way to deal with them is very simple: just stop the bus, open, close, go (whenever someone presses the bell). No annoyance, no anger. Just like if someone got off.
@@TheArkamedBat each to their own. When i've got 24 mins of a night to do a trip, that gives 32 mins in a morning (5am) with only 5 mins stand time it isn't feasible in my circumstances
she can speak to her and address passengers if the bell keeps going wich forces her to stop at every stop when it goes however she cannot decide if she takes the bus off service in fact it is not dramtic enough to do that but she can throw you off and she can refuse to drive off until u get off if you continued to do it despite kind words of advice to stop
“Right this bus is being taken out of service. The bell has gone off three times. If the bell keeps going off, you will all be kicked off and you will have to walk. All right, DO WE UNDERSTAND? AM I CLEAR?!?! 😂” Oh my lord this lady is making me actually laugh out louder than YJ04 FYF 💀💀
I understand her annoyance. The problem is, everyone else is suffering for one moron. This is like what use to happen at school (and I'm going back a long way). One imbecile would act about and the teacher would punish everyone and keep them behind. That resulted in us missing our school buses but it didn't matter to the imbecile because he lived within walking distance. The answer is to kick the offender off. Not sure how that can be policed though.
On the ceiling panel there is a number plate board and complaints phone number. You have the right to request the drivers running codes and Driver ID. But the Romford bus group is a complex lot.
Im a bus driver.It’s very simple when people push the button continuously.Stop and wait for one whole minute at every stop. This especially works in the winter sun you open the rear doors and the cold air comes in the bus !Eventually the bus will be so late, the bus will get it’s running cut short and won’t be able to complete the journey. Or , secondly,you say there is a problem with the bells, and the bus has to be taken out of service as a major defect. It’s very simple. The driver wins every time. I don’t know why some drivers get stressed over this.
You should be lucky you have a bus service. I live in Grantham and the service here is so shockingly rubbish as half the routes don't have buses anymore or one every 3 hours.
As a driver myself it is annoying but you just learn to ignore it. I'll just stop at every stop. At the end of the day im getting paid either way so why does it matter?
Could’ve just talked through the PA through that microphone instead of getting out unless its broken or something lol Also, needs to understand also that this is one of the old buses so it could be normal that the bell could continously go off if there’s something broken within it or one of the buttons ig But never seen this before as well taking the bus out of service over a broken bell
@@DJShadesUK on the MDT controller (iBus controller), there is a button with a sound/volume logo, press that and it will sound the PA intro beep and then you can talk through it and make your announcement
@@DJShadesUK There are some buses fitted with them in the midlands but these tend to not be used and only fitted to buses able to do next stop announcements. Which for NXWM is the Platinum spec ADL Enviro400 MMC. There may be others but thats all I've been on in terms of buses with a PA system
Ask yourself why the driver is being messed around will bells keep getting pressed to just interrupt the service? If passengers cant travel sensibly then yes! Walk
She did warn everyone on the bus but some silly idiot didn't listen and spoiled the ride for everyone else so that's who you should be ranting your frustration with.
